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pav
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:09 AM
I am watching some of the opening Spain v Aus. DavisCup match,and I must say it makes Me feel a bit sad that Kim spat the dummy on the Fed Cup ,in Her words to make a statement to the ITF, because it wasn't held where She thought it should be... so Kim thinks what will I do next? oh I know! I'll fly down under and play cheerleader for My lookalike boyfriend in the male equivalent of the Fed Cup.Am I the Lone Ranger in thinking this is a sad message for Womans tennis and are We heading back to the days when a Woman's place was in the kitchen?

CanadianBoy21
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:13 AM
I am watching some of the opening Spain v Aus. DavisCup match,and I must say it makes Me feel a bit sad that Kim spat the dummy on the Fed Cup ,in Her words to make a statement to the ITF, because it wasn't held where She thought it should be... so Kim thinks what will I do next? oh I know! I'll fly down under and play cheerleader for My lookalike boyfriend in the male equivalent of the Fed Cup.Am I the Lone Ranger in thinking this is a sad message for Womans tennis and are We heading back to the days when a Woman's place was in the kitchen?

:lol:
That was a good post.
I think why Kim did not want to play Fed Cup is that it does not mean much to her, if it did, she would be there no matter where it is played. But who can blame her, the top 200 see it the same way :p .
I think she was just too tired and wanted to be with her boyfriend in Australia(I am not even sure if it is in Australia), but anyway, he is struggling and she wants to support him.
Also, he does the same thing for her, so I see no problem with it.

Have fun Kim

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:17 AM
Yeah, but say it.....you know donīt try to come with a principle-stand and stuff. Just say I didnīt want to play, like Justine did....she didnīt want to play, but she didnīt want to be seen as the mean and country-downer Kim.

CanadianBoy21
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:59 AM
Yeah, but say it.....you know donīt try to come with a principle-stand and stuff. Just say I didnīt want to play, like Justine did....she didnīt want to play, but she didnīt want to be seen as the mean and country-downer Kim.
you are so harsh on kimmy.
I think she was considered meaner when she said what she meant. She could have said I am tired only and not played, but she got her message accross. I think she was both tired and wanted to be with her boyfriend. She does not care for Fed Cup, as I said, and as she showed, and that's fine, but she wants to make it something more special by having people in the stands and actually watch it, unlike in Russia, where the ones that do sow up, show up with a vodka and dooze off.

angele87
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:03 AM
Fed Cup and Davis Cup are totally different even though they should be similar in theory. The Davis Cup semis were held in September so that's a difference but the big difference is that one of the countries in the final always hosts the final. You wouldn't get a final in France if it's Australia vs. Spain. The Davis Cup format assures that there will always be a good crowd for the ties because there will always be a home team.

angele87
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:04 AM
And also even if Kim had played Fed Cup, she would be in Australia right now. No way she would miss the DC final unless she absolutely had to. Davis Cup is huge in Australia. Its popularity level can't even be compared to Fed Cup. Davis Cup means a lot to the Aussie team and by association, it means a lot to Kim as well!

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:05 AM
She didnīt say she didnīt want to play. She said it was a protest against ITF because they put the Fed in Russia. While Iīm sure that even if it was in Belgian, she wouldnīt have played.

Hawk
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:18 AM
She didnīt say she didnīt want to play. She said it was a protest against ITF because they put the Fed in Russia. While Iīm sure that even if it was in Belgian, she wouldnīt have played.

Yeah she did. She also said she was tired and didn't want to play if it was going to be in Russia.

She said she would have played if it was in Belgium.

Basically her 2 choices are go to Russia (even though you don't want to) extent your already long season by a week, then fly to Australia...or go straight to Aus, skip fed cup and have an extra week off..

Gee that's a tough decision :p

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:26 AM
So even it was in Belgium, she wouldnīt have played?! Then why they only killed Justine on Belgian teletext then?!

Hawk
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:28 AM
So even it was in Belgium, she wouldnīt have played?! Then why they only killed Justine on Belgian teletext then?!

:confused: She said she WOULD have played if it was in Belgium.

I don't know about Justine..I think should would have played as well if it was in Belgium..If I'm not mistaken she only said she wasn't going after it was announced that it would be in Russia.

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 05:04 AM
Thatīs what I understood as well, but other posters are saying conflicting reports to what I have.

