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Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:41 PM
I have been a huge fan of Mary Joe's and her worst enemy was always Steffi to whom she lost 15+ matches from her first and last meetings with the German. This is the worst and most humiliating h2h I could think of.
If we could include families, then my vote would have to go to the Maleevas against, again, Steffi. Combining all the three sisters, they beat Steffi ZERO time if my memory serves and they played her more than 30 times in total!

crazillo
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:46 PM
perhaps they won against steffi in doubles????

curious are also the h2h with hingis - testud, novotna - davenport, maleeva - davenport/v.williams...

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:49 PM
I changed the thread title as I thought it suited ppl's interest better.

WhatTheDeuce
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:49 PM
kournikova/hingis :o

seles/conchita martinez :o

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:52 PM
Serena vs Lindsay 9-2. Not even at the top of her levels, Lindsay couldnīt handle Serena. Some really beatings out there.

Serena vs Kim 9-1. Some were close, but still...

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:58 PM
Conchita is 21:6 against the Maleeva (and 5 of those wins came from Manuela! I guess this stat is misleading as Manuela actually has a favorable H2H 5-4)

beecharmer
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:58 PM
yep, Graf went 17-0 with MJF, 21 - 0 with Tauziat, and 36 - 0 with the Maleeva sisters! Youd have thought Manuela would have beaten here in the mid 80s, but Graf crushed her 2 and 2 in 1985

Knizzle
Nov 22nd, 2003, 07:59 PM
Steffi humiliated ALOT of players.

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:00 PM
Wow.....Mary Pierce bt. Hingis 6-0 6-0 at the Canadian Open!

miranda_lou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:00 PM
Didn't one of the French women have zero wins against Steffi? Or maybe she was Belgian.:rolleyes: Can't remember. Where's Irma?

But, the most humiliating loss to Steffi has to be Natasha's love-love final at the French in 1988. :lol:

Poor Mary Joe almost won the French Open against Stef in 1993. I think that still haunts Mary Joe but it doesn't stop her from still being friends with Stef (their kids have play dates together). :kiss:

fried_beans
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:02 PM
Seles/Sugiyama ....its like 11-0 and Ai didnt even get a set off Monica till 2002 wimbledon on Seles' worst surface.

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:03 PM
Steffi GRAF (GER) v Sandrine TESTUD (FRA)

1993 San Diego Hard (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-1
1994 Australian Open Hard (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-2
1997 Strasbourg Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 3-6 6-2 6-1

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 3 : 0

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:03 PM
Seles/Sugiyama ....its like 11-0 and Ai didnt even get a set off Monica till 2002 wimbledon on Seles' worst surface.


Monica SELES (USA) v Ai SUGIYAMA (JPN)

1996 Fed Cup (WG-SF) Carpet (I) R2 Monica SELES 6-2 6-2
1997 San Diego Hard (O) 16 Monica SELES 6-4 6-4
1998 San Diego Hard (O) QF Monica SELES 6-4 6-3
1998 Philadelphia Carpet (I) 16 Monica SELES 6-3 7-5
1999 US Open Hard (O) 32 Monica SELES 6-2 6-3
1999 Tokyo Hard (O) SF Monica SELES 6-3 7-6
2001 Japan Open Hard (O) SF Monica SELES 7-5 6-4
2002 Indian Wells Hard (O) 16 Monica SELES 6-0 6-1
2002 Wimbledon Grass (O) 32 Monica SELES 4-6 6-1 6-4
2003 Tokyo Carpet (I) 16 Monica SELES 7-5 5-7 6-1

Monica SELES (USA) leads 10 : 0

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:04 PM
Graf is 21-0 against Tauzi!

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:04 PM
Joo-steen is 5-2 against Capriati, with one of Capriati's wins coming through retirement!

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:05 PM
I think Serenaīs becoming the new Steffi. Does anyone active have a winning h2h against her?!

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:06 PM
I think Serenaīs becoming the new Steffi. Does anyone active have a winning h2h against her?!

No, she isn't. She doesn't play enough matches to make her h2h records humiliating!

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:06 PM
Martina N. was 39-3 against Miss Shriver! :lol:

irma
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:07 PM
steffi-sabatini
many think sabatini was dominating steffi in head to head

hello 29:11 is a difference of 18 matches. that's dominating;)

Kart :kiss:

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:08 PM
Serena WILLIAMS (USA) v Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP)

1998 Sydney Hard (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 2-6 1-6
1998 French Open Clay (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 5-7 3-6
1998 Eastbourne Grass (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 4-6 4-6
1999 Berlin Clay (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 3-6 2-3 Retired
1999 Manhattan Beach Hard (O) QF Serena WILLIAMS 6-2 6-3
1999 Grand Slam Cup Hard (I) QF Serena WILLIAMS 6-3 6-1
2000 Canadian Open Hard (O) SF Serena WILLIAMS 6-2 6-4

Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) leads 4 : 3

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:09 PM
Martina N. was 39-3 against Miss Shriver! :lol:

hahaha I would like to know the scorelines of all their matches!
Poor Pam.. no wonder she never stopps kissing Marti's ass.

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:09 PM
Serena WILLIAMS (USA) v Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP)

1998 Sydney Hard (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 2-6 1-6
1998 French Open Clay (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 5-7 3-6
1998 Eastbourne Grass (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 4-6 4-6
1999 Berlin Clay (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 3-6 2-3 Retired
1999 Manhattan Beach Hard (O) QF Serena WILLIAMS 6-2 6-3
1999 Grand Slam Cup Hard (I) QF Serena WILLIAMS 6-3 6-1
2000 Canadian Open Hard (O) SF Serena WILLIAMS 6-2 6-4

Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) leads 4 : 3

This is indeed surprising!
:eek:

PointBlank
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:09 PM
Maleeva over Venus

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:11 PM
No, she isn't. She doesn't play enough matches to make her h2h records humiliating!

But she still beats every- and anybody!

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:11 PM
1978 Hilton Head Clay (O) 16 Martina NAVRATILOVA 7-5 2-6 1-6
1978 US Open Hard (O) SF Pam SHRIVER 7-6 7-6
1980 Kansas City Carpet (I) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 3-6 6-7
1980 Amelia Island Clay (O) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-7 1-6
1980 Orlando Clay (O) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 3-6 7-6 0-6
1980 Montreal Hard (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-4 1-6 5-7
1980 Richmond Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 5-7 5-7
1980 Sydney Grass (O) QF Pam SHRIVER 6-4 6-3
1981 Dallas Carpet (I) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 4-6
1981 Avon Championships Carpet (I) 32 Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-3 1-6 3-6
1981 Australian Open Grass (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 3-6 5-7
1981 East Rutherford Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 6-7
1982 US Open Hard (O) QF Pam SHRIVER 1-6 7-6 6-2
1982 Australian Open Grass (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 4-6
1983 Chicago Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 1-6 3-6
1983 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 1-6 2-6
1983 Manhattan Beach Hard (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 1-6
1983 US Open Hard (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 1-6
1983 Tarpon Springs Hard (O) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 3-6 2-6
1983 Australian Open Grass (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 3-6
1984 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-7 4-6
1984 Mahwah Hard (O) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 6-4 5-7
1985 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 4-6
1985 Wimbledon Grass (O) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-7 3-6
1985 Brisbane Grass (O) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 3-6 5-7
1986 Washington Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 1-6 1-6
1986 Worcester Carpet (I) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 1-6 4-6
1986 U.S. Indoors Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 4-6
1986 US Open Hard (O) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 4-6
1986 New Orleans Carpet (I) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 1-6 6-4 2-6
1986 Filderstadt Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 1-6 6-7
1986 Worcester Hard (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-3 6-7 4-6
1986 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 6-4 4-6
1987 Eastbourne Grass (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 6-4 3-6
1988 Dallas Hard (O) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 0-6 3-6
1988 Washington Hard (I) FR Martina NAVRATILOVA 0-6 2-6
1989 Worcester Carpet (I) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 0-6
1990 Chicago Carpet (I) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 3-6
1991 Chicago Carpet (I) 16 Martina NAVRATILOVA 6-7 1-6
1991 US Open Hard (O) 32 Martina NAVRATILOVA 5-7 1-6
1992 Chicago Carpet (I) QF Martina NAVRATILOVA 2-6 6-7
1992 San Antonio Hard (O) SF Martina NAVRATILOVA 4-6 3-6

