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rada
Nov 26th, 2003, 03:46 AM
i still see monica more serb..she lived in novi sad which is a great place so nice there and i think she still does,when she was asked about yugoslavia(serbia) she said she is going to go back there for sure that it would always be home:)

firefly_ac
Nov 26th, 2003, 03:49 AM
Jelena and monica!

serbia11
Nov 26th, 2003, 03:52 AM
yeah i know how good would that have been jelena and monica....
every1 still loves her in serbia:)

PointBlank
Nov 26th, 2003, 07:08 AM
Monica and Both Jelena;s in FedCup :eek: watch out!

~Isidora~
Nov 26th, 2003, 12:48 PM
This is a interview she gave to Blic- Serbian newspapers-yesterday. Novi Sad is my home. I needed American passport to travel easier around the world, as yugoslavia had sanctions. I love Yugoslavia, i have all my friens there, i've been going incognito there almost every year.
Asked if she still speaks serbian: Of course, how do you think i speak with Dokic and Jankovic.
Greatest champion Yugoslavia ever had. Thank you Monica.

rada
Nov 26th, 2003, 01:13 PM
This is a interview she gave to Blic- Serbian newspapers-yesterday. Novi Sad is my home. I needed American passport to travel easier around the world, as yugoslavia had sanctions. I love Yugoslavia, i have all my friens there, i've been going incognito there almost every year.
Asked if she still speaks serbian: Of course, how do you think i speak with Dokic and Jankovic.
Greatest champion Yugoslavia ever had. Thank you Monica.

monica is just the best....

DA FOREHAND
Nov 26th, 2003, 01:43 PM
yes she is just ask Goran

tennisjam
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:07 PM
No, especially as Yougoslavia doesn't exist since early ninties... :o

rada
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:24 PM
No, especially as Yougoslavia doesn't exist since early ninties... :o

u dont know much about yugoslavia it changed its name this year to serbia & montenegro and monica still loves it!!!!!!!!!

Caz
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:45 PM
Given that I'm English and thus not Serbian or American it doesn't really bother me which under nationality Monica plays, but I just wanted to add to the general conversation that I always still think of Monica as being Serbian and European, even though I know she has American citizenship and plays for America.... in the same way, I associate Martina Navratilova with the Czech Republic, even though I am aware she is American and loves being American, when I think of her my mind automatically thinks of the Czech Republic.

rada
Nov 27th, 2003, 01:06 AM
yep i think so to......

oggie
Nov 27th, 2003, 03:40 AM
No I don't agree. Had Monica really liked Serbia she would not have requested in early 90's that she does not represent that country (ex. that they don't play their anthem, show their flag, announce Monica as a Yugoslavian player, etc.) even before she got American citizenship. I am sure that Monica still has many good friends there - her childhood was there, but I don't think that she likes Serbia as a country. Beside, didn't Serbians prosecute Hungarians living in Vojvodina at one time and Monica's nationality is Hungarian?

rada
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:03 AM
ur so so wrong......u should read what monica says 1st

PointBlank
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:33 AM
Jelena Dokic speaks English Monica ;)

Great Article!

Does Monica speak Hungarian also?

faboozadoo15
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:58 AM
well im positive monica speaks hungarian... unless she lied in a full length interview with tennis magazine. she said thats what she speaks with her mom and brother.

i dont really have an answer for this thread. im really uninformed. but being in the us, im glad she plays for us. thats all i say. i liked her before she was american though. so i doubt much would be different.

i also find it funny monica didnt know jelena speaks english... or thats not a real quote.

hingis-seles
Nov 27th, 2003, 06:13 AM
The reason Monica requested not to be represented under the Yugoslav flag in tournaments in the early 90s was because of the Balkan War that had broken out. She feared being a target. She always felt someone was after her. Sadly she was right.

rada
Nov 27th, 2003, 06:31 AM
The reason Monica requested not to be represented under the Yugoslav flag in tournaments in the early 90s was because of the Balkan War that had broken out. She feared being a target. She always felt someone was after her. Sadly she was right.

thats right it was because of the war..........and jelena dokic speaks more serbian..........

PointBlank
Nov 27th, 2003, 06:47 AM
If Jelena spoke Serbian mostly how did she get around in Aus?

