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SpikeyAidanm
Oct 29th, 2003, 08:04 AM
PICK-A-WINNER #93 – - LOS ANGELES (TOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS 2003)

~ PAW Year-End Championships featuring the top 16 PAW players of 2003~

Defending Champ:
WTA Handicapper

2003 Champion: butch

Welcome to Pick-A-Winner (PAW), the Predictions game!

Playing is simple: over the course of the tournament choose any 7 matches in the Main Draw and post who you think will win them.

To play this tournament, you must be ranked within the top 16 committed players in the PAW race after Philadelphia/Quebec City conclude. See the PAW Race standings in this thread. -http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=90896

You also must have posted a commitment.The deadline for commitments is November 2nd.

Post commitments in this thread - http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=85999&page=1&pp=40

Remember also to post your 2004 PAW commitments for January and February in the 2004 PAW commitment thread located in the PAW forum

PAW Player List

Seeds:

1 - Wojtek (POL)..................#1
2 – SpikeyAidanm (AUS)............#2
3 – sandg (INA)...................#3
4 – speedster_ (INA)..............#5
5 – petosp (VEN)..................#6
6 – danielrosario (IND)...........#7
7 – Jakub (POL)...................#8
8 – bbypk (ESP)...................#9

Others:

9 – WTA Handicapper (GBR).........#10
10 – Grice (SIN)..................#11
11 – Pintaled (AUS)...............#12
12 – Rtael (CRO)..................#13
13 – butch (RSA)..................#14
14 – Buitenzorg (AUS).............#15
15 – bionic71 (AUS)...............#16
16 – K&J fan (BEL)................#17

FINAL League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003

#. Player..............P..W..L.Pts
1. butch...............7..5..2..44
2. SpikeyAidanm (2)....7..5..2..43
3. petosp (5)..........7..4..3..39
4. Buitenzorg..........7..4..3..36
.. bbypk (8)...........7..4..3..36
6. Wojtek (1)..........7..4..3..35
.. Jakub (7)...........7..5..2..35
.. Grice...............7..4..3..35
9. bionic71............7..4..3..34
10.danielrosario (6)...7..4..3..32
11.Pintaled............7..3..4..27
.. speedster_ (4)......7..3..4..27
13.Rtael...............7..3..4..26
14.sandg (3)...........7..3..4..25
15.WTA Handicapper.....7..3..4..24
16.K&J fan.............7..1..6..12

Fixtures and Scoring Points

Final

K.Clijsters (1) vs A.Mauresmo (3)........(7-14)

Semi-Finals

K.Clijsters (1) vs J.Capriati (4)........(7-13)
A.Mauresmo (3) vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)...(12-8)

Red Group ~ Round Robin Matches

K.Clijsters (1) vs C.Rubin...............(6-16)
E.Dementieva vs A.Mauresmo (3)...........(10-10)
K.Clijsters (1) vs E.Dementieva..........(7-15)

C.Rubin vs A.Mauresmo (3)................(11-9)
E.Dementieva vs C.Rubin..................(10-11)
A.Mauresmo (3) vs K.Clijsters (1)........(14-7)

Black Group ~ Round Robin Matches

J.Henin-Hardenne (2) vs A.Sugiyama.......(7-15)
A.Myskina vs J.Capriati (4)..............(12-9)
J.Henin-Hardenne (2) vs A.Myskina........(8-13)

A.Sugiyama vs J.Capriati (4).............(13-7)
A.Myskina vs A.Sugiyama..................(9-11)
J.Capriati (4) vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)...(12-9)

Remember, the Scoring Points beside each fixture represent the points you score if the corresponding player wins.

Don't forget, you're limited to 7 picks throughout the whole tournament.

Good luck!

Ranking Points for Los Angeles (Tour Champs)

1st --- 485 ...... 5th --- 159 ..... 9th --- 37 ..... 13th -- 37
2nd --- 340 ...... 6th --- 131 ..... 10th -- 37 ..... 14th -- 37
3rd --- 252 ...... 7th --- 104 ..... 11th -- 37 ..... 15th -- 37
4th --- 197 ...... 8th ---- 77 ..... 12th -- 37 ..... 16th -- 37

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PAW Rankings - Please click here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=79799&page=1)

PAW LA Champs Betting Odds - Please click here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=92854)

PAW LA Champs Exclusive Preview - Please click here (http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?t=92735)



Cheers for now,
SpikeyAidanm :wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 29th, 2003, 08:07 AM
Qualified PAW Players
~ Profiles

(#1). Wojtek

Seed: 1
PAW Race Rank: #1
Country: Poland
2003 Titles: 4

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: Champion
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: 4th Round
US Open: 3rd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Australian Open, Indian Wells, Estoril & Vienna
Runner-up: Auckland & Stanford
Semi-Finalist: Doha
Quarter-Finalist: San Diego, New Haven & Bali

:clap2: :clap2:

(#2). SpikeyAidanm

Seed: 2
PAW Race Rank: #2
Country: Australia
2003 Titles: 1

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: DNP
French Open: Semi-Final
Wimbledon: Runner-Up
US Open: 4th Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Bali
Runner-up: Miami, Wimbledon & Budapest
Semi-Finalist: French Open, Birmingham & Zurich
Quarter-Finalist: Dubai, Scottsdale, Sarastosa, Bol, Stanford, Luxembourg & Quebec City

:clap2: :clap2:

(#3). sandg

Seed: 3
PAW Race Rank: #3
Country: Indonesia
2003 Titles: 2

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: 3rd Round
French Open: Champion
Wimbledon: Quarter-Final
US Open: 3rd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Gold Coast & French Open
Runner-up: -
Semi-Finalist: Leipzig & Philadelphia
Quarter-Finalist: Pan Pacific Open, Warsaw, Vienna, Wimbledon & Toronto

:clap2: :clap2:

(#4). speedster_

Seed: 4
PAW Race Rank: #5
Country: Indonesia
2003 Titles: 3

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: DNP
French Open: Semi-Final
Wimbledon: 3rd Round
US Open: 4th Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Helsinki, Leipzig & Luxembourg
Runner-up: Tashkent
Semi-Finalist: Bol, French Open & Quebec City
Quarter-Finalist: Estoril, Budapest, Rome, Birmingham, Stanford, Sopot & Shanghai

:clap2: :clap2:

(#5). petosp

Seed: 5
PAW Race Rank: #6
Country: Venezuela
2003 Titles: 3

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: 4th Round
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: 2nd Round
US Open: 2nd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Miami, Palermo & Filderstadt
Runner-up: Open Gaz de France, Dubai & Sarastosa
Semi-Finalist: New Haven
Quarter-Finalist: Shanghai

:clap2: :clap2:

(#6). danielrosario

Seed: 6
PAW Race Rank: #7
Country: India
2003 Titles: 1

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: 3rd Round
French Open: 4th Round
Wimbledon: 3rd Round
US Open: Quarter-Final

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Dubai
Runner-up: Palermo
Semi-Finalist: Scottsdale, Stanford & Shanghai
Quarter-Finalist: Sydney, Indian Wells, Berlin, Vienna, Los Angeles & US Open

:clap2: :clap2:

(#7). Jakub

Seed: 7
PAW Race Rank: #8
Country: Poland
2003 Titles: 1

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: 4th Round
French Open: 3rd Round
Wimbledon: 4th Round
US Open: 4th Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Rome
Runner-up: Sydney
Semi-Finalist: Auckland & Indian Wells
Quarter-Finalist: Dubai, Vienna & Linz

