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Mister B
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:42 PM
I'd like to know the proportion of the Seles fans and Graf fans on WTAworld... It might be interesting!

Mase
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:43 PM
Seles :drool:

lilly
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:43 PM
Graf

Bероника
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:15 PM
MOnica,of course.

ktwtennis
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:16 PM
W/o a doubt, Seles!

Infiniti2001
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:20 PM
Where is the option for both?? I like them both for different reasons of course :p

Doraemon
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:23 PM
I like them both equally for different reasons.
I have always admired Steffi's hidden passion for the game and spirit which I doubt anyone else has.
I love Moncia for her dedication to the game and attitude and demeanor on and off the court.
I used to root for Steffi when Monica was really having the edge in ther meetings but after she got stabbed and came back to the tour, I just didn't take a side anymore and just tried enjoying their match ups as much as I could and I enjoyed it more than I used to.

irma
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:31 PM
I dislike them both especially that annoying steffi person

where is that option?

;)

saki
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:39 PM
Oh, most definitely, Steffi Graf!

SJW
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:45 PM
Steffi, no doubt

Roxers
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:02 PM
i like both very much, but Steffi more :)

Glenn
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:04 PM
I like both, but Steffi a bit more.

pan
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:05 PM
MONICA is nice!
STEFFI is great!

AjdeNate!
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:12 PM
Monica of course, but I love Steffi as well.

spencercarlos
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:17 PM
I like them both, both are great champions, tough to pick, but i think Steffi was a more complete player, showed it before and after Seles`s sad incident.

mandy7
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:29 PM
STEFFI!

TheBoiledEgg
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:46 PM
Steffi :worship:

Spirit
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:52 PM
Actually, adding "Both" would be perfectly valid. From what we've seen so far in this thread, people who like both might outnumber those of us who clearly like one more than the other. That, I think, would be interesting to see.

-Sonic-
Nov 24th, 2003, 06:55 PM
I'm going for Seles but as most people, I like both :)

Kart
Nov 24th, 2003, 07:08 PM
Both :inlove:.

I hate one of them as well though :explode:.

bandabou
Nov 24th, 2003, 07:12 PM
I like both...Both were/ are great champions and played some amazing matches.

St.Sebastian
Nov 24th, 2003, 07:21 PM
They are both great but my feelings say :Monica :)
I still hope she'll make some kind of a big comeback winning a major.

MisterQ
Nov 24th, 2003, 08:18 PM
Monica has always fascinated me more, in both tennis and personality, and she's probably my favorite WTA player of all.

However, Steffi is a tremendous player, and now that she has married my favorite ATP player I have to like her too!

joaco
Nov 24th, 2003, 08:44 PM
Steffi :hearts:

WhatTheDeuce
Nov 24th, 2003, 09:14 PM
Monica by far

Loyal Selesian
Nov 24th, 2003, 09:48 PM
MONICA all the way

Havok
Nov 24th, 2003, 10:25 PM
Monica, but still like Steffi

Kiswana
Nov 24th, 2003, 10:32 PM
I like them but what broke the tie was Graf's athleticism. Whenever I watched Steffi play, I always thought I was watching a real tennis player, a person who was genuinlely meant for the sport.

Dennis
Nov 24th, 2003, 11:12 PM
Monica forever !

Diya
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:33 AM
Monica :hearts: :worship:

R&J
Nov 25th, 2003, 02:25 AM
Monica

Andrew.
Nov 25th, 2003, 02:31 AM
What's so sad is that Monica would have topped Steffi's career if not for the stabbing. It's really sad. LOVE U MONICA!!!!

kfh_9118
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:02 AM
Steffi Graf

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:06 AM
Seles.

Scotso
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:32 AM
What's so sad is that Monica would have topped Steffi's career if not for the stabbing. It's really sad. LOVE U MONICA!!!!

That's a rather subjective opinion.


Steffi.

Martian Willow
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:35 AM
...I admired Steffi but I like Monica... :)

Diya
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:37 AM
Its almost neck and neck 54-52 in Steffi's favour .....kinda reminds me like one of their classic matches :o :

Miranda
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:45 AM
always Monica :hearts:

Diya
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:47 AM
54- 53 in Steffi's favour ;) ...........Go Monica ! :bounce:

Diya
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:58 AM
Again Monica comes from the behind to level it all up at 54 each !! Take the lead now Monica :worship:

Mister B
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:03 AM
Whoa! During the afternoon Steffi had about 20 in advance! That shows that the members are pretty 50-50 Steffi-Monica fans!

MisterQ
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:14 AM
This reminds me of the 2000 Presidential Election!

mypapa_je
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:30 AM
55 for sales....

lovecwq
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:51 AM
I love Monica so much while hate that German bitch so much!!!

Vincent
Nov 25th, 2003, 05:24 AM
Monica....:)

Grice
Nov 25th, 2003, 06:31 AM
MOnicA.. the darling of tennis :hearts:

moby
Nov 25th, 2003, 06:49 AM
i'm not voting cause there's no both

i definitely like monica's personality more
but graf's game fascinates me

jdog3008
Nov 25th, 2003, 06:50 AM
How did Monica get ahead?

Veritas
Nov 25th, 2003, 07:33 AM
Monica will always be no.1 on my tennis-faves list :hug:

I like Steffi, but no matter good or likeable she is, Graf, IMO, just isn't anywhere near as lovable as Monica :hug: ( :p at the mushy-ness of my words :o ).

Robert1
Nov 25th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Monica of course. I want graciousness and sportsmanship. I don't want a Rotznase from Bruehl.

wave
Nov 25th, 2003, 12:05 PM
As always these polls are misleading.

Some vote for who is the better player, some vote for who they like more, some vote for the country the players come from...

At least nobody can say that from me... :p

Go Monica!


But Steffi is for sure no "Rotznase". To me she is one of the most impressive sports persons. Therefore I respect her a lot, but I don't like her nearly as much as Monica.

rada
Nov 25th, 2003, 12:09 PM
monic rules keep going:)

rada
Nov 25th, 2003, 12:12 PM
monica never gives up true hero

Kart
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:07 PM
Monica has taken the lead, I'm impressed, when I looked last she was about 15 votes behind.