*liana*
Nov 28th, 2003, 08:15 AM
They both said they would've have played if it was in Belgium. I think the fact that it was played in Russia was the deciding factor for both of them. (Personally can't say I blame them)

Come-on-kim
Nov 28th, 2003, 08:21 AM
Kim :woohoo:

Calvin
Nov 28th, 2003, 08:39 AM
you're weird bandabou: you're just talking to yourself :confused:

5 succeeding posts:

While Iīm sure that even if it was in Belgian, she wouldnīt have played.

She said she would have played if it was in Belgium.

So even it was in Belgium, she wouldnīt have played?!

She said she WOULD have played if it was in Belgium.


Thatīs what I understood as well, but other posters are saying conflicting reports to what I have.

:lol:

azza
Nov 28th, 2003, 09:02 AM
Its her boyfirend OF COARSE she would be with lleyton :rolleyes:

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 09:34 AM
How can I talk to myself, pinguin?!

Calvin
Nov 28th, 2003, 09:51 AM
READ hawks post before you reply.

you refer to 'conflicting reports from other posters', when the only conflicting report comes from yourself

you do realise those little voices in your head are not to be confused with 'other posters' do you?

jimbo mack
Nov 28th, 2003, 09:54 AM
who cares about the fed cup anyway???!! :rolleyes:

hey_britney
Nov 28th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Yeah, but say it.....you know donīt try to come with a principle-stand and stuff. Just say I didnīt want to play, like Justine did....she didnīt want to play, but she didnīt want to be seen as the mean and country-downer Kim.

Justine claimed fatigue.

jimbo mack
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:03 AM
actually, justine claimed a bad back ;)

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:06 AM
No penguin, I responded to Canadianboyīs earlier post and then Hawk came in and I responded to his posts.

hey_britney
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:12 AM
actually, justine claimed a bad back ;)

She said she was too tired from the long season to play Fed Cup.

jimbo mack
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:19 AM
she said in an interview it was a bad back......perhaps it was both??

hey_britney
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:24 AM
she said in an interview it was a bad back......perhaps it was both??

Possibly.

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:30 AM
face it she didnt play Fed Cup cos she had to be "Mrs Potato"

fifiricci
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:33 AM
face it she didnt play Fed Cup cos she had to be "Mrs Potato"

But Lleyton said in an interview last week that Mrs Potato could be some way down the track!! Kim's just on hols with her boyfriend. Whats all the fuss about?!

Lady
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:38 AM
unlike in Russia, where the ones that do sow up, show up with a vodka and dooze off.

Have you been there to judge :rolleyes: Are you sure everyone there was with vodka :rolleyes:
I'm Russian and I don't drink alcohol at all :(

If you think of Russian people by watching American movies, I feel really sorry for you

fleemkeģ
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:38 AM
I don't see the prob here :confused: nut one detail ;) Justine said she would have played if it was in Belgium. Just the same as Kim said :)

Lady
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:43 AM
I don't see the prob here :confused: nut one detail ;) Justine said she would have played if it was in Belgium. Just the same as Kim said :)

Are you sure? As I remember pretty well Justine said she wouldn't have played even if it was in Belgium!!

fleemkeģ
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:43 AM
yes I read it :confused:

Lady
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:49 AM
Don't know then. Justine said during US Open that she won't play, even if it was in Belgium.
But she was so tired by the end of the season, so it was obvious to me ;)
But let's forget it, it doesn't matter anymore ;)

maryjane
Nov 28th, 2003, 10:56 AM
what a stupid discussion!!!We know how much Kim cares about her nation.And many people inside tennis said she did the right thing,Nvratilova too.
The fact is that Kim has the guts to say and do things.
Anyway here is she...a bit upset by Philippoussis...

http://delivery.****************/comp/2766335.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE2E052CCF7679DE5D0A4D686E8181 C8AB

angele87
Nov 28th, 2003, 11:34 AM
READ hawks post before you reply.

you refer to 'conflicting reports from other posters', when the only conflicting report comes from yourself

you do realise those little voices in your head are not to be confused with 'other posters' do you?
:lol:

Great post!

bee
Nov 28th, 2003, 11:37 AM
What's wrong with the Fed Cup being held in Russia? Amelie and Mary both didn't mind the trip even the American players didn't say anything.

gentenaire
Nov 28th, 2003, 11:54 AM
Thatīs what I understood as well, but other posters are saying conflicting reports to what I have.


