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DunkMachine
Dec 21st, 2003, 07:23 PM
I hate to steal the CKB style but I think this deserves mentioning.

There's been a huge protest in france against the religious bans in schools. The protests were organized without the aid of official muslim organisations. The group of protesters was composed mostly of women who were chanting: "this is not the choice of our husbands, but our own".

I believe Y'all can't fuck with free choice.

Josh
Dec 21st, 2003, 07:29 PM
You call a few hundreds of people in Paris, Lille, Strasbourg and AVignon a huge protest? :confused:

DunkMachine
Dec 21st, 2003, 07:57 PM
You call a few hundreds of people in Paris, Lille, Strasbourg and AVignon a huge protest? :confused:

Considering it wasn't organized by any (known) official institution. Certainly you are not undermining the significance of their message because there were "just hundreds instead of thousands of demonstrators. I don't think the weight of the issue demands that alot of muslims should participate. Allthough the outrage among muslims is valid.

[edit: made my post a little more intelligible, sorry for any inconvenience]

-Ph51-
Dec 21st, 2003, 08:05 PM
Considering it wasn't organized by any (known) official institution. Certainly you are not undermining the significance of their message because there were "just hundreds instead of thousands of demonstrators. I don't think the weight of the issue demands that many people allthough the outrage is valid.
:confused:

Martian Willow
Dec 21st, 2003, 09:36 PM
...women are, have always been, the first to defend their own oppression...don't think there's anything admirable about that... :)

gentenaire
Dec 21st, 2003, 09:55 PM
Saddam won the elections in his country with 100% of the votes, remember? Some even coloured the dot with their own blood.

DunkMachine
Dec 22nd, 2003, 12:37 AM
Saddam won the elections in his country with 100% of the votes, remember? Some even coloured the dot with their own blood.

Yet again you dissapoint me. You cannot seriously compare both situations with a straight face.

You're kidding right?

Kart
Dec 22nd, 2003, 12:41 AM
An unfortunate problem for the women protesting against this ban is (allegedly) Muslim organisations have said that they have no objection to the ban.

That's not exactly helping these women with this protest of theirs (if it is true).

DunkMachine
Dec 22nd, 2003, 01:04 AM
In response to AnythisAndThat:

It is also gullible to believe the hype that a headscarf is a sign of obedience and oppression.

I on the other hand take opinions given by certain media, with a "pot" of salt. I'd rather just look at the facts and take my own conlusions. Especially now that certain groups are systematically targeted by governments and newsagencies.

Back to the point I was trying to make. I see a headscarf as a form of clothing etiquette and cultural identification. Some tribes have gigantic noserings to show people what tribe they are from. Women in other tribes have springs around their necks. It is a trend, a tradition.

The problem is that the headscarf is immediately associated with womens oppression because those women usually hail from countries where their rights and education are minimal. All a headscarf does is put more emphasis on their weak public standing, nothing more.

DunkMachine
Dec 22nd, 2003, 01:09 AM
An unfortunate problem for the women protesting against this ban is (allegedly) Muslim organisations have said that they have no objection to the ban.

That's not exactly helping these women with this protest of theirs (if it is true).

(Imitates error buzzer)
I believe the organisations said they were open for a dialogue about headscarf issue.

Besides Muslim Organisations aren't representatives of all muslims. They can only represent their members. The NAACP is an organisation supporting blacks but I don't agree with everything they say and do. I think it's similair for many muslims (considering the protests).