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:12 PM
Magdalena MALEEVA (BUL) v Venus WILLIAMS (USA)

1995 Oakland Carpet (I) QF Magdalena MALEEVA 6-2 6-3
1998 Sydney Hard (O) QF Venus WILLIAMS 2-6 2-6
2001 Nice Carpet (I) SF Magdalena MALEEVA 7-6(8) 6-4
2002 Australian Open Hard (O) 16 Venus WILLIAMS 0-6 3-6
2002 Moscow Carpet (I) 16 Magdalena MALEEVA 2-6 6-1 7-6(3)

Magdalena MALEEVA (BUL) leads 3 : 2

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:15 PM
Serena WILLIAMS (USA) v Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP)

1998 Sydney Hard (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 2-6 1-6
1998 French Open Clay (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 5-7 3-6
1998 Eastbourne Grass (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 4-6 4-6
1999 Berlin Clay (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 3-6 2-3 Retired
1999 Manhattan Beach Hard (O) QF Serena WILLIAMS 6-2 6-3
1999 Grand Slam Cup Hard (I) QF Serena WILLIAMS 6-3 6-1
2000 Canadian Open Hard (O) SF Serena WILLIAMS 6-2 6-4

Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) leads 4 : 3


But we all saw where the rivalry was heading.

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:17 PM
But we all saw where the rivalry was heading.

True, but Arantxa chose the right time to call it a career!
She will go down as one of the very few pleyars who had a positive h2h record against Serena! Way to go, Arantxa!

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:27 PM
True, but Arantxa chose the right time to call it a career!
She will go down as one of the very few pleyars who had a positive h2h record against Serena! Way to go, Arantxa!


I know that there are at least two players with a winning h2h against Graf...so it ainīt like itīs only Serena.

Reichen
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:28 PM
The #1 and #2 Doubles players in the world, Paola Suarez, and Virginia Ruano Pascual have winning H2H's against Serena in singles!!!!:):);)

Paola Suarez (ARG) vs. Serena Williams (USA)
2000-04-10 Amelia Island Clay R32 Paola Suarez (ARG) 6-3 4-6 5-2 ret
Paola Suarez (ARG) leads 1:0

Virginia Ruano Pascual (ESP) vs. Serena Williams (USA)
1998-06-22 Wimbledon Grass R32 Virginia Ruano Pascual (ESP) 7-5 4-1 ret
Virginia Ruano Pascual (ESP) leads 1:0

VAMOS PAOLA:)!!!

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:31 PM
Would you believe it....when Serena was her little rookie.

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:31 PM
Would you believe it....when Serena was her little rookie.

Plz don't ruin our fun moments!

spencercarlos
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:33 PM
Would you believe it....when Serena was her little rookie.
Sorry but by 2000 Serena already had a slam win in her resume :p. Sure it will change once they meet again.

Alek
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:40 PM
Martina NAVRATILOVA (USA) Leads Zina GARRISON (USA) : 33 to 1

Year Tournament Round Surface Winner Score
1987 Australian Open QF Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 0-6 3-6
1983 Tarpon Springs SF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 4-6 1-6
1982 Wimbledon 16 Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 3-6 2-6
1985 Wimbledon SF Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 4-6 6-7
1990 Wimbledon FR Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 4-6 1-6
1985 US Open QF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 3-6
1988 US Open QF Hard (O) Z.GARRISON 6-4 6-7(3) 7-5
1989 US Open SF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 6-7(4) 2-6
1989 Birmingham FR Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 6-7 3-6
1986 Worcester QF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 2-6
1986 Chicago SF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 5-7
1988 Chicago QF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 3-6 3-6
1991 Chicago FR Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 2-6
1993 Chicago QF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 1-6
1988 Dallas SF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 6-1 3-6 2-6
1983 Eastbourne SF Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 3-6
1989 Worcester FR Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 3-6
1987 Houston SF Clay (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 6-7
1986 Los Angeles QF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 4-6 4-6
1989 Los Angeles SF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 4-6
1992 Los Angeles QF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 3-6 0-6
1990 Manhattan Beach SF Hard (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 0-6 7-6 4-6
1984 New Orleans FR Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 4-6 3-6
1986 New Orleans SF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 3-6 6-4 3-6
1984 Oakland QF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 1-6
1986 Oakland QF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 0-6
1988 Oakland SF Hard (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 0-6
1993 Oakland FR Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 6-7
1985 Washington SF Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 2-6
1988 Washington QF Hard (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 3-6
1990 Washington FR Carpet (I) M.NAVRATILOVA 1-6 0-6
1982 Sydney SF Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 6-7 1-6
1984 Sydney SF Grass (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 2-6 1-6
1982 French Open QF Clay (O) M.NAVRATILOVA 3-6 2-6

Martina NAVRATILOVA (USA) Leads Zina GARRISON (USA) : 33 to 1

fried_beans
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:43 PM
Sorry but by 2000 Serena already had a slam win in her resume :p. Sure it will change once they meet again.

To 2-0 :p jk

Reichen
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:47 PM
To 2-0 :p jk

:banana: ;):)!!!

Vamos Paola:)!!!

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:49 PM
Does anyone have Conchita's h2h record against Kimiko. I bet she had a horrendous one.

R&J
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:49 PM
Monica Seles - Mary-Joe Fernandez (15-1)

Mary Jo beat Monica at their first meeting - then it was all Seles after that. They had some good close matches - but Mary Jo never could beat Monica again.

1989 Tennis Grand Prix (Filderstad) Quarterfinal 6-4, 4-6, 7-6 Mary-Joe Fernandez
1990 Virginia Slims of Los Angeles (Manhattan Beach) Semifinal 6-1, 6-0 Monica Seles
1990 Virginia Slims Champs (New York) Semifinal 6-3, 6-4 Monica Seles
1991 Australian Open (Melbourne) Semifinal 6-3, 0-6, 9-7 Monica Seles
1991 Lipton Championships (Key Biscayne) Semifinal 6-1, 6-3 Monica Seles
1991 Virginia Slims of Houston (Houston) Final 6-4, 6-3 Monica Seles
1991 Italian Open (Rome) Semifinal 7-5, 2-6, 6-4 Monica Seles
1991 Nichirei International (Tokyo) Final 6-1, 6-1 Monica Seles
1991 Virginia Slims Champs (New York) Quarterfinal 6-3, 6-2 Monica Seles
1992 Australian Open (Melbourne) Final 6-2, 6-3 Monica Seles
1992 Nokia Grand Prix (Essen) Final 6-0, 6-3 Monica Seles
1992 US Open (New York) Semifinal 6-3, 6-2 Monica Seles
1992 Nichirei International (Tokyo) Semifinal 6-0, 3-6, 6-4 Monica Seles
1993 Virginia Slims of Chicago (Chicago) Semifinal 6-3, 6-0 Monica Seles
1996 Direct Line International (Eastbourne) Final 6-0, 6-2 Monica Seles
1997 Roland Garros (Paris) Quarterfinal 3-6, 6-2, 7-5 Monica Seles

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:52 PM
I guess given those pathetic records against the two, I understand why Mary Joe was never a serious threat for the majors.

Knizzle
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:54 PM
Venus 7-1 over Justine.

irma
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:55 PM
I heard from monica fans on the long lost cnn once that she score of the first match was fake.
well sort of. monica lost a point in the tiebreak or she didn't even lose it and suddenly mary joe got three points instead of 1

Doraemon
Nov 22nd, 2003, 08:55 PM
Alex has a positive h2h against Jenny doesn't she?

Mister B
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:01 PM
Hingis leads Testud 16-0, and leads Seles 15-5...

Declan
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:19 PM
Mary Pierce was/is 6-1 over Sandrine Testud - and all her wins were in straight sets too!

Jo Durie was 4-3 over Steffi Graf (though she was 'lucky' enough to play her a lot in the early years of Steffi's career and when Jo herself was at the peak of her game).