PointBlank
Nov 27th, 2003, 06:50 AM
Are Jelena's parents origanily Serbian? Because if so they make up the majority of Serbia and Montenegro , most are Brown/Brown

rada
Nov 27th, 2003, 08:49 AM
yes there serbian and i didnt say jelena cant speak english we all know she can

Scorch
Nov 27th, 2003, 11:45 AM
I have to question the accuracy of the quotes from Blic. They do seem to contradict a lot of what Monica has said over the years. I will post quotes from other interviews if I can find the time.

She has always said that she changed citizenship because she had lived in the USA more that half her life and in many ways felt more american. She also mentions in her autobiography that her family had experienced persecution (in relation to coming from Hungary) in the former yugoslavia.

I find it strange that she is now supposed to be saying she became a US citizen because it makes it easier to travel???? In her book she says that the day her mother and her became US citizens was one of the best of her life??

dokic
Nov 27th, 2003, 12:10 PM
Monica Did Say Many Times That She Loved Serbia But She Also Loves The Us Which Is Good...:)

serbia11
Nov 27th, 2003, 12:23 PM
Monica Loves The Place She Has Been Here So Many Times..
But She Love's The Usa To Like Dokic Said,it's All Good.:)

azza
Nov 27th, 2003, 12:35 PM
yes to many ppl in america :(

either that or Australia :p

rada
Nov 27th, 2003, 02:17 PM
lol true

Joana
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:07 PM
She also mentions in her autobiography that her family had experienced persecution (in relation to coming from Hungary) in the former yugoslavia.


Sorry, but I just don't believe this. It simply cannot be true.

©@®eLess
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:10 PM
No I don't agree. Had Monica really liked Serbia she would not have requested in early 90's that she does not represent that country (ex. that they don't play their anthem, show their flag, announce Monica as a Yugoslavian player, etc.) even before she got American citizenship. I am sure that Monica still has many good friends there - her childhood was there, but I don't think that she likes Serbia as a country. Beside, didn't Serbians prosecute Hungarians living in Vojvodina at one time and Monica's nationality is Hungarian?
Dokic came to Australia because of the war. She came back after Milosevis was rulled out. She speaks serbian as her NATIVE language, but she also speaks english, as she lived in Australia for 6 years.

Monica Seles speaks Serbian. She changed her nationality because of sanctions. Remember She did it AFTER Munich 1993. By then SFR Yugoslavia didn't exsist. New Yugoslavia, Federal Republic ( Serbia and Montenegro) exsisted from april 27 1992. So for one year Monica played for Serbia, she didn't change her nationality to i don't know croatian or hungarian, she felt like a serb.
If she didn't why did she play under or flag for 1 year.
Then in may 1993 she was attacked, sanctions have been put to Yugoslavia( Which included sport as well) So she coudn't play for us. Logicaly she had house on Florida and she took US citizenship. She sad that herself!!!!!!
NO SERBS DID NOT PROSECUTE HUNGARIANS

Because of bad ploitics in our country, AS WELL as international no FR Yug(serbia-mont) team or athlete could compete in any competitions.

Due to that, only to that she had to change it, so she could continue competing. You took our best players, but we came back and our teams rule the world. Tell me did she ever had results like she used to have when she played for Yugoslavia.
West is using misery of eastern countries to take all the good. You took Navratilova, Seles, Dokic
Mikaleian was Armenian, and many others... So please your ignorance about our contry and our sportsman doesn't give you right to insult any of us.

Joana
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:16 PM
She didn't request not to play under Yugoslav flag. Up to Hamburg '93 she was always listed as YUG.
And I repeat: SHE WASN'T MISTREATED BECAUSE OF HER NATIONALITY!!!!!!

Cutura
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:28 PM
Duleml- You are tottaly right :)

©@®eLess
Nov 27th, 2003, 10:12 PM
By the way, why should Monica and Jelena speak in english, when they are both born in Serbia? Of course they speak serbian. Speaking in English is just meanningless, just as they would be speaking mandarian chineese, if they knew it!!! Monika lived in Serbia for 20 years. i don't think she can ever forget to speak serbian!!!