:clap2: :clap2:

(#8). bbypk

Seed: 8
PAW Race Rank: #9
Country: Spain
2003 Titles: 0

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: Semi-Final
French Open: Quarter-Final
Wimbledon: 2nd Round
US Open: 2nd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: -
Runner-up: -
Semi-Finalist: Australian Open, Scottsdale, Miami, Amelia Island, Madrid & Moscow
Quarter-Finalist: Rome, French Open & San Diego

:clap2: :clap2:

(#9). WTA Handicapper

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #10
Country: Great Britain
2003 Titles: 1

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: 4th Round
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: 4th Round
US Open: 2nd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Auckland
Runner-up: -
Semi-Finalist: Sydney & Palmero
Quarter-Finalist: Pan Pacific Open, Open Gaz de France, Dubai, Miami, Strasbourg & Stanford

:clap2: :clap2:

(#10). Grice

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #11
Country: Singapore
2003 Titles: 2

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: Quarter-Final
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: DNP
US Open: 3rd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: San Diego & Toronto
Runner-up: -
Semi-Finalist: -
Quarter-Finalist: Australian Open, Antwerp & Shanghai

:clap2: :clap2:

(#11). Pintaled

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #12
Country: Australia
2003 Titles: 1

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: DNP
French Open: 4th Round
Wimbledon: 2nd Round
US Open: 2nd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Shanghai
Runner-up: Toronto
Semi-Finalist: Charleston, Budapest & Vienna
Quarter-Finalist: Rome, Sopot, Helsinki, New Haven, Bali & Luxembourg

:clap2: :clap2:

(#12). Rtael

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #13
Country: Croatia
2003 Titles: 0

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: DNP
French Open: Runner-up
Wimbledon: 2nd Round
US Open: 3rd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: -
Runner-up: French Open
Semi-Finalist: Charleston, Amelia Island, Filderstadt, Strasbourg & Helsinki
Quarter-Finalist: Sarastosa & Vienna

:clap2: :clap2:

(#13). butch

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #14
Country: Republic of South Africa
2003 Titles: 2

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: DNP
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: 2nd Round
US Open: 2nd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: Warsaw & Moscow
Runner-up: Luxembourg
Semi-Finalist: Los Angeles
Quarter-Finalist: Miami

:clap2: :clap2:

(#14). Buitenzorg

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #15
Country: Australia
2003 Titles: 0

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: 2nd Round
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: Quarter-Final
US Open: 2nd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: -
Runner-up: Sarastosa & Strasbourg
Semi-Finalist: Birmingham, Modena (50K), Stanford & Bali
Quarter-Finalist: Gold Coast, Antwerp, Warsaw & Wimbledon

:clap2: :clap2:

(#15). bionic71

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #16
Country: Australia
2003 Titles: 0

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: Quarter-Final
French Open: 2nd Round
Wimbledon: 2nd Round
US Open: 3rd Round

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: -
Runner-up: Japan Open
Semi-Finalist: Pan Pacific Open, Doha & Linz
Quarter-Finalist: Sydney, Australian Open, Berlin, Tashkent & Philadelphia

:clap2: :clap2:

(#16). K&J fan

Seed: Unseeded
PAW Race Rank: #17
Country: Belgium
2003 Titles: 0

2003 Grand Slams:

Australian Open: DNP
French Open: 4th Round
Wimbledon: 3rd Round
US Open: Quarter-Final

Best 2003 Results:

Winner: -
Runner-up: Berlin
Semi-Finalist: Bol & Moscow
Quarter-Finalist: Modena (50K), Stanford, San Diego, Los Angeles, US Open & Bali

:clap2: :clap2:

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 29th, 2003, 08:34 AM
Pick Summary

bionic71
PAW01 : CLIJSTERS over Dementieva (7 points)
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Sugiyama
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW05 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW06 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW07 :

bbypk (8)
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW02 : CLIJSTERS over Dementieva (7 points)
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW04 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW05 :
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

Buitenzorg
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW02 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW03 : DEMENTIEVA over Rubin
PAW04 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW05 :
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

butch
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW03 : DEMENTIEVA over Rubin
PAW04 : MYSKINA over Capriati
PAW05 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW06 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW07 :

danielrosario (6)
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW02 : CLIJSTERS over Dementieva (7 points)
PAW03 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW05 : CLIJSTERS over Mauresmo (7 points)
PAW06 : SUGIYAMA over Myskina (0 points)
PAW07 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Sugiyama

Grice
PAW01 : RUBIN over Dementieva
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW04 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW05 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

Jakub (7)
PAW01 : CLIJSTERS over Dementieva (7 points)
PAW02 : CAPRIATI over Sugiyama (7 points)
PAW03 : CLIJSTERS over Rubin (6 points)
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW05 : CLIJSTERS over Mauresmo (7 points)
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

K&J fan
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW02 : DEMENTIEVA over Mauresmo (0 points)
PAW03 : MYSKINA over Henin-Hardenne (0 points)
PAW04 : SUGIYAMA over Myskina (0 points)
PAW05 : CAPRIATI over Henin-Hardenne (0 points)
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

petosp (5)
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW03 : RUBIN over Dementieva
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW05 : CAPRIATI over Myskina
PAW06 : CAPRIATI over Henin-Hardenne (0 points)
PAW07 :

Pintaled
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW02 : SUGIYAMA over Capriati (0 points)
PAW03 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW05 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

Rtael
PAW01 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW02 : DEMENTIEVA over Mauresmo (0 points)
PAW03 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW05 :
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

sandg (3)
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW04 : CAPRIATI over Henin-Hardenne (0 points)
PAW05 :
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

speedster_ (4)
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW02 : SUGIYAMA over Capriati (0 points)
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW04 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW05 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW06 : MYSKINA over Capriati
PAW07 : RUBIN over Dementieva

SpikeyAidanm (2)
PAW01 : CLIJSTERS over Dementieva (7 points)
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW04 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW05 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

Wojtek (1)
PAW01 : CLIJSTERS over Dementieva (7 points)
PAW02 : MAURESMO over Dementieva (10 points)
PAW03 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW04 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati (9 points)
PAW05 :
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

WTA Handicapper
PAW01 : MAURESMO over Rubin (0 points)
PAW02 : HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina (8 points)
PAW03 : MYSKINA over Sugiyama (9 points)
PAW04 :
PAW05 :
PAW06 :
PAW07 :

Buitenzorg
Oct 29th, 2003, 10:00 AM
Hope I can make it to the TOP 16 :bounce: IF not Good Luck to all Qualifiers ;)

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 30th, 2003, 05:39 AM
The already qualified players have their profiles up:

See 2nd post :) :wavey:

HotSpot
Oct 30th, 2003, 07:48 AM
good luck for Indonesian players... :hatoff: :hatoff:

sandg
speedster_

nitsansh
Nov 1st, 2003, 02:37 PM
Hope I can make it to the TOP 16 :bounce: IF not Good Luck to all Qualifiers ;)

If not, you're welcome to Pattaya...