Monica :hearts: :worship:

GoDominique
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:15 PM
Go Steffi!

GoDominique
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:23 PM
Vote for Steffi!

vs1
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:23 PM
MONICA!!!! :worship: :hearts:

irma
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:28 PM
don't vote for steffi

I don't wanna be a bandwagoner;)

Experimentee
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:29 PM
I prefer Monica but I like Steffi too.

Experimentee
Nov 25th, 2003, 01:32 PM
Its so strange that 130 people have voted already in one day. I wouldnt be surprised if some die hard fans were boting multiple times, considering the way some Steffi and Monica fans are obsessed with their fave :rolleyes:

galadriel
Nov 25th, 2003, 02:57 PM
Monica Seles :D

rfs1999
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:13 PM
Go Monica!

GoDominique
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:14 PM
Go Steffi!

Robert1
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:19 PM
What's so sad is that Monica would have topped Steffi's career if not for the stabbing. It's really sad. LOVE U MONICA!!!!

That's a rather subjective opinion.

No, it's not, it's objective. Because Monica won more in her prime - much more than Graf did, Dr. Skotzso.

Robert1
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Monica is leading, she has more fans. Poll finished.

saki
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Does this mean that there are more European Steffi fans/more American Monica fans than vice versa? Because Monica surged ahead overnight in European time.

Chance
Nov 25th, 2003, 03:47 PM
Monica!!!

hingis-seles
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Monica ofcourse. :worship:

Sammm
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:23 PM
Monica!!!!!!!!

MisterQ
Nov 25th, 2003, 04:31 PM
Does this mean that there are more European Steffi fans/more American Monica fans than vice versa? Because Monica surged ahead overnight in European time.

yeah, that occured to me too! could be the explanation! :)

Come-on-kim
Nov 25th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Monica :hearts:

razzponic
Nov 25th, 2003, 06:17 PM
M O N I C A S E L E S ! ! ! :worship:

Joana
Nov 25th, 2003, 08:37 PM
I didn't want to admit it to myself for a logn time but... Steffi.
I hated her so much when I was a kid for being Monica's greatest rival but a few years ago I realized that I like Steffi's game and personality more. Probably the only reason I loved Monica so much was that she's from my country. I still like her very much, but it's not the same.

TartarVicario
Nov 25th, 2003, 08:49 PM
Steffi :)

darren cahill
Nov 25th, 2003, 09:58 PM
Steffi :worship:

PatM04
Nov 25th, 2003, 10:08 PM
Seles:)But I have nothing against Steffi.

ßcoene
Nov 25th, 2003, 10:24 PM
Monica :worship:

diggerariel
Nov 25th, 2003, 10:50 PM
Steffi is wonderful in so many ways! I wish she was still in her prime & playing. It's great to see her as a mother as well. :D

R&J
Nov 25th, 2003, 10:50 PM
Definately Monica!:rocker:

tennischick
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:32 AM
Stefanie...by any measure....:worship:

hingis-seles
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:46 AM
Let's Go Monica Let's Go!

*clap* *clap* *clap*

ttaM
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:51 AM
Monica

Robert1
Nov 26th, 2003, 07:59 PM
Monica was 2nd at the Sanex Hero Award even though they kicked her out for a few weeks. That answers all questions. She is THE fan favorite, not anybody else. This poll is not necessary.

GoDominique
Nov 26th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Monica was 2nd at the Sanex Hero Award even though they kicked her out for a few weeks. That answers all questions. She is THE fan favorite, not anybody else. This poll is not necessary.
:cuckoo: :haha:

Robert1
Nov 26th, 2003, 09:20 PM
And dominique is the butthead of this poll :lol:

AlwaysGraf
Nov 26th, 2003, 10:04 PM
My user name says it all! AlwaysGraf


STEFFI- YOU ARE THE GREATEST TENNIS PLAYER OF ALL TIME!


Oh, and Seles, I do respect and admire her talent, but, it annoys me when people, especially Seles fans undermine Steffi's achievements during Seles' absence.
At the end of the day, Seles did not dominate Steffi. Their matches were always close, and Steffi did have a winning head to head against Seles. Steffi, fair enough was pipped in the two finals that most remember. But I don't care, Steffi was a better player.
And this whole thing about Steffi not showing at the 30yr celebration. So what! She wasn't obliged to do so. So Nav and BJ King can go and kiss my ass! Steffi or any other player owes nothing to BJK. I'm sure Steffi would have been successful in another field. I don't think she should bow down and thank BJK for all the hard work she's done to get where she is,
Steffi is just the perfect athlete, graceful, athletic,extremely talented. Nobody campares, Nobody ever has and Nobody Nobody Nobody ever will again!

Can you tell I'm a Steffi Graf fan!

fried_beans
Nov 26th, 2003, 10:32 PM
Wow
86-86 ...its tight

Ballbuster
Nov 27th, 2003, 12:45 AM
Oh Wow!

I just broke the Tie. Go Graffy, I really don't like her either but you monica fans get on my last nerve.

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:35 AM
"monica fans get on my last nerve"

That's because you continuously bash Monica in the most rude terms . Guess what gets on your last nerve is the amount of negative rep. points you have been receiving.

faboozadoo15
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:48 AM
not to sound cocky, but i am surprised HOW damn close this is...

hingis-seles
Nov 27th, 2003, 06:00 AM
not to sound cocky, but i am surprised HOW damn close this is...

Could not agree more!

88-87 for Monica.

Robert1
Nov 27th, 2003, 11:42 AM
Always Graf: Monica was the better player, she won MUCH MUCH MUCH more than Graft from 90 until the stabbing and in that period she had a positiv h2h vs. Graf, especially at Grand Slams (3:1!). She dominated and would have been dominating even more because her development as a player was on it's go. Graf profited from the stabbing and from the fact that the no.1 player who had been dominating for 3 years was taken out. Period!

Graf is a much overestimated player who won a GS in 1988 when the competition was just awful and who won another bunch of GSs in a period when the no.1 player was taken out. And about her graciousness you could ride a book about her childish behaviour after losses (denying handshakes and so forth). Can you tell I'm not a Graffan?

tinkerbell
Nov 27th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Steffi everytime she even married my favourite ATP player could she be any more perfect:)

irma
Nov 27th, 2003, 02:34 PM
Always Graf: Monica was the better player, she won MUCH MUCH MUCH more than Graft from 90 until the stabbing and in that period she had a positiv h2h vs. Graf, especially at Grand Slams (3:1!). She dominated and would have been dominating even more because her development as a player was on it's go. Graf profited from the stabbing and from the fact that the no.1 player who had been dominating for 3 years was taken out. Period!

