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Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:25 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/03/1064988404199.html

~|Naomi|~
Oct 4th, 2003, 10:46 AM
Well the best thing about that article was she said Kim was her favourite :)

A while ago after Fila signed her the gold coast bulletin had abig article on her and they were making it out that she received rich endorsments financially from Fila - now I find that ridiculous, for exmaple Kim only gets paid by Fila if she is top 8 in the world, so if they aren't willing to pay Kim if for instance she dropped to 9 why the heck would they pay Hopper.

She is incredibly tiny in real life when you see her up close, also saw her practice, and didn't think she was that extraordinary, maybe she had a bad day. Physically I think she is going to have problems later if she goes onto play on the tour, she will be overpowered. And now this is just my perception - but she seems to be running her own ticket box if you know what I mean.

She has an incredible amount of pressure for a 12 year old who realistically hasn't done that much yet.

Yeah I'm not her biggest fan, I just think she gets a lot of attention cause of her last name, whilst others who are just as talented or more talented once again get over looked- I bit unfair I think.

But thanks for the article

Aussie_Kim
Oct 4th, 2003, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the article! Quite interesting.
I guess she is lucky to have had all that help, so long as SHE really wants it. ( I mean she could not have had any more help if she wanted, her Dad has given her everything.)

Personally I would not want that much pressure on me to perform at such a young age.

Anyway I would be happy if she succeeded, after all she is Australian!! Just hope other kids have as much of a chance as her.

nm_cb
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:40 AM
I would say she gets a bit of help by her last name.
But I am going to see her play today as she is in a tournament in Perth, that I am in. So I can tell you guys if she is anything that she is said to be like.
She is playing in 16s. A big ask for a 12 year old, but it will be interesting...

kell
Oct 6th, 2003, 08:28 AM
Hmm...I remember watching Jade on some kind of Current Affairs program a while back. Personally, I think its wrong for a parent to shove a child in a certain direction, and that's what they're doing. I'm sure she's used to her routine now and maybe even enjoys it, but she's gonna look back one day and wonder whatever happened to her childhood.

louloubelle
Oct 6th, 2003, 08:30 AM
Hmm...I remember watching Jade on some kind of Current Affairs program a while back. Personally, I think its wrong for a parent to shove a child in a certain direction, and that's what they're doing. I'm sure she's used to her routine now and maybe even enjoys it, but she's gonna look back one day and wonder whatever happened to her childhood.

Isn't there a younger sister too??

Anyway Im just wondering how a 12 yearold body can cope with such training. When she's 20 she'll feel 40.

kell
Oct 6th, 2003, 08:37 AM
Isn't there a younger sister too??

Anyway Im just wondering how a 12 yearold body can cope with such training. When she's 20 she'll feel 40.

I'm no doctor, but I'm sure you're right.

But of course by the time she does a Hingis and retires still a very young woman, she'll have made a good name for herself and enough money to make mummy and daddy very proud :rolleyes:

I'm not sure about a younger sister...if there is one, she'll probably go through the same thing. Maybe her parents will try and recreate the Williams situation.

One thing I think is interesting is that Jade likes Kim because of her clothes...not technique...hmm...she obviously still thinks like a little girl, which is good to see.

~|Naomi|~
Oct 6th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Yeah there's a younger sister Skye - think she's about 8 or 9

nm_cb
Oct 6th, 2003, 12:09 PM
From memory Skye is 9 or 10 now.
I watched Jade play today....
Not what I expected. She isn't a very powerful player, she is just consistent. Her serve isn't very strong, she could have been tired because she flew in last night/late afternoon from Melbourne, but she would be used to it by now. But everyong at tennis was socked, she wasn't half as good as they thought with all the publicity sorounding her.
If the girl she played played her normal game (she was making mistakes that she wouldn't normaly make) She could have beaten her.
Her next opponent should give her a scare, maybe even beat her.

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 6th, 2003, 12:29 PM
Jade is overated, just like Monique Viele was.

AUSBOY
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:15 PM
She's 12 for crying out loud! You dont have power at that age, its all about consistency!

She's like not even 5 foot yet! 4 foot 5 to be exact I think and as skinny as a rake.

Power doesnt come into girls tennis until 14-15year old. Why do you think Olivia Lukasewicz was whitewashed at this years Australian Open!

At this stage its all about gaining technique, touch and consistency. Also training in mental toughness and diet are important too. It will be at least another 3 years before we will know whether or not Jade has a chance even!

Aussie_Kim
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:17 PM
nm_cb can you tell us how she does in the tournament?? I am curious!! Ta. :kiss:
P.S do you know Wayne or Jeanine Wallis??