Other posters haven't been giving conflicting reports, they've been giving their personal opinion.

Kim herself has said she would have played had it been in Belgium. What posters here on WTAworld think about it doesn't change Kim's words.


Bee, it's not about the trip, it's about the lack of atmosphere. Watch a Davis Cup match and you'll know what I'm talking about. Fed Cup is only fun if there are thousands of people cheering you on. Without the crowd, Fed Cup is nothing. Last time Kim played Fed Cup in Russia, there were hardly any people watching.

Experimentee
Nov 28th, 2003, 01:12 PM
Kim should have played no matter where it was. If she did Belgium would have had a chance to win the Cup, instead of being thrashed by the American C team :rolleyes:
If she really cared about her country and was not injured she should have played no matter what the format.

tfannis
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:14 PM
Why should Kim go all the way to russia to play the self-destrucing Fed Cup :confused: She has played so much this year...and she cares enough for her country lol...she would have played if it was in Belgium, even though she was tired, that's caring enough....

starr
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Fed Cup is a joke. It's never been the same as Davis Cup and now they are just ruining it completely.

Hawk
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:57 PM
No penguin, I responded to Canadianboyīs earlier post and then Hawk came in and I responded to his posts.

hey hey hey..her posts :p

I'm a girl ;)

Kart
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Kim's just another in a long line of top players that have ignored Fed Cup when it suited them. I don't really see any reason for her to get singled out.

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:54 PM
hey hey hey..her posts :p

I'm a girl ;)

ooppss! My bad, girlie! :D

Ryan
Nov 28th, 2003, 05:30 PM
Oh please Experimentee, don't dare talk about Kim not caring for her country when you're fans of the two biggest no-shows in tennis.

SJW
Nov 28th, 2003, 05:59 PM
Oh please Experimentee, don't dare talk about Kim not caring for her country when you're fans of the two biggest no-shows in tennis.

that is a post beyond your (mental) years

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i thought Justine said that she was suffering from a back infection during the USO...so would she have played in Belgium or not?

if they don't wanna play FC so WHAT? they don't have to. personally i would be honoured to play for my country, but it's not the same for everyone.

credit for Kim to come out and say up front she didn't want to play

pav
Nov 28th, 2003, 08:59 PM
after reading the replies to this thread I think You are right with the two main points that have come out, that the Fed Cup has nowhere near the attraction of the Davis Cup, and that Kim is right to stick to Her principles,and Ithink it was the first fact and the site of one of the Worlds best and most popular WTA players jumping up and down like a clapping yo-yo at at the Davis cup set Me off! it is good to see Her cheering on the toilet paper Man as He has done for Her. There is no doubt the Fed cup needs some sort of kick up the butt.
I'm also sad that My favourite,Vera Z. tried Her best and probably missed out on a bear-hug from Boris Yeltsin!

canoe.
Nov 28th, 2003, 09:09 PM
:shrug: Maybe she was horny?

saki
Nov 28th, 2003, 11:19 PM
To clarify on Justine, I don't think she'd have played in Belgium either because a large factor in her decision was the shitty treatment she's been getting from "the Flemish camp" in Belgium. The doping allegations were inexcusable as was Kim's "she always takes timeouts against me" lie. Justine says that she's not been offered personal apologies from anyone concerned but only the media has had placatory statements from them. Why should she want to play on a team with people who treat her like this? It's up to the Belgian tennis federation to woo her back because it's their loss, not hers.

Hawk
Nov 28th, 2003, 11:28 PM
To clarify on Justine, I don't think she'd have played in Belgium either because a large factor in her decision was the shitty treatment she's been getting from "the Flemish camp" in Belgium. The doping allegations were inexcusable as was Kim's "she always takes timeouts against me" lie. Justine says that she's not been offered personal apologies from anyone concerned but only the media has had placatory statements from them. Why should she want to play on a team with people who treat her like this? It's up to the Belgian tennis federation to woo her back because it's their loss, not hers.

I understand about the Federation bit..but her feeling regarding Kim are of no importance. They never play together! Justine would play her singles and Kim would play her singles..and probably Callens/Maes would play the doubles.

Lady
Nov 28th, 2003, 11:36 PM
Well, Justine & Kim seems had no problems talking to each other (as they did in LA, even practising). So it's more about other people.