Note to potential players in Los Angeles:
If you qualify to LA, you will be automatically withdrawn from Pattaya. If you posted a commitment to play in Pattaya, you don't have to do anything, I'll take your name off the list of players...
If you don't qualify to LA, you HAVE to post a commitment in order to play in Pattaya.
ANYONE who wants to play in Pattaya, and is not included in the list of players on the PAW Pattaya thread (in the Pattaya tournament forum, of course), should post a commitment on the COMMITMENT THREAD in PAW forum until the deadline of Midnight Pattaya time November 2nd (midnight between Nov 2nd and 3rd, to make it absolutely clear...).
Because of the 12 hours difference between Philadelphia or Quebec and Pattaya, the list of qualifyers for LA will not be available before this deadline, and therefor, anyone who wants to play in Pattaya should post a commitment in time, and not wait to see if he/she qualified for LA or not.
However, I advise players who believe there's a chance that they qualify to LA and are also entered in Pattaya, not to post picks for Pattaya until they know they will not qualify to LA.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 2nd, 2003, 12:18 AM
We have 6 more Qualifiers.

~ Grice
~ Pintaled
~ Rtael
~ Buitenzorg
~ K&J fan
~ butch

Congrats guys, I will compile your 2003 Results in the 2nd post of this thread, in a few hours :wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 2nd, 2003, 06:44 AM
PAW profiles (with 2003 results) updated in Post #2, with all the qualifiers now confirmed. :wavey:

Frank Riley
Nov 2nd, 2003, 07:34 AM
Can someone please explain this to the old guy, please. :eek:

K&J fan
Nov 2nd, 2003, 09:38 AM
We have 6 more Qualifiers.

~ Grice
~ Pintaled
~ Rtael
~ Buitenzorg
~ K&J fan
~ butch

Congrats guys, I will compile your 2003 Results in the 2nd post of this thread, in a few hours :wavey:


joepie ! :yippee: :dance:

butch
Nov 2nd, 2003, 02:23 PM
We have 6 more Qualifiers.

~ Grice
~ Pintaled
~ Rtael
~ Buitenzorg
~ K&J fan
~ butch

Congrats guys, I will compile your 2003 Results in the 2nd post of this thread, in a few hours :wavey:

Hurray! :bounce: :bounce: At least there will be some South African representation at the Champs! :D

WTA Handicapper
Nov 2nd, 2003, 08:56 PM
Great work on the "Profiles" Spikey.
Although I notice you got me down as 4th round and Semi Finalist at the Australian!

God,Ive just noticed also Im defending Champ this week,but on my current form I coudnt even win a ITF Tournament,Lol
Anyway congrats to all the Qualifers,may the best man or Woman win!
WTA Handicapper

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 3rd, 2003, 12:17 AM
Seeds added and profiles updated.

Now I'm awaiting the draw :)

Rtael
Nov 3rd, 2003, 12:30 AM
Don't you think 7 is too few? 10-12 sounds better!

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 3rd, 2003, 12:48 AM
Don't you think 7 is too few? 10-12 sounds better!

I am basing it on the Tour Champs last year. (Simon used 7)

Last year 14 matches were played:

R16: 8
QF: 4
SF: 2
F: 1

This year 14 matches also will be played:

Round Robin Group 1: 6
Round Robin Group 2: 6
SF: 2
F: 1

Rtael
Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:11 AM
okay then :)

Lee-Waters' Boy
Nov 3rd, 2003, 03:11 AM
you mean players qualify for here and get no ranking points? id rather play pattaya then anyway

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 3rd, 2003, 03:26 AM
you mean players qualify for here and get no ranking points? id rather play pattaya then anyway

The ranking points are based on WTA, and since there are only 8 players in the WTA who get ranking points, that's the way it works.

I originally made it only top 8 players, so everyone was guarenteed points, but others wanted to change it to 16, so I did.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 3rd, 2003, 03:27 AM
R1 Scoring points up, see first post :wavey:

Rtael
Nov 3rd, 2003, 05:16 AM
PAW1: Henin Def. Capriati
PAW2: Dementieva Def. Mauresmo
PAW3: Dementieva Def. Rubin
PAW4: Henin Def. Myskina

Rtael
Nov 3rd, 2003, 05:16 AM
First to post my PAW picks, so I will be the one to finish first place! :p

Pintaled
Nov 3rd, 2003, 06:02 AM
Paw1: Mauresmo def Dementieva

butch
Nov 3rd, 2003, 06:10 PM
PAW1 A Mauresmo over E Dementieva
PAW2 A Mauresmo over C.Rubin
PAW3 E.Dementieva over C.Rubin
PAW4 A.Myskina over J.Capriati
PAW5 J.Henin-Hardenne over A.Myskina
PAW6 J Henin-Hardenne over J.Capriati

nitsansh
Nov 3rd, 2003, 06:46 PM
you mean players qualify for here and get no ranking points? id rather play pattaya then anyway

You are playing in Pattaya, don't you?

What's the deal with players not getting points... it happends in many tournaments where the # of PAWers by far exceeds the # of actual players... and here if you get points, it's BIG points...

Lee-Waters' Boy
Nov 3rd, 2003, 07:29 PM
The ranking points are based on WTA, and since there are only 8 players in the WTA who get ranking points, that's the way it works.

I originally made it only top 8 players, so everyone was guarenteed points, but others wanted to change it to 16, so I did.
if all players in wta get points, all player in paw should. im just saying its kind of silly that this tournament is for the best 16 players this year but half of them won't be rewarded for making it to this point?

Lee-Waters' Boy
Nov 3rd, 2003, 07:30 PM
You are playing in Pattaya, don't you?

What's the deal with players not getting points... it happends in many tournaments where the # of PAWers by far exceeds the # of actual players... and here if you get points, it's BIG points...
yeah im playing pattaya, but if i made it into this event i'd think twice about playing and getting 0 rankings points vs. virtually being guaranteed of points in pattaya

sandg
Nov 4th, 2003, 12:31 AM
yeah im playing pattaya, but if i made it into this event i'd think twice about playing and getting 0 rankings points vs. virtually being guaranteed of points in pattaya

Playing in Pattaya isn't being guaranteed of points. So many PAW Players in Pattaya (70), but only 32 players get Ranking Points and the biggest points only 80.
As Top 8 Player (Who originally qualify to LA), I still prefer to play in LA although have big risk to get 0 Ranking Points. Its more challenge not too easy to get big points.
I think better others top 8 players have opinion.
Maybe, 0 ranking points for #9 - #16 can be changed with qualify points or performance points or another.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 4th, 2003, 12:55 AM
Guys I have changed it so that players who finish #9th - #16th, are given 37 points, as performance pts for reaching LA.

:wavey:

Pintaled
Nov 4th, 2003, 01:53 AM
Paw2: Sugiyama def Capriati
Paw3: Mauresmo def Rubin

Grice
Nov 4th, 2003, 06:47 AM
PAW1: Dementieva over C.Rubin
PAW2: Mauresmo over Rubin
PAW3: Henin-Hardenne over Capriati
PAW4: Mauresmo over Dementieva

Jakub
Nov 4th, 2003, 09:06 AM
paw 1: Clijsters over Dementieva :bigcry:
paw 2: Capriati over Sugiyama

bbypk
Nov 4th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Paw 1 : A.Mauresmo (3) def. C.Rubin
Paw 2 : K.Clijsters (1) def. E.Dementieva

bionic71
Nov 4th, 2003, 09:33 AM
PAW1 Clijsters over Dementieva
PAW2 Mauresmo over Rubin
PAW3 Henin over Sugiyama
PAW4 Henin over Myskina

Buitenzorg
Nov 4th, 2003, 09:55 AM
01. Mauresmo def Dementieva
02. Henin-Hardenne def Capriati
03. Dementieva def Rubin

spencercarlos
Nov 4th, 2003, 12:56 PM
mauresmo def dementieva
mauresmo def rubin
dementieva def rubin
henin def miskina
capriati def miskina

marcobarella
Nov 4th, 2003, 06:10 PM
I can't play single masters :sad: :sad: :sad: :tape:

fleemke³
Nov 4th, 2003, 06:22 PM
K.Clijsters (1) def. C.Rubin
E.Dementieva def. A.Mauresmo (3)
E.Dementieva def. K.Clijsters (1)

A.Mauresmo (3) def. C.Rubin
E.Dementieva def. C.Rubin
K.Clijsters (1) def. A.Mauresmo (3)

Blue Group ~ Round Robin Matches

J.Henin-Hardenne (2) def. A.Sugiyama
J.Capriati (4) def. A.Myskina
J.Henin-Hardenne (2) def. A.Myskina

J.Capriati (4) def. A.Sugiyama
A.Myskina def. A.Sugiyama
J.Henin-Hardenne (2) def. J.Capriati (4)

sandg
Nov 4th, 2003, 08:07 PM
PAW01 : MAURESMO over RUBIN

speedster_
Nov 5th, 2003, 12:14 AM
PAW1 : MAURESMO over RUBIN
PAW2 : SUGIYAMA over CAPRIATI
PAW3 : HENIN-HARDENNE over MYSKINA

pReUrBrIyN
Nov 5th, 2003, 02:51 AM
:fiery: :mad: Stupid Rubin-haters :mad: :fiery:

Buitenzorg
Nov 5th, 2003, 03:01 AM
04. Mauresmo def Rubin

WTA Handicapper
Nov 5th, 2003, 08:26 AM
Morning All
Well,here we go the pressure starts!
PAW 1-MAURESMO over Rubin
Cheers
WTA Handicapper :lick:

danielrosario
Nov 5th, 2003, 10:42 AM
1: Mauresmo over Rubin
2: Clijsters over Dementieva

WTA Handicapper
Nov 5th, 2003, 04:48 PM
Hi Gang
You are the elite of this years tour.
But what are your odds to win this week?
Find out on the following topic:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2661746

It will be updated after each days play
WTA Handicapper

K&J fan
Nov 5th, 2003, 04:58 PM
:wavey: I'm honoured to play with this elite :D

PAW1 - Mauresmo over Rubin

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 6th, 2003, 03:22 AM
PAW1: CLIJSTERS over Dementieva

Wojtek
Nov 6th, 2003, 04:36 AM
PAW 1 : CLIJSTERS d. Dementieva

bionic71
Nov 6th, 2003, 05:04 AM
PAW5 Myskina over Sugiyama

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 6th, 2003, 06:52 AM
League Table updated after Day 1

See First Post :wavey:

speedster_
Nov 6th, 2003, 06:53 AM
PAW4 : MAURESMO over DEMENTIEVA

WTA Handicapper
Nov 6th, 2003, 07:45 AM
Hi Gang
You are the elite of this years tour.
But what are your odds to win this week?
Find out on the following topic:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2661746

It will be updated after each days play
WTA Handicapper

Revised odds after Day one Posted on above topic :kiss:

WTA Handicapper
Nov 6th, 2003, 08:20 AM
Thursday Paw
PAW 2-HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina
Cheers
WTA Handicapper

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 6th, 2003, 10:16 AM
PAW2: MAURESMO over Dementieva

bbypk
Nov 6th, 2003, 10:28 AM
Paw 3 : J.Henin-Hardenne (2) def. A.Myskina

Wojtek
Nov 6th, 2003, 11:00 AM
PAW 2 : MAURESMO d. Dementieva

bionic71
Nov 6th, 2003, 12:15 PM
PAW6 Mauresmo over Dementieva

danielrosario
Nov 6th, 2003, 12:37 PM
3: Mauresmo over Dementieva

sandg
Nov 6th, 2003, 06:48 PM
PAW02 : MAURESMO over DEMENTIEVA
PAW03 : HENIN-HARDENNE over MYSKINA

Jakub
Nov 6th, 2003, 08:38 PM
paw 3: Clijsters over Rubin
paw 4: Henin over Myskina :sad:

K&J fan
Nov 6th, 2003, 11:50 PM
PAW2 - Dementieva over Mauresmo
PAW3 - Myskina over Hénin :(

Rtael
Nov 7th, 2003, 02:22 AM
I want to cancel my PAW Elena Def. Chanda and change it to

Myskina Def. Sugiyama

Pintaled
Nov 7th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Paw4: Henin-Hardenne def Myskina

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 7th, 2003, 02:58 AM
PAW3: HENIN-HARDENNE over Myskina

danielrosario
Nov 7th, 2003, 03:58 AM
4: J.Henin-Hardenne over A.Myskina

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:05 AM
League table updated after Day 2

See first post :wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:29 AM
Capriati def Henin
Capriati def Miskina

Sorry this tournament is only for the top 16 PAW players who have finished in an elite group, to make the champs.

However, you can sign up for 2004 PAW events, in the commitment thread located in the PAW forum :wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 7th, 2003, 07:29 AM
PAW4: MYSKINA over Sugiyama

Wojtek
Nov 7th, 2003, 09:20 AM
PAW 3 : MYSKINA d. Sugiyama

speedster_
Nov 7th, 2003, 09:44 AM
PAW5 : HENIN-HARDENNE over CAPRIATI

Grice
Nov 7th, 2003, 10:25 AM
PAW5: Myskina over Sugiyama

Grice
Nov 7th, 2003, 10:33 AM
can I change my PAW1: Dementieva over Rubin to
PAW1: RUBIN over Dementieva?

WTA Handicapper
Nov 7th, 2003, 10:57 AM
Friday Paw
PAW 3-MYSKINA over Sugiyama
Cheers
WTA Handicapper

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 7th, 2003, 12:07 PM
can I change my PAW1: Dementieva over Rubin to
PAW1: RUBIN over Dementieva?

Done :wavey:

WTA Handicapper
Nov 7th, 2003, 12:47 PM
Hi Gang
You are the elite of this years tour.
But what are your odds to win this week?
Find out on the following topic:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2661746

It will be updated after each days play

WTA Handicapper

Revised Odds after Day 2 now posted on above Topic :wavey:

danielrosario
Nov 7th, 2003, 12:59 PM
5 K.Clijsters over A.Mauresmo
6 A.Sugiyama over A.Myskina
7 J.Henin-Hardenne over A.Sugiyama

spencercarlos
Nov 7th, 2003, 01:18 PM
replacement PAW:for dementieva def rubin

my new paws are
rubin def dementieva
capriati def henin

Jakub
Nov 7th, 2003, 02:28 PM
paw 5: Clijsters over Mauresmo

bbypk
Nov 7th, 2003, 03:16 PM
Paw 4 : A.Myskina def. A.Sugiyama

K&J fan
Nov 7th, 2003, 03:39 PM
PAW4 - Sugiyama over Myskina
PAW5 - Capriati over Hénin :crying2:

Pintaled
Nov 8th, 2003, 12:17 AM
Paw5: Henin-Hardenne def Capriati

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 12:44 AM
PAW5: HENIN-HARDENNE over Capriati

Wojtek
Nov 8th, 2003, 01:58 AM
PAW 4 : HENIN d. Capriati

sandg
Nov 8th, 2003, 02:10 AM
PAW04 : CAPRIATI over HENIN-HARDENNE

speedster_
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:07 AM
PAW6 : MYSKINA over CAPRIATI
PAW7 : RUBIN over DEMENTIEVA

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:39 AM
Just curious...
how the ranking points for this tournament were determined?
I see no resemblance to the actual points except for the top 2!

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:50 AM
Just curious...
how the ranking points for this tournament were determined?
I see no resemblance to the actual points except for the top 2!

Follows the WTA ranking points for the championships.

sandg is the expert.....

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 05:05 AM
This is what I mean...

Money and points in the championships:
Winner 1,000,000 485
Finalist 500,000 340
Semifinalists 250,000 218
RR 3rd place 130,000 121
RR 4th place 100,000 67

I looked at the PAW points, and after the top 2 none of them match the WTA points...
Perhaps the points were copied from last year, but this year with the change of format, the points have changed too...
I was just wondering how it was calculated...

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 05:10 AM
Yes I believe it was copied from last year (as the top 8), could you possibly derive the ranking points based ont his year?

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 05:54 AM
League Table updated

~ After Day 3

~ See First Post :wavey:

sandg
Nov 8th, 2003, 07:30 AM
This is what I mean...

Money and points in the championships:
Winner 1,000,000 485
Finalist 500,000 340
Semifinalists 250,000 218
RR 3rd place 130,000 121
RR 4th place 100,000 67

I looked at the PAW points, and after the top 2 none of them match the WTA points...
Perhaps the points were copied from last year, but this year with the change of format, the points have changed too...
I was just wondering how it was calculated...

Ranking Points for PAW Games LA Championships based from,

Winner 485
Finalist 340
Semifinalist 218
Quarter Finalist 121
R-16 67

Ranking Points for #1 - #4 copied from last year Ranking Points (16 players) and for #5 - #8 taken from points for quarter finalist 121 pts.
Ranking Points in Real Tournament is RR 3rd place counted as Quarter finalist and RR 4rd place counted as R-16.

I counted Ranking Points for 8 players before Ranking Points for real tournament was released. I assumed The Ranking Points equals with Ranking Points for Double last year (8 players) that quarter finalist get 121 pts.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 07:54 AM
PAW6: MYSKINA over Capriati

sandg
Nov 8th, 2003, 08:10 AM
PAW05 : RUBIN over DEMENTIEVA
PAW06 : MYSKINA over CAPRIATI

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:01 AM
PAW7: RUBIN over Dementieva

Buitenzorg
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:31 AM
05. Capriati def Myskina

WTA Handicapper
Nov 8th, 2003, 11:22 AM
Hi Gang
You are the elite of this years tour.
But what are your odds to win this week?
Find out on the following topic:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2661746

It will be updated after each days play
WTA Handicapper

Revised Odds after Day three Play updated on above topic. :lol:

WTA Handicapper
Nov 8th, 2003, 11:34 AM
Saturday Paw
PAW 4-HENIN-HARDENNE over Sugiyama
Cheers
WTA Handicapper

Wojtek
Nov 8th, 2003, 12:59 PM
PAW 5 : RUBIN d. Dementieva
PAW 6 : MYSKINA d. Capriati

bionic71
Nov 8th, 2003, 01:01 PM
PAW7 Myskina over Capriati

Buitenzorg
Nov 8th, 2003, 01:47 PM
Cancellation pls ;)

05. Capriati def Myskina


Change to : :)

05. Myskina def Capriati

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:12 PM
Yes I believe it was copied from last year (as the top 8), could you possibly derive the ranking points based ont his year?
I don't think you should change it after the tournament began...

Anyway, what's the formula to determine the ranking points?
Who gets semifinalist points - 3rd or 4th? and like wise for 5th to 8th?

Rtael
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:17 PM
PAW5: Myskina Def. Capriati

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:20 PM
League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003 after Day 3
(updated after Jakub and Pintaled picks)

#.Player..............P..W..L..Pts.picks day 4
1.SpikeyAidanm (2)....5..5..0..43..Myskina..Rubin
2.Wojtek (1)..........4..4..0..35..Myskina..Rubin
..Jakub (7)...........5..5..0..35..Myskina
4.bionic71............5..4..1..34..Henin..Myskina
5.danielrosario (6)...6..4..2..32..Henin
6.Grice...............4..3..1..28..Rubin
7.butch...............4..3..1..27..Dementieva..Mys kina
..Pintaled............5..3..2..27..Myskina
..speedster_ (4)......5..3..2..27..Myskina..Rubin
10.Rtael..............4..3..1..26..Myskina
11.bbypk (8)..........4..3..1..24..Henin..Myskina
12.Buitenzorg.........3..2..1..19..Dementieva..Mys kina
13.petosp (5).........4..2..2..18..Rubin..Capriati
...sandg (3)..........4..2..2..18..Rubin..Myskina
15.WTA Handicapper....3..2..1..17..Henin
16.K&J fan............5..0..5...0..


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Semi-Finals

K.Clijsters (1) vs ???...................(TBA)
??? vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)..............(TBA)

Red Group ~ Round Robin Matches

E.Dementieva vs C.Rubin..................(10-11)

Black Group ~ Round Robin Matches

J.Henin-Hardenne (2) vs A.Sugiyama.......(7-15)
A.Myskina vs J.Capriati (4)..............(12-9)

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 04:43 PM
It looks like the cream rises to the top...
The top 2 PAWers, who battle for the year-end #1 spot, are ranked in the top 2 places in the WTA chmpionships after day 3, and could extend their lead if their picks for Myskina and Rubin succeed...
Whatever the result in these 2 matches, Spikey will maintain his 8 pts lead over Wojtek, but the #1 seed will have one pick remaining while Spikey will run out of picks.
Jakub, who has yet to announce his picks for day 4, must pick different choice if he wants to stay in contention for the title. His only chance for the title is if Spikey fail with at least one pick, as I don't see a situation that a gap of 31 pts could be closed with just 2 picks.

pReUrBrIyN
Nov 8th, 2003, 05:50 PM
:bigclap:

Teaches all of you not to believe in Chanda

:rolleyes: Amelie over Chanda???? :rolleyes:

GO CHANDA BEAT ELENA!!! :bigclap:

bbypk
Nov 8th, 2003, 07:36 PM
Paw 5 : J.Henin-Hardenne (2) def. A.Sugiyama
Paw 6 : A.Myskina def. J.Capriati (4)

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 08:49 PM
The 1st match on day 4 is allready in progress...
In this match there are 6 picks for Rubin and just 2 for Dementieva...
Next on court will be Myskina and Capriati... in this match there are at this moment 9 picks for Myskina against one for Capriati...
In the last match of the round-robin stage 5 PAWers picked Henin and no one chose Sugiyama, despite a tempting 15 points score for the Japanese... it looks like the PAWers usual favor of underdogs fades out in the Champioships, when the year-end ranking is at stake...

Jakub
Nov 8th, 2003, 09:19 PM
paw 6: Myskina over Capriati

Pintaled
Nov 8th, 2003, 09:33 PM
Paw6: Myskina def Capriati

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 09:40 PM
About 15 minutes ago, it looked like Rubin is cruising to victory, and the PAW championships is a 2-horse race between SpikeyAidanm and Wojtek... but Dementieva came back to win 7-5 in the 2nd set, and left some hope for the other contenders...

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 09:56 PM
If Dementieva, who is 3-0 up in the final set at this moment, completes her remarkable comeback with a win, butch will jump to 2nd place on 37 pts, 6 pts behind SpikeyAidanm with a pick in hand... and Buitenzorg will be also in contention, with 29 pts and 2 picks in hand on the leader...

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:15 PM
League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003
after 1st match on day 4

#. Player..............P..W..L..Pts.picks day 4
1. SpikeyAidanm (2)....6..5..1..43..Myskina..Rubin(0)
2. butch...............5..4..1..37..Dementieva(10)..M yskina
3. Wojtek (1)..........5..4..1..35..Myskina..Rubin(0)
.. Jakub (7)...........5..5..0..35..Myskina
5. bionic71............5..4..1..34..Henin..Myskina
6. danielrosario (6)...6..4..2..32..Henin
7. Buitenzorg..........4..3..1..29..Dementieva(10)..M yskina
8. Grice...............5..3..2..28..Rubin(0)
9. Pintaled............5..3..2..27..Myskina
.. speedster_ (4)......6..3..3..27..Myskina..Rubin(0)
11.Rtael...............4..3..1..26..Myskina
12.bbypk (8)...........4..3..1..24..Henin..Myskina
13.petosp (5)..........5..2..3..18..Rubin(0)..Capriati
...sandg (3)...........5..2..3..18..Rubin(0)..Myskina
15.WTA Handicapper.....3..2..1..17..Henin
16.K&J fan.............5..0..5...0..


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Semi-Finals

K.Clijsters (1) vs ???...................(TBA)
??? vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)..............(TBA)

Red Group ~ Round Robin Matches

E.Dementieva vs C.Rubin..................(10-11)

Black Group ~ Round Robin Matches

J.Henin-Hardenne (2) vs A.Sugiyama.......(7-15)
A.Myskina vs J.Capriati (4)..............(12-9)

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:16 PM
Chanda :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

nitsansh
Nov 8th, 2003, 10:33 PM
Dementieva's astonishing win has opened a wide door for at least 5 players to overtake SpikeyAidanm at the top. All the players in the top 5, and also Buitenzorg in 7th place, have a pick for Myskina in her match against Capriati, and no matter if she win or lose, the leaderboard won't be changed.
Spikey will run out of picks after this match, while butch, Wojtek, Jakub and bionic71, who are within 9 pts off the top, all will have one pick left, and Buitenzorg, 14 pts off the top, will have 2 picks in hand. If Myskina lose, Grice, who doesn't have any pick in this match, will also be in contention with 2 picks left and 15 pts from the leader. Rtael and bbypk also still have a chance to win, but it's a very slim one.

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 12:37 AM
League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003
after 2nd match on day 4

#. Player..............P..W..L..Pts.picks day 4
1. SpikeyAidanm (2)....7..5..2..43..Myskina(0)..Rubin(0)
2. butch...............6..4..2..37..Dementieva(10)..M yskina(0)
3. Wojtek (1)..........6..4..2..35..Myskina(0)..Rubin(0)
.. Jakub (7)...........6..5..1..35..Myskina(0)
5. bionic71............6..4..2..34..Henin..Myskina(0)
6. danielrosario (6)...6..4..2..32..Henin
7. Buitenzorg..........5..3..2..29..Dementieva(10)..M yskina(0)
8. Grice...............5..3..2..28..Rubin(0)
9. Pintaled............6..3..3..27..Myskina(0)
.. speedster_ (4)......7..3..4..27..Myskina(0)..Rubin(0)
...petosp (5)..........6..3..3..27..Rubin(0)..Capriati(9)
12.Rtael...............5..3..2..26..Myskina(0)
13.bbypk (8)...........5..3..2..24..Henin..Myskina(0)
14.sandg (3)...........6..2..4..18..Rubin(0)..Myskina(0)
15.WTA Handicapper.....3..2..1..17..Henin
16.K&J fan.............5..0..5...0..


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Semi-Finals

K.Clijsters (1) vs ???...................(TBA)
??? vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)..............(TBA)

Red Group ~ Round Robin Matches

E.Dementieva vs C.Rubin..................(10-11)

Black Group ~ Round Robin Matches

J.Henin-Hardenne (2) vs A.Sugiyama.......(7-15)
A.Myskina vs J.Capriati (4)..............(12-9)

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 12:54 AM
Capriati's win over Myskina was an upset to most PAWers at this championship. The only player who picked the winner was petosp, but he had such a bad start in the tournament that it's too late to disturb the contenders to the title.
Nothing has changed in the top 8, but Grice has improved his position as he didn't have a pick in the last match.
In the next match, the last of the day, 4 PAWers picked Henin, but none has picked Sugiyama.
bionic71 and danielrosario can climb to 2nd and 3rd place respectively if Justin wins, but this is their last pick of the tournament so they don't disturb SpikeyAidanm at the top.
bbypk and WTA Handicapper also picked Henin, and they can move up to 7th and 13th place respectively. They still have a chance for the title, especially WTA Handicapper, who will be 19 pts from the top with 3 picks still in hand. If he wins his last 4 picks he can make a comeback Dementieva would be proud of...

spencercarlos
Nov 9th, 2003, 01:46 AM
mauresmo def henin

bionic71
Nov 9th, 2003, 02:01 AM
oh dear!
what a day.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 9th, 2003, 02:14 AM
League table updated - see post :wavey: :speakles: :)

WTA Handicapper
Nov 9th, 2003, 08:47 AM
Hi Gang
You are the elite of this years tour.
But what are your odds to win this week?
Find out on the following topic:
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2661746

It will be updated after each days play
WTA Handicapper

Revised odds after a dramatic 4th days play now posted on above topic :sad:

Grice
Nov 9th, 2003, 09:05 AM
PAW6: HENIN over Mauresmo

Buitenzorg
Nov 9th, 2003, 10:06 AM
06. Clijsters def Capriati
07. Henin-Hardenne def Mauresmo

WTA Handicapper
Nov 9th, 2003, 11:43 AM
Sunday Paw"s
PAW 5-CLIJSTERS over Capriati
PAW 6-HENIN-HARDENNE over Mauresmo
Cheers

Well done to Nitsansh for the updates.

WTA Handicapper

Rtael
Nov 9th, 2003, 11:55 AM
PAW6: Justine Def. Mauresmo

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 12:03 PM
After the surprise results of day 4, 8 players still have a chance to take the title, at least a mathematical chance...
The leader SpikeyAidanm, who would climb to #1 in the ranking if he wins the Championship, is a sitting duck at this stage, with no picks left in the tournament, and he should hope no one will overtake him... but it's almost certain that wouldn't be...
There are 3 players with 1 pick left who can overtake Spikey: butch, who is 6 pts behind Spikey, and Wojtek and Jakub, who are both 8 pts off the leader. If Wojtek will overtake Spikey he would retain his position at the top of the ranking.
Further down, 3 players with 2 picks in hand can still win the title: Buitenzorg, Grice and Rtael. WTA Handicapper, with 3 picks remaining, also has a chance to defend his title last year and avoid a slump in the ranking.