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:20 PM
Look and behold! Even the mighty Steffi Graf has a losing h2h!!

irma
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:22 PM
Look and behold! Even the mighty Steffi Graf has a losing h2h!!

hail to the great and amazing PATTY S! :worship:

Rtael
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:24 PM
Kimiko DATE (JPN) v Conchita MARTINEZ (ESP)

1992 Boca Raton Hard (O) 16 Conchita MARTINEZ 1-6 6-7
1994 Sydney Hard (O) QF Kimiko DATE 6-3 6-0
1994 Australian Open Hard (O) QF Kimiko DATE 6-2 4-6 6-3
1994 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) QF Kimiko DATE 2-6 6-4 7-6
1995 Tokyo Carpet (I) QF Kimiko DATE 0-6 6-2 6-3
1996 Indian Wells Hard (O) SF Conchita MARTINEZ 0-6 4-6
1996 Wimbledon Grass (O) 16 Kimiko DATE 5-7 7-6 6-3
1996 San Diego Hard (O) SF Kimiko DATE 6-2 7-5

Kimiko DATE (JPN) leads 6 : 2

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:25 PM
hail to the great and amazing PATTY S! :worship:

Amen to that! :lol:

Come-on-kim
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:31 PM
Kim never lost a set against Arantxa in 5 or 6 matches

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:39 PM
Two-defensive players, but Kim had far more power. Not surprising.

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:50 PM
anna vs jennifer capriati
1999-04-05 Amelia Island Clay R32 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-3 6-3
2000-01-10 Sydney Hardcourt R16 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-4 7-5
2000-10-09 Zurich Indoor Hardcourt QF Jennifer Capriati (USA) 7-6(4) 6-4
2000-11-13 Chase Championships Indoor Carpet R16 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-4 6-4
Anna Kournikova (RUS) leads 3:1

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:53 PM
jenn vs kuti kis
2000-05-22 Strasbourg Clay R16 Rita Kuti Kis (HUN) 6-1 7-6(3)
2001-05-14 Rome Clay R32 Rita Kuti Kis (HUN) 6-2 3-6 6-4
Rita Kuti Kis (HUN) leads 2:0


jen vs pierce-- always in the rd of 16
1992-05-25 Roland Garros Clay R16 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-4 6-3
1993-05-24 Roland Garros Clay R16 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-4 7-6(6)
2002-05-13 Rome Clay R16 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-0 6-0
2003-10-06 Filderstadt Indoor Hardcourt R16 Mary Pierce (FRA) 6-4 6-2

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:55 PM
justine vs martina-- i thought they never played...
2000-01-17 Australian Open Hardcourt R64 Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-3 6-3
2000-10-02 Filderstadt Indoor Hardcourt R16 Martina Hingis (SUI) 6-3 3-0 ret
Martina Hingis (SUI) leads 2:0

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 09:58 PM
monica's hit list includes daja bedanova, chris evert (lol), linda ferrando (she could come back...), klara koukalova (she's toast next time she plays monica), lucic (i don't think monica will play an occasional quali-- so this may not even happen), and petrova (monica needs to get her doubly...)

those girls better watch themselves...

Kart
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:18 PM
steffi-sabatini
many think sabatini was dominating steffi in head to head

hello 29:11 is a difference of 18 matches. that's dominating;)

Kart :kiss:

:rolls:

:kiss: irma :hearts:

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:20 PM
overall, monica has a winning (or tied) record against 95% of her opponents... serena leads (or ties) 96% of her opponents.

before monica was stabbed, she had only EVER lost to 11 ppl.
capriati, evert, mary joe, ferrando, steffi, martina n, novotna, gabriela, anne smith (lol... in 88), and laura gildemeister.

for serena at 19 (for the sake of some comparison), capriati, davenport, mary joe, steffi, hingis, kruger, likhovtseva, mary pierce, ruano pascual, sanchez-vicario, suarez, irina sprilea, tauziat, testud, and venus. 15 in total... pretty darn good for a "late bloomer". even if she didn't compete much. she now holds a positive head to head against almost all of those players.

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:22 PM
Yep....there ainīt many people who can say they have beaten Serena.

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:24 PM
i can't find these for steffi...

fried_beans
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:24 PM
One funny fact is that every time Monica has played Lindsay, Linds has had match points. Lindsay leads like 10-3

crazillo
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:25 PM
everyone forgets the h2h between novotna and davenport. jana had one match point against lindsay, but never one against her (in singles).

Reichen
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:31 PM
overall, monica has a winning (or tied) record against 95% of her opponents... serena leads (or ties) 96% of her opponents.

before monica was stabbed, she had only EVER lost to 11 ppl.
capriati, evert, mary joe, ferrando, steffi, martina n, novotna, gabriela, anne smith (lol... in 88), and laura gildemeister.

for serena at 19 (for the sake of some comparison), capriati, davenport, mary joe, steffi, hingis, kruger, likhovtseva, mary pierce, ruano pascual, sanchez-vicario, suarez, irina sprilea, tauziat, testud, and venus. 15 in total... pretty darn good for a "late bloomer". even if she didn't compete much. she now holds a positive head to head against almost all of those players.
You forgot Chanda;)...QF at last years JP Morgan

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:33 PM
Odd, how Monica never solved the Lindsay puzzle...since Lindsay is as slow as Monica herself..

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:38 PM
serena was 20 by the time rubin beat her... however-- i forgot SELES. what kind of fan am i??? so that increases serena's total to 16

Kart
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:40 PM
serena was 20 by the time rubin beat her... however-- i forgot SELES. what kind of fan am i??? so that increases serena's total to 16

How could you forget that ? :smash: ;)

Monica :hearts: :worship:

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:43 PM
it is weird that monica couldn't figure lindsay out-- couldn't figure her or martina out. i think lindsay's serve might have something to do with it. but then you think monica has great returns... so i guess the serve was good enough to take monica's return game just enough for lindsay to beat her almost every time. also, lindsay's younger and fresher. their footspeed may be about the same, but lindsay's endurance was better when she was consistently beating her. and it's not like she was ever beating the crap out of monica. they have quite a few tough matches against each other. even lindsay (when they played in la) said that "there are plenty of other people in the top 8 that i would rather play than monica."

faboozadoo15
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:44 PM
lol... kart, don't be so hard on me... it wasn't that i forgot that monica had beaten her, but i forgot that serena was still 19 until VERY LATE 2001. but then i went back and checked. also, i noticed it on my own-- no one had to tell me... whew

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:47 PM
I guess there werenīt THAT many, because it could be only four other players....donīt think Lindsay really liked playing Serena and/or Venus.

bandabou
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:48 PM
But that Monica win was really during a period that Serena COULD NOT close out matches. Unbelievable!

Sam L
Nov 22nd, 2003, 10:56 PM
Wow.....Mary Pierce bt. Hingis 6-0 6-0 at the Canadian Open!

Yes but Hingis has a winning H2H over Mary, so it's not particularly embarassing.

*JR*
Nov 22nd, 2003, 11:56 PM
Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) v Conchita MARTINEZ (ESP)

1992 Sydney Hard (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 6-2
1992 Hilton Head Clay (O) SF Conchita MARTINEZ 4-6 5-7
1992 Barcelona Clay (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 6-2
1992 Olympics-Barcelona Clay (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 6-4
1993 Barcelona Clay (O) FR Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 6-4
1994 French Open Clay (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-3 6-1
1994 Prague Clay (O) FR Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-2 6-7 6-3
1994 Stratton Mountain Hard (O) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 6-4 3-6 4-6
1994 San Diego Hard (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 6-1
1995 Rome Clay (O) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 3-6 1-6
1995 Wimbledon Grass (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-3 6-7 6-1
1996 Tokyo Carpet (I) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 5-7 6-4
1996 Hamburg Clay (O) FR Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 4-6 7-6 6-0
1998 Canadian Open Hard (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-3 6-4
1999 Berlin Clay (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 0-6 7-5
1999 Canadian Open Hard (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 7-6 6-1
2000 Hilton Head Clay (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 7-5 7-5
2000 French Open Clay (O) SF Conchita MARTINEZ 1-6 2-6
2002 Berlin Clay (O) 32 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 6-3

Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) leads 15 : 4


Martina HINGIS (SUI) v Sandrine TESTUD (FRA)

1995 Hamburg Clay (O) 32 Martina HINGIS 6-1 6-2
1995 Canadian Open Hard (O) 64 Martina HINGIS 4-6 6-3 7-6
1998 Key Biscayne Hard (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-3 5-7 6-2
1998 Canadian Open Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 7-6 3-6 6-4
1999 Filderstadt Hard (I) SF Martina HINGIS 6-7 6-2 6-4
1999 W.T.A. Tour Championships Carpet (I) 16 Martina HINGIS 7-6 7-6
2000 Australian Open Hard (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-1 7-6(3)
2000 Tokyo Carpet (I) FR Martina HINGIS 6-3 7-5
2000 Scottsdale Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-4 6-2
2000 Berlin Clay (O) QF Martina HINGIS 7-5 5-7 6-2
2000 Canadian Open Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-4 4-6 6-3
2000 U.S. Open Hard (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-2 6-1
2001 Doha Hard (O) FR Martina HINGIS 6-3 6-2
2001 Dubai Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-3 5-7 6-4
2001 French Open Clay (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-1 2-6 6-2
2002 Sydney Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-4 6-2

Martina HINGIS (SUI) leads 16 : 0 :o


Mary-Joe FERNANDEZ (USA) v Serena WILLIAMS (USA)

1999 French Open Clay (O) 32 Mary-Joe FERNANDEZ 6-3 1-6 6-0

Mary-Joe FERNANDEZ (USA) leads 1 : 0 :eek:

Kart
Nov 22nd, 2003, 11:58 PM
But that Monica win was really during a period that Serena COULD NOT close out matches. Unbelievable!

Stop making excuses. Deal with it please :).

ĪCharlDaĪ
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:06 AM
INteresting to see how MAleeva toughly beat VGenus on carpet, but got killed on hard!

Berlin_Calling
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:06 AM
I think Serenaīs becoming the new Steffi. Does anyone active have a winning h2h against her?!

Paola Suarez vs Serena Williams


2 Amelia I. Apr 16 2000 P Suarez - S Williams(2) 6-3 4-6 5-2

;)

Berlin_Calling
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:13 AM
Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) vs. Conchita Martinez (ESP)
2001-06-25 Wimbledon Grass QF Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) 6-1 6-0
2001-11-10 Fed Cup (WG-SF) BEL vs. ESP Indoor Clay RR Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) 6-3 5-7 7-5
2002-01-07 Sydney Hardcourt R16 Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) 6-0 6-3
2003-10-06 Filderstadt Indoor Hardcourt R16 Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) 6-0 7-6(1)
Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) leads 4:0

3 bagels :eek:

Veritas
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:25 AM
Ai leads 5-4 against Pierce. :D

Kimiko leads 6-2 against Conchita. ;)

oggie
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:35 AM
This one is a bit surprising:
1994-04-04 Amelia Island Clay QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 4-6 6-4 7-6
1994-06-20 Wimbledon Grass QF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-2 6-7 6-3
1994-07-14 Prague Clay SF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-2 6-0
1995-01-16 Australian Open Hardcourt QF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-3 4-6 6-3
1996-01-15 Australian Open Hardcourt R16 Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-3 6-1
1996-01-29 Tokyo Indoor Carpet QF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-2 6-3
1996-05-27 Roland Garros Clay QF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-1 6-3
1997-08-11 Toronto Hardcourt QF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-4 4-6 6-2
1997-11-10 Philadelphia Indoor Carpet R16 Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-3 6-0
1998-01-19 Australian Open Hardcourt SF Conchita Martinez (ESP) 4-6 6-3 6-3
1999-08-09 Los Angeles Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-7(4) 6-3 6-2
2000-03-06 Indian Wells Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-2 6-1
2000-11-06 Philadelphia Indoor Carpet SF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-0 6-1
2000-11-24 Fed Cup (WG-F) ESP vs. USA Indoor Carpet RR Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-1 6-2
2003-05-26 Roland Garros Clay R16 Conchita Martinez (ESP) 6-4 2-0 ret
Conchita Martinez (ESP) leads 9:6

Jericho
Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:46 AM
Venus leads Seles 9-1
venus leads Justine 7-1

pReUrBrIyN
Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:59 AM
Kim leads Chanda 6-0 :eek:

Volcana
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:43 AM
1998 Stanford Hard (O) SF Venus WILLIAMS 6-3 6-4
1999 New Haven Hard (O) SF Venus WILLIAMS 6-1 6-3
2000 San Diego Hard (O) FR Venus WILLIAMS 6-0 6-7 6-3
2000 New Haven Hard (O) FR Venus WILLIAMS 6-2 6-4
2000 Olympicsy Hard (O) SF Venus WILLIAMS 6-1 4-6 6-3
2001 San Diego Hard (O) FR Venus WILLIAMS 6-2 6-3
2002 OZ Hard (O) QF Monica SELES 7-6 2-6 3-6
2002 French Open Clay (O) QF Venus WILLIAMS 6-4 6-3
2002 U.S. Open Hard (O) QF Venus WILLIAMS 6-2 6-3
2002 WTA Champs Hard (I) QF Venus WILLIAMS 7-5 6-4

faboozadoo15
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:59 AM
i like watching monica and venus play. all their 3 setters were incredible matches, and that last one in la was a pretty darn good match. after venus beat monica, i thought she would storm through the rest of the tournament.

switz
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:59 AM
liz smiley also leads steffi in h2h. she goes on about every year when commentating. sometimes she even mentions that steffi retired due to broken finger.

yes patty is the only genuine h2h leader against steffi

Hawk
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:09 AM
Kim leads Chanda 6-0 :eek:

It's actually 7-0 with the win at the YEC :o

Steffi :o :worship: Queen of destroying her opponents :p

Doraemon
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:15 AM
Can anyone plz post the scorelines of all of the Maleevas/Graf matches?

Rtael
Nov 23rd, 2003, 06:00 AM
Steffi GRAF (GER) v Manuela MALEEVA-FRAGNIERE (SUI)

1985 US Open Hard (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-2
1986 Hilton Head Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-4 7-5
1986 Tokyo Indoor Carpet (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-2
1986 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 3-6 6-3 7-5
1987 Hilton Head Clay (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-2 4-6 6-3
1987 Amelia Island Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-0
1987 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-1
1987 Zurich Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-7 6-1
1988 Brighton Carpet (I) FR Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-0
1988 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1990 Tokyo Indoor Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-4
1990 San Diego Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-2
1990 Zurich Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 6-7 6-2 6-3
1990 Worcester Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 6-7 6-3
1991 Key Biscayne Hard (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1993 Canadian Open Hard (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-1
1993 US Open Hard (O) SF Steffi GRAF 4-6 6-1 6-0

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 17 : 0



Steffi GRAF (GER) v Magdalena MALEEVA (BUL)

1991 French Open Clay (O) 128 Steffi GRAF 6-3 7-6(6)
1992 Hamburg Clay (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-3
1992 Olympics-Barcelona Clay (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-4
1992 Leipzig Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-2
1993 Australian Open Hard (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-3
1993 German Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-3
1994 Hamburg Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 7-5 3-6 6-0
1999 French Open Clay (O) 128 Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-0

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 8 : 0




Steffi GRAF (GER) v Katerina MALEEVA (BUL)

1985 Mahwah Hard (O) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-0
1987 Zurich Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-3
1988 San Antonio Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-1
1988 Amelia Island Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-0
1988 Hamburg Clay (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-4 6-2
1988 US Open Hard (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-0
1990 Canadian Open Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-7 6-3
1990 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-0
1991 Hamburg Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-3
1992 Leipzig Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-1
1993 Hamburg Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-1

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 11 : 0

Declan
Nov 23rd, 2003, 06:41 AM
liz smiley also leads steffi in h2h. she goes on about every year when commentating. sometimes she even mentions that steffi retired due to broken finger.

yes patty is the only genuine h2h leader against steffi


But how do you define 'genuine'? If it's playing a player more than once only Jo Durie (4-3) and Wendy Turnbull (2-0) have winning head-to-heads against Steffi. If it's playing just once and winning, as well as Patty and Liz Smylie, there are seven others who did this: Shelley Walpole, Beverly Mould, Nerida Gregory, Barbara Romano, Kate Latham and Corrine Vanier. I'm sure the Steffi die-hards will say catching Steffi early in her career and then never playing again, as these players did, is as valid as playing her in the summer of 1998 when she struggled after her long injury-enforced play-off!!