Graf is a much overestimated player who won a GS in 1988 when the competition was just awful and who won another bunch of GSs in a period when the no.1 player was taken out. And about her graciousness you could ride a book about her childish behaviour after losses (denying handshakes and so forth). Can you tell I'm not a Graffan?

for a player who sucks so much you are rather obsessed with her.

should you not let her go? :lol:

bandabou
Nov 27th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Irma, didnīt know all those "bad" things about your fav! ;)

Look peeps, no need to drag neither player down. First Graf already had 11 slams before Monica got stabbed, so she was already a great. Of course,22 slams would have become difficult with Monica around...but Grafīs name was already made in the history books.

irma
Nov 27th, 2003, 03:16 PM
Irma, didnīt know all those "bad" things about your fav! ;)

Look peeps, no need to drag neither player down. First Graf already had 11 slams before Monica got stabbed, so she was already a great. Of course,22 slams would have become difficult with Monica around...but Grafīs name was already made in the history books.

indeed steffi was a hall of famer and won the slam at 19 and 3 months that's amazing and monica and all her incredible succes at an even younger age don't make that smaller or bigger.

Ballbuster
Nov 27th, 2003, 03:35 PM
"monica fans get on my last nerve"

That's because you continuously bash Monica in the most rude terms . Guess what gets on your last nerve is the amount of negative rep. points you have been receiving.

Good! Make sure you keep them coming. Looking at your signature, you are a terminal victim, enjoy your darkness.


Go SteffI!!!!!

bandabou
Nov 27th, 2003, 03:36 PM
Exactly, Irma.....Monica was on her way to greatness or was already a great for her impressive three year run, but that doesnīt make Steffi chopped liver either. I mean 13!! straigth slam-finals!! That means Steffi was in the running for a GRAND SLAM three straigth years!:eek: Impressive!!

venusgold
Nov 27th, 2003, 03:41 PM
Go Steffi!

sartrista7
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:14 PM
95-92 for Steffi :D

bandabou
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:15 PM
So close.....that I donīt understand all the fighting about Seles vs Graf. Seems to both are loved almost equally. Nice!

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:19 PM
Good! Make sure you keep them coming. Looking at your signature, you are a terminal victim, enjoy your darkness.


Go SteffI!!!!!

It is SO you and it really shows your true nature to play with terminal illnesses just to make rude comments :rolleyes: .

irma
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:21 PM
Let's all love each other :hearts:

Kart
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:23 PM
How did that Steffi get into the lead ? :eek:

I'd better cast my vote for Monica because I love her more :inlove:



VivalaSeles :kiss: :hearts: :worship: :lick: :wavey:

Kart
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:25 PM
93 for Seles :D

95 for Graf (:D)

irma
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:40 PM
How did that Steffi get into the lead ? :eek:

I'd better cast my vote for Monica because I love her more :inlove:



VivalaSeles :kiss: :hearts: :worship: :lick: :wavey:

I think this poll is a little manipulated;)

I am innocent though :angel: (no really)

bandabou
Nov 27th, 2003, 04:43 PM
Yeah, some people here have voted more than once!! :lol:

Jakub
Nov 27th, 2003, 06:35 PM
definitely Monica :)

Robert1
Nov 27th, 2003, 07:35 PM
for a player who sucks so much you are rather obsessed with her.

should you not let her go?

Hi Irma, quite wise words for a person with such a low IQ. Respect, lol :)

AaronJoyB
Nov 27th, 2003, 07:56 PM
Steffi for sure!

bandabou
Nov 27th, 2003, 07:57 PM
for a player who sucks so much you are rather obsessed with her.

should you not let her go?

Hi Irma, quite wise words for a person with such a low IQ. Respect, lol :)

:haha: :rolls: :haha: :rolls:

Dang, Irma! R U gonna take that?!

irma
Nov 27th, 2003, 08:13 PM
:haha: :rolls: :haha: :rolls:

Dang, Irma! R U gonna take that?!

nah if people think I am stupid then I let them;)

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:24 PM
for a player who sucks so much you are rather obsessed with her.

should you not let her go?

Hi Irma, quite wise words for a person with such a low IQ. Respect, lol :)

Behave yourself :mad: Irma is a wonderful poster :kiss: :worship: She just has bad taste as far as tennis players are concerned ;) And stop trying to create animosity between Seles's and Graf's fans :fiery:

AjdeNate!
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:29 PM
Word to Vivala!!! :worship:

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:29 PM
VivalaSeles :kiss: :hearts: :worship: :lick: :wavey:

:kiss: :hearts: :bounce: :worship: Kart :worship: :bounce: :hearts: :kiss:

Gallofa
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:30 PM
nah if people think I am stupid then I let them;)

I have always believed there is great power to be drawn from having people think you are stupid :D ;)

I voted for Graf (sorry, Viva, I guess the heart does grow fonder with absence :p) I truly enjoyed all her matches against Arantxa :D

And no, do not remind me of all of Steffi's wins, irma!!! ;)

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:32 PM
Word to Vivala!!! :worship:

Athenaeum, were you always called that way ? Or have you changed username ? Anyway, it's great to have you in our Selestial gatherings :bounce:

AjdeNate!
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:32 PM
Athenaeum, were you always called that way ? Or have you changed username ? Anyway, it's great to have you in our Selestial gatherings :bounce:
Sorry mate... I used to be 'Seles'. :D :wavey: :bounce:

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:35 PM
I have always believed there is great power to be drawn from having people think you are stupid :D ;)

I voted for Graf (sorry, Viva, I guess the heart does grow fonder with absence :p) I truly enjoyed all her matches against Arantxa :D

And no, do not remind me of all of Steffi's wins, irma!!! ;)


How could you do that ? ;) You have broken my Selestial heart ;) :sad: :sad: I forgive you this time ;)

VivalaSeles
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:38 PM
Sorry mate... I used to be 'Seles'. :D :wavey: :bounce:

It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance for a second time, Seles :bounce: :wavey: :hearts:

AjdeNate!
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:43 PM
It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance for a second time, Seles :bounce: :wavey: :hearts:
I felt wrong honour her by 'stealing' her name. ;) :haha: And nice to see you again :hearts:

Joana
Nov 27th, 2003, 09:45 PM
OK people, we may argue, but remember that this rivalry is one of the greatest things that have ever happened to tennis. What would Steffi be without Monica? And vice versa?

Robert1
Nov 28th, 2003, 12:16 AM
Viva: Everyone that likes Graf is not a real Monica fan. This poll is pointless as most of the people here have never seen their fave live, let alone talked to them. And many have never seen a single match of Monica before they stabbing, they absolutely have no clue. Besides, I checked the messages and about 7 people that voted for Graf are here as different users, at least 70 pro-Graf votes are faked.

bandabou
Nov 28th, 2003, 12:24 AM
Behave yourself :mad: Irma is a wonderful poster :kiss: :worship: She just has bad taste as far as tennis players are concerned ;) And stop trying to create animosity between Seles's and Graf's fans :fiery:

well said, Viva....Irma is a brilliant and respected poster on this board! :worship:

Seles_Beckham
Nov 28th, 2003, 12:32 AM
MONIKA SELES :bounce:

LTT
Nov 28th, 2003, 12:35 AM
99 each!! wow!

GoDominique
Nov 28th, 2003, 12:39 AM
Monica will win this poll. Her fans just have more practice in voting.

faboozadoo15
Nov 28th, 2003, 02:03 AM
now what's that supposed to mean???

Berlin_Calling
Nov 28th, 2003, 02:04 AM
Steffi but Monica isnt too far behind.

skanky~skanketta
Nov 28th, 2003, 03:52 AM
cant stand steffi, sorry. only cuz she kept beating all my faves!:mad:

but i'll never say that she didn't deserve her wins. she did. very talented woman.

hingis-seles
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:10 AM
cant stand steffi, sorry. only cuz she kept beating all my faves!:mad:

but i'll never say that she didn't deserve her wins. she did. very talented woman.

Word to VCR! :worship:

That Steffi was always a thorn in my faves' side. :p :devil:

hingis-seles
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:13 AM
Behave yourself :mad: Irma is a wonderful poster :kiss: :worship: She just has bad taste as far as tennis players are concerned ;) And stop trying to create animosity between Seles's and Graf's fans :fiery:

Vivala! :wavey: :kiss: :hug:

Irma! :hearts: :kiss: She's an in-the-closet Selestial. :secret:

:lol: @ her bad taste. :p :devil:

hingis-seles
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Sorry mate... I used to be 'Seles'. :D :wavey: :bounce:

I knew it!!! :bigwave:

I suspected it was a name change from 'Seles' but I was too shy to ask. :awww:

;) :p

hingis-seles
Nov 28th, 2003, 04:20 AM
M. Seles leads 103-99. :bounce:

Mister B
Nov 28th, 2003, 05:33 PM
Wow this is so close!!! Incredible...

R&J
Nov 28th, 2003, 08:45 PM
:singer: "Go Monica! Its almost your birthday!"

hingis-seles
Nov 29th, 2003, 05:37 AM
107-103! :yeah:

Nicoleke
Nov 29th, 2003, 11:37 AM
Both of them :) ..... I voted for Monica Seles .....

hollywood7172
Nov 29th, 2003, 04:01 PM
who do you like more? seles or graf?

capriati ::wavey::

Cilla
Nov 29th, 2003, 04:10 PM
Steffi always :worship:

hingis-seles
Nov 29th, 2003, 08:11 PM
Seles!!!!

tjord00
Nov 29th, 2003, 09:22 PM
Monica is so awesome and eccentric being left handed and two handed off both sides!!! How can you say Graf is better? hehe

Brαm
Nov 29th, 2003, 09:50 PM
111-109 :cool:

hythger
Nov 29th, 2003, 09:58 PM
Steffi all the way :worship:
But i di like seles ;)

Robert1
Nov 29th, 2003, 10:12 PM
>>>>>Monica is so awesome and eccentric being left handed and two handed off both sides!!! How can you say Graf is better? hehe

You say that if you are a boring person.

Martian KC
Nov 29th, 2003, 10:12 PM
Monica!!!!!!!!!!!!!! graf doesn't even compare.

Roxers
Nov 30th, 2003, 10:51 AM
111 - 111 :bounce:

Narciszuz
Nov 30th, 2003, 12:01 PM
I voted for Graf............. :wavey:

She the Best.

morbidangle
Nov 30th, 2003, 01:17 PM
Steffi! :bounce:

ALL THE WAY!!

schris
Nov 30th, 2003, 01:26 PM
Both... but Steffi is my IDOL :)

Scotso
Nov 30th, 2003, 02:12 PM
Steffi ahead :D

hingis-seles
Dec 1st, 2003, 12:10 PM
Monica. :hearts:

Princess Fiona
Dec 1st, 2003, 03:27 PM
I voted for Seles...

kerbear
Dec 1st, 2003, 03:44 PM
Well I guess I evened it out to 150-150 by voting for Monica.

Bероника
Dec 1st, 2003, 04:15 PM
Monica Is The Best!!!!

hingis-seles
Dec 1st, 2003, 04:39 PM
Seles edges Graf 116-115. :bounce:

Robert1
Dec 1st, 2003, 10:56 PM
Monica is the better player.

rada
Dec 2nd, 2003, 12:37 AM
monica by far is better....graf coundn't win a GS when monica was there...when monica got sabbed graf was happy....monica still came back and still play's good tennis that makes her the better payer and a hero>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>well done monica

HotSpot
Dec 2nd, 2003, 02:32 AM
50.05% - 49.95% for Steffi..........

VivalaSeles
Dec 2nd, 2003, 10:19 AM
:eek: Tied :eek:

hingis-seles
Dec 2nd, 2003, 11:29 AM
This is so amazing.....:eek:

AleOrtu
Dec 2nd, 2003, 03:49 PM
Stefi, no doubt

saki
Dec 2nd, 2003, 04:30 PM
Did anyone think it would be this close? Seems bizarre to me! But, go Steffi!

