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Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:25 PM
The opening ceremony goes to crap? Where's Diana Ross? Where's Queen Latifa? We get some poor old broadway musical with a whinny voice and rejects from flash dance gyrating on a big red circle? UGH.

Jordan.
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:25 PM
:haha:

gweeny
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:26 PM
It is definetely a little hard to watch and listen too. This is not inspirational. I guess Pete sampras likes this type of music

Brens
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:27 PM
Pray tell, more! :eek: :lol:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:31 PM
Why couldn't petey boy just retire and disappear like his off court life? i mean he was never a media whore so why does he need this big send off? Give him a freaking gold rolex and pat his ass out the door already with that no talent wife of his who has the personality of stale toast. I hope for his poor kids sake that personality skips a generation.

GoDominique
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:32 PM
Why an opening ceremony anyway ?

SJW
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:33 PM
bwahahahhahahhahhha :haha:

Brens
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:34 PM
Bushy-browed Pete just wants attention. :mad:

He grates :fiery:

alleycat
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:34 PM
Why couldn't petey boy just retire and disappear like his off court life? i mean he was never a media whore so why does he need this big send off? Give him a freaking gold rolex and pat his ass out the door already with that no talent wife of his who has the personality of stale toast. I hope for his poor kids sake that personality skips a generation.

:haha: :haha:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:35 PM
Why an opening ceremony anyway ?

True, but a song like the national anthem is good but why sing some broadway tune that nobody knows? i dont get it. does usa own the show on broadway? next are we going to get cameos by usa network stars like that old 80s molly ringwald guy whats his name? Gimme a break!

Sing the freaking national anthem, but the dancing, and play the goddang tennis already.

treufreund
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:35 PM
what are you so contemptuous of Sampras, a true champion and the greatest player ever arguably. is it because he has done more than venus and serena combined???

Venus Forever
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:38 PM
It truly was a bad performance, very bad.

Joana
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:39 PM
I really respect Sampras, but I think Steffi retired with way more tact. He should have done the same thing she did.

Gospodin
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:40 PM
give sampras a break. he has achieved a great deal in his career.

and besides, not everybody thinks diana ross and queen latifah are "great". :rolleyes:

seriously, i wish the williams are here to play too to make this grand slam a contest of the best of the best. but they're not here. live with it and stop slagging it for everything and anything trivial. if you cant stand watching a gs tournament without your faves, there are other things to do. ride a bicycle or something.

CC
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:41 PM
Yay. Kim is on now!

I remember that Amber Lui from the NCAA Championship match -- a solid college player.

Martian Willow
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:41 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that the absence of the Williams sisters lies at the heart of this musical debacle. :)

SJW
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:41 PM
what are you so contemptuous of Sampras, a true champion and the greatest player ever arguably. is it because he has done more than venus and serena combined???

yea everyone who dislikes Pete is because he's won more slams than our faves :tape:

i respect Pete as a champion, but ive never liked the guy.

Malin
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:46 PM
Steffi had a big farewell thing at MSG, Pete is the greatest tennis player ever, he deserves a huge retirement special.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:47 PM
Who the heck said anything about his career? Why is it that when anyone disses pete all his defenders have to say is " but hes a great champion." whatever. We all know that. His record speaks for itself which is good because he comes across as personable as a wet used napkin.

I dont like pete. In fact he grates my nerves. He never comes across as sincere imo. He rots. But great game, happy now? :rolleyes:

Anyway this is about how the entertainment took a nosedive. Just because my favorites aren't playing some of you act like I can't criticize the tournament? Please I am will commence to point out tacky when I see tacky and that dance number was true debbie allen tacky in the extreme.

also the choir who backed that little girl from the bronx sucked. I only hope that amber can give kim a thrilling match and even better win it!

GO USA!!!

Diya
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:47 PM
Pete is disliked because of some of the reasons below :

1) He doesn't have a BIG MOUTH rather he lets his racquet do the talking

2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis

3) He doesn't have an arrogant father who suffers from "foot-in-mouth" disease

Yeah he doesn't have a real "personality" :rolleyes:

Pete :worship:

GoDominique
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:47 PM
I have never heard someone singing the anthem at AO, FO or Wimbledon. :confused:

-Sonic-
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:49 PM
I thought that Diana Ross did the ceremony at the opening of the Ladies Final????

Bump this thread up in a couple of weeks.

And when would they book these people anyway? I think it'd be WAY before the time Venus pulled out. Celebs don't make their schedules a few days in advance and change them just because of some woman won't whip out her racket.

Freewoman33
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:50 PM
Amber looks solid.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Pete is disliked because of some of the reasons below :

1) He doesn't have a BIG MOUTH rather he lets his racquet do the talking

2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis

3) He doesn't have an arrogant father who suffers from "foot-in-mouth" disease

Yeah he doesn't have a real "personality" :rolleyes:

Pete :worship:

omigod thats not nice to diss jen and her dad.

Martian KC
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:53 PM
Pete is disliked because of some of the reasons below :

1) He doesn't have a BIG MOUTH rather he lets his racquet do the talking

2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis

3) He doesn't have an arrogant father who suffers from "foot-in-mouth" disease

Yeah he doesn't have a real "personality" :rolleyes:

Pete :worship:

:worship: Apparently, most people like assholes like agassi for their brash mouth and toxic behavior.:rolleyes:

Malin
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:58 PM
omigod thats not nice to diss jen and her dad.

Don't worry she wasn't talking about Jen

Knizzle
Aug 25th, 2003, 11:58 PM
Pete is disliked because of some of the reasons below :

1) He doesn't have a BIG MOUTH rather he lets his racquet do the talking

2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis

3) He doesn't have an arrogant father who suffers from "foot-in-mouth" disease

Yeah he doesn't have a real "personality" :rolleyes:

Pete :worship:

I seem to remember Pete dismissing Venus' 127 mph serve by saying he doesn't think she knows where it's going. Then at USO 2001 he had the nerve to ask Serena if her blonde braids were real, and when she looked at him like he was crazy and kept on walking, he said that she was arrogant. Pete is not this saint that everyone makes him out to be.

lizchris
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:01 AM
Pete is disliked because of some of the reasons below :

1) He doesn't have a BIG MOUTH rather he lets his racquet do the talking

2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis

3) He doesn't have an arrogant father who suffers from "foot-in-mouth" disease

Yeah he doesn't have a real "personality" :rolleyes:

Pete :worship:

He doesn't have the French Open, like Serena has.

Why don't you quit while you are ahead?

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:02 AM
Don't worry she wasn't talking about Jen

Funny how the description fits so well though.

Malin
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:02 AM
OMG, he said something mean about Venus and Serena!!! He is the worst person ever!! Somehow I don't think you'd care if he said that about another player.

whiteplains
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:03 AM
Pete did not want to do this press conference, they begged him to, just to create some hype around opening day...and all his people convinced him to do it...

Gospodin
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:03 AM
Who the heck said anything about his career? Why is it that when anyone disses pete all his defenders have to say is " but hes a great champion." whatever. We all know that. His record speaks for itself which is good because he comes across as personable as a wet used napkin.
bullshit. you're sourgraping that your williams aren't playing pure and simple. too bad for pete sampras that he