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 23rd, 2003, 07:25 AM
Smasnhnova-Pistolesi vs Zvonareva is an interesting one ;)

Rub
Nov 23rd, 2003, 07:33 AM
i thought JCap never won against Anna Kournikova!

Farina Elia Fan
Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:00 AM
Lina Krasnoroutskaya VS Silvia Farina Elia 4-0 :mad:

Venus Williams VS Silvia Farina Elia 9-0 :mad:

Mary Pierce VS Silvia Farina Elia 5-1 :mad:

Jana Novotna VS Silvia Farina Elia 5-1 :mad:

Silvia Farina Elia VS Anastasia Myskina 2-0 :eek: :)

Not very good reading!!!!!

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:09 AM
But how do you define 'genuine'? If it's playing a player more than once only Jo Durie (4-3) and Wendy Turnbull (2-0) have winning head-to-heads against Steffi. If it's playing just once and winning, as well as Patty and Liz Smylie, there are seven others who did this: Shelley Walpole, Beverly Mould, Nerida Gregory, Barbara Romano, Kate Latham and Corrine Vanier. I'm sure the Steffi die-hards will say catching Steffi early in her career and then never playing again, as these players did, is as valid as playing her in the summer of 1998 when she struggled after her long injury-enforced play-off!!

a head to head is always genuine except when there are really special circumstances
of course hamburg 93 as prime example

Declan
Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:28 AM
a head to head is always genuine except when there are really special circumstances
of course hamburg 93 as prime example

I agree totally. A win is a win is a win.

Xian
Nov 23rd, 2003, 12:43 PM
Barbara Schwartz AUT vs Monica Seles 1-2
1998 FO Seles wins 61 75
2002: Fed Cup Schwartz wins 76 62
2002: US Open Seles wins 16 76 62

Barbara Schwartz vs Venus Williams 1-0
1999: FO Schwartz wins 26 76 63

Barbara Schwartz vs Steffi Graf 0-1
1999: Ausralian Open Graf wins 46 62 62

Barbara Schwartz vs Elena Dementieva 1-2
2001: Leipzig: Dementieva wins 63 64
2001: Linz: Dementieva wins 60 61
2003: Australian Open: Schwartz wins 57 64 62

Barbara Schwartz vs Chanda Rubin 1-1
2001:Wimbledon: Schwartz wins 67 64 75
2003: Australian Open Rubin wins 63 63

Barbara Schwartz vs Anna Kournikova 0-1
1999: Wimbledon Kournikova wins 76 46 62

Barbara Schwartz vs Conchita Martinez 0-1
1999: Sopot: Martinez wins 62 67 75

Barbara Schwartz vs Amelie Mauresmo 0-5
1999: Bratislava Mauresmo wins 75 62
1999: Linz: Mauresmo wins 36 75 4-1 ret
1996: Australian Open (Juniors) Mauresmo wins 64 36 86
1996: Victoria (Juniors) Mauresmo wins 61 36 76
1996: Paris (Juniors) Mauresmo wins 60 75

Barbara Schwartz vs Barbara Schett 0-1
2002: Vienna: Schett wins 76 64

Barbara Schwartz vs Silvia Farina-Elia 0-2
1998: Auckland: Farina wins 36 63 61
1998: Fed Cup: Farina wins 46 64 97

Barbara Schwartz vs Jelena Dokic 1-0
1999: Fed Cup: Schwartz wins 16 62 63

Barbara Schwartz vs Sandrine Testud 0-1
1999: New Haven Testud wins 64 63

Barbara Schwartz vs Jennifer Capriati 0-1
2000: Australian Open: Capriati wins 62 76

Barbara Schwartz vs Kim Clijsters 0-1
2002: Australian Open: Clijsters wins 61 61

Barbara Schwartz vs Meghann Shaughnessy 2-0
1999: Australian Open : Schwartz wins 62 62
2002: Fed Cup: Schwartz wins 46 76 97

Barbara Schwartz vs Iva Majoli 1-0
2002: Fed Cup: Schwartz wins 62 62

Barbara Schwartz vs Magdalena Maleeva 0-1
2002: Strassbourg: Maleeva wins 64 26 62

Barbara Schwartz vs Amanda Coetzer 1-0
2001: US Open: Schwartz wins 16 64 64

Barbara Schwartz vs Martina Hingis 0-2
1999: French Open: Hingis wins 62 62
1996: Prostejov Challenger: Hingis wins 64 64

Barbara Schwartz vs Dominique van Roost 1-0
1999: French Open: Schwartz wins 61 60

The Guilty
Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:55 PM
Anna Kournikova (RUS) vs. Amanda Coetzer (RSA)

1996-10-14 Zurich Indoor Hardcourt R32 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 2-6 7-6(6) 6-4
1997-01-13 Australian Open Hardcourt R128 Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 6-2 6-2
1997-03-17 Key Biscayne Hardcourt R64 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-1 3-6 6-3
1997-05-05 Rome Clay R32 Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 6-2 4-6 6-1
1997-10-06 Filderstadt Indoor Hardcourt R16 Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 3-6 6-3 6-4
1998-08-24 New Haven Hardcourt R16 Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 1-6 6-4 7-5
1999-02-22 Oklahoma City Indoor Hardcourt SF Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 6-4 6-2
1999-08-02 San Diego Hardcourt R16 Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 6-0 1-6 6-1
2001-10-15 Zurich Indoor Hardcourt R32 Amanda Coetzer (RSA) 6-0 4-6 6-3

Amanda Coetzer (RSA) leads 7:2

Anna Kournikova (RUS) vs. Patty Schnyder (SUI) :devil:

1998-04-06 Amelia Island Clay R16 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-1 6-3
1999-03-29 Hilton Head Clay SF Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-7(5) 6-0 6-3
1999-04-05 Amelia Island Clay QF Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-0 6-2
1999-05-24 Roland Garros Clay R32 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-1 3-6 6-0

Anna Kournikova (RUS) leads 4:0

Anna Kournikova (RUS) vs. Chanda Rubin (USA)

1997-06-23 Wimbledon Grass R128 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-1 6-1
1998-03-02 Indian Wells Hardcourt R32 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 3-6 6-2 7-6(2)
1999-02-22 Oklahoma City Indoor Hardcourt QF Anna Kournikova (RUS) 7-5 0-6 6-3
1999-06-14 Eastbourne Grass R32 Anna Kournikova (RUS) 6-2 4-6 6-4
2000-06-19 Eastbourne Grass QF Chanda Rubin (USA) 7-5 0-6 6-3

Anna Kournikova (RUS) leads 4:1


Anna Kournikova (RUS) vs. Venus Williams (USA) :o

1998-03-16 Key Biscayne Hardcourt F Venus Williams (USA) 2-6 6-4 6-1
1999-05-03 Rome Clay R16 Venus Williams (USA) 6-2 6-2
1999-06-21 Wimbledon Grass R16 Venus Williams (USA) 3-6 6-3 6-2
1999-07-26 Stanford Hardcourt QF Venus Williams (USA) 6-1 6-3
2000-07-24 Stanford Hardcourt SF Venus Williams (USA) 6-4 7-5
2002-02-11 Antwerp Indoor Hardcourt R16 Venus Williams (USA) 7-5 6-0
2002-02-18 Dubai Hardcourt R16 Venus Williams (USA) 6-2 7-6(3)
2002-07-22 Stanford Hardcourt QF Venus Williams (USA) 6-3 6-4

Venus Williams (USA) leads 8:0

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 01:57 PM
Venus sure has been a major road-block for Anna.

