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CC
Sep 21st, 2003, 06:35 PM
Sweden is getting it real good.

It's half-time and USA leads 2-0.

:)

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 21st, 2003, 08:18 PM
norway *muahahahhaahh* :bounce:

Steam
Sep 21st, 2003, 08:24 PM
What is this, 1999? We've been here before and saw how it ended. Do we really need to see it again.

CC
Sep 21st, 2003, 10:41 PM
USA ended up winning 3-1. They are playing very well, but I don't think it's a given they'll win the whole thing again.

Tammy
Sep 21st, 2003, 10:45 PM
USA ended up winning 3-1. They are playing very well, but I don't think it's a given they'll win the whole thing again.
yeah.. if they continue to play well they do have a shot, but norway also has a very good chance to take the title..

polishprodigy
Sep 22nd, 2003, 02:13 AM
Canada sucks in this tournament and the whole tournament is quite predictable. I'll opt out.

M2k
Sep 22nd, 2003, 02:34 AM
:D :D YES!!!!!!! World Cup is back in US :cool: I am sure buying me some tickets :bounce: :bounce:

alexusjonesfan
Sep 22nd, 2003, 02:39 AM
Canada sucks in this tournament and the whole tournament is quite predictable. I'll opt out.

hey, Canada's got a better shot this time around than in 1999...lookout world for 20 year old phenom Christine Sinclair.

btw, M2k, I'm glad the world cup is in my timezone but the only reason it's in the USA is because of the SARS fiasco :sad:

Ted of Teds Tennis
Sep 22nd, 2003, 03:57 AM
I thought the Australia/Russia match was pretty good, although it was a bit of a heartbreaker for the Aussies.

azza
Sep 22nd, 2003, 03:58 AM
What Sport Is This?

alexusjonesfan
Sep 22nd, 2003, 04:10 AM
What Sport Is This?

World Cup Soccer! :p

actually, it's World Cup Football, but nevertheless...

adss
Sep 22nd, 2003, 04:29 AM
canada's had a pretty good chance. the game against germany downed their chances a bit, but they were always the darkhorse of this tournment and canada's only going to get better in the future

Joana
Sep 22nd, 2003, 11:17 AM
Goooooo Norway!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

propi
Sep 22nd, 2003, 11:58 AM
Do you know the qualified teams???
If not, is there a web site where I can look around???
Not a big football fan though :)

Kuilli
Sep 22nd, 2003, 12:10 PM
Do you know the qualified teams???
If not, is there a web site where I can look around???
Here's one:
http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/03/en/index.html

propi
Sep 22nd, 2003, 12:11 PM
Thanks Kuilli :D

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 22nd, 2003, 05:56 PM
the match between brazil and south korea was pretty :o .... but S Korea didn't play a bad match. the asian teams, especially Japan all have chances to get into the quaterfinals.

i just heard that Brandi Chastain (sp) is injured and wont play the rest of the group matches?

:bounce: Norway!!

CC
Sep 22nd, 2003, 06:01 PM
Yes, she broke a bone in her right foot. She got "cleated" as they say.

ys
Sep 22nd, 2003, 06:06 PM
Women's football is not watchable.. Nonetheless, go Russia..:devil:

*Bubbles*
Sep 23rd, 2003, 01:48 PM
Women's football is not watchable.. Nonetheless, go Russia..:devil:
why not? :confused:

Go USA! :bounce:
Go Norway! :bounce:
Go Sweden! :bounce:

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 23rd, 2003, 07:19 PM
Dream final: USA vs. Norway :cool:

*muahhahahhahahahah* hopes for a repeat of Olympics 2000 :bounce:

norway against brazil tomorrow - wonder if mrs. Ronaldo will play :lol:

kiwifan
Sep 23rd, 2003, 07:32 PM
Dream final: USA vs. Norway :cool:

*muahhahahhahahahah* hopes for a repeat of Olympics 2000 :bounce:

norway against brazil tomorrow - wonder if mrs. Ronaldo will play :lol:

Our blonde midget keeper screwed up in the Olympics and luckily she'll be where she belongs in this Cup...

...at the end of the bench while Brianna and the girls take care of business.

Abby W. and Mia H. are just too much for anyone, even their "#1 rivals", Norway.

A lot of people in the states think China is the main rival but the girls hate Norway more than any other team ever.

They all say (the vets who've been around) that all they ever have to think about is that goofy little "team crawl" Norway took after beating them back in '95 and they see
:fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

Anyway, hope you get 1/2 your wish, Norway in the finals, but it will end ugly.

USA 5 Norway 1 (and it will be a lucky goal in garbage time :devil: )

Cheers :cool:

CC
Sep 23rd, 2003, 07:35 PM
I love Abby Wambach --- she may eventually trump Mia Hamm as my fave.

I like the way Cindy plays too --- she's good in the air, but I like to watch her when the ball is at her feet.

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 23rd, 2003, 07:39 PM
we'll see, we'll see :lol:
why hate huh? poor american players who can't let things go eh? 1995 - 8 years ago.

can't just leave it all to Abby, Mia and Brianna. each team have 11 players and the ball is round - anything can happen :p

kiwifan
Sep 23rd, 2003, 08:19 PM
we'll see, we'll see :lol:
why hate huh? poor american players who can't let things go eh? 1995 - 8 years ago.

can't just leave it all to Abby, Mia and Brianna. each team have 11 players and the ball is round - anything can happen :p

Yep, can't let things go.

Its a good trait in sports. :devil:

Make victory sweeter, defeat more painful and the whole game more exciting.

I was trying not to let the cat out of the bag, but Boxx, Lilly, Parlow (who all scored on Sweden) aren't too bad either. It's Julie Foudy and Brianna who have the most "feelings" towards Norway. I'm a little worried about the defense (think they got a couple of better players on the bench) but it should all work out well for the Red, White and Blue.

It should be a lot of fun if they face each other - ;)

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 23rd, 2003, 08:34 PM
whenif USA and Norway play each other, we should watch it together :banana:

kiwifan
Sep 23rd, 2003, 08:52 PM
whenif USA and Norway play each other, we should watch it together :banana:

Are you coming to the states or are you referring to continuing this wonderful dialogue on-line during the competition.

If its on-line, I don't want you claiming computer failure at halftime (when its USA 3 - Norway 0 ). I want you to experience my thrill of victory and I want to feel your agony of defeat :lol:

Alright I have to stop posting, now :p

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 23rd, 2003, 08:59 PM
don't worry, i wont claim "computer failure". I just wanna enjoy a good match, and hopefully see you eat your words :p
if norway lose, i will be disappointed, but since i'm not a sore loser, i wont throw a fit. if usa lose, then it's gonna be a lot of fun for you. *copies your posts so i can quote you later* :p

CC
Sep 24th, 2003, 08:37 PM
Norway v. Brazil is being shown on TV in about an hour. Unfortunately in my office at work I only get ESPN and this match is on ESPN2.

Sucks for me.

Anybody nervous? :devil:

By the time I get home I might be lucky to catch the last 30 minutes.

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Sep 24th, 2003, 09:54 PM
it starts in 10 mins :bounce: :yipee:
norwegian tv asked mrs. Ronaldo a couple of questions today.... she really is a barbie huh??

if the norwegian defence work, and can keep an eye on Katie, then we should win.

Heia norge.. heia norge........ :D

Tammy
Sep 24th, 2003, 11:33 PM
*cough* *cough*

.. it seems to me that they're getting spanked!!!! ;):angel: .. hmm if they wanna even compete with the us they better step up :p

CC
Sep 24th, 2003, 11:33 PM
It might be time for an official "Oh no."

It's 4-1 and Norway looks dejected. :tape:

Tammy
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:02 AM
ouch!!!! final 1 -4 :awww::ras::shrug:

..hmm and not to mention - way too many fouls by norway :o

Serendy Willick
Sep 25th, 2003, 01:09 AM
Uhm, I'm not trying to sound unpatriotic or anything (GO USA!) buy why in the heck for the second consectutive time has this event been held in the US? I know the SARS outbreak prevented China, but they could've had it somewhere else. Plus, I hope for the love of god that these girls get a better trophy than 99.

