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tazban1
Sep 23rd, 2003, 05:55 AM
I have 2 month old kittens. They're grabbers with their claws and like to climb up clothes, but I don't think I can let them go through the de-clawing process after all I've read about it. My parents' four cats have been de-clawed. Honestly, the thing I'm most afraid of is if they become like Duff, who doesn't seem to know that she's de-clawed and picks fights with every stray cat she can find.

Rothes
Sep 23rd, 2003, 05:59 AM
We used to have an old lounge-suite, Not a very good mix with energetic kittens clawing the sides of them and absolutley wrecking them.

Have you ever thought of getting a Cat scratcher pole? They didn't work well for our two but it did provide a alternative as to suposing clothes and the lounge-suite.

I geuss this is like a herbal mixture, but if your Kittens claw un-mobile objects such as the table, furniture, try putting pepper around, it doesn't smell and Kittens/Cats usually don't go near it.

tazban1
Sep 23rd, 2003, 06:07 AM
I have one of those scratching posts with the levels and the toy hanging off it. It's fun to watch them play on it, but I don't really know how to train them to use it. The best I've come up with is moving them to it when they start scratching. I figure my furniture is all used anyways so its not like it's priceless and before I got them I was resigned to the idea that my satin sheets were going to get shredded. Actually, they're a lot better than I thought they were going to be.

I'm thinking about getting those nail cap things, but those still concern me because they still won't be able to defend themselves if they get out somehow.

Also, I've read several bad things about the de-clawing thing, but this is probably what sealed the deal for me:

(I didn't realize that the complication risks were so high)

50 percent had one or more complications immediately after surgery, such as pain, hemorrhage, lameness, swelling, and non-weight bearing. Of the 121 cats whose progress was followed after surgery, 20 percent had continued complications, such as infection, regrowth, bone protrusion into the pad of the paw and prolonged intermittent lameness and palmagrade stance (abnormal standing posture).

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/declaw.html


Also, from Dr. Nicholas Dodman:
The inhumanity of the procedure is clearly demonstrated by the nature of cats' recovery from anesthesia following the surgery. Unlike routine recoveries, including recovery from neutering surgeries, which are fairly peaceful, declawing surgery results in cats bouncing off the walls of the recovery cage because of excruciating pain. -- Declawing fits the dictionary definition of mutilation to a tee. Words such as deform, disfigure, disjoint, and dismember all apply to this surgery. Partial digital amputation is so horrible that it has been employed for torture of prisoners of war

Sam L
Sep 23rd, 2003, 06:15 AM
I haven't declawed my cat and don't plan to.

I think maybe just trim it a little so it can grow back?

controlfreak
Sep 23rd, 2003, 10:24 AM
Our cat has never been declawed. Just make them do it on a scratching post or on a tree outside. It's a natural process which is programmed into the cat from birth.

Colin B
Sep 23rd, 2003, 10:35 AM
De-clawing a cat? OMG, how barbaric; I've never heard of anyone doing a cruel thing like that! It's like removing all the teeth from a dog in case it bites you!
Once they're big enough to go outside, they usually stop clawing stuff in your house.

R&J
Sep 24th, 2003, 03:59 AM
No way - we would never do that to our cats (Even though they ignore the scratching post and use our couch instead :rolleyes: ).

~CANUCK~
Sep 24th, 2003, 04:07 AM
both my cats are de-clawed...but we never let them go outside..they are house cats...my only advice is if you are gonna do...do it while the cats are young..we de-clawed one of my cats when she was like 6 months old and now she has this problem with people touching her paws...i think we put her throw some traumatic experince...but my other cat is fine..she had her claws taken out at like 1 month old

ys
Sep 24th, 2003, 04:12 AM
Our cat at Russian Roulette has been declawed long time ago...

Cariaoke
Sep 24th, 2003, 12:05 PM
I adopted a declawed cat and it was very sad. If she had an itch, she couldn't scratch it. She wouldn't let me touch her paws. She was deaf which added to her trauma. I felt bad for her because it's very instinctual for cats to use their claws just like we use our nails. She'd do the motions of sharpening her claws but there were none.

I have two 3 year old cats, now, and they do like to sharpen their claws on this one particular rug I have but luckily not on the furniture. Scratches are a pain and clipping nails can be a chore but they're together in the head, most of the time. ;)

Martian Willow
Sep 24th, 2003, 12:10 PM
...no... :)

Greenout
Sep 24th, 2003, 12:43 PM
My cat is not declawed. I don't think it's
that important. Besides it looks kind of painful.

Mase
Sep 24th, 2003, 01:17 PM
I would never do it. Poor kitties...........I couldnt imagine, lets say they accidentley get outside or whatever, they wouldnt be able to defend themselves.... My brother has 2 cats, one has claws and one doent. He says the poor declawed cat plays with the other cat and get his ass whopped because he cant use claws or anything so he cant scare the other cat.... Just not cool, your cats should be more important to you than any material things, if not then maybe those people shouldnt be cat/pet owners.

GBFH
Sep 24th, 2003, 01:19 PM
no, that's so mean.

i may hate getting scratched every once in a while, but it's no reason to get them de-clawed.

CondiLicious
Sep 24th, 2003, 01:51 PM
I have 3 cats. 2 of them are really good and don't wreck things but the other one she likes to claw everything. She's ruined most of the furniture. She's a nightmare but I'd never have her declawed. It's cruel.

fifiricci
Sep 24th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Dont interfere with your pussy! :lol:

:cat:

CondiLicious
Sep 24th, 2003, 02:32 PM
Dont interfere with your pussy! :lol:

:cat:

That's right! Play with it instead!

Cariaoke
Sep 24th, 2003, 02:40 PM
No, pussies are for petting. :haha:

griffin
Sep 24th, 2003, 05:37 PM
purrrr....

Declawing is probably better than having them abandonned or put down (which people have been known to do), but do keep in mind that declawing a cat is like you having your finger tips cut off after the last joint.

They're kittens - they'll probably become less interested in climbing as they grow older, and a water pistol or squirt bottle will help break them of the habit even faster. Just give them a quick squirt the second they start to climb something (they won't like it getting squirted, but it doesn't hurt them). And I think you're on the right track by moving them to the scratching post when they start clawing - they'll get the hint.

Barrie_Dude
Sep 24th, 2003, 06:00 PM
My cats are not declawed as they like to play in the yard and they need the ability to defend themselves. I do not recommend cat declaweing as even an inside cat will get out from time to time. I do, however, recommend a scratching post and regular trimming of claws

Mase
Sep 24th, 2003, 06:10 PM
They make some really cool clippers for cats as well, I wouldnt recommend using human clippers, you can really damage the cats nails that way, and you can over clip them... get them from your local pet store, maybe like 5 bucks but if you cut them yoursleves, you'll save yourself about 10 bucks by not bringing them to the vet to do so......

Barrie_Dude
Sep 24th, 2003, 06:13 PM
They make some really cool clippers for cats as well, I wouldnt recommend using human clippers, you can really damage the cats nails that way, and you can over clip them... get them from your local pet store, maybe like 5 bucks but if you cut them yoursleves, you'll save yourself about 10 bucks by not bringing them to the vet to do so......But you need to have someone show you how to clip them, first! You do not want to cut the quick!!!!!!!!

Mase
Sep 24th, 2003, 06:54 PM
No your right Barrie, but you can tell the difference in color between the nails and the quick or whatever...... definitley look carefully before cutting!

Barrie_Dude
Sep 24th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Thank You! ;)

Rocketta
Sep 24th, 2003, 10:15 PM
My 3 have their claws. You wouldn't believe the people who have their cat declawed then put them out....:fiery:

Sam L
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:02 AM
There is a whole other side to this argument.

I'm not sure in other countries but in Australia, there is a huge problem of feral cats (or house cats) that get out and kill a lot of wild animals. We lose thousands and thousands of native animals because of this. And many of those endangered like possums and other marsupials. The only real solution is that people keep their pets inside but we all know this doesn't happen. And a bigger problem is that so many Australians live near the bush. I'm guessing, maybe declawing at least saves some of these native animals? No? I know of course this isn't the solution and I'm not even suggesting it, but maybe it helps a little. And maybe that's the positive side of declawing? :confused:

Rocketta
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:48 AM
There is a whole other side to this argument.

I'm not sure in other countries but in Australia, there is a huge problem of feral cats (or house cats) that get out and kill a lot of wild animals. We lose thousands and thousands of native animals because of this. And many of those endangered like possums and other marsupials. The only real solution is that people keep their pets inside but we all know this doesn't happen. And a bigger problem is that so many Australians live near the bush. I'm guessing, maybe declawing at least saves some of these native animals? No? I know of course this isn't the solution and I'm not even suggesting it, but maybe it helps a little. And maybe that's the positive side of declawing? :confused:


um I can ship you some Possums if you need they are a dime a dozen here....:o

Oh and I seriously doubt a cat can kill a possum. Those suckers are close to 20 lbs with razor sharp teeth...

Those are some ugly s.o.b.'s.....

btw, I come home to a possum in my yard staring my chihuahua down quite frequently...:)

Sam L
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:57 AM
um I can ship you some Possums if you need they are a dime a dozen here....:o

Oh and I seriously doubt a cat can kill a possum. Those suckers are close to 20 lbs with razor sharp teeth...

Those are some ugly s.o.b.'s.....

btw, I come home to a possum in my yard staring my chihuahua down quite frequently...:)
Hey Rocketta, our possums as with all our other animals are special. They're not the same as the ones that be found over the states and Europe etc... We're special! ;)

decemberlove
Sep 25th, 2003, 01:00 AM
yeah rockie, australia has the lil bitch version of a possum. cos you and i know damn well a cat here could never take out a possum in the states ... those things are nasty. :devil:

Rocketta
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:01 AM
ewww, *getting the willies* Nasty does not describe them DL..

griffin
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:54 PM
cos you and i know damn well a cat here could never take out a possum in the states ... those things are nasty. :devil:

You never met our first cat Tigger ;)

Sam, who's going to cough up to declaw feral cats? An agressive spay/neuter progam might be a better investment (fewer feral hunters in the long run)

Sammm
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:04 PM
Don't declaw your cats! What if you get robbed? Your cat won't be able to bite the robber of defend itself.
DONT DO IT!!!!!

SJW
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:09 PM
No, pussies are for petting. :haha:

pet mine please, thanks :tape:

Sam L
Sep 25th, 2003, 11:59 PM
You never met our first cat Tigger ;)

Sam, who's going to cough up to declaw feral cats? An agressive spay/neuter progam might be a better investment (fewer feral hunters in the long run)
No griffin, that's what I was suggesting. That's horrible! :o What I mean is at least maybe a little positive sidenote to this declawing is that less native animals get killed. That's all.