For your information... the ranking list after last year's Championship points were taken off is as follows:

-------------------------------Titles-------P-O-I-N-T-S-------Next
-#--Lst#--PLAYER---------------Ttl (1y)-Total--Added-17th-18th-Off
001.(001).Wojtek...........POL.__6.__4...1935...__ 0.._29..___..113
002.(002).SpikeyAidanm.....AUS.__1.__1...1807..._3 5.._35.._35..___
003.(003).sandg............INA.__2.__2...1698...10 1.._24.._24..__0
004.(004).ajayares.........AUS.__5.__3...1594...__ _.._10..___..113
005.(006).speedster_.......INA.__3.__3...1519..._5 6.._27.._22..___
006.(008).petosp...........VEN.__6.__3...1341...__ 0.._16.._15..__0
007.(009).danielrosario....IND.__3.__1...1310...__ 0.._30.._24..__0
008.(007).Jakub............POL.__3.__1...1239...__ 7.._13..___..252
009.(010).bbypk............ESP.__0.__0...1220..._2 0.._20..___.._56
010.(005).WTA Handicapper..GBR.__3.__2...1070...__0.._29..___..4 85
011.(011).Grice............SIN.__2.__2...1047...__ 5.._14..___..151
012.(013).Pintaled.........AUS.__1.__1...1041...__ 7..__8..__8..___
013.(014).Rtael............CRO.__0.__0...1035...__ 6.._12..__9..___
014.(015).butch............RSA.__2.__2...1034..._3 5..__7..__6..___
015.(016).Buitenzorg.......AUS.__1.__0...1023...__ 0.._30.._25.._19
016.(012).bionic71.........AUS.__2.__0...1022..._5 3.._24..___..151
017.(017).K&J fan..........BEL.__0.__0...1021...__0..__8..__4.._ __

K&J fan
Nov 9th, 2003, 02:16 PM
PAW6 - Mauresmo over Hénin :scared:

bbypk
Nov 9th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Paw 7 : A.Mauresmo (3) def. J.Henin-Hardenne (2)

butch
Nov 9th, 2003, 02:58 PM
PAW7 Clijsters over Capriati

Jakub
Nov 9th, 2003, 05:21 PM
paw 7 : Henin over Mauresmo

Wojtek
Nov 9th, 2003, 06:29 PM
PAW 7 : HENIN d. Mauresmo

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 07:26 PM
League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003
after day 4

#. Player..............P..W..L..Pts.picks for SF
1. SpikeyAidanm (2)....7..5..2..43..
2. butch...............6..4..2..37..Clijsters
3. Wojtek (1)..........6..4..2..35..Henin
.. Jakub (7)...........6..5..1..35..Henin
5. bionic71............7..4..3..34..
6. danielrosario (6)...7..4..3..32..
7. Buitenzorg..........5..3..2..29..Clijsters..Henin
8. Grice...............5..3..2..28..Henin
9. Pintaled............6..3..3..27..
.. speedster_ (4)......7..3..4..27..
...petosp (5)..........6..3..3..27..Mauresmo
12.Rtael...............5..3..2..26..Henin
13.bbypk (8)...........6..3..3..24..Mauresmo
14.sandg (3)...........6..2..4..18..
15.WTA Handicapper.....4..2..2..17..Clijsters..Henin
16.K&J fan.............5..0..5...0..Mauresmo


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Semi-Finals

K.Clijsters (1) vs J.Capriati (4)........(7-13)
A.Mauresmo (3) vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)...(12-8)

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 08:02 PM
The first semifinal between Clijsters and Capriati is about to start...
In this match, 3 PAWers picked Clijsters and no one picked Capriati.
In case the world #1 (for just a couple more days) wins, butch will take the lead with 1 point advantage over SpikeyAidanm. Also, Buitenzorg will get within 8 points off the new leader with one pick still in hand, which he has already used for Henin in the 2nd semifinal, so if both Belgians go through to the final, butch and Buitenzorg will be levelled at the top with no picks remaining.
The 3rd PAWer who picked Clijsters is the defending champion WTA Handicapper, who also picked Henin, and if both picks are winners he will get within 12 pts off the leaders with a pick still in hand, but I don't think an all-Belgian final will give him a chance to close that gap - the scores in that match are likely to be 10-10, so the champion can no longer defend his crown.
In the 2nd semi, 4 other players picked Henin. Wojtek and Jakub will make a 3-way-tie with SpikeyAidanm if they win this pick - a smart move from Wojtek who will stay in #1 position if he ties with Spikey!
Grice and Rtael also picked Henin, and if she wins, they will be 7 and 9 pts respectively behind Spikey, Wojtek and Jakub, and 8 and 10 pts respectively behind butch and Buitenzorg if Clijsters win. These 2 are the only contenders for the title who will have a pick in the final, and if they win both their last picks, they could be the winners of the year-end championship!
There could be a situation that the top 7-8 players are seperated by only 2-4 points!!
3 PAWers have picked Mauresmo in the 2nd semi, but petosp, bbypk and K&J fan no longer have a chance for the title. However, win for the Frenchwoman could gain them important ranking points. With a win for Mauresmo, petosp could jump as high as 2nd or 3rd place, and bbypk could jump to 4th or 5th. K&J fan, who has yet to score any points in this championship, won't escape the last place with a win for Mauresmo, but he could avoid the wooden spoon if he wins this pick as well as his last one in the final.

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 09:12 PM
League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003
after first semifinal

#. Player..............P..W..L..Pts.picks for SF
1. butch...............7..5..2..44..Clijsters(7)
2. SpikeyAidanm (2)....7..5..2..43..
3. Buitenzorg..........6..4..2..36..Clijsters(7)..Hen in
4. Wojtek (1)..........6..4..2..35..Henin
.. Jakub (7)...........6..5..1..35..Henin
6. bionic71............7..4..3..34..
7. danielrosario (6)...7..4..3..32..
8. Grice...............5..3..2..28..Henin
9. Pintaled............6..3..3..27..
.. speedster_ (4)......7..3..4..27..
...petosp (5)..........6..3..3..27..Mauresmo
12.Rtael...............5..3..2..26..Henin
13.bbypk (8)...........6..3..3..24..Mauresmo
...WTA Handicapper.....5..3..2..24..Clijsters(7)..Henin
15.sandg (3)...........6..2..4..18..
16.K&J fan.............5..0..5...0..Mauresmo


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Semi-Finals

K.Clijsters (1) vs J.Capriati (4)........(7-13)
A.Mauresmo (3) vs J.Henin-Hardenne (2)...(12-8)

nitsansh
Nov 9th, 2003, 09:35 PM
So, as expected, butch went to the top of the standing after the win for Clijsters over wounded Capriati, and with his 7 picks all used, he waits to see if anyone will catch him.
Spikey dropped to 2nd place, and now need a win for Mauresmo in the 2nd semi to maintain its challenge for #1 in the ranking. If he stays in 2nd place and Wojtek is ranked no better than 4th, Spikey will take over the top spot.
In fact, according to my calculation, if Mauresmo win butch will win the Championship and Spikey will be #1 in the ranking, as none of those who will have a pick left for the final can catch them, and Wojtek will drop to joint-6th and possibly lower after the final.
If Henin win, however, Buitenzorg will join butch at the top on 44 pts, Wojtek and Jakub will tie with Spikey in 3rd place on 43 pts, and all of them will be running out of picks. Grice will climb to 6th place on 36 pts, Rtael will join bionic71 on 34 pts, and WTA Handicapper will be levelled with danielrosario on 32 pts. Grice, Rtael and WTA Handicapper will have one pick left for the final, and at least the former 2 can get the title if their final pick is a winner.
As far as #1 in the ranking is concerned, a tie between Spikey and Wojtek means the current #1 retains his place for at least another 8 weeks, as no points will be deducted or added until the first ranking of 2004 which will be published on January 5th.