MLF
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:23 PM
Going back to the topic title of surprisinhg head to heads :

Nathalie Dechy (FRA) vs. Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP)

1999-06-14 Eastbourne Grass R16 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 7-5 6-2
2001-03-05 Indian Wells Hardcourt R32 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 7-6(9) 3-6 6-2
2002-04-08 Amelia Island Clay R32 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-2 6-2
2002-05-06 Berlin Clay R16 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 7-6(4) 6-3

Nathalie Dechy (FRA) leads 4:0


NATHALIE DECHY (FRA) V MEGHANN SHAUGHNESSY (USA)


1999-03-15 Key Biscayne Hardcourt R64 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 7-6(7) 3-6 6-2
1999-03-29 Hilton Head Clay R64 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-2 6-4
2000-02-28 Scottsdale Hardcourt R16 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-3 4-6 6-1
2000-03-06 Indian Wells Hardcourt R64 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 7-5 7-6(5)
2002-02-25 Scottsdale Hardcourt R16 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 7-5 6-2
2002-05-06 Berlin Clay R32 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-3 2-6 6-3
2002-09-09 Bahia Hardcourt R32 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-4 0-6 6-4
2002-09-30 Moscow Indoor Carpet R16 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-3 6-3
2003-06-16 Eastbourne Grass R32 Nathalie Dechy (FRA) 6-3 6-3


Nathalie Dechy (FRA) leads 9:0

raquel
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:29 PM
Martina HINGIS (SUI) v Sandrine TESTUD (FRA)

1995 Hamburg Clay (O) 32 Martina HINGIS 6-1 6-2
1995 Canadian Open Hard (O) 64 Martina HINGIS 4-6 6-3 7-6
1998 Key Biscayne Hard (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-3 5-7 6-2
1998 Canadian Open Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 7-6 3-6 6-4
1999 Filderstadt Hard (I) SF Martina HINGIS 6-7 6-2 6-4
1999 W.T.A. Tour Championships Carpet (I) 16 Martina HINGIS 7-6 7-6
2000 Australian Open Hard (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-1 7-6(3)
2000 Tokyo Carpet (I) FR Martina HINGIS 6-3 7-5
2000 Scottsdale Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-4 6-2
2000 Berlin Clay (O) QF Martina HINGIS 7-5 5-7 6-2
2000 Canadian Open Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-4 4-6 6-3
2000 U.S. Open Hard (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-2 6-1
2001 Doha Hard (O) FR Martina HINGIS 6-3 6-2
2001 Dubai Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-3 5-7 6-4
2001 French Open Clay (O) 16 Martina HINGIS 6-1 2-6 6-2
2002 Sydney Hard (O) QF Martina HINGIS 6-4 6-2

Martina HINGIS (SUI) leads 16 : 0

Poor Sandrine always came so close to beating Hingis but never won the few points in the match that decided it :sad: I loved watching their matches. The 2000 Berlin one was a match Sandrine should have won. I think she was a set and 5-4 up and they played like a 10 deuce game. I always remember Sandrine's husband in the stands with his head in his hands after Sandrine missed a couple of easy shots at really crucial times.


before monica was stabbed, she had only EVER lost to 11 ppl.
capriati, evert, mary joe, ferrando, steffi, martina n, novotna, gabriela, anne smith (lol... in 88), and laura gildemeister

Monica also lost to Arantxa at the 1992 Canadian Open.

MLF
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:32 PM
Amy Frazier has always been a thorn in big names' sides:

Amy Frazier (USA) vs. Anke Huber (GER)


1993-01-11 Sydney Hardcourt SF Anke Huber (GER) 6-4 6-3
1994-08-08 Los Angeles Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-0 7-5
1997-01-13 Australian Open Hardcourt R128 Anke Huber (GER) 0-6 6-2 7-5
1999-07-26 Stanford Hardcourt R32 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-2 6-4
2000-02-28 Scottsdale Hardcourt R32 Amy Frazier (USA) 7-6(1) 6-2
2000-03-20 Miami Hardcourt R32 Amy Frazier (USA) 5-7 6-4 6-3
2000-07-31 San Diego Hardcourt R32 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-0 7-6(3)
2000-08-14 Montreal Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-4 3-6 6-4

Amy Frazier (USA) leads 6:2



Amy Frazier (USA) vs. Mary Pierce (FRA)

1993-11-08 Philadelphia Indoor Carpet R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 7-6(9) 6-4
1995-08-28 U.S. Open Hardcourt R32 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-3 7-6(6)
1995-09-18 Tokyo Hardcourt QF Mary Pierce (FRA) 6-3 3-6 6-3
1996-08-05 Montreal Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-3 6-3
1997-07-28 San Diego Hardcourt R32 Mary Pierce (FRA) 6-3 6-7(6) 6-3
1999-03-01 Indian Wells Hardcourt R32 Mary Pierce (FRA) 6-0 6-3
2001-04-16 Charleston Clay R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 7-5 6-7(1) 6-4


Amy Frazier (USA) leads 4:3


Amy Frazier (USA) vs. Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP)


1991-01-14 Australian Open Hardcourt R16 Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP) 6-3 6-2
1993-09-20 Tokyo Hardcourt QF Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP) 6-2 6-3
1994-09-19 Tokyo Hardcourt F Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP) 6-1 6-2
1997-01-06 Sydney Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-3 6-3
1997-08-04 Los Angeles Hardcourt QF Amy Frazier (USA) 3-6 6-1 6-3
2000-08-07 Los Angeles Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-3 3-6 6-3
2001-05-28 Roland Garros Clay R64 Amy Frazier (USA) 1-6 6-3 6-4


Amy Frazier (USA) leads 4:3

ghosts
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:34 PM
Maleeva leads 3-2 against Venus and Lindsay ;) :kiss:

MLF
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:38 PM
Mariaan De Swardt was a name Graf and her fans did not like to see near Steffi in a draw. I on the other hand did. :devil:


Mariaan De Swardt (RSA) vs. Steffi Graf (GER)


1992-06-22 Wimbledon Grass R32 Steffi Graf (GER) 5-7 6-0 7-5
1995-10-16 Brighton Indoor Carpet R16 Mariaan De Swardt (RSA) 6-2 4-6 6-1
1999-06-21 Wimbledon Grass R64 Steffi Graf (GER) 4-6 6-3 6-2


Steffi Graf (GER) leads 2:1

raquel
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:38 PM
Amy Frazier (USA) vs. Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP)


1991-01-14 Australian Open Hardcourt R16 Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP) 6-3 6-2
1993-09-20 Tokyo Hardcourt QF Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP) 6-2 6-3
1994-09-19 Tokyo Hardcourt F Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario (ESP) 6-1 6-2
1997-01-06 Sydney Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-3 6-3
1997-08-04 Los Angeles Hardcourt QF Amy Frazier (USA) 3-6 6-1 6-3
2000-08-07 Los Angeles Hardcourt R16 Amy Frazier (USA) 6-3 3-6 6-3
2001-05-28 Roland Garros Clay R64 Amy Frazier (USA) 1-6 6-3 6-4


Amy Frazier (USA) leads 4:3
That 2001 Roland Garros match had the most unforced errors I have ever seen from Arantxa. She breezed the first set, by the third set the both of them were just hitting so many errors. I could not believe I was watching ASV hitting errors like she hit that day, it was so unlike her.

raquel
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:45 PM
Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) v Conchita MARTINEZ (ESP)

1992 Sydney Hard (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 6-2
1992 Hilton Head Clay (O) SF Conchita MARTINEZ 4-6 5-7
1992 Barcelona Clay (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 6-2
1992 Olympics-Barcelona Clay (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 6-4
1993 Barcelona Clay (O) FR Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 6-4
1994 French Open Clay (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-3 6-1
1994 Prague Clay (O) FR Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-2 6-7 6-3
1994 Stratton Mountain Hard (O) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 6-4 3-6 4-6
1994 San Diego Hard (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 6-1
1995 Rome Clay (O) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 3-6 1-6
1995 Wimbledon Grass (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-3 6-7 6-1
1996 Tokyo Carpet (I) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-4 5-7 6-4
1996 Hamburg Clay (O) FR Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 4-6 7-6 6-0
1998 Canadian Open Hard (O) QF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-3 6-4
1999 Berlin Clay (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 0-6 7-5
1999 Canadian Open Hard (O) 16 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 7-6 6-1
2000 Hilton Head Clay (O) SF Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 7-5 7-5
2000 French Open Clay (O) SF Conchita MARTINEZ 1-6 2-6
2002 Berlin Clay (O) 32 Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO 6-1 6-3

Arantxa SANCHEZ-VICARIO (ESP) leads 15 : 4



I was always surprised this head to head was not closer. They played some great matches. The 1995 Rome Final, Conchita just totally outplayed ASV. I thought Conchita should have won the French that year, she was playing so well. Arantxa always won the close ones. The 1999 Berlin match, Conchita was 5-3 up in the third I think. The 1996 Hamburg match, Conchita was a set and 5-2 up. The 2000 French Open match was a surprise. ASV had just beaten Venus the round before, and then against Conchita played a really impatient match. ASV did nothing right that day. I think ASV had a mental hold over Conchita, because Conchita could have won a few of these matches she lost.