~CANUCK~
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:41 AM
canada won 3-0 :woohoo:

Hawk
Sep 25th, 2003, 05:36 AM
canada won 3-0 :woohoo:

:bigclap: :bounce: :bigclap:

But they played like crap :o Canada is really gonna have to pick it up against Japan if they want to advance to the Quarters.

Latham :worship: She saved the day!..once with the help of a nice cross from my fav girl Lang ;)

snoop
Sep 25th, 2003, 11:00 AM
Germany - Japan 3-0 :banana:
Watch out for them :bigclap:


btw, I played with one of the german girls in my youth team. She was the only girl but one of our best players ;)
Go Nia :yeah:

controlfreak
Sep 25th, 2003, 11:42 AM
Hmmm, this women's football thing is just about watchable, but it's hardly skilful. Most of them are actually pretty good at dribbling, but the rest of the time, they're just hoofing long balls, passing straight to the other team, running away from the spaces they should be running into, miscontrolling the ball, missing the ball completely, or scuffing their shots straight at the goalie. They're not too good tactically either. All they seem to do is try improbable moves that never work.
I don't really understand why, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that they're women.
It's competitive enough but I'm not exactly getting to see any world class football.

CC
Sep 25th, 2003, 02:11 PM
Hmmm, this women's football thing is just about watchable, but it's hardly skilful. Most of them are actually pretty good at dribbling, but the rest of the time, they're just hoofing long balls, passing straight to the other team, running away from the spaces they should be running into, miscontrolling the ball, missing the ball completely, or scuffing their shots straight at the goalie. They're not too good tactically either. All they seem to do is try improbable moves that never work.
I don't really understand why, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that they're women.
It's competitive enough but I'm not exactly getting to see any world class football.

I'll tell them to get it together for you. Chop chop! girls!

~CANUCK~
Sep 25th, 2003, 07:05 PM
:bigclap: :bounce: :bigclap:

But they played like crap :o Canada is really gonna have to pick it up against Japan if they want to advance to the Quarters.

Latham :worship: She saved the day!..once with the help of a nice cross from my fav girl Lang ;)

yeah they did play like shit...but for a team playing badly winning 3-0 says alot...lets hope they can get it together for japan...Lang and sinclaire need to bring there A games with them and score with ease like they usually do

Hawk
Sep 25th, 2003, 10:50 PM
yeah they did play like shit...but for a team playing badly winning 3-0 says alot...lets hope they can get it together for japan...Lang and sinclaire need to bring there A games with them and score with ease like they usually do

I agree..and Sinclair, Latham and Lang need more support from their midfielders..they weren't getting any balls in..everything was a long bomb :p

~CANUCK~
Sep 25th, 2003, 10:52 PM
I agree..and Sinclair, Latham and Lang need more support from their midfielders..they weren't getting any balls in..everything was a long bomb :p

yes not the best of tactics...its kinda sad that hooper has to play defense...that women is just amazing as a forward

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:18 AM
ehehe woohooo *getting ready to sit back with a beer in hand and drool watch some football!! :D


..hopefully this will prove to be a good game :cool:

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:30 AM
Ready!

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:37 AM
ehehehe gooaaaaalllllllll!!!! :D:D:D


hamm converted an early pk ehehe so easily too ;) :bounce::lick:

Hawk
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:42 AM
yes not the best of tactics...its kinda sad that hooper has to play defense...that women is just amazing as a forward

I know it sucks that she's gotta play defense :( but with our backfield basically blowing up a month before the world cup :rolleyes: :sad: There was little choice. The team is really missing Chapman and Boyd (I thought Boyd would be able to play :() Because they're gone alot of players position's have been juggled around..and our backfield kinda sucks :o

* Princess *
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:44 AM
ehehehehehehe :bounce::):):):):bounce::drool:

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:46 AM
eheheh woohooo hamm scored again in the 12th minute!!! :D:bounce::D

*wonders if it will turn into a huge spanking of nigeria like 99* ;) :angel:

* Princess *
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:48 AM
eheheheheheh gooooo usa scored more goals :):bounce::banana::bounce:):p

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 12:57 AM
No Abby. :sad:

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:04 AM
No Abby. :sad:
tss she may come off the bench un the 2nd half ya know :p

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Want Abby. :sad:

narcissus boy
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:08 AM
teehehehee:angel: go usa :drool::lick::spank::angel:

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:10 AM
Want Abby. :sad:
awww :hug: drool over foudy or hamm :angel: - or is she just ur fave player ;):angel:

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:12 AM
Come back Abby. :sad:

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:40 AM
Abby. :D

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:53 AM
ehehe abby scored!! :p happy now ;)

and woohooo 4-0 :D:bounce::D

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 01:54 AM
ehehe abby scored!! :p happy now ;)

and woohooo 4-0 :D:bounce::D

1st World Cup gaol for Abby. :bounce:

adss
Sep 26th, 2003, 02:14 AM
sinclair looked tired :sad:
go canada go, we need the win against japan :bounce:

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 02:16 AM
woohooo foudy on a pk :lick::drool: .... 5-0 :D:D:D

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 02:27 AM
:eek: abby just fucked up kayode :o ..hopefully nths broken and/or shes not cut too badly :awww:

..anyhow decent game ;):D:D:D *hopes the game w/korea is gonna be good..

Martian KC
Sep 26th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Good luck to Brazil, China, and Japan!!!

* Princess *
Sep 26th, 2003, 02:30 AM
eehehehehehehe foudy screosos omg im happee eeehehehehehehe

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 02:40 AM
:eek: abby just fucked up kayode :o ..hopefully nths broken and/or shes not cut too badly :awww:


She fucked her up real good too. But I don't think she wanted to bust her face open like that. :o

Hawk
Sep 26th, 2003, 03:19 AM
She fucked her up real good too. But I don't think she wanted to bust her face open like that. :o

What happened? :confused:

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 03:22 AM
abby (a usa player) elbowed a nigerian player in her face and it kinda fucked her up :o - she was bleeding quite a bit and down on the field for 5+ mins :o

.. but it happend in extra time so we didnt get to hear what was "wrong" .. im sure they'll have a pic up soon of it :o - poor girl

Hawk
Sep 26th, 2003, 03:26 AM
abby (a usa player) elbowed a nigerian player in her face and it kinda fucked her up :o - she was bleeding quite a bit and down on the field for 5+ mins :o

.. but it happend in extra time so we didnt get to hear what was "wrong" .. im sure they'll have a pic up soon of it :o - poor girl

Ouch! :o I hate watching it on the replay..Same thing happened to one of Canada's players a few months back..she was bleeding so she came off they patched her up and she went back in :p ..her nose was actually broken :o

Tammy
Sep 26th, 2003, 04:11 AM
here's that injured nigerian player .. hmm cant really see the blood on her face much just some on her hands and jersey

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20030926/i/2122878160.jpg


..and *couldnt resist* .. two of the hottest players in a pic together :angel:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20030926/i/198259450.jpg

King Satan
Sep 26th, 2003, 04:19 AM
GO USA!! :yeah:

GBFH
Sep 26th, 2003, 04:20 AM
USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!

or if they don't win...canada...canada....canada

Hawk
Sep 26th, 2003, 05:07 AM
Wow they put a neck brace on her and everything :eek: Poor girl though :o

Hawk
Sep 26th, 2003, 06:39 AM
lol @ ESPN..this is a quote from one of their post match articles

The Argentines best chance came early in the second half when Marisol Medina's shot from 12 yards was pushed wide right by goalkeeper Tarry Swatted.

The name is Taryn Swiatek :p

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 07:08 PM
The chick was holding onto Abby with both hands, elbows are the remedy for such behavior. I'm sure she didn't want to "bust her up" but that embow gets thrown all the time in that scenario.

Hope she's alright. I was a good physical match in all. I love how the announcers kept harping on the physical play of the Nigerians and then every time they went to stats our "Girls Next Door" had as many or sometimes more fouls.

Nigerians do play out of control. Nothing wrong with a little female athletic violence.
:devil:

Way to Go Mia, Way to Go Abby, Way to Go USA!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

It's unfortunate what happened, but defenders on a whole like to bully forwards.

I noticed that although the Nigerians play a physical game, most of the girls are skinny. The US girls looked huge compared to them.

CC
Sep 26th, 2003, 08:34 PM
Speaking of China: aren't they just a fantastic team to watch? They are so entertaining.

My little brother lives by the philosophy that the better team SHOULD win, and was very upset when Australia scored first last night. He went to bed at half-time even though I promised him that China would eventually come out on top. It was a draw, but still, I knew they couldn't just lose like that.

~CANUCK~
Sep 28th, 2003, 02:24 AM
canada won 3-1 against japan today...they are in the quaters now :D Im so happy...they played like the Canada of old and played great..kara lang scored a great goal to go up 3-1.

Hawk
Sep 28th, 2003, 04:39 AM
canada won 3-1 against japan today...they are in the quaters now :D Im so happy...they played like the Canada of old and played great..kara lang scored a great goal to go up 3-1.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: How cool is this!? :D

Kara :worship: They desperatly needed that goal! Pellerud knew it..he was jumping around after she scored :p

Although I must say I'm not entirely convinced she wasn't trying to cross the ball :p Either way a goal is a goal ;)

~CANUCK~
Sep 28th, 2003, 05:26 AM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: How cool is this!? :D

Kara :worship: They desperatly needed that goal! Pellerud knew it..he was jumping around after she scored :p

Although I must say I'm not entirely convinced she wasn't trying to cross the ball :p Either way a goal is a goal ;)

yeah im sure it was meant to be a cross...but still it was a very pretty goal..one of the best ive seen lately..it was almost as nice as the one she had at the u-19 world cup where she scored from like 30 feet out

Tammy
Sep 28th, 2003, 07:20 PM
woohooo!! - ljungberg just scored giving sweden the lead!!:D:banana::bounce:

*hopes they can pull out the win* .. if the us takes care of korea then swedens through to the quarters!! :D

Tammy
Sep 28th, 2003, 07:42 PM
:bounce::bounce: the 2nd goal for ljungberg!!! - looks like sweden will hold up their end :D:banana:

Tammy
Sep 28th, 2003, 07:43 PM
:bounce::bounce: the 2nd goal for ljungberg!!! - looks like sweden will hold up their end :D:banana:


:eek::eek: i spoke to soon - make that 3-0 for sweden mostroem scored :D:D:D

Tammy
Sep 28th, 2003, 11:07 PM
eheheheh :D:D:D

- so its set!! USA vs Norway on wednesday :devil:

:banana::banana::banana:

CC
Sep 28th, 2003, 11:13 PM
Marri has been hiding.

Tammy
Sep 28th, 2003, 11:22 PM
Marri has been hiding.
lol :p

..nah just spoke to her on msn - shes just been busy lately ;)

CC
Sep 28th, 2003, 11:46 PM
lol :p

..nah just spoke to her on msn - shes just been busy lately ;)

I would prefer to believe she has been hiding. :angel:

kiwifan
Sep 29th, 2003, 02:02 AM
I figured she'd start having "computer" problems before the Cup ended...

...just kidding :kiss:

North Korea actually played better than the USA, they just finished like crap. Brianna had a couple of great saves too.

Clearly Boxx and Foudy in midfield are not luxury choices, they are "need players" the rest of the way.

Oh well, Mac got in and so did Slaton so I have nothing to complain about.

Millbret probably won't be playing much more in this Cup. She has almost none of her old aggression. I think her "lack of recognition" in comparison to her goal scoring over the last few years used to drive her to excell. Perhaps thanks to WUSA she's found a little "inner-peace"; they were mentioning that she was suffering from burn out. In the late rounds as a "need a goal in the closing minutes" sub, I'd pick Mac over Millie.

Oh well, undefeated so far, so I'll stop complaining...

CC
Sep 29th, 2003, 02:17 AM
I noticed that about Millbrett too and I thought the coach was going to take her out today.

Kristine Lilly however, remains very impressive.

Hawk
Sep 29th, 2003, 02:28 AM
:yawn: This China/Russia game isn't starting fast enough :p I wanna see who Canada has to play!

CC
Sep 29th, 2003, 03:06 AM
They're showing it too late. We have almost an hour left to wait and I'm already tired. It'll end around twelve porty pive. That's very late; we'll see. :yawn:

CC
Sep 29th, 2003, 03:38 AM
Can't wait ... tell me how it went. Goonight.

Caoimhe
Sep 29th, 2003, 01:17 PM
Come on USA!

Tammy
Sep 29th, 2003, 01:50 PM
china 1-0

...so canada vs china thursday night at 10:30 pm :eek: - damn they have them playing late

CC
Sep 29th, 2003, 03:19 PM
Yay, China. I was worried for them.

Hawk
Sep 29th, 2003, 09:39 PM
yeah im sure it was meant to be a cross...but still it was a very pretty goal..one of the best ive seen lately..it was almost as nice as the one she had at the u-19 world cup where she scored from like 30 feet out

She also had a couple of beauties at the Gold Cup last year..against Jamaica I think. One a strike from 25 feet out and another from about 22 feet. The first was a free kick..powered right into the top corner :worship:

As the CSA's site says she has a tendency for the spectacular :p

CC
Sep 30th, 2003, 07:47 PM
Semifinal picks:
USA vs. Germany
Brazil vs. China


Final:
USA vs. Brazil


Champion:
USA

kiwifan
Sep 30th, 2003, 08:40 PM
Semifinal picks:
USA vs. Germany
Brazil vs. China


Final:
USA vs. Brazil


Champion:
USA

Now you've ruined all the suspense. :p

CC
Sep 30th, 2003, 08:44 PM
Especially since I'm right.

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 12:44 AM
Especially since I'm right.

Yeah don't go out on a limb or anything :p

I think we might have at least one quarter final upset..

kiwifan
Oct 1st, 2003, 06:52 PM
Darn it!!! Norway v. USA is on ESPN2 and I only get ESPN at work. This sucks!!! Of course I am taping the game, but this really sucks. Norway is going down, baby and here's a little "follow up" from my original USA players don't like Norway comments...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/world/2003-09-30-heinrichs-remembers-norway_x.htm

Heinrichs has score to settle
By Kelly Whiteside, USA TODAY
PROVIDENCE — To understand how much U.S. coach April Heinrichs abhors losing, you listen to the stories from 1991, when Heinrichs was the captain during the inaugural Women's World Cup in China.
"When we would compete and we would break up into teams, a lot of times our cheers were 'Beat April,' " says Mia Hamm, a teammate in 1991. "Sometimes she would do anything and everything to win, whether it was pull a jersey when someone wasn't looking or sneak a toe in there. Her competitiveness was great, but it was also intimidating. But she was the kind of player you loved having on your team because she went out there with this fire."

Twelve years have passed and you see Heinrichs, now 39, at practice. Her hair has grayed, and an ice bag is wrapped around a knee. She doesn't yell. She doesn't throw her white visor. You wonder about the whereabouts of the fire. And you ask about losing. Is losing easier as a coach?

"It's personal to me. It's deep. It's hard to overcome. Losing is an emotional thing to me," she says. As a player turned coach, the agony is the same.

Three years and three days have passed since Heinrichs lost the most important match of her young career to longtime rival Norway in the 2000 Olympics gold medal game. The day before Wednesday's World Cup quarterfinal against Norway (7:30 p.m., ESPN2 and Telefutura), you ask about the 2000 loss, and only then do you truly understand the fire.

"It was very difficult," Heinrichs says. And those are the only words she gets out before her blue eyes fill with tears. She has to pause. Then she explains.

After the Olympics, she questioned herself. She was at peace with her team's performance, but it took about 10 days before she could live with it. After all, it was a loss. When asked if its stinging memory carries over to tonight's game, she nods yes.

[edited out boring bio crap]

With so many expectations and the launch of a professional league the following year, the USA went home with a silver medal. All the while Heinrichs said she fought to quiet self-doubt. "In my head, I was saying, 'Don't screw it up.' And that's not my mantra in life. I don't approach anything in life like that and had to fight that."

Three years and three days after the loss, Heinrichs is much more comfortable and confident in her role. "The difference between 2000 and 2003 is palpable."

Every move she has made in the USA's first three World Cup games has seemingly worked. Heinrichs has started a different lineup in each game, has tinkered with formations and has played all but two on her roster of 20. She realizes it will only seem masterful if the USA keeps winning.

If the USA loses to Norway, there will be the agony. But at this moment, there is only the promise of putting three years and three days in the past and the promise of the future.

"I couldn't imagine doing anything else other than coaching. I fear the day," she says. But retirement is a long way away. The gray hair may have come early, but the kid who tugged, poked and willed her way to so much winning is still there.

__________________________________________________ _______

Kick ass USA!!! C'mon Abby!!! C'mon Mia!!! Let's get Mac some "PT" in garbage time :devil:

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:01 PM
Sweden goes up 1-0 over Brazil.

wow 3 years later and Heinrich's is still choking on that loss..that's rough :(

CC
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:10 PM
Sweden goes up 1-0 over Brazil.

wow 3 years later and Heinrich's is still choking on that loss..that's rough :(

Could it be that I was wrong? :confused:

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:17 PM
Could it be that I was wrong? :confused:

Well from the ticker comments it appears the Swedes are dominating..however I'm still not counting Brazil out. You may get your prediction yet ;)

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:20 PM
ohhh the Swedish goalie takes out a Brazilan player and gets a yellow card and draws a penalty kick :o That's gotta suck for her :tape:
...and that was about 30 seconds before the end of the half..even worst :o

1-1 :p

CC
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:23 PM
Ooooh, I just saw on the FIFA site 1-1. Funny I didn't think of looking there earlier.

kiwifan
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:23 PM
If there's got to be an upset, I hope its Sweden.

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:32 PM
oh man Sweden has 10 fouls in the first half :o

*cough*diving*cough* :p

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:47 PM
Sweden up 2-1 now..Sounds like a beautiful goal..a direct free kick strike from 35 yards out :eek:

Yellow cards all over the place :p 4 so far in the match..2 for each side.

LeonHart
Oct 1st, 2003, 10:49 PM
Go China!! woot woot. Destroy those Canucks, make em look silly!

Tammy
Oct 1st, 2003, 11:25 PM
looks like sweden pulled it off ;) 2-1

Hawk
Oct 1st, 2003, 11:26 PM
Yay Sweden..I don't really like Brazil. I don't think they play very fair.

CC
Oct 1st, 2003, 11:44 PM
Ah phooey.

Well, I did like Hanna Ljungberg. So ... :rolleyes:

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 12:43 AM
hmm.. the americans are controlling a majority of ball possession

*waits to see who strikes first* :devil:

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 12:55 AM
goal by abby :D:D:D .. 1-0 :cool:

kiwifan
Oct 2nd, 2003, 12:58 AM
I was going to honor my obligations to a certain Big Pink Pachyderm but if she's not here, I will avoid this thread so I can enjoy the match on tape an hour and 30 minutes from now.

GO USA, kick ass!!!

kiwifan
Oct 2nd, 2003, 01:00 AM
goal by abby :D:D:D .. 1-0 :cool:

Final comment of the afternoon. :devil:

CC
Oct 2nd, 2003, 01:14 AM
3rd straight WC goal for Abby. :)

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 01:52 AM
:hearts::drool::lick::hearts:
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031002/i/4204516808.jpg



..and one of abby for cc ;)
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031001/i/1949109130.jpg

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 02:04 AM
hmm its the 77th minute and norway just now got their first shot on goal :lol:

the us needs to score another goal for comfort though :eek:

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 02:22 AM
hmm us finishes it out 1-0 :cool:

:banana::banana::banana:

kiwifan
Oct 2nd, 2003, 05:07 AM
hmm us finishes it out 1-0 :cool:

:banana::banana::banana:

:worship: :worship: :worship:

Mia blew a PK :o

Good thing it didn't come back to haunt the team.

Lots of nice fouls Boxx and Parlow killed Norway players.

In the first half Norway players were killing Hamm so what can you do?

Final thought, funny how all those Adidas commercials feature Aly prominently (sp) and yet Boxx beat her out and put her cute butt flat on the bench.

Boxx is pretty friggin awesom in the middle.

CC
Oct 2nd, 2003, 03:46 PM
:hearts::drool::lick::hearts:
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031002/i/4204516808.jpg



..and one of abby for cc ;)
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031001/i/1949109130.jpg

:drool: :drool:

You are very kind. :D

*Bubbles*
Oct 2nd, 2003, 09:58 PM
Mia :hearts:
Abby :hearts:
I like this thread :angel:
The Sweden vs. Brazil match was very exciting and I'm so happy the Swedes won, they definitely deserve it! :D
And USA! I love that team :D
Dream final: USA vs. Sweden *hoping*

*Bubbles*
Oct 2nd, 2003, 10:38 PM
oh and Malin Andersson's free kick, the 2-1 goal, was a beauty!

http://www.cnnsi.com/soccer/us/news/2002/08/12/wusa_playoffs_ap/t1_hamm_ap-01.jpg

and one for Tammy :)
http://www.internetsoccer.com/images/anthem2.jpg

Does anyone know how tall Abby is?

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 10:54 PM
and one for Tammy :)
http://www.internetsoccer.com/images/anthem2.jpg

Does anyone know how tall Abby is?
:drool::hearts::lick:

:worship: Martina :worship:


..and btw abby is 1.8 m tall :p

Hawk
Oct 2nd, 2003, 11:01 PM
Depends where you look lol :p

Abby is listed at 180cm..so a little over 5'9 on the FIFA Women's World Cup site and 5'10 at the US soccer site.

But I always thought Parlow was taller and FIFA WWC site lists her at 180cm as well, while the US site has her at 5'11 :confused:

I would go with the US site ;)

sorry for the long involved answer :o ..it's just cause I was looking at some player heights a few days ago and realized FIFA's site doesn't always comply with the countries stats.

*Bubbles*
Oct 2nd, 2003, 11:03 PM
1.8 m :eek: omg, she's tall!!! and Mia Hamm is quite short isn't she? lol, they look so cute next to each other :p

Tammy
Oct 2nd, 2003, 11:18 PM
mia is only 5'4 so shes about 1.63 m

..and true hawk.. but as far as the difference in height - do remember that its not out of the ordinary for teams to list their players at a little taller height than they actually are just as an intimidation factor..

- and that said who knows what her 'true' height is.. but they're not that far apart to begin with..

goldenlox
Oct 3rd, 2003, 12:42 AM
There's a game on now. On ESPN2. I've read about Barbachina. This is the first time I've watched her play.

~CANUCK~
Oct 3rd, 2003, 05:34 AM
Canada just beat china 1-0..hooper scored the most amazing goal :bounce:

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 05:48 AM
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! :bounce: :bounce:

What a game by Swiatek :worship: ..she was just off the hook!! :woohoo:

The whole Canadian team was awesome!! :D

Everyone bounce with me :bounce: :bounce: :p

~CANUCK~
Oct 3rd, 2003, 05:50 AM
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! :bounce: :bounce:

What a game by Swiatek :worship: ..she was just off the hook!! :woohoo:

The whole Canadian team was awesome!! :D

Everyone bounce with me :bounce: :bounce: :p

im bouncing alright... :bounce: :bounce: im soooo fucking happy...everyone played so well...and what the hell was with the anti-canadian refing...like every call was a bad one against us...oh well we still showed them whos better

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 06:21 AM
Yeah I know the ref sucks at times :(

We got called for so many fouls in the air..we're bigger, it's not our problem if you go up with us and end up on your ass :p
I was just laughing near the end of the game when Wilkinson went up for a header surrounded by 3 Chinese players and some how she managed to come out with the foul lol :p

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 06:35 AM
:D
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/xp/20031003/i/3292018512.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031003/i/3714694149.jpg

adss
Oct 3rd, 2003, 06:43 AM
:bounce:

snoop
Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:01 AM
Germany crushed the Russians 7-1 in the quarters :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Time to challenge the USA :clap2:



Semis:
Germany - USA
Sweden - Canada

matthias
Oct 3rd, 2003, 11:15 AM
the German Girls will kick ass, and will win the Title!!!

:woohoo:

20:3 goals in 4 matches :eek:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 3rd, 2003, 11:20 AM
:help: :o

go Sverige !!!!!!!!! win it girls :hearts:
and good luck Germany in semis as well

kiwifan
Oct 3rd, 2003, 02:51 PM
USA will win by 2 goals.

Boxx is overdue. Abby can't be denied.

I have a strange feeling that Foudy is feeling a little overshadowed too, maybe I should make that 3 goals :devil:

*Bubbles*
Oct 3rd, 2003, 03:51 PM
Congrats Canada and Germany! :D
I'm still hoping for USA-Sweden in the final. Germany's gonna be tough to beat though but if any team can do it, it's USA!! :D :hearts:

CC
Oct 3rd, 2003, 09:29 PM
China coach takes blame for loss, could face sacking
3 October 2003
by AFP

The coach of China's women's national soccer team Thursday took the blame for his team's devastating 1-0 loss to Canada in the quarter-finals of the Women's World Cup, but said he was willing to stay on as coach.

"Several years ago I said that our team was only a second tier team and this made a lot of people unhappy at the time," Ma Liangxing was quoted by Sina.com sports as saying after the loss in Portland, Oregon.

"But from the group matches and the quarter-final match it is true we are only a second tier team."

China lost after Canada's Charmaine Hooper scored the winner early in the match and goalkeeper Taryn Swiatek made five crucial saves.

China was runner up in the 1996 Olympic Games and in the 1999 World Cup, but since then have not maintained a high level of play.

"We created a lot of opportunities during the game, but didn't score, so the problem has to rest with my training plan. As coach, I believe I'm responsible for losing," Ma said.

Ma said that a decision on whether he stays on as the national team coach would likely be made by the China Football Association.

"If I have the opportunity, I would like to continue to coach the national team, generally speaking I think with my experience and what I have learned I believe that I can get better results in the future," he said.

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031003/i/2009111346.jpg

China's Bi Yan (14) reacts after losing, 1-0, to Canada in the 2003 Women's World Cup quarterfinals Thursday, Oct. 2, 2003 at PGE Park in Portland, Ore. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)
Copyright: AP

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031003/i/2876098034.jpg
China's Teng Wei and Bi Yan embrace as Canada soocer players celebrate their 1-0 win in the 2003 Women's World Cup quarterfinals Thursday, Oct. 2, 2003, at PGE Park in Portland, Ore. (AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)
Copyright: AP

:sad:

CC
Oct 3rd, 2003, 09:40 PM
What is the goalkeeper doing here? The ball was behind her. :tape:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20031003/i/4005869929.jpg

Canada's Charmaine Hooper heads in the only goal
Canada heads in the only goal of the match against Chinese goalkeeper Han Wenxia. The Canadians won 1-0 in Portland.
Copyright: Action Images

Joana
Oct 3rd, 2003, 09:44 PM
Noway :sad: :sad: :sad:
Oh well, they're still the Olympic champions :cool:

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 09:48 PM
China only really had one problem this world cup..they couldn't finish. Last night they didn't have a whole lot of great chances..but when they did they missed the net. Swiatek had to make 5 saves in the match..yet they took like 20 shots :o

I think maybe they were starting to doubt themselves a bit. I mean late in the second half Sun Wen broke into the box (right side) with a clear shot at the net if she wanted..but instead she stopped and popped it into the middle of the box where one of the Canadian's headed it out. If you're one of the greatest players and strikers of all time I don't know how you pass up that shot! :confused:

CC
Oct 3rd, 2003, 09:53 PM
The woman is 30 yrs old. They say she's not what she used to be.

Swiatek had a brilliant game though.

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 09:56 PM
Well she looked pretty good early on :p

She was in the box..with no one on her..heck I would go for it lol :p

CC
Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:01 PM
She's gone now:

China's Sun Wen calls it quits
3 October 2003
by AFP

The captain of China's women's national soccer team and one of the game's greatest players, Sun Wen, announced her retirement Thursday following China's devastating 1-0 quarter-final loss to Canada in the Women's World Cup, state press reported.

"I have played my last game," she was quoted by Xinhua news agency as saying following the loss in Portland, Oregon.

"Football is just a game, now life must move on."

Sun, 30, is one of only a few players in the world to have played in all four Women's World Cups, scoring 106 goals in 152 caps for a Chinese team that placed second in both the 1996 Olympics and the 1999 World Cup.

"I felt we had a chance trailing 1-0 in the game," she said. "I never gave up. I fought until the last second."

Sun said she will further her study of international relations in Shanghai's prestigious Fudan University, but has not decided what to do after graduation.

"Maybe I will become a coach. But so far, I have not made the decision. I have a lot of time.

"But one thing is certain. I have played my last game. I will neither play for China nor for any clubs."

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:06 PM
I'm happy for our girls..but that's a really tough way to end your career :sad:

CC
Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:10 PM
:sad:

CC
Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:20 PM
A couple photos of Sun Wen from '99: :)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fi/20030519/i/2471754598.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fi/20030519/i/407950633.jpg

Hawk
Oct 3rd, 2003, 10:49 PM
From the article 'Norway need to keep up with the times'

“Like we have seen before, they (Norway) launched long balls forward across midfield towards the American box where they were hoping somebody could flick the ball on, but these tactics simply don’t work against a strong American back-four. Instead they should have built up from midfield making sure that players from midfield would overlap into attack and thereby come forward to support the strikers," said Hilton-Smith after the match.

At this point I was kinda laughing thinking..launched long balls forward..who does that remind me of lol :p

Next paragraph..

"It would be harsh to claim that Norway need to rethink their whole way of playing in the wake of Even Pellerud inspiring his Canadian side to success via a similar system. but it is evident that Steen must develop tactical options to catch up with the steadily progressing women’s game."

That's Canada's game plan lol..toss it down there and hope our strikers can get it :p

LeonHart
Oct 4th, 2003, 01:36 AM
China :sad:

Canada knocked down so many players, yet when China knocks one of them down its an automatic foul. :mad: China was soo close so many times to tie it, too bad.

Hawk
Oct 4th, 2003, 02:32 AM
China :sad:

Canada knocked down so many players, yet when China knocks one of them down its an automatic foul. :mad: China was soo close so many times to tie it, too bad.

It went both ways. Canada got called, especially near the end of the game, for fouls that were not fouls. Canada also got called for obstruction..but the Chinese never did.

Anyhoo I think both teams got some crappy calls :(

~CANUCK~
Oct 4th, 2003, 02:42 AM
It went both ways. Canada got called, especially near the end of the game, for fouls that were not fouls. Canada also got called for obstruction..but the Chinese never did.

Anyhoo I think both teams got some crappy calls :(

yeah both teams got shitty calls...like when hooper got the yellow card...the card made sense since hoop was all in the refs face...but the foul that was called on her to begin with was a joke...there was no foul.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Oct 4th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Matthias:

Don't forget that the US men thoroughly outplayed Germany last year, and were robbed of a penalty. I don't think the semi is going to be that easy for either team -- although I do think whichever team wins is going to win the final quite easily.

At least Chinese Beijing have been knocked out. :)

pReUrBrIyN
Oct 4th, 2003, 04:45 AM
when is the next match?

CC
Oct 4th, 2003, 04:53 AM
The semis are Sunday evening on ESPN 2. Something like 7:30 and 10:30.

USA vs. Germany
Canada vs Sweden

salima
Oct 4th, 2003, 07:03 PM
What a foolish draw. USA and Germany, the best eams in the tournament by a distance wil burn each other out and sweeden willhave aneasy matchin thefinal :sad::mad:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 4th, 2003, 08:06 PM
Salima i hope so ;)
do i sense some Norwegian angst ?? ;)

Hawk
Oct 4th, 2003, 08:27 PM
What a foolish draw. USA and Germany, the best eams in the tournament by a distance wil burn each other out and sweeden willhave aneasy matchin thefinal :sad::mad:

There was no way to know how all the teams would perform..some have overachieved and some have underachieved.

Sweden still has to get there :p

Liinn
Oct 5th, 2003, 11:38 AM
hey...sweden has beaten north korea...nigeria and brasil...champions in Asia, africa and south america...
if we beat Canada I think we have deserved to be in the final...

Tammy
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:31 AM
great game for germany :) 3-0 (2 of the goals were in the last 2 minutes of stoppage time as the amerians tried to pull all their men forward for an equalizing goal - so the game wasnt actually as bad as it looks.. but very good game played by germany - they'll probably take the cup :bounce: )

congrats to them :clap2:

Hawk
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:35 AM
Wow well done Germany :worship: I agree..I don't think anyone is going to stop them at this point.

snoop
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:35 AM
:woohoo:

was an interesting match.

great play girls :yeah: take the trophy :bounce:

CC
Oct 6th, 2003, 03:12 AM
Actually, this F-ing sucks. :rolleyes:

But it was a great game I'll admit.

Question: why oh why did the coach take out Cindy Parlow?

Hawk
Oct 6th, 2003, 03:23 AM
Actually, this F-ing sucks. :rolleyes:

But it was a great game I'll admit.

Question: why oh why did the coach take out Cindy Parlow?

I'm not sure if this was why..but it looked to me like she was limping. Parlow was playing great so I can't imagine another reason to take her out. :confused:

CC
Oct 6th, 2003, 03:42 AM
I don't know whether to say this was good refereeing or poor refereeing; there were so many fouls that she just let go. She might have been more interested in the flow of the game which is not a bad idea, but she could have at least called a penalty where the goalkeeper took out Millbrett.

CC
Oct 6th, 2003, 03:43 AM
I like how Mia was acting tough like she wasn't going to cry. :p

ally baker
Oct 6th, 2003, 03:47 AM
Good... now hopefully they'll stop showing soccer in the US finally.

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 6th, 2003, 10:34 AM
Sweden won too :banana: :woohoo: 2-1 vs Canada

just the final i wanted
go Sverige !!!!!! go win it girls ;)

German girls :yeah: :kiss: :)

salima
Oct 6th, 2003, 11:22 AM
For the sake of womens fotball, Germany ,pleeeeeeeese win,
Sweden has not shown they have an own style of playing other than breaking up the oppositions rythm

come on Birgit and Maren :clap2:

matthias
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:20 PM
Germany :banana:

finally we beat the USA in a important match :)
i hope she can take the title now
i think they deserve it :)

matthias
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:49 PM
the USA are fair loser

some quotes:

"We brought our 'A' game in terms of the attacking," U.S. coach April Heinrichs said. "That's a great team we played. I've got to think that maybe this was the greatest game ever played in women's soccer."


"I said to the German coach after the game `Go and win it,"' Heinrichs said, "because that certainly is one of the best teams I've seen in a long time."

matthias
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:52 PM
Matthias:

Don't forget that the US men thoroughly outplayed Germany last year, and were robbed of a penalty. I don't think the semi is going to be that easy for either team -- although I do think whichever team wins is going to win the final quite easily.

At least Chinese Beijing have been knocked out. :)



German´s men team sucks
they have problems to qualifiyng for EURO 2004
but who need the mens, when we have such a great women-Team :cool:

Wojtek
Oct 6th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Germany :D :D :D :D

Hawk
Oct 6th, 2003, 03:25 PM
I want Germany to win as well..simply cause they've proved they are the best team in this tournament.

Our Canadian girls :sad: That backline being held together with duct tape and gum finally fell apart :p The defender position appeared to be cursed :eek: every freaking player slotted there got hurt! :p

Well done Sweden! They played an awesome game ;) ..and damn they're fast lol :p

Kara :worship: another awesome goal! She kicked it right thru the keeper from 30 yards out! :worship:

kiwifan
Oct 6th, 2003, 06:10 PM
Oh well, it's good for soccer to have someone other than USA and Norway win something.

Bad for pro-soccer in the USA.

In fact if they don't win the Olympics, its probably going to go back to what it was before '99.

Too bad.

Too bad for Canada too (especially that Nonen chick in the back :lick: ). I know I'm one of the worst Canada bashers on the board (when provoked :devil: ) but their squad has come farther faster since the last World Cup and no team deserved the finals than they did. :angel:

Peace y'all and good luck to both teams, hope for high scoring.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Oct 6th, 2003, 08:34 PM
Matthias:

If I'm not mistaken, don't Germany simply need a draw against Iceland at home this weekend to qualify automatically for Euro 2004?

ptkten
Oct 6th, 2003, 10:23 PM
USA :( Oh well, good luck Germany now.

Joana
Oct 6th, 2003, 10:30 PM
Germany :worship:

matthias
Oct 7th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Matthias:

If I'm not mistaken, don't Germany simply need a draw against Iceland at home this weekend to qualify automatically for Euro 2004?

sure, they need just a draw
but when you have seen the bad matches vs. Iceland (0:0) and Farör(2:1) then you know how bad the german men´s team is

CC
Oct 8th, 2003, 07:26 PM
Third-place match more than just consolation
7 October 2003
by FIFAworldcup.com

While in most tournaments the third-place match is usually no more than an interesting formality, the contest between Canada and the United States on 11 October at the Home Depot Center should be a particularly fascinating and hard-fought encounter. There is no love lost between the two North American rivals and both teams have something to prove.
For the Canadians, any match with the Americans is motivation enough. Long soundly beaten and in the shadow of their southern neighbours, Canada have focused on the U.S. as their greatest rivals, the side that they have to emulate and beat to prove their worth on the international stage. And, their exponential growth over the past four years is demonstrated by their improving results against the Americans.


Overcoming history

Despite the fact that the Canadians still have managed only three wins and three draws in 31 total contests with the United States - including a whopping minus-86 goal difference - Canada have actually performed quite well versus the U.S. over the last few years. Really they couldn’t have done much worse, as they lost to the U.S. 23 of the first 24 times they faced them. But, 14 years after their only victory, they doubled their number of wins on U.S. soil with a surprisingly comprehensive 3-1 win in Columbus. And, other than a 6-1 hiding handed out this year against a hastily assembled, half-strength Canuck team, the U.S. has only beaten Canada in two of their last seven contests.

At the prestigious Algarve Cup in Portugal this year, Canada held the lead over their rivals for 78 minutes before a late Aly Wagner equaliser split the spoils for both sides. The U.S. went on to win the tournament, and Canada beat Greece 7-1 in the 7th-place match. The late goal by the Americans is nothing new for them in recent encounters with Canada. Two golden goal victories within two months of each other last year, in the Gold Cup and FIFA Women’s U-19 World Championship finals, were particularly hard for the Canucks to bear.


Heated adversaries

After the Algarve Cup final, American coach April Heinrichs described the oft-heated rivalry in no uncertain terms: "The Canadians want to beat us more than they want to breathe.”

In response, Canada continue to play their kick-and-rush, aggressive style, in a particularly in-your-face way against the Americans. Also, after the Algarve Cup draw, Canadian defender Randee Hermus reiterated the team’s mentality.

"We have always been in the shadow of the U.S. because they have been so successful,” said the 23-year-old. “But, now they can't beat us the way they used to. They are our biggest rivals, and we really want to beat them. We'd like to beat them all the time if we could.

"With the Americans, it's absolutely a grudge match,” she continued. “We know they don't like it when we play aggressively. We play physically regardless, but we know that they've mentioned not liking to play us because we battle them. That's good. We're not cheap or dirty, we just like to win the ball. We don't back down from them."


Something to play for

For the Americans, there is not only the desire to beat a Canadian team that they feel perhaps play too uncompromisingly sometimes. The hosts also would like to go out on a high, even if it is something of an anticlimactic one, after their dramatic 3-0 loss to Germany in the semi-finals. Or, at the very least, they will not want to lose again on home soil at a major tournament.

A team always known for their pride and mental-strength, it would no doubt be wrong to assume that the U.S. will not go all out in the 3rd-place match. And, the hosts will be looking to give their throngs of loyal supporters their money’s worth at the Home Depot Centre.

"There's still another game to play," said defiant U.S. goalkeeper Briana Scurry. "We still have our pride. We're going to give it all we got next week and try to pick up a win."

~~~~~~~


The loss to Germany was a bitter pill to swallow, and I'm telling you right now: if the USA loses to Canada on Saturday I'm going to cry. Literally.
Albeit, I will have to hideaway to do so, but I will.

Hawk
Oct 8th, 2003, 09:09 PM
Sounds like one hell of a match! :D :p

I think the US will win, but I still hope Canada can take it ;)

It's the old vets versus the young guns. Hermus' comments are funny..she almost sounds like she wants blood :o The US doesn't have to worry about her though..she's hurt :( along with everyone else on our defense :rolleyes:

salima
Oct 8th, 2003, 09:28 PM
I hope the underdogs from Canada would win ,but I am afraid this is a formality for USA.
We have some Canadians in out homely liga, and off couse their coach. Even Pellerud is more a household name here than Hingis, Graf, Williams and Poutchek together :p

Hawk
Oct 8th, 2003, 09:56 PM
I hope the underdogs from Canada would win ,but I am afraid this is a formality for USA.
We have some Canadians in out homely liga, and off couse their coach. Even Pellerud is more a household name here than Hingis, Graf, Williams and Poutchek together :p

Must be a pretty big change for Even then, cause over here in Canada almost no one knows who he is :o :p

Yeah Kristina Kiss and Randee Hermus both play for Fløya :D

matthias
Oct 9th, 2003, 03:08 PM
ALL-STAR-TEAM announced

Goalkeeper
Silke Rottenberg (GERMANY)

Defense
Liping Wang (China), Joy Fawcett (USA), Charmaine Hooper (Kanada), Sandra Minnert (GERMANY)

Midfield
Bettina Wiegmann(GERMANY), Malin Moström (Schweden), Shannon Boxx (USA), Maren Meinert (GERMANY)

Forward
Birgit Prinz(GERMANY) Victoria Svensson (Schweden).


Substitutions:
Caroline Jönsson (Schweden/Goalkeeper), Solveig Gulbrandsen (Schweden), Marta (Brasilien), Mia Hamm (USA), Dagny Mellgren (Norwegen).

matthias
Oct 9th, 2003, 03:10 PM
5 x Germany
2 x Sweden
2 x USA
1 x China
1 x Canada

Linn
Oct 9th, 2003, 03:31 PM
Salima!!!
Obviously we did something right. Jealousy?

Hawk
Oct 12th, 2003, 02:50 AM
US wins the bronze medal game 3-1 over Canada.

Well done by the US :yeah: Canada's girls really faded in the second half :( too bad for them. However Canada got medals too :D Yay they've got something to bring home!! :bounce:

Kara Lang :worship: What a game from her! She was giving the US defenders fits in the first half :D

:worship: to the whole squad! Wonderful tournament! Y'all should be extremely proud of yourselves :D

matthias
Oct 12th, 2003, 11:45 AM
Canada got medals too?

:confused:

*Bubbles*
Oct 12th, 2003, 04:13 PM
Congrats USA :hearts: :hearts:
I wanted them in the final but oh well, you can't win them all.....
Now c'mon Sweden! :bounce:
not that I'd mind Germany winning either, they've proved what an amazing team they are, they'd deserve it too. I just want a good match!

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:25 PM
go Sweden :hearts: :drool:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:30 PM
Heja Sweden! :D :)

snoop
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:36 PM
Los Mädels, holt euch den Titel :bounce:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:41 PM
Sweden 1-0 :banana: :D

snoop
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:42 PM
:shout:

Roxers
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:44 PM
:fiery:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:46 PM
Hanna Ljungberg :hearts: :woohoo:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 06:53 PM
:banana: :woohoo: Keep going Sweden!

snoop
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:03 PM
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

1-1 :dance:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:04 PM
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

1-1 :dance:
:( :mad:

snoop
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:05 PM
:( :mad:
:nerner:


;)

Roxers
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:06 PM
:banana:

ONE MORE GOAL!! COME ON GERMANY :bounce:

Hawk
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:12 PM
Canada got medals too?

:confused:

Yeah...I'm not entirely sure why..but I'm really happy our girls get to take something home :angel:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031011/i/2152957705.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031011/i/2448817037.jpg

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:22 PM
:nerner:


;)
Pff! Sweden will score again and then I'll do this:
:ras:

;)

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:37 PM
omg what a miss :mad:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:38 PM
omg what a miss :mad:
What happened?

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:44 PM
Sweden had an open goal :o and they messed it up

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 07:51 PM
Full Time 1-1
Golden Goal Time :mad:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:01 PM
Sweden had an open goal :o and they messed it up
Thanks. :mad: :fiery:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:03 PM
Full Time 1-1
Golden Goal Time :mad:
Come on Caroline!! You have to keep Pinz at bay! :)

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:03 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :fiery:

snoop
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:03 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

TheBoiledEgg
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:03 PM
:crying2: :bigcry: :sad: :(

Roxers
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:04 PM
we are the champions!!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

snoop
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:07 PM
btw, I played with one of the german girls in my youth team. She was the only girl but one of our best players ;)
Go Nia :yeah:

waaaaaaaaaa, and she scored the game winning goal :woohoo:

:bowdown: Nia

I bet we will have a lil party here when she comes home :aparty:


Congrats Germany :yippee: :yippee: :yeah:

King Aaron
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:08 PM
Damn it!!! :sad: :( Did I jinx them?! :sad: :(

Roxers
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:09 PM
NIA :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

WOOHOOOO!!!! CONGRATS !!!!!!!!!!

Joana
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:19 PM
Deutschland
:worship: :worship: :worship:

Hawk
Oct 12th, 2003, 08:39 PM
Congrats Germany! :D

Great game Sweden ;) Their fowards gave the German defenders fits :o

matthias
Oct 12th, 2003, 09:40 PM
:banana:
it was a great final
but i think when you see the whole tournament Germany deserve the title!!!

well done Nia :woohoo: i love her ears ;)

Linn
Oct 12th, 2003, 09:51 PM
Good game! See u again in the olympic final, lol!

matthias
Oct 12th, 2003, 09:56 PM
btw, Norway has no chance to defend the olympic gold medal, because Greece as host will be part and so there are just 2 spots left for europe!

Tina Theune-Meyer is the first female Coach to win the World Cup - i think thats great :D

salima
Oct 12th, 2003, 10:31 PM
congratulations and Thank you Germany,

I heard the post match interview on Swedish TV :mad:
Rule nr 1: Don`t let athletes talk in a microphone right after they have lost. Sooooooooooooooooooooooo sore looosers. BUUUUUh :mad:

Linn
Oct 12th, 2003, 10:51 PM
Or...change channel if you don't like it.
At least Sweden is going to the olympics!

Joana
Oct 12th, 2003, 10:58 PM
Whaaaat??? No Norway at the Olympics??? :fiery: :mad: :fiery:
Greece will lose 0-5 anyway, what a stupid decision!!!

Hawk
Oct 12th, 2003, 11:47 PM
Whaaaat??? No Norway at the Olympics??? :fiery: :mad: :fiery:
Greece will lose 0-5 anyway, what a stupid decision!!!

Greece is the host country. Of course it's fair they have a team there..that's part of the privilege of hosting the Olympics.

btw speaking of the Olympics..Why do Germany and Sweden automatically get the spots while the US and Canada have to qualify? :confused: Sorry if i'm wrong..but I'm going under this assumption.

Kuilli
Oct 13th, 2003, 12:35 AM
Congrats Germany! Great win! :D :D

CC
Oct 13th, 2003, 05:29 PM
Boy oh boy, loser-girls sure can bawl. I mean I've seen men cry after losing, but not all out weeping like it's the end of the world. :p

CC
Oct 13th, 2003, 05:49 PM
Loser-Swedes:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20031012/i/1515709478.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031012/i/2108541764.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/xp/20031012/i/2480227450.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031012/i/4237799994.jpg



Loser-Americans:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031006/i/851185812.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031006/i/1731496866.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/xp/20031006/i/1951493556.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/ap/20031006/i/3751848059.jpg


Loser-Canadians:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031006/i/2837041343.jpg

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/xp/20031006/i/2098941458.jpg

Can’t say I’ve seen much weeping and gnashing of teeth from the Canadians though. Maybe because they didn’t expect to do so well.

Hawk
Oct 13th, 2003, 07:20 PM
:sad:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031006/i/997734644.jpg

Their reactions were stronger during the actual match. After the second goal one of our players put both of her hands over her face and then did exactly what you see Neil doing in the pic above :sad:

I listened to their post match interviews and comments..they were really gutted, they just didn't show it on the field. Tough front :p


Sweden was pretty crazy though..one of their players was sitting on the ground and you could see her shoulders shaking..she was bawling :o

CC
Oct 13th, 2003, 07:33 PM
:sad:

Their reactions were stronger during the actual match. After the second goal one of our players put both of her hands over her face and then did exactly what you see Neil doing in the pic above :sad:

I listened to their post match interviews and comments..they were really gutted, they just didn't show it on the field. Tough front :p


Sweden was pretty crazy though..one of their players was sitting on the ground and you could see her shoulders shaking..she was bawling :o

Yeah, I saw that. It must have been Toernqvist. I kinda burst out laughing at how dramatic they were.


http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/afp/20031012/i/854328738.jpg

I was sorry for Victoria Svensson though. She worked so hard. :sad:

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/gen/fifa/20031012/i/2179606533.jpg

Hawk
Oct 13th, 2003, 08:14 PM
Svensson got on my nerves..during the whole Canada game and alot of the Germany game she would bitch and moan about every call that went against them :rolleyes:

But her and Ljungberg did work their asses off :worship: They're both so incrediably fast :eek:

Dramatic indeed :p They were lying all over the field like they'd been shot :p

*Bubbles*
Oct 14th, 2003, 02:34 PM
Congrats Germany! :) They deserved it.
Too bad for Sweden, but I love them anyway :kiss: and silver is not that bad.
I don't think them crying is weird. This is what they have worked they're entire life for, of course it hurts to lose a final, especially after working so hard and leading at half time.
Hanna Ljungberg is just fantastic! :hearts:
oh and why did Germany really get that free kick? :confused:

treufreund
Oct 14th, 2003, 04:22 PM
Deutschland :banana:

stop whining Sweden. good tournament overall :yeah:

Liinn
Oct 14th, 2003, 05:12 PM
Just as Bubbles said our swedish girls cryed cos this is what they´ve dreamed about and worked so hard for...
and this is the second finale in a row sweden have lost to germany..
2 years ago they lost the finale in the european championchips to germany...
But even if they lost the finale, they are heros here in Sweden...almost half of the swedish people saw the finale...that's an all time record in sweden...And yeah Ljungberg really is a fantastic player...for years she have been the best in sweden...in this tournament svensson has been the best..but Ljungberg still is my favorite..and will always be the best for me...sweden will be back to the olympic next year...and we will not lose a finale again...

Linn
Oct 14th, 2003, 06:51 PM
Not even the umpire knew why Germany got that free kick, one of them apologized to Victoria after the game, telling her it was a mistake. But it's nothing to think about, Germany won and they played a great game.
A friend of mine sat in the audience in Los Angeles and he told me Sweden seemed to be the favourite team, they had tons of support, that's great. At least they seemed to make a good impression over there!
I wish you guys could have seen the girls arriving in Sweden today, it's been on TV and it's been crazy, AND they are really happy, no more tears.

Hawk
Oct 14th, 2003, 07:34 PM
Not even the umpire knew why Germany got that free kick, one of them apologized to Victoria after the game, telling her it was a mistake. But it's nothing to think about, Germany won and they played a great game.
A friend of mine sat in the audience in Los Angeles and he told me Sweden seemed to be the favourite team, they had tons of support, that's great. At least they seemed to make a good impression over there!
I wish you guys could have seen the girls arriving in Sweden today, it's been on TV and it's been crazy, AND they are really happy, no more tears.

I'm pretty sure there was a foul on the play..I can't imagine they would've been allowed to set up for the free kick if there wasn't.

I think the US crowd was going for Sweden because the Germans took out the American team :o

Linn
Oct 14th, 2003, 09:07 PM
Or because they were hotter.

Linn
Oct 14th, 2003, 09:10 PM
Oh, and yeah it was'nt probably a foul on the play, but why did one of the umpires apologize?

Hawk
Oct 14th, 2003, 09:38 PM
Oh, and yeah it was'nt probably a foul on the play, but why did one of the umpires apologize?

I didn't hear about the ump apologizing :confused: but if you look at the MatchCast you'll see in the 98th minute Svensson fouls Stegemann. Right after that in the same minute is when Germany took the free kick and scored.

Maybe it was cause they're hotter ;) Some of the Swedes looked very cute in their pigtails :angel: :D No offense to the Germans..but some of their players.. :o :tape:

Linn
Oct 14th, 2003, 10:40 PM
Yeah i know, did you see the match though? Cause i do understand that some ppl think it's not a foul and at the same time it could have been so...
Victoria Svensson told in an interview that one of the umpires apologized after the match and said it was'nt a foul.
Mm, yeah, some of the Germans players *cough*

Hawk
Oct 15th, 2003, 12:11 AM
Yeah i know, did you see the match though? Cause i do understand that some ppl think it's not a foul and at the same time it could have been so...
Victoria Svensson told in an interview that one of the umpires apologized after the match and said it was'nt a foul.
Mm, yeah, some of the Germans players *cough*

Yeah I did watch the match. I don't remember that exact foul lol..but I don't recall thinking it was a bad the call when Germans got the free kick..none of the players complained either :confused:

No offense but honestly the officiating in this tournament wasn't top notch :p I wouldn't be totally surprised if it did turn out to be a bad call. Earlier in the match Garafrekes was clearly fouled in the box and no call was made. The Swedish player missed the ball all together and tripped up Garafrekes :o

Liinn
Oct 15th, 2003, 05:21 PM
I think both svensson and the head coach domanski-lyfors complained when the germans got the free-kick...and yeah the umpire did apologize after the match...

upperkut
Oct 16th, 2003, 02:40 PM
no offense to the Swedes, but they advanced further in than in their wildest dreams... They were lucky against and off-day Brazil, and then got lucky again when they drew a spirited but inexperienced Canadian side instead of powerhouse China.

But, as they say, it's the luck of the draw, and the Swedes deserve praise for taking advantage of their opportunities. I don't see them doing any better in the Olympics though, I think both Germany, Norway, China and the US are stronger teams..

Hawk
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:15 PM
no offense to the Swedes, but they advanced further in than in their wildest dreams... They were lucky against and off-day Brazil, and then got lucky again when they drew a spirited but inexperienced Canadian side instead of powerhouse China.

But, as they say, it's the luck of the draw, and the Swedes deserve praise for taking advantage of their opportunities. I don't see them doing any better in the Olympics though, I think both Germany, Norway, China and the US are stronger teams..

Well they don't have to worry about Norway..Norway isn't going to the Olympics.

I'm not sure they would've lost to China..Sweden has a good attack and China's attack never got off the ground.