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Vicky88
Nov 18th, 2003, 08:29 PM
Now I know that one of you must be keeping track of who has earnt what points for the AO wildcard from this challenger series. So has Trudi got it locked up, and if not who can beat her and what do they have to do?

PS I really appreciate the effort that some of you go to in providing points etc. Shows how in-depth your coverage and knowledge of the Aussie girls is.

broncosven
Nov 18th, 2003, 08:42 PM
i dont have the indepth but trudi would need to lose both the following tournments really early and either casey comes back and wins and gets in final/semis and brianne/monique wins both

im pretty sure there is no way that trudi cant get the wildcard now . . although having points would be nice to show it more easier :-)

AUSBOY
Nov 19th, 2003, 02:50 AM
Monique Adamczak, Evie Dominikovic and Bryanne Stewart are all still in the hunt, its not Trudi's yet, but its gonna take an impressive last two tournament results from the other three to snatch it from her!

Vicky88
Nov 19th, 2003, 04:20 AM
I'm surprised to hear that Monique Adamczak, Evie Dominikovic and Bryanne Stewart are all still in the hunt. Truthfully I can remember any of these 3 doing anything startling the past couple of months so that makes me even more surprised.

I thought Trudi had it wrapped up becuase she won last week and was she r/u in one other. Maybe her mistake was playing that tourney in Thailand instead of the final challenger in Qld.

I was thinking that Casey would have been the only other challenger if she had not withdrawn from the SA tourneys.

Does anyone know how they award the points?

azza
Nov 19th, 2003, 04:28 AM
I THINK im jus guessing :p

1st round loss - 0 Pts
2nd round loss - 1 Pt
Q/F Loss - 2 Pts
S/F Loss - 3 Pts
Final Loss - 4 Pts
Final Win - 5 Pts

:shrug:

Mateo Mathieu
Nov 19th, 2003, 05:10 AM
I THINK im jus guessing :p

1st round loss - 0 Pts
2nd round loss - 1 Pt
Q/F Loss - 2 Pts
S/F Loss - 3 Pts
Final Loss - 4 Pts
Final Win - 5 Pts

:shrug:
Then do it yourself ;)

azza
Nov 19th, 2003, 05:12 AM
If that was the case then..

After Week 1

Trudi Musgrave 4
Bryanne Stewart 3
Monique Adamczak 3
Nicole Kriz 2
Evie Dominikovic 1
Jaslyn Hewitt 1
Cindy Watson 1
Kirsten Van Elden 1
Gabby Baker 0
Christina Horiatopolou 0
Rachel Mcquillian 0
Lara Picone 0
Lisa Mcshea 0
Lauren Breadmore 0
Casey Dellacqua 0
Lauren Cheung 0
Mireille Dittman 0
Beti Sekulovski 0
Samantha Stosur 0


After Week 2

Monique Adamczak 5
Trudi Musgrave 4
Bryanne Stewart 4
Nicole Kriz 3
Evie Dominikovic 2
Jaslyn Hewitt 1
Cindy Watson 1
Kirsten Van Elden 1
Mireille Dittman 1
Gabby Baker 0
Christina Horiatopolou 0
Rachel Mcquillian 0
Lara Picone 0
Lisa Mcshea 0
Lauren Breadmore 0
Casey Dellacqua 0
Lauren Cheung 0
Beti Sekulovski 0
Samantha Stosur 0
Dubravka Cupac 0
Kate Pinchbeck 0
Emily Hewson 0


After Week 3

Bryanne Stewart 6
Monique Adamczak 5
Trudi Musgrave 5
Casey Dellacqua 5
Nicole Kriz 3
Evie Dominikovic 3
Jaslyn Hewitt 2
Mireille Dittman 2
Samantha Stosur 2
Cindy Watson 1
Kirsten Van Elden 1
Rachel Mcquillian 1
Lauren Breadmore 1
Beti Sekulovski 1
Gabby Baker 0
Christina Horiatopolou 0
Lara Picone 0
Lisa Mcshea 0
Lauren Cheung 0
Dubravka Cupac 0
Kate Pinchbeck 0
Emily Hewson 0
Natalie Tanevska 0
Lara Giltinan 0
Sophie Ferguson 0


After Week 4


Trudi Musgrave 10
Bryanne Stewart 7
Casey Dellacqua 6
Monique Adamczak 5
Evie Dominikovic 4
Jaslyn Hewitt 4
Nicole Kriz 3
Mireille Dittman 3
Samantha Stosur 3
Cindy Watson 1
Kirsten Van Elden 1
Rachel Mcquillian 1
Lauren Breadmore 1
Beti Sekulovski 1
Gabby Baker 0
Christina Horiatopolou 0
Lara Picone 0
Lisa Mcshea 0
Lauren Cheung 0
Dubravka Cupac 0
Kate Pinchbeck 0
Emily Hewson 0
Natalie Tanevska 0
Lara Giltinan 0
Sophie Ferguson 0
Christina Wheeler 0

AUSBOY
Nov 19th, 2003, 06:00 AM
Im pretty sure they use the old 'round' point previously used by the ITF for $25K's

1st round - 1 Point
2nd round - 3 Points
Q/Finalist - 6 Points
S/Finalist - 10 Points
Runner Up - 15 Points
Winner - 21 Points

This given the case there are 7 other Aussies possible of still winning the wildcard. Although the chances are remote however still feasible.

Points Ladder

Trudi Musgrave - R/U, 1st, 2nd, W = 40 points
Bryanne Stewart - Q/F, 2nd, Q/F, 2nd = 18 points
Monique Adamczak - S/F, Q/F, 1st, 1st = 18 points
Evie Dominikovic - 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd = 12 points
Mireille Dittmann - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd = 10 points
Lauren Breadmore - 1st, 1st, 2nd, 1st = 6 points
Cindy Watson - 2nd, 1st, DNQ, DNQ = 4 points
Christina Wheeler - DNP, DNP, DNP, 1st = 1 point

For Wheeler to get it she would have to win Nurioopta and Mt Gambier and have Trudi Lose 1st round in both events. Then Wheeler would have 43 points and Trudi 42! Watson/Breadmore would have to win both as well with Trudi losing in a 1st round of one event and 2nd round at best in the remaining challenger. A final and a win for Mireille and Evie would get them across the line if Trudi did no better than a 2nd round and a Q/F in her final two events. A S/F and R/U finish in the final two might be all Monique and Bryanne need as well if Trudi loses both 1st rounds.

All in all its unlikely that Trudi won't get the wildcard. Probably Evie has the best chance to knock her off if she can get her head into gear!

AUSBOY
Nov 19th, 2003, 12:39 PM
Ok Lauren and Cindy both lost

As did Trudi!

Points update up to Round 2

Trudi Musgrave - R/U, 1st, 2nd, W, 1st = 41 points
Bryanne Stewart - Q/F, 2nd, Q/F, 2nd, 2nd* = 21 points
Monique Adamczak - S/F, Q/F, 1st, 1st, 2nd* = 21 points
Evie Dominikovic - 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd* = 15 points
Mireille Dittmann - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd* = 13 points
Christina Wheeler - DNP, DNP, DNP, 1st, 2nd* = 4 point

Vicky88
Nov 19th, 2003, 03:11 PM
Great analysis Ausboy. Shows us clearly who has what. With Trudi losing first round, there is a real opportunity for some of the others to sneak in.

AUSBOY
Nov 20th, 2003, 08:17 PM
And then there were 3!

Points update up to Quarter Finals

Trudi Musgrave - R/U, 1st, 2nd, W, 1st = 41 points
Bryanne Stewart - Q/F, 2nd, Q/F, 2nd, Q/F* = 24 points
Monique Adamczak - S/F, Q/F, 1st, 1st, Q/F* = 24 points


Even if Monique and Bryanne lose their Q/F they are still in the running next week but would have to win Mount Gambier!

azza
Nov 21st, 2003, 04:11 AM
Go Monique :banana:

Randy H
Nov 21st, 2003, 04:24 AM
Hang in there Trudi ;)

louloubelle
Nov 21st, 2003, 04:49 AM
And then there were 3!

Points update up to Quarter Finals

Trudi Musgrave - R/U, 1st, 2nd, W, 1st = 41 points
Bryanne Stewart - Q/F, 2nd, Q/F, 2nd, Q/F* = 24 points
Monique Adamczak - S/F, Q/F, 1st, 1st, Q/F* = 24 points


Even if Monique and Bryanne lose their Q/F they are still in the running next week but would have to win Mount Gambier!

What would happen if there's a tie????

Vicky88
Nov 21st, 2003, 05:43 AM
Thanks Ausboy for the update.

If there was to be a tie to me the fairest way would be to award wildcards to both players concerned. Let's face it, no-one else has done enough to deserve it.

I'll bet both Sam and Evie will get WC's but their performances during this set of challengers have been somewhat lacking.

AUSBOY
Nov 21st, 2003, 10:48 PM
If there is a tie they look at who won the most titles. If that is tied then they look at quality points!

azza
Nov 21st, 2003, 10:58 PM
and if thats tied :p

Vicky88
Nov 21st, 2003, 11:07 PM
Ausboy just want to say again that I appreciate the knowledge you have of the system and your generosity in sharing it with us.

louloubelle
Nov 23rd, 2003, 11:44 PM
Ausboy just want to say again that I appreciate the knowledge you have of the system and your generosity in sharing it with us.

Yes, I appreciate your work too :)

Vicky88
Nov 25th, 2003, 09:30 PM
Then there were two. Monique lost first round at Mt Gambier so she is out of the running.

Trudi has a tough first round against Lenhoff who won last week, but interestingly enough, she and Bryanne are in the same quarter of the draw.

TS
Nov 26th, 2003, 05:06 AM
I appreciate it too :D

I'll be stunned if Bryanne wins this thing...but good luck to her anyway. She's shown that it would be criminal if she is overlooked for a qualifying WC at the AO, as I'm sure she could take a few scalps. I don't think (based on these QF performances) that she deserves a MD WC however...

AUSBOY
Nov 26th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Tennis Australia finally updated the points system for calculating the Aust Open to the current ITF round points.

At the moment the current top 15 standings are as follows:

1.) Trudi Musgrave 48.5
2.) Casey Dellacqua 30.5
3.) Bryanne Stewart 29
4.) Monique Adamczak 28.5
5.) Evie Dominikovic 21*
6.) Samatha Stosur 17*
7.) Mireille Dittmann 16
8.) Jaslyn Hewitt 15
9.) Lauren Breadmore 8.5
10.) Cindy Watson 6.5
11.) Lisa McShea 6
=12.) Sophie Ferguson*/Rachel McQuillan 5.5
=14.) Kristen Van Elden/Beti Sekulowski 4.5

* = Still alive in Singles Main Draw at Mount Gambier

Randy H
Nov 26th, 2003, 12:01 PM
thanks for posting that :)

with the full 1st round results the only ones left are Evie and Samantha - Is there any way they can catch Trudi now if they were to win Mount Gambier?

TS
Nov 26th, 2003, 12:47 PM
Randy - I highly doubt it. In fact I'd say it's impossible...it's all Trudi's :)

Trudi got a title and a R/U check....if Evie gets a title, she still has 5 other 2nd round losses so I can't see how that can add up to Trudi's total. Pretty much the same with Samantha, except she has a couple 1st round losses.

Randy H
Nov 26th, 2003, 02:14 PM
Excellent :)

I am so happy for Trudi, it's a shame she couldn't pick up a few more points in the last 2 legs of the Aussie challenger circuit but she got some very tough first rounds so I am glad that she has still managed to stay on top of the race :) I always think it is nice to see the veterans (especially veterans better known for their doubles) come through with some strong singles results and show what they are capable of. :)

broncosven
Nov 26th, 2003, 09:24 PM
Wow

Go trudi

Both Trudi, Brianne and Monique all lost first round (not what u want by AO WC recipent) but it guarentees here the WC

Well Done

Aussie_Kim
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:35 AM
Well done Trudi and
Thanks to AUSBOY for all the updates

Vicky88
Nov 27th, 2003, 05:38 PM
Congratulations Trudi, you deserve this wildcard as you have done better than anyone else this series of Challengers. Hopefully it will result in a win in at least the first round of AO and will be the start of a great season for you.

Ausboy, just want to add my thanks for keeping us up to date with what the points tally is.

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 4th, 2003, 09:39 PM
well done Trudi for getting her WC :kiss:

Heard that Tennis AUS wont be reknewing the deal with the LTA, so no Brit WC for Melbourne.
so thats 6 WC for AUS, plus 1 Asian and one French.

dubro
Dec 6th, 2003, 02:00 PM
well done trudi :)

so, do u think no chances for dubravka?' :sobbing:

azza
Dec 7th, 2003, 09:34 PM
Nope sorry Dubz :sad: