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Nir
Oct 4th, 2003, 12:57 PM
PAW13: Myskina over Pistolesi

nitsansh
Oct 4th, 2003, 12:58 PM
Commentary continues...

After the "surprise" win (not for me...) of Mauresmo, the race is still open.
Only 3 contenders are left in the race for the title, and after K&J fan has placed the obvious bet on Pistolesi, if she wins against Myskina he will take the lead. But in that case, firefly_ac will still be in contention as well, as in this situation he'll be 12 points behind K&J fan and one pick still remaining, and we should expect that Pistolesi will get at least 12 points if she wins the final against Mauresmo.
If Myskina wins, butch takes the title.

The game is about to start, and I am anxious to see it live on Eurosport...
Anna Pistolesi is on the brink of the greatest achievement in her carreer... as far as my knowledge goes, she never reached the final in a tier1 tournament!

nitsansh
Oct 4th, 2003, 01:14 PM
Also... if Pistolesi wins, Edman will move to 4th and nitsansh to 6th.
If Myskina wins, zorgzamesnip will be 4th and Nir 5th.
Silent140 and firefly_ac are the only players in the top 13 that saved their last pick for the final.

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 4th, 2003, 02:53 PM
League Table (Updated after Semis)

1 . butch...................... .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 ..108
2 . K&J fan.................... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 93
3 . silent140.................. .. 12 .. 8 .. 4 .. 87
4 . Elisse..................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 82
. . zorgzamesnip............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 82
6 . firefly_ac................. .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 81
7 . Nir........................ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 80
8 . matija-seles............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 79
9 . Edman...................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 78
10 . RyanGiggs................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 76
11 . bbypk (6)................. .. 12 .. 7 .. 5 .. 73
12 . nitsansh.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 72
.. . bartektrz................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 72
14 . ntohir.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . polishprodigy............. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
16 . Buitenzorg (8)............ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 68
17 . !.Steven.!................ .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 67
18 . ghosts.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 65
.. . WTA Handicapper (5)....... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 65
20 . oren987................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 64
21 . Pintaled.................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 63
.. . chill1533................. .. 12 .. 8 .. 4 .. 63
23 . SpikeyAidanm (4).......... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 61
.. . Hantuchov................. .. 11 .. 5 .. 6 .. 61
25 . ktwtennis................. .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 60
26 . j_dementieva27............ .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 58
.. . sandg (2)................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 58
.. . Hardiansf................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 58
29 . danielrosario (3)......... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 57
30 . croat123.................. .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 55
31 . Lee-Waters' Boy........... .. 11 .. 5 .. 6 .. 54
32 . caramel................... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 53
33 . raquel.................... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 52
34 . aussiefan83............... .. 12 .. 7 .. 5 .. 49
35 . MonicaSelesFan2........... .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 44
.. . saab95.................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 44
37 . Mashy..................... .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 43
38 . Wojtek (1)................ .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 35
39 . Froosters (WC)............ .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 34
40 . twight6................... .. 12 .. 3 .. 9 .. 33
41 . Rtael..................... .. .9 .. 2 .. 7 .. 29
42 . Jeff...................... .. .9 .. 3 .. 6 .. 26
43 . dario88................... .. .8 .. 3 .. 5 .. 25
44 . ns_Henin.................. .. 13 .. 3 ..10 .. 23
45 . henenport................. .. .1 .. 1 .. 0 .. 17
.. . switz..................... .. .3 .. 1 .. 2 .. 17
47 . petosp (7)................ .. .7 .. 2 .. 5 .. 13

Lee-Waters' Boy
Oct 4th, 2003, 03:22 PM
paw12: myskina over mauresmo

nitsansh
Oct 4th, 2003, 03:40 PM
Commentary:

So, Myskina's one-sided victory over Pistolesi (although it was a bit harder than the 6-2 6-0 score suggests), has crowned butch as the winner of PAW's Kremlin Cup title and the 275 ranking points that goes with it (unfortunately, he won't take the $$$...).
But the race for runner-up and places further down is not over yet. As you all know, there are important ranking points at stake for every place down to 28th...

Only a few players have left their last pick for the final between Mauresmo and Myskina. In the top 20, those are #3 silent140, #6 firefly_ac, #11 bbypk and #17 !.Steven.!
Let's see how high they can get...
silent140 will overtake K&J fan as runner up if he choose the winner of the final, no matter if he gets 9 pts for Mauresmo or 11 pts for Myskina.
firefly_ac can take the 3rd spot if he makes the right choice while silent140 doesn't.
bbypk can go to 4th or 5th (depending on firefly_ac's score) if he chooses the winner.
!.Steven.! can get as high as 9th or 10th (or 11th if bbypk also wins).
Other players ranked further down who saved their last pick for the final can move about 10 places upward with win in their last pick.

Finally... the debutant who writes this comment, allthough dissapointed he lost his last pick, is still satisfied with his score. nitsansh will finish between 12th and 14th. Next week in Filderstadt he'll have a number next to his name rather than NR and no longer write "PAW debutant at Moscow" in his signature...

butch
Oct 4th, 2003, 03:49 PM
Thanx Nitsansh for the reports! And I won!! Yippee!!

K&J fan
Oct 4th, 2003, 05:13 PM
Thanx Nitsansh for the reports! And I won!! Yippee!!


congrats, Butch

a deserved win ;) :wavey:

firefly_ac
Oct 4th, 2003, 05:18 PM
I think it more that justify my 17th seeding.. Lost sight of the title 4 a fair number of times.. :sad: Guess my goal for this yr is to break the top 20..Gotta focus on tt!! Hee..

firefly_ac
Oct 4th, 2003, 05:22 PM
Nitsansh...
Maybe you can mention the defending champion being unable to defend his title..Hee...

croat123
Oct 4th, 2003, 05:57 PM
oh boy, if i pick right, i get points for this tournament, if i pick wrong, i'll get a 0.........

PAW 13: Myskina over Mauresmo, she played a bit better than Amelie today, but it is a toss-up!

raquel
Oct 4th, 2003, 06:33 PM
PAW 13 : Mauresmo over Myskina

j_dementieva27
Oct 4th, 2003, 10:07 PM
FINAL PAW 13-- Myskina (4) over Mauresmo (2)

thanks spikey

KoOlMaNsEaN
Oct 4th, 2003, 10:48 PM
p13 Myskina over Mauresmo

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 12:26 AM
Nitsansh...
Maybe you can mention the defending champion being unable to defend his title..Hee...

Yes, I should have mentioned that...

danielrosario, the winner at Moscow last year, is going to suffer a massive slump in his world ranking as a result of a very poor performance this year. He will lose all the 275 points he won last year, as he failed to score even a single point this time.
He is ranked in 29th place and has no picks left.

His only comfort might be that the top seed Wojtek (and also world #1, I suppose) did even more miserably. He will finish no better than 38th.
2nd seed sandg had a poor tournament as well. He is currently ranked 26th and may slide outside the points if a few players further back score in their last pick.
Speaking of seeds... #6 bbypk will surely finish top among the seeds even if he loses his last pick.
#4 SpikeyAidanm is the only other seed with a pick in hand but he can only get to 72 pts while bbypk has 73.

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Commentary continues:

17th place !.Steven.! has just posted his final pick.
Like most of the PAWers who placed their bet for the final so far, he chose Myskina over Mauresmo, and if the Russian wins, he'll get to 78 pts and tie with Edman in 9th place.
The top 3 players with a pick in hand have not yet announced their last bet.
4 other players have also picked Myskina, and their projected scores if she wins are as follows:
Hantuchov 72 pts (13th place)
j_dementieva 69 pts (16th place)
croat123 66 pts (21st place)
Lee-Water' Boys 65 pts (22nd place)
Only one player has opted for Mauresmo in the final so far, and if the Frenchwoman wins, raquel will move up to 23rd place with 61 pts.

We still wait for picks of silent140, firefly_ac, bbypk, chill1533, SpikeyAidanm, ktwtennis, caramel and aussiefan83, who is the lowest ranked player (34th) who has chance to get world ranking points in this tournament.

silent140
Oct 5th, 2003, 02:21 AM
PAW13: Myskina def. Mauresmo

ktwtennis
Oct 5th, 2003, 02:31 AM
PAW13: Mauresmo over Myskina

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 5th, 2003, 03:11 AM
PAW13: MAURESMO over Myskina

Rtael
Oct 5th, 2003, 03:12 AM
PAW10: Myskina Def. Mauresmo

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 03:28 AM
Some more picks were made since the last commentary.
silent140 has opted for Myskina in his attempt to improve his ranking from 3rd to 2nd.
SpikeyAidanm and ktwtennis both chose Mauresmo, and they can climb, if that pick is a winner, to 14th and 15th place respectively.

bbypk
Oct 5th, 2003, 03:51 AM
Paw 13 : A.Myskina (4) def. A.Mauresmo

aussiefan83
Oct 5th, 2003, 04:02 AM
PAW13 Mauresmo over Myskina

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 06:55 AM
bbypk has submitted a bid for Myskina.
He doesn't want to share 4th place with Elisse and zorgzamesnip, he wants it alone!!
OTOH, it seems that ausiefan83 likes company. If Mauresmo wins, he'll be in a 4-way tie with j_dementieva27, sandg and Hardiansf, all on 58 pts.

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 07:11 AM
There are several players who have yet to make their last picks.
In order to help them make this decision, let's see how the standing will be if each player wins.
(table updated to add firefly_ac and chill1533 picks)
If Mauresmo wins:
1 . butch...................... .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 ..108
2 . K&J fan.................... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 93
3 . firefly_ac................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 90
4 . silent140.................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 87
5 . Elisse..................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 82
. . zorgzamesnip............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 82
7 . Nir........................ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 80
8 . matija-seles............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 79
9 . Edman...................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 78
10 . RyanGiggs................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 76
11 . bbypk (6)................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 73
12 . nitsansh.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 72
.. . bartektrz................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 72
14 . SpikeyAidanm (4).......... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 70
15 . ntohir.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . polishprodigy............. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . ktwtennis................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 69
18 . Buitenzorg (8)............ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 68
19 . !.Steven.!................ .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 67
20 . ghosts.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 65
.. . WTA Handicapper (5)....... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 65
22 . oren987................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 64
23 . Pintaled.................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 63
.. . chill1533................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 63
.. . Hantuchov................. .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 61
26 . raquel.................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 61
27 . j_dementieva27............ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 58
.. . sandg (2)................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 58
.. . Hardiansf................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 58
.. . aussiefan83............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 58
31 . danielrosario (3)......... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 57
32 . croat123.................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 55
33 . Lee-Waters' Boy........... .. 12 .. 5 .. 7 .. 54
34 . caramel................... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 53

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 07:21 AM
and if Myskina wins:
(table updated to add firefly_ac and chill1533 picks)
1 . butch...................... .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 ..108
2 . silent140.................. .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 .. 98
3 . K&J fan.................... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 93
4 . bbypk (6)................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 84
5 . Elisse..................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 82
. . zorgzamesnip............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 82
7 . firefly_ac................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 81
8 . Nir........................ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 80
9 . matija-seles............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 79
10. Edman...................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 78
.. . !.Steven.!................ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 78
12 . RyanGiggs................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 76
13 . chill1533................. .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 .. 74
14 . nitsansh.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 72
.. . bartektrz................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 72
.. . Hantuchov................. .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 72
17 . ntohir.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . polishprodigy............. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . j_dementieva27............ .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
20 . Buitenzorg (8)............ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 68
21 . croat123.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 66
22 . ghosts.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 65
.. . WTA Handicapper (5)....... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 65
.. . Lee-Waters' Boy........... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 65
25 . oren987................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 64
26 . Pintaled.................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 63
27 . SpikeyAidanm (4).......... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 61
28 . ktwtennis................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 60
29 . sandg (2)................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 58
.. . Hardiansf................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 58
31 . danielrosario (3)......... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 57
32 . caramel................... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 53
33 . raquel.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 52
34 . aussiefan83............... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 49

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 07:33 AM
Appologize to players ranked lower than 34. They were excluded from these tables because they have no chance to get world ranking points.

firefly_ac
Oct 5th, 2003, 07:37 AM
PAW13:Mauresmo over Myskina

chill1533
Oct 5th, 2003, 07:47 AM
Last pick!
paw 13. Anastasia Myskina over Amelie Mauresmo

Take Man-mauresmo down Anastasia!!! :bounce:

azza
Oct 5th, 2003, 08:13 AM
Paw 1 Mauresmo Over Myskina :p

Im a bit late eh?

nitsansh
Oct 5th, 2003, 10:29 AM
It's all set for the final then...

What the results of the match mean as far as PAW is concerned you can see in the tables above.
Check them when the game is over to find your final position.

Jeff
Oct 5th, 2003, 10:31 AM
PAW 10: Myskina def. Mauresmo

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 5th, 2003, 12:13 PM
FINAL Moscow League Table

1 . butch...................... .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 ..108
2 . silent140.................. .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 .. 98
3 . K&J fan.................... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 93
4 . bbypk (6).................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 84
5 . Elisse..................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 82
. . zorgzamesnip............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 82
7 . firefly_ac ................ .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 81
8 . Nir........................ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 80
9 . matija-seles............... .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 79
10 . !.Steven.!................ .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 78
.. . Edman .................... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 78
12 . RyanGiggs................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 76
13 . chill1533................. .. 13 .. 9 .. 4 .. 74
14 . Hantuchov................. .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 72
.. . nitsansh.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 72
.. . bartektrz................. .. 13 .. 8 .. 5 .. 72
17 . j_dementieva27............ .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . ntohir.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
.. . polishprodigy............. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69
20 . Buitenzorg (8)............ .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 68
21 . croat123.................. .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 66
22 . Lee-Waters' Boy........... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 65
.. . ghosts.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 65
.. . WTA Handicapper (5)....... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 65
25 . oren987................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 64
26 . Pintaled.................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 63
27 . SpikeyAidanm (4).......... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 61
28 . ktwtennis................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 60
29 . sandg (2)................. .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 58
.. . Hardiansf................. .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 58
31 . danielrosario (3)......... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 57
32 . caramel................... .. 12 .. 6 .. 6 .. 53
33 . raquel.................... .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 52
34 . aussiefan83............... .. 13 .. 7 .. 6 .. 49
35 . MonicaSelesFan2........... .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 44
.. . saab95.................... .. 13 .. 5 .. 8 .. 44
37 . Mashy..................... .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 43
38 . Rtael..................... .. 10 .. 3 .. 7 .. 40
39 . Jeff...................... .. 10 .. 4 .. 6 .. 37
40 . Wojtek (1)................ .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 35
41 . Froosters (WC)............ .. 13 .. 4 .. 9 .. 34
42 . twight6................... .. 12 .. 3 .. 9 .. 33
43 . dario88................... .. .8 .. 3 .. 5 .. 25
44 . ns_Henin.................. .. 13 .. 3 ..10 .. 23
45 . henenport................. .. .1 .. 1 .. 0 .. 17
.. . switz..................... .. .3 .. 1 .. 2 .. 17
47 . petosp (7)................ .. .7 .. 2 .. 5 .. 13
48 . azza...................... .. .1 .. 0 .. 1 .. .0

SpikeyAidanm
Oct 5th, 2003, 12:15 PM
Congrats butch, on your second title :yeah: :bigclap:

bbypk
Oct 5th, 2003, 01:37 PM
bbypk has submitted a bid for Myskina.
He doesn't want to share 4th place with Elisse and zorgzamesnip, he wants it alone!!



LOL!!!! YES!! I want my 4th place!! :D :devil:

azza
Oct 5th, 2003, 01:40 PM
48 . azza...................... .. .1 .. 0 .. 1 .. .0

:bigclap:

j_dementieva27
Oct 5th, 2003, 02:53 PM
17 . j_dementieva27............ .. 13 .. 6 .. 7 .. 69

i didnt think i would finish that high, i did not play well this week at all... esp after i almost reached the quarters last week... oh well ill work my ass off at filderstat

congrats butch... i knew you were gunna win

and thanks spikey

WTA Handicapper
Oct 6th, 2003, 01:24 PM
Well played Butch
WTA Handicapper