oggie
Nov 28th, 2003, 12:19 AM
Hmmm....
Somehow I have a hard time accepting what you are saying Duleml (about Hungarians not being prosecuted), since you are from Serbia and since Monica did mention prosecution of Hungarians in Serbia in her autobiography.
BTW, Yugoslavia had sanctions on sport since 1992, and that obviously did not prevent Monica from playing, and not 1993 as you claim. This means that that Monica did not change citizenship just so that she could play, but for otehr reasons.
Thirdly, even if everything that you say is true, it still doesn't explain why Monica specifically requested that Yugoslavian anthem not be payed, their flag not shown, and that she is anounced as belonging to sarasota, Florida, and you can't tell me that this is not true because I heard it (it was mentioned during 1992 FO Finals, and I am sure that lots of people on this board know of it). Clearly, she did not want to be a part of this new country from day one.

rada
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:27 AM
Hmmm....
Somehow I have a hard time accepting what you are saying Duleml (about Hungarians not being prosecuted), since you are from Serbia and since Monica did mention prosecution of Hungarians in Serbia in her autobiography.
BTW, Yugoslavia had sanctions on sport since 1992, and that obviously did not prevent Monica from playing, and not 1993 as you claim. This means that that Monica did not change citizenship just so that she could play, but for otehr reasons.
Thirdly, even if everything that you say is true, it still doesn't explain why Monica specifically requested that Yugoslavian anthem not be payed, their flag not shown, and that she is anounced as belonging to sarasota, Florida, and you can't tell me that this is not true because I heard it (it was mentioned during 1992 FO Finals, and I am sure that lots of people on this board know of it). Clearly, she did not want to be a part of this new country from day one.

she didn't want the song played or flag up, because of the war.. :cuckoo:
and duleml is right about what he said.....(duleml & joana rule)
yugoslavia(serbia i mont) has lost so much and u people still try putting us serbs down but thats not going to happen...
serbia is becoming 1 of the world's best sporting countries..
number 1 in basketball
number 1 in volleyball
number 1 in waterpolo
and were good at tennis,soccer,the list goes on...monica u rule and serbs love ya!

©@®eLess
Nov 28th, 2003, 01:58 PM
OGGIE- you honestly have no idea what you're talking about. No prosecution ever been in Vojvodina. I know it cause i was born there, in a city which still has great deal of croats, and they never complained about anything, they and serbs live like they always had. I'm 21 and when the war started i was 9-10, so i know what really happened. Neither Milosevic story is true but neither the western one. All three nations (Serbs, Croats and Muslims) were in the war, and there is equal responsability for people that died, for all three entites. I hate Milosevic for destroying so many lives. But no war or prosecutions happened in serbia till bombing 1999, and still then vojvodina which is nord serbia with 75 % of Serbs, had no prosecutions. Please what you're telling is not true, and you are hurting good people, taht have already suffered a lot, because of everyone bad politics. This is no place for that but for sport. Still if you say something that's not true., we have to clear it out.

ktwtennis
Nov 28th, 2003, 01:58 PM
I hate to say this to Monica fans, but I think you guys are going a little far with this Yugoslovia thing...Even as an American, I don't act this patriotic (and Americans are known as "overly patriotic"). Monica proudly plays for America now, not Yugoslovia. I think that she still loves her family and friends that live in Yugoslovia, but America is where her heart is now...After all, she's been living here for the majority of her life...

oggie
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:55 PM
Sorry Duleml if I said anything hurtful - if I did, I didn't mean it and I don't know for a fact that prosecution did happen (I just know that it was mentioned in her autobiography). I still stand behind the rest of my argument, and it is just my opinion that Monica, for reasons other than sanctions, did not want to represent the new Yugoslavia, but let's not quarel about this.

rada
Nov 29th, 2003, 03:29 AM
ok every1 the topic was WOULD U STILL LIKE MONICA TO PLAY FOR YUGOSLAVIA (SERBIA) thats all i asked for.....
and monica does love the us BUT when they were bombing serbia she wasn't happy and did say that on tv ,so if she didn't like serbia she wouldnt care.(which she does) ill ask her at the oz open ok

dokic
Nov 29th, 2003, 04:38 AM
yes it would have been nice if monica was still there...:)
monica does speak to jelena in serbian, jelena was asked this befor and she said that they speak serbian....which i think is cool......the last time when monica was asked about serbia she said in here own words YES ITS STILL HOME AS THE US IS..AND IM GOING TO GO BACK THERE REALY SOON...She also said jelena wants to play a match in serbia and monica said she will...