Robert1
Dec 2nd, 2003, 06:28 PM
It's close because it's faked. Besides, many Graf fans can't even spell their fave's name right.

DA FOREHAND
Dec 2nd, 2003, 06:56 PM
Steffi!

G-Ha
Dec 2nd, 2003, 10:24 PM
It's close because it's faked. Besides, many Graf fans can't even spell their fave's name right.

You've told us several times that this poll is fake and pointless and that Monica has many more fans than Steffi. So why are you in here monitoring it so closely if this poll is meaningless to you?

ttaM
Dec 2nd, 2003, 10:28 PM
117+119=236. Has this poll had the most voter turn out in WTAworld history? :lol:

Ballbuster
Dec 3rd, 2003, 05:48 AM
Yaaaahhhhh

Graffy Wins!!!!

hingis-seles
Dec 3rd, 2003, 11:01 AM
Not yet, Ball-less.

Lee C
Dec 3rd, 2003, 12:56 PM
Monica of course, I like Steffi more now than when she was dominating in Monica's absence though.

JaneAgain
Dec 3rd, 2003, 03:55 PM
This reminds me of the '92 RG final. We are at 8-8 in the 3rd set.

The amazing thing is that this all too brief rivalry, really only a handfull of matches, that essentially ended more than a decade ago can still ellicit so many responses.

It should make all tennis fans sad to think what was lost when Monica was stabbed. Graf/Seles should have been one of the greatest rivalries ever.

hingis-seles
Dec 3rd, 2003, 04:10 PM
119-119:D

Crazy_Fool
Dec 3rd, 2003, 04:17 PM
i went for graf...mainly cos she's married to one of my fav players!

Belgium = Best
Dec 3rd, 2003, 07:27 PM
Monica. I never saw Steffi playing :)

wongqks
Dec 3rd, 2003, 07:58 PM
OMg this is actually so close that it is funny, but Go Monica ;)

MisterQ
Dec 3rd, 2003, 08:01 PM
This reminds me of the '92 RG final. We are at 8-8 in the 3rd set.

The amazing thing is that this all too brief rivalry, really only a handfull of matches, that essentially ended more than a decade ago can still ellicit so many responses.

It should make all tennis fans sad to think what was lost when Monica was stabbed. Graf/Seles should have been one of the greatest rivalries ever.

Yeah, it's kind of like McEnroe/Borg. They didn't actually play that much (it ended up 7-7), but those matches were so awesome! a lot like Monica and Steffi.

Bероника
Dec 4th, 2003, 03:46 PM
wow this poll is still going on.
GO MONICA!!!

tennisjam
Dec 5th, 2003, 04:49 PM
Graf :angel: ...when she was losing !!!!! :devil:

tennisjam
Dec 5th, 2003, 04:50 PM
Hello irma :wavey: ;)

modusbg
Dec 5th, 2003, 10:16 PM
ma naravno da vise volim moniku,ona je legenda.zena koja je promenila tenis zauvek,posle nje u tenisu nista vise nije isto...

ona je pocetak jedne revolucije,posle nje tek dolazeserena,venus,martina i jenn...izuzetan talenat i jos veci radnik,da li ima ista bolje???

MONIKA,off course

irma
Dec 6th, 2003, 05:55 AM
Hello irma :wavey: ;)

Hi tennisjam :wavey:

I know you are a steffi fan deep inside :devil: ;)

faboozadoo15
Dec 6th, 2003, 05:57 AM
124-124--- lol.... WOW

hingis-seles
Dec 6th, 2003, 07:32 AM
These gals are good...no wait....make that great!!!

Fyndh0rnElf
Dec 6th, 2003, 07:52 AM
SELES!

Seles would never turn the crowd against an opponent (say Hingis), not even if it were in her farewell tour (say Graf 1999), not even in a grand slam final (say FO 1999)

For me, Graf is up there with Henin with those that got to the top, no doubt, but with some stainds in their careers. Graf- attack on Seles, FO99; Henin - time outs, hands, winning 2 finals against a choking Clijsters and 1 time without sisters around.

G-Ha
Dec 6th, 2003, 08:11 AM
SELES!

Seles would never turn the crowd against an opponent (say Hingis), not even if it were in her farewell tour (say Graf 1999), not even in a grand slam final (say FO 1999)

For me, Graf is up there with Henin with those that got to the top, no doubt, but with some stainds in their careers. Graf- attack on Seles, FO99; Henin - time outs, hands, winning 2 finals against a choking Clijsters and 1 time without sisters around.

LOL! You are pure comedy! Yes, Steffi single-handedly turned the crowd against Hingis...poor Hingis was just an innocent bystander. Whatever it is you're smoking, could you please pass it around and share with the rest of us?

irma
Dec 6th, 2003, 08:19 AM
LOL! You are pure comedy! Yes, Steffi single-handedly turned the crowd against Hingis...poor Hingis was just an innocent bystander. Whatever it is you're smoking, could you please pass it around and share with the rest of us?


well they missed part 1 which I can understand not everybody gets quarterfinals in tier 1's on tv;)
oh wait people who saw it say it was entertaining the crowd. well steffi was entertaining too :lol:

Martian KC
Dec 6th, 2003, 08:30 AM
Now, let's not put all the blame on graf. Most of it should go to Anne-Lassure.;) Granted graf probably did intimidate her with a twitch of the ol schnauser.

hingis-seles
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:09 PM
well they missed part 1 which I can understand not everybody gets quarterfinals in tier 1's on tv;)
oh wait people who saw it say it was entertaining the crowd. well steffi was entertaining too :lol:

If you're talking about Tokyo 1999, I still fail to see how juggling tennis balls is disrespectful. :rolleyes:

Also, crossing the net to check the mark and an underhanded serve are perfectly fine by me. I fail to see what all the fuss is about. Navratilova crossed the net in 1985. Chang served underhanded in 1989. No complaints there. But then again, Hingis has always been more interesting as a personality than any of the other players.

And then you wonder why tennis is considered an elitist sport. :rolleyes:

irma
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:18 PM
If you're talking about Tokyo 1999, I still fail to see how juggling tennis balls is disrespectful. :rolleyes:

Also, crossing the net to check the mark and an underhanded serve are perfectly fine by me. I fail to see what all the fuss is about. Navratilova crossed the net in 1985. Chang served underhanded in 1989. No complaints there. But then again, Hingis has always been more interesting as a personality than any of the other players.

And then you wonder why tennis is considered an elitist sport. :rolleyes:

it's not more or less disrespectfull then making a wave with the crowd

other then I don't blame martina for anything she did in french 99 afterall she only hurt herself

it gets only funny when martina fan try to make her the innocent victim over evil steffi :lol:

and as said many time before the french crowd was totally pro steffi in 92 too. did it stop her opponent?

Kart
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:19 PM
SELES!

Seles would never turn the crowd against an opponent (say Hingis), not even if it were in her farewell tour (say Graf 1999), not even in a grand slam final (say FO 1999)

For me, Graf is up there with Henin with those that got to the top, no doubt, but with some stainds in their careers. Graf- attack on Seles, FO99; Henin - time outs, hands, winning 2 finals against a choking Clijsters and 1 time without sisters around.

:rolls: What planet are you on ?

GoDominique
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:21 PM
Crossing the net is not allowed.

People can do it in non-official matches, but only if the opponent allows it.

Kart
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:22 PM
Now, let's not put all the blame on graf. Most of it should go to Anne-Lassure.;) Granted graf probably did intimidate her with a twitch of the ol schnauser.

Her taking part in the Mexican wave would have intimidated anybody :tape:.

Who knew Steffi on court could be more than a robot ?

irma
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:25 PM
Her taking part in the Mexican wave would have intimidated anybody :tape:.

Who knew Steffi on court could be more than a robot ?

anybody who actually watched her and didn't judge on the media;)

Kart
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:28 PM
I know irma :hearts: but when was the last time Steffi had gotten involved with the crowd DURING a match ?

Maybe Steffi was high on the romance that was budding for her that weekend ;) :tape:.

irma
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:31 PM
wimbledon 96 I guess

and yeah it's all Andre's fault;)

tennischick
Dec 6th, 2003, 12:36 PM
i love Hingis and miss her terribly, but how anyone can defend her behavior at RG 1999 is beyond me. however that match remains one of the most entertaining tennis matches EVER. it's a tape that i will watch at least once a year for the sheer entertainment value. they were both funny and remarkable in different ways.

Fyndh0rnElf
Dec 7th, 2003, 01:08 AM
LOL! You are pure comedy! Yes, Steffi single-handedly turned the crowd against Hingis...poor Hingis was just an innocent bystander. Whatever it is you're smoking, could you please pass it around and share with the rest of us?
Well you're right. She didn't turn it against Hingis. But she used it to her full advantage and had to have her say to the umpire, when Hingis was complaining because the crowd wouldn't let her serve. Seles would NEVER do that. That's the difference between them and that's why I like Seles more, even though maybe I liked Graf's game more, but that's not the question here.

irma
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:06 AM
so martina could complain, but steffi couldn't? :haha:

and I though people liked emotions on court anyway but when steffi does it she should stay quiet?

the doubles standards of tennisworld are so ridiculous;)

hingis-seles
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:36 AM
Monica Seles is in a class of her own. :hearts:

Love ya, Moni! :hug:

Fyndh0rnElf
Dec 7th, 2003, 03:48 PM
so martina could complain, but steffi couldn't? :haha:

and I though people liked emotions on court anyway but when steffi does it she should stay quiet?

the doubles standards of tennisworld are so ridiculous;)

Martina couldn't serve. Steffi seized the opportunity to annoy her a little bit more. Seles would never do that

GoDominique
Dec 7th, 2003, 04:45 PM
Martina couldn't serve. Steffi seized the opportunity to annoy her a little bit more. Seles would never do that
That is total nonsense.

Martina voluntarily decided to go on with her 2nd underarm serve, although the crowd was still a bit noisy but not too much.
Only AFTER her serve the crowd began to boo and whistly loudly but it didn't matter because the serve was far too long anyway.

No need to complain to the umpire. And that took forever, so Steffi was right to go and make it stop.

DA FOREHAND
Dec 7th, 2003, 05:03 PM
Martina couldn't serve. Steffi seized the opportunity to annoy her a little bit more. Seles would never do that

Seles annoyed many w/her shrills everytime she struck a ball. I love her grunting some don't.


I'm glad Steffi retired ranked near the top #3(highest ret. ranking ever) so that those who hated her may continue. Much better than fading into a shadow of former self and having legions feel sorry for you.

hingis-seles
Dec 7th, 2003, 05:10 PM
Seles annoyed many w/her shrills everytime she struck a ball. I love her grunting some don't.


I'm glad Steffi retired ranked near the top #3(highest ret. ranking ever) so that those who hated her may continue. Much better than fading into a shadow of former self and having legions feel sorry for you.

The only time there was any real furor regarding Monica's grunting was when she was invincible. She was so good, it was scary. The players didn't know how else to beat her so they decided to complain about her grunting. And who complained?

Tauziat - Never beat Monica.

Navratilova - Despite it being Wimbledon, Seles was the better player at that point in time. She had never before complained.

JenPot - Even though Monica was no longer in her prime, she owns Jen. Jen knew that and let it get to her.

irma
Dec 7th, 2003, 05:36 PM
Martina couldn't serve. Steffi seized the opportunity to annoy her a little bit more. Seles would never do that

:lol: so steffi should have bowed till martina decided to continue

as I said many times with me and some other players too worse things had happened then simply reminding why they were there. Imagine cappy in the same situation? :devil:

hingis-seles
Dec 7th, 2003, 05:52 PM
:lol: so steffi should have bowed till martina decided to continue

as I said many times with me and some other players too worse things had happened then simply reminding why they were there. Imagine cappy in the same situation? :devil:

You forget. JenPot is American and her last name isn't Williams, meaning she can get away with just about anything and still be the media favourite. :rolleyes:

irma
Dec 7th, 2003, 05:55 PM
that's true of course :rolleyes:

remember how she was screaming when monica was at the toilet at aussie open 2001 (that also stops the crap that succes changed her;))

Crazy_Fool
Dec 7th, 2003, 05:58 PM
You forget. JenPot is American and her last name isn't Williams, meaning she can get away with just about anything and still be the media favourite. :rolleyes:
LOL. Why do the media have so much sympathy for her?!! Dont get it :confused:

Martian KC
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:05 PM
so martina could complain, but steffi couldn't? :haha:

and I though people liked emotions on court anyway but when steffi does it she should stay quiet?

the doubles standards of tennisworld are so ridiculous;)

:confused: What did graf have to complain about? She got her way. :rolleyes:

irma
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:17 PM
martina and anne lassere ulrich could have hold their teaparty afterwards :o

Martian KC
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:18 PM
Only if they're serving german buntcakes.:tape:

Ballbuster
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:31 PM
The history books will reflect Steffi as far Superior to Monica.

This useless poll is mostly driven by passionate monica backers. On this board you'd think Monica would surely run away with this poll. It just goes to show you diehard Monica fans that there are posters who BELIEVE Steffi is superior no matter what Monica's circumstances were that befallen her - and she was!

R&J
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:35 PM
The history books will reflect Steffi as far Superior to Monica.

This useless poll is mostly driven by passionate monica backers. On this board you'd think Monica would surely run away with this poll. It just goes to show you diehard Monica fans that there are posters who BELIEVE Steffi is superior no matter what Monica's circumstances were that befallen her - and she was!
So you are upset at how this poll is going?:confused:

AjdeNate!
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:36 PM
:yawn: We're still talking about this?
I like them both. They're both great Champions. Innovators of the sport. They both changed the sport for the better for future generations.

I miss them both. The early 90s were SO much better of a tennis time than now.

Diya
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:37 PM
The history books will reflect Steffi as far Superior to Monica.

This useless poll is mostly driven by passionate monica backers. On this board you'd think Monica would surely run away with this poll. It just goes to show you diehard Monica fans that there are posters who BELIEVE Steffi is superior no matter what Monica's circumstances were that befallen her - and she was!


Hi :retard:

The poll is about who you LIKE more not who is/was better but then you are so ..........never mind :tape:

Martian KC
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:41 PM
The history books will reflect Steffi as far Superior to Monica.

This useless poll is mostly driven by passionate monica backers. On this board you'd think Monica would surely run away with this poll. It just goes to show you diehard Monica fans that there are posters who BELIEVE Steffi is superior no matter what Monica's circumstances were that befallen her - and she was!

The dense willifan shows up to a thread he has no business to display his ignorance. :lol: :haha:

irma
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:42 PM
:yawn: We're still talking about this?
I like them both. They're both great Champions. Innovators of the sport. They both changed the sport for the better for future generations.

I miss them both. The early 90s were SO much better of a tennis time than now.

me too. tennis wise it was the best time imho and see ballbuster steffi was not superior then and I still loved her so succes has nothing to do with it (outside tennis my life was hell those days though but tennis was nice and fun those days also because I was young and naive :lol: )

bandabou
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:43 PM
And then my question is: What is Martian doing in here?!

Martian KC
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:45 PM
Because I'm actually a fan of Monica!:eek: Hard to understand?

bandabou
Dec 7th, 2003, 08:49 PM
Oh yeah, but of course.....then you go in the other thread which doesnīt involve Monica.

Then you wanna tell a Williams-fan to not post in this thread?!

faboozadoo15
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:00 PM
i think we should make special circumstances for dumbasses like ballbuster... he shouldn't be allowed to go into any thread :lol:
im willing to bet that 75% of his posts reflect an anti-monica bias, which is obsession.

plus :tape: he makes others look dumb for trying to defend him!

bandabou
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:02 PM
No, I ainīt defending no one....but Martian said whilliphites and then he crossed the line.

faboozadoo15
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:03 PM
ballbuster-- turning off your rep points was the "smartest thing you've ever done"... i've done a poll, and that beat out your "ability to breathe"...

Kart
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:20 PM
remember how she was screaming when monica was at the toilet at aussie open 2001 (that also stops the crap that succes changed her;))

Here was I thinking that only a Monica fan would remember something like that :angel: ;).

justine&coria
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:20 PM
I have the feeling, that some Seles fans are registering once again in wtaworld.com, in order to vote more than one time !!
(I'm sorry for my English, I can't explain it better )
And it might be the same with Graf's fans !

I remember there were some polls, when we could know who voted for whom ! This poll should have been one like this !!!

Kart
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:23 PM
The history books will reflect Steffi as far Superior to Monica.

This useless poll is mostly driven by passionate monica backers. On this board you'd think Monica would surely run away with this poll. It just goes to show you diehard Monica fans that there are posters who BELIEVE Steffi is superior no matter what Monica's circumstances were that befallen her - and she was!

This poll is being driven by passionate Monica and passionate Steffi fans.

Don't get it twisted :p.

faboozadoo15
Dec 8th, 2003, 01:14 AM
still bitter that monica almost beat justine for hero of the year despite being taken off the list and added a few weeks late??? :lol:

rada
Dec 8th, 2003, 02:18 AM
monica is always going to be the better player and in GS when steffi meet monica in the final before the sabbing monica was the winner all the time and still would have kick her butt if the sabbing didn't happen we all know that...monica is still out on tour she is a hero she gives to her fan's :)

Fyndh0rnElf
Dec 8th, 2003, 02:27 AM
that's true of course :rolleyes:

remember how she was screaming when monica was at the toilet at aussie open 2001 (that also stops the crap that succes changed her;))

Is this true? :haha: She is the biggest brat ever! And they talk about Chucky... :haha:

hingis-seles
Dec 8th, 2003, 03:47 AM
Here was I thinking that only a Monica fan would remember something like that :angel: ;).

How observant of you, Kart. :devil:

Irma, is the cat out of the bag? ;) :angel:

hingis-seles
Dec 8th, 2003, 03:49 AM
Is this true? :haha: She is the biggest brat ever! And they talk about Chucky... :haha:

They talk about Chucky because she was a European. If Chucky had done half the stuff JenPot did, she would have been crucified by the media by now....not that she nearly wasn't.

JenPot is treated with kid gloves. Who can forget the 2002 AO final. Being a white American sure has its advantages. :rolleyes:

tennisjam
Dec 8th, 2003, 11:19 AM
Monica is a tennis saint :angel:

aussie_stars
Dec 8th, 2003, 12:05 PM
wow its real close.....so it should be- they are both great

Kart
Dec 8th, 2003, 04:13 PM
How observant of you, Kart. :devil:

Irma, is the cat out of the bag? ;) :angel:

I knew you'd pick up on that if I didn't ;).

I think she's teasing us though - we may have to break down the closet door and drag her out :devil:.

Robert1
Dec 8th, 2003, 04:17 PM
Ball-less: If Graf was so superior why was she in a devastated state after Berlin 90 or Australian Open 93? And why did Monica win much much much much much more from 90 to 93, when Graf was oh so superior? Is your message meant as a joke?

Someone said some players were picking on Monica's grunting and that that was due to her grunting cause otherwise she was invincible. That is 100% right!

Monica's gone through a lot, nobody else had to go through all that shit she had to suffer, still she goes out there and tries hard. There's no need for pity as she purely loves this game and that's why she's still playing. And that again makes her extra-special, she plays for the sheer joy of playing Tennis. She is not afraid of losing to players she used to beat, and she's not afraid of dropping down in the rankings, like others do who quickly try to get their name out of the rankings as long as it is as high as possible.

irma
Dec 8th, 2003, 04:20 PM
steffi being in a devasting state after berlin 90 had nothing to do with monica. everybody knows that :o

steffi said herself the only time she was devasted because of tennis was in feb 91. who wouldn't though in such a situation being the mentally weakest player on tour while being the stronger 13 months ago

but anybody can go through something like that;)

DA FOREHAND
Dec 8th, 2003, 04:26 PM
The only time there was any real furor regarding Monica's grunting was when she was invincible. She was so good, it was scary. The players didn't know how else to beat her so they decided to complain about her grunting. And who complained?

Tauziat - Never beat Monica.

Navratilova - Despite it being Wimbledon, Seles was the better player at that point in time. She had never before complained.

JenPot - Even though Monica was no longer in her prime, she owns Jen. Jen knew that and let it get to her.


Problem with your post is Monica was never invincible. I don't remember her going through a season w/fewer than five losses or winning all four majors in a calander year, let alone her career.

Monica :angel: was damned good, invincible .....NOT...

Dennis
Dec 8th, 2003, 05:12 PM
Monica was not ONLY invincible, she was "cleaning the court with everyone else" to quote a swedish comentator Maria Strandlund (former WTA player).

I am not sure if I translated it correctly to english, but you get what I mean. Invincible or not she was ruling the tennis scene at that time and would continue to do so unless that crime happened.

DA FOREHAND
Dec 8th, 2003, 05:15 PM
Yes w/everyone else...except STEFFI GRAF.

irma
Dec 8th, 2003, 05:27 PM
I knew you'd pick up on that if I didn't ;).

I think she's teasing us though - we may have to break down the closet door and drag her out :devil:.

I am evil :devil:

bandabou
Dec 8th, 2003, 05:30 PM
Problem with your post is Monica was never invincible. I don't remember her going through a season w/fewer than five losses or winning all four majors in a calander year, let alone her career.

Monica :angel: was damned good, invincible .....NOT...

Neither was Graf,because she never had an undefeated season.....

DA FOREHAND
Dec 8th, 2003, 05:33 PM
I've never heard a Graf fan say she was invincible....She came much closer than Seles ever did though, two losses in a season.

FYI, She's the last player to win THE GRAND SLAM.

irma
Dec 8th, 2003, 05:40 PM
I have seen steffi fans who said that but a fan has a right to say it about nav,evert,monica, steffi etc even sabatini :hearts:@kart

it gets worrisome when it means you can't respect the other players anymore and think they are shit!

hingis-seles
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:26 PM
I've never heard a Graf fan say she was invincible....She came much closer than Seles ever did though, two losses in a season.

FYI, She's the last player to win THE GRAND SLAM.

I used "invincible" as a hyperbole. But, you get my drift. If I remember correctly, the post you were quoting me had nothing to do with Steffi. I never even mentioned Steffi in that post. Why is their this obsession to bring Steffi into everything and compare her? Are you that insecure about her?

hingis-seles
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:29 PM
Problem with your post is Monica was never invincible. I don't remember her going through a season w/fewer than five losses or winning all four majors in a calander year, let alone her career.

Monica :angel: was damned good, invincible .....NOT...

She may not have been invincible, but she was the best.

The reason you "don't remember her going through a season w/fewer than five losses or winning all four majors in a calendar year, let alone her career" is because you never got to see her play in her prime. We never saw the best of Monica Seles. No one did.

hingis-seles
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:33 PM
I knew you'd pick up on that if I didn't ;).

I think she's teasing us though - we may have to break down the closet door and drag her out :devil:.


Irma's turning out be quite a tease. :devil: Naughty girl! :drool:

Kart, the closet door's unlocked. She just needs to push those doors open. She needs to come out of the dark :tape: and see the light. :angel: ;):p

bandabou
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:36 PM
I've never heard a Graf fan say she was invincible....She came much closer than Seles ever did though, two losses in a season.

FYI, She's the last player to win THE GRAND SLAM.

Didnīt someone bring up winning all four-slams as a reason to consider Graf as invincible?!

irma
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:42 PM
Irma's turning out be quite a tease. :devil: Naughty girl! :drool:

Kart, the closet door's unlocked. She just needs to push those doors open. She needs to come out of the dark :tape: and see the light. :angel: ;):p

I am too scared :devil:

Kart
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:48 PM
Irma's turning out be quite a tease. :devil: Naughty girl! :drool:

Kart, the closet door's unlocked. She just needs to push those doors open. She needs to come out of the dark :tape: and see the light. :angel: ;):p

:rolls:

Once she's out we'd better not let her go back in - I'll get the rope, you get some handcuffs :tape:.

Kart
Dec 8th, 2003, 06:50 PM
I am too scared :devil:

Don't be scared irma :hearts: - we don't bite :toothy: (ok I've been looking for an excuse to use this icon for ages ;)).

Robert1
Dec 8th, 2003, 07:11 PM
Da Forhand: Monica had only 1 loss in 1993 and only 1 loss in 1995. I don't think Graf ever achived this. So Monica was closer to being invincible. PLUS: The competition was better in 91,92 than in 88.