And goodluck to you ( you said you were in the comp right!)
You will have to tell us how u go, what age r u competing in?

Vicky88
Oct 6th, 2003, 05:29 PM
I thought the article was interesting from the scientific point of view. Her training has obviously been made taking into account her current size. Reading between the lines, her training will be adapted once her growth spurt starts, with the intent of avoiding physical problems other players who have started really young have had.

She is never going to be a big girl, so consistency and technique, combined with a will to win will have to be her strongest points. Will be interesting to see how she is going in a couple of years.

Vicky88
Oct 6th, 2003, 09:06 PM
Just read in today's Age that Jade was beaten 6-0 6-0 in the final by her double's partner. I hope that whoever her doubles partner is, is also getting appropriate training/funding and that she doesn't slip thru the system because of all the attention being on Jade Hopper.

broncosven
Oct 7th, 2003, 12:27 AM
but then Jade and her doubles partner won the doubles

nm_cb
Oct 7th, 2003, 12:44 AM
Jades doubles partner beat her in the semi finals not the final.
Aussie_Kim - Jade won her first match 1 and 0 but it wasn't convincing. They put her match on centre court. She handled everyone watching her well, her dad was there giving encouragment. But her next match will be interesting.
I am in the 14/u, I lost my first match but it was to a top country player, a lot of power. Next time I should beat her.
I know Jeanine, she is in my penant team this season.
AUSBOY - 2 years ago - when I was 12. I had more power then most. A lot of the 12/u players have a lot of power. Watching the National 12/u a lot of them do have power. Everyone just expected that she would hit hard like a lot of the 12 yea olds in W.A

rusty_red_head
Oct 7th, 2003, 01:54 AM
maybe Jade uses her brain !!!

Lots of palyers don't do this now!

She might be a martina Hingis!!!

kell
Oct 7th, 2003, 05:52 AM
maybe Jade uses her brain !!!

Lots of palyers don't do this now!

She might be a martina Hingis!!!

That's what I said...meaning that she'll retire early as well after been burnt out.

A child should not be an experiment in physcial science.

azza
Oct 7th, 2003, 02:07 PM
6-0 6-0 :eek:

nm_cb
Oct 10th, 2003, 09:57 AM
Jade won her Second match at the tournament in W.A, I didn't see that match so I can't comment. I think the score was something like 4 and 2.
She lost her next match (semi) to the number 2 see, 2 and 2. Noboddy really expected her to beat the number two seed here.
In the doubles she is into the final, winning the last two rounds in a super tie-break.

azza
Oct 10th, 2003, 12:09 PM
Go jade :)

~|Naomi|~
Oct 10th, 2003, 03:47 PM
What was Jade seeded in WA?

nm_cb
Oct 11th, 2003, 01:57 AM
Jade was seeded #4, behind Lia Tapper(w/d injured), Jessica Gallimore and Marisa Gianotti.
Jade and Jessica Chaine won the 16/u doubles - 3 and 3.

~|Naomi|~
Oct 11th, 2003, 02:16 PM
Jade was seeded #4, behind Lia Tapper(w/d injured), Jessica Gallimore and Marisa Gianotti.
Jade and Jessica Chaine won the 16/u doubles - 3 and 3.

thanks for that :)

ozfan44
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:25 AM
i seen jade play a few of her matches she was a bit erratic but did hit a few winners however was totally outclassed in the semis by jessica gallimore.

Fantastic
Oct 14th, 2003, 05:18 PM
Jade ain't no Martina Hingis - at 12, Martina was winning junior Grand Slams and beating all the 18-year-olds and everyone else in-between. Even Gavin admitted that Jade was no prodigy. She's getting the results and is where she is because she works hard at it. Not to say that prodigies like Martina didn't work hard to get what she got, but it seems to me right now that Jade is doing an extraordinary amount of training compared even to Hingis, who was never allowed to hit for more than two hours a day until she was fifteen.

Did anyone in Perth seriously expect a pipsqueak twelve-year-old to be bashing balls about? Even when they showed her on TV, she was struggling to hit that ball over the net with any real power. It was all gangly motions and more about stroke production than power. Kids who develop earlier also tend to fade earlier. It's the old adage, "the bigger they are, the harder they fall". So it's not all bad that Jade hasn't got much power yet. She'll gain that as her body develops and she matures. Of course, Martina Hingis also expected to become stronger as she got older. She did get stronger but genetics played a part in her not developing into the Amazon her mother prayed she'd be.