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 02:55 PM
Steffi GRAF (GER) v Conchita MARTINEZ (ESP)

1989 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-4
1990 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1990 Leipzig Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 7-6
1991 US Open Hard (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1991 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-3
1992 Boca Raton Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 3-6 6-2 6-0
1992 Philadelphia Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-1
1993 Wimbledon Grass (O) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 6-3
1993 San Diego Hard (O) SF Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-2
1993 Philadelphia Carpet (I) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 3-6 3-6
1995 Delray Beach Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-4
1995 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-7(5) 6-3
1996 Indian Wells Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 7-6 7-6
1996 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-1

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 13 : 1


just wanted to point out why conchita m didn't and shouldn't have won the french open in 95;)

MLF
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:12 PM
Conchita's 1995 clay season showed she had all the results to be in with a chance for the RG title. In her semi with Graf neither played well and both had opportunities to win that match but yet again Steffi won the mental battle as she has done with so many good opponents over the years. She was too damn stubborn throughout her career :mad: ;) Anyway, I like this head to head:

Mirjana Lucic (CRO) vs. Nathalie Tauziat (FRA

1997-05-19 Strasbourg Clay R16 Mirjana Lucic (CRO) 6-1 3-6 7-5
1999-06-21 Wimbledon Grass QF Mirjana Lucic (CRO) 4-6 6-4 7-5


Mirjana Lucic (CRO) leads 2:0

raquel
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:17 PM
just wanted to point out why conchita m didn't and shouldn't have won the french open in 95;)
I should have said Conchita could have won the 1995 French Open. She was beaten by the better player on the day. I just think in 1995 Conchita came into Roland Garros in her best form going into a GS. Of course, Steffi deserved her win. Gotta love Steffi :mad:

Actually now I can look back and see Steffi for how great she was :worship: but when she kept beating ASV 1995-1996 in GS finals :fiery: I did not like Steffi!

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:17 PM
Steffi GRAF (GER) v Conchita MARTINEZ (ESP)

1989 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-4
1990 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1990 Leipzig Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 7-6
1991 US Open Hard (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1991 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-3
1992 Boca Raton Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 3-6 6-2 6-0
1992 Philadelphia Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-1
1993 Wimbledon Grass (O) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 6-3
1993 San Diego Hard (O) SF Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-2
1993 Philadelphia Carpet (I) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 3-6 3-6
1995 Delray Beach Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-4
1995 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-7(5) 6-3
1996 Indian Wells Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 7-6 7-6
1996 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-1

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 13 : 1


just wanted to point out why conchita m didn't and shouldn't have won the french open in 95;)

:haha: :lol: Girl, youīre bad! Now those are some serious whuppings!

propi
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:22 PM
Steffi GRAF (GER) v Conchita MARTINEZ (ESP)

1989 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-4
1990 French Open Clay (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1990 Leipzig Carpet (I) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 7-6
1991 US Open Hard (O) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-3
1991 Virginia Slims Championships Carpet (I) 16 Steffi GRAF 6-0 6-3
1992 Boca Raton Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 3-6 6-2 6-0
1992 Philadelphia Carpet (I) QF Steffi GRAF 6-1 6-1
1993 Wimbledon Grass (O) SF Steffi GRAF 7-6 6-3
1993 San Diego Hard (O) SF Steffi GRAF 7-5 6-2
1993 Philadelphia Carpet (I) FR Conchita MARTINEZ 3-6 3-6
1995 Delray Beach Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 6-2 6-4
1995 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-7(5) 6-3
1996 Indian Wells Hard (O) FR Steffi GRAF 7-6 7-6
1996 French Open Clay (O) SF Steffi GRAF 6-3 6-1

Steffi GRAF (GER) leads 13 : 1


just wanted to point out why conchita m didn't and shouldn't have won the french open in 95;)
The RG match was really sad for me, that clay season was excelent for Conchi, that was the year when she reached semis in all GS :sad:
The Indian Wells final was sad and :mad: I remember Conchi being up in both ties with mini breaks :mad:

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:27 PM
steffi should not have made it a mental battle in the first place, if it had been novotna everybody had agreed;)

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:30 PM
Conchita was the form player in 1995 coming into the French.

Steffi hadn't played much that year from what I remember and was seeded no.2 behind ASV.

Conchita had even beaten ASV in the Rome final (convincingly) and when she started the tournament didn't even drop a game until her second round match.

Still, she didn't play well at all in the first set and by then, even though she rallied for the second, you kind of got the feeling she was only delaying the inevitable.

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:31 PM
I should have said Conchita could have won the 1995 French Open. She was beaten by the better player on the day. I just think in 1995 Conchita came into Roland Garros in her best form going into a GS. Of course, Steffi deserved her win. Gotta love Steffi :mad:

Actually now I can look back and see Steffi for how great she was :worship: but when she kept beating ASV 1995-1996 in GS finals :fiery: I did not like Steffi!

I understand I felt the same about a certain player at the start of 91 but then steffi won the slam final anyway :devil:

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:31 PM
I had to support Steffi in that match seeing what she had done in the previous round :mad:.

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:41 PM
It's still amazing what happened with steffi from 94/95 though
yeah people will always say monica this and monica but monica was already out for 1,5 year so still

steffi in 94 looked depressed and said things in the pc's like"I don't know were home is" then she took two breaks (she was still depressed when she came back at the masters, then the above comment was) and she was just a different person, much more happier and relaxed on court

maybe she felt she had nothing to lose anymore with her back being semi ruined
The media also wrote she had troubles on the love front in 94 and maybe she worked that out through the break since in 95 Michael B was still there;) (he was so cute :hearts: )

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:42 PM
I had to support Steffi in that match seeing what she had done in the previous round :mad:.

:devil:

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:46 PM
I understand I felt the same about a certain player at the start of 91 but then steffi won the slam final anyway :devil:

Which was that?! Only Wimbledon could it have been...because Monica won the other three slams.

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:48 PM
Which was that?! Only Wimbledon could it have been...because Monica won the other three slams.

Don't ask that question :smash:.

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:48 PM
:devil:

:explode:

;)

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:50 PM
Don't ask that question :smash:.

My bad...but she said at beginning of the year. Thatīs why I asked.

faboozadoo15
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:52 PM
hmmm well i'd take "monica this, monica that" over your non stop drabble about how steffi was depressed in the early 90's...

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:53 PM
I'll let you off this time bandabou.

Just remember that any mention of Steffi + 1991 = Kart + :timebomb:

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:53 PM
I was not talking about slams, just about when somebody dominates your fav!

and 5:0 is dominating especially when it happened in a time span of 6 months (with a two month season break in between) :sad:

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:56 PM
Hahahaha....oooh THAT domination! I didnīt know about THAT domination. But Kart, you got your revenge in ī94. A bit TOO late, but still...

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:57 PM
hmmm well i'd take "monica this, monica that" over your non stop drabble about how steffi was depressed in the early 90's...

If any other player had bounced back the way steffi did from 94/95 they had gotten credit too ,with monica still being out.
that's my only point

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 03:59 PM
irma :hearts: I didn't know you thought Michael B was cute ... are you into Andre as well ? :p

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:01 PM
I was more when I was 13;)

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:01 PM
BTW bandabou, what happened in 1994 ?