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 9th, 2003, 11:55 PM
I am now No 1 :woohoo: :woohoo:

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 10th, 2003, 12:07 AM
League table updated after semis

~ See first post

nitsansh
Nov 10th, 2003, 12:28 AM
Yes... we have a winner of the championships, and a new PAW #1!
Congratulations butch and Spikey!

butch is going to make a giant leap in the ranking, probably to #6, while the ougoing champion, WTA Handicapper, is likely to drop out of the top 10!

Pintaled
Nov 10th, 2003, 04:11 AM
Paw7: Mauresmo def Clijsters

By the way, congrats butch and for new no 1 - Spikey :yeah:

Grice
Nov 10th, 2003, 04:16 AM
PAW7: Clijsters over mauresmo

sandg
Nov 10th, 2003, 05:25 AM
Congrats to butch as PAW LA Championships winner, and Spikey as new #1 :worship: :worship:


PAW07 : CLIJSTERS over MAURESMO

WTA Handicapper
Nov 10th, 2003, 08:14 AM
Well Done Spikey.
Final Paw
PAW 7-MAURESMO over Clijsters
I do think Kim will win,but I need the points to do some damage limiation on the 485 Im about to lose!
WTA Handicapper

bionic71
Nov 10th, 2003, 10:58 AM
Well played "girls"!!!

butch
Nov 10th, 2003, 02:25 PM
I won!!! YESSSS!!!!!! (Does this mean I can maybe win the PAW Newcomer of the Year? just wondering).... YIPPEEE!!!

K&J fan
Nov 10th, 2003, 06:14 PM
congrats Butch and Spikey :bounce:

PAW7 - Mauresmo over Clijsters :sad:

Nikola
Nov 10th, 2003, 07:32 PM
:)

uthustler
Nov 10th, 2003, 08:37 PM
when yall say Mauresmo over Clijsters, does that mean you think Mauresmo will pull the upset???

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 10th, 2003, 08:43 PM
when yall say Mauresmo over Clijsters, does that mean you think Mauresmo will pull the upset???

Yep, with the prospect of gaining "double" points

nitsansh
Nov 10th, 2003, 09:11 PM
yup... WTA Handicapper's only chance of gaining more ranking points he already has is a win and 14 pts for Mauresmo, that could lift him to 5th place, because 7 pts for Clijsters are not enough to get him to the top 8, and all players from 9th to 16th get the same # of points (something that should be fixed IMO).
K&J fan's only chance to escape the last place, after sandg has picked Clijsters, is win for Mauresmo.
It was a smart decision for sandg not to take a high risk, because 14 pts would not get him into the top 8.
For Pintaled, win for Mauresmo will lift him to 3rd place, which is worth many points more than 8th place he could get with win for Clijsters.
Grice could also jump to 3rd place if he picked Mauresmo and won, but he opted for the safe pick that could only get him to 6th.
If Rtael, who has yet to announce his pick, choose Mauresmo and win, he will jump to 4th place behind Pintaled, while a win for Clijsters would only get him to 9th place which is worth no more points than his current position of 13th.

nitsansh
Nov 10th, 2003, 09:14 PM
League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003
after semifinals
(edit to add Rtael's pick)

#. Player..............P..W..L..Pts.picks for final
1. butch...............7..5..2..44..
2. SpikeyAidanm (2)....7..5..2..43..
3. petosp (5)..........7..4..3..39..
4. Buitenzorg..........7..4..3..36..
.. bbypk (8)...........7..4..3..36..
6. Wojtek (1)..........7..4..3..35..
.. Jakub (7)...........7..5..2..35..
8. bionic71............7..4..3..34..
9. danielrosario (6)...7..4..3..32..
10.Grice...............6..3..3..28..Clijsters
11.Pintaled............6..3..3..27..Mauresmo
.. speedster_ (4)......7..3..4..27..
13.Rtael...............6..3..3..26..Mauresmo
14.WTA Handicapper.....6..3..3..24..Mauresmo
15.sandg (3)...........6..2..4..18..Clijsters
16.K&J fan.............6..1..5..12..Mauresmo


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Final

K.Clijsters (1) vs A.Mauresmo (3)........(7-14)

Rtael
Nov 11th, 2003, 01:54 AM
PAW7: Mauresmo Def. Clijsters

Rtael
Nov 11th, 2003, 01:55 AM
Haha! Almost didn't make it! I kinda gave up after Justine lost, but then I saw how well I could do if I picked Amelie and she managed another upset! Go Amelie! My PAW Ranking is at stake!

nitsansh
Nov 11th, 2003, 02:13 AM
So... Rtael reached the obvious conclusion that he has a lot to gain and nothing to lose if he picks Mauresmo...

If Mauresmo win, as 4 players predicted (though I doubt if any of them really believe that...), Pintaled will climb to 3rd place, Rtael to 4th and WTA Handicapper to 6th, behind petosp. The players ranked 4th to 10th will each drop 3 places, and speedster_ will drop to 14th place, while K&J fan will climb to 15th and relegate sandg to the last place.
If Clijsters win, the only changes will be that Grice will climb from 10th to join Wojtek and Jakub in 6th place, bionic71 and danielrosario will drop one place each to 9th and 10th, and sandg will climb one place to 15th at the expense of WTA Handicapper.

nitsansh
Nov 11th, 2003, 03:06 AM
Final League Table Los Angeles Tour Championships 2003


#. Player..............P..W..L..Pts.Ranking Pts
1. butch...............7..5..2..44..485
2. SpikeyAidanm (2)....7..5..2..43..340
3. petosp (5)..........7..4..3..39..252
4. Buitenzorg..........7..4..3..36..178
.. bbypk (8)...........7..4..3..36..178
6. Wojtek (1)..........7..4..3..35..104
.. Jakub (7)...........7..5..2..35..104
.. Grice...............7..4..3..35..104
9. bionic71............7..4..3..34...37
10.danielrosario (6)...7..4..3..32...37
11.Pintaled............7..3..4..27...37
.. speedster_ (4)......7..3..4..27...37
13.Rtael...............7..3..4..26...37
14.sandg (3)...........7..3..4..25...37
15.WTA Handicapper.....7..3..4..24...37
16.K&J fan.............7..1..6..12...37


Fixtures and Scoring Points

Final

K.Clijsters (1) vs A.Mauresmo (3)........(7-14)

nitsansh
Nov 11th, 2003, 03:17 AM
Year-end ranking is as follows:
1. SpikeyAidanm 2112
2. Wojtek 2010
3. sandg 1711
4. ajayares 1594
5. petosp 1577
6. speedster_ 1529
7. butch 1512
8. bbypk 1378
9. Jakub 1330
10. danielrosario 1317
11. Buitenzorg 1171
12. Grice 1137
13. WTA Handicapper 1078
14. Pintaled 1070
15. Rtael 1060
16. K&J fan 1050
17. bionic71 1035

SpikeyAidanm
Nov 11th, 2003, 04:49 AM
Final League table updated.

Summary to be up shortly.

Congrats butch :wavey: :bigclap:

bbypk
Nov 11th, 2003, 10:49 AM
Congrats butch!! :)