Are you talking about the rightful owner of the YEC reclaiming her crown ?

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:03 PM
I was more when I was 13;)

Don't tell me, it was the long hair wasn't it ? :p

irma
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:04 PM
no the sexy bike trousers :devil:

Kart
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:05 PM
:eek: :speakles: ;)

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 04:05 PM
You know what Iīm saying, Kart! :lol:

Leo_DFP
Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:01 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but Nathalie Tauziat never won a set from Graf in 21 matches. That has to be the worst. :o

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:16 PM
Man! Thatīs BAD!

faboozadoo15
Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:27 PM
that IS miserable... too bad for nathalie that it wasn't any better against seles.

Monica Seles - Nathalie Tauziat 10 - 0
2000 New Haven HF S 2:6 6:2 6:1
1998 Los Angeles VF S 6:4 6:4
1997 French Open L32 S 6:0 6:1
1996 Eastbourne HF S 6:4 6:4
1995 Toronto AF S 6:2 6:2
1993 Australian Open AF S 6:2 6:0
1992 Masters AF S 6:1 6:2
1992 Wimbledon VF S 6:1 6:3
1991 San Diego HF S 6:1 6:2
1990 Key Biscane HF S 6:3 6:1

damn new haven 2000... lol

i think anke huber could relate to nathalie (i can't find her record against graf-- maybe it's better).

Monica Seles - Anke Huber 9 - 0
1998 Montreal VF S 6:3 6:4
1997 Toronto FINALE S 6:2 6:4
1997 Hilton Head VF S 6:3 6:0
1996 Australian Open FINALE S 6:4 6:1
1995 US Open AF S 6:1 6:4
1995 Toronto VF S 6:3 6:2
1992 Oakland HF S 6:2 6:3
1992 Australian Open VF S 7:5 6:3
1991 Australian Open VF S 6:3 6:1

SJW
Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:44 PM
I was more when I was 13;)

i used to fancy Andre too

it was the earring :o

miranda_lou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 05:53 PM
I never cared that much for Andre until he "grew up" and went bald. :angel:

I always hated those ugly biker pants and that messy hair. I remember when he won Wimbledon in 1992 and I saw that picture of him with my fav Steffi, I cut him off and framed her. :devil:

Now, of course, I love the guy. :lol:

M&M
Nov 23rd, 2003, 06:00 PM
magdalena grzybowska vs. venus williams 1:0 :)
magdalena grzybowska vs. jenny capriati 2:0 :)


selima valentine vs. larisa ferrer 8:5 ;)

raquel
Nov 23rd, 2003, 06:01 PM
i used to fancy Andre too

it was the earring :o
Me too! He was really nice back then!
http://62.232.35.140/files_tennis/AGASSI_Andre_1992_NF_R.jpg

I actually think he is still quite sexy now!
http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10051000/10051889.jpg

SJW
Nov 23rd, 2003, 06:13 PM
OMG how could i fancy him looking like that?! :haha:

he's cute now though :) i don't fancy him

Brαm
Nov 23rd, 2003, 08:34 PM
Dominique Van Roost (BEL) vs. Sabine Appelmans (BEL) 7-0

1993-10-11 Montpellier Indoor Carpet SF Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 2-6 6-4 6-3
1995-03-13 Key Biscayne Hardcourt R64 Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 6-3 6-2
1996-06-17 Rosmalen Grass R16 Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 6-4 6-2
1998-02-23 Linz Indoor Carpet QF Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 6-3 7-5
1998-06-22 Wimbledon Grass R32 Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 6-1 6-2
1999-05-03 Rome Clay R32 Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 6-4 6-7(2) 6-3
1999-06-14 's-Hertogenbosch Grass R16 Dominique Van Roost (BEL) 6-4 6-4

Diya
Nov 23rd, 2003, 08:36 PM
Monica v/s the spaniards :o

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 08:38 PM
Odd, how comteporary Belgians always end up being dominated by another.

Brαm
Nov 23rd, 2003, 08:38 PM
Serena vs Kim 9-1. Some were close, but still...

I think it's 7-1 actually :shrug:

Brαm
Nov 23rd, 2003, 08:41 PM
Odd, how comteporary Belgians always end up being dominated by another.
Who are you referring to? :confused:

MLF
Nov 23rd, 2003, 08:49 PM
Anke Huber was more competitive with Graf than Seles, but only just. She never really came close to beating Graf either.

Steffi Graf (GER) vs. Anke Huber (GER)

1991-01-28 Tokyo Indoor Carpet R16 Steffi Graf (GER) 6-2 6-3
1991-03-04 Boca Raton Hardcourt R16 Steffi Graf (GER) 6-0 6-1
1992-04-27 Hamburg Clay SF Steffi Graf (GER) 6-3 6-0
1992-10-19 Brighton Indoor Carpet SF Steffi Graf (GER) 7-5 6-2
1993-03-01 Delray Beach Hardcourt SF Steffi Graf (GER) 6-1 6-1
1993-05-24 Roland Garros Clay SF Steffi Graf (GER) 6-1 6-1
1993-11-15 Virginia Slims Championships Indoor Carpet SF Steffi Graf (GER) 6-2 3-6 6-3
1995-03-06 Delray Beach Hardcourt SF Steffi Graf (GER) 6-4 6-4
1995-05-29 Roland Garros Clay R16 Steffi Graf (GER) 6-4 7-5
1995-11-13 WTA Tour Championships Indoor Carpet F Steffi Graf (GER) 6-1 2-6 6-1 4-6 6-3


Steffi Graf (GER) leads 10:0

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 09:14 PM
Bram, I meant like Dominique dominated Sabine and Kim kinda dominated Justine, but Justine won the big matches.

Knizzle
Nov 23rd, 2003, 10:44 PM
I think it's 7-1 actually :shrug:

8-1 ;)

bandabou
Nov 23rd, 2003, 10:57 PM
Thanks Knizz....I knew they had already played more than 8 matches, but I didnīt know if it was before or after the YECī02.

skanky~skanketta
Nov 24th, 2003, 12:48 AM
ANDRE!:hearts:

Rothes
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:32 AM
hail to the great and amazing PATTY S! :worship:


HHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPP SSSSSSSSSSSCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWIIIIIIIZZZZZZZ

skanky~skanketta
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:46 AM
rothes!relax!LOL!

Rothes
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:10 AM
rothes!relax!LOL!

How can I when she is potentionally the greatest player since sliced bread

Knizzle
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:19 AM
How can I when she is potentionally the greatest player since sliced bread

Sliced bread played tennis?? I didn't know that.

:worship: Sliced bread:worship:


:D

Brαm
Nov 24th, 2003, 04:50 PM
Bram, I meant like Dominique dominated Sabine and Kim kinda dominated Justine, but Justine won the big matches.


Kim vs. Justine 9-6

You call that domination? :confused:
I think it's a fair rivalry :yeah:

Linzi
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:10 PM
Hmmm Andre has a nice body! Cute as well!

Cybelle Darkholme
Nov 24th, 2003, 05:30 PM
True, but Arantxa chose the right time to call it a career!
She will go down as one of the very few pleyars who had a positive h2h record against Serena! Way to go, Arantxa!

Do you really think thats why asv decided to retire? Please excercise some common sense.

Valda Lake
Nov 24th, 2003, 07:26 PM
I think Maggie is 9-1 over Chanda and the only loss coming from an injury retirement. For two players with similar careers I find that to be quite a domination. I hope they play in 2004! :)

Valda Lake
Nov 24th, 2003, 07:58 PM
Hmm...I just checked the ITF and they say 7-2 (1 retirement and 1 walkover win for Chanda). I remember recently speaking to Brian about this and I could have sworn it was 9-1. In any case...it is surprising. :)

Valda Lake
Nov 25th, 2003, 05:16 AM
I wonder though...Has Maggie always been the higher seed (except for this past Fall)?

Doraemon
Nov 25th, 2003, 05:22 AM
Do you really think thats why asv decided to retire? Please excercise some common sense.

I can't believe anyone took it offensive.
You better have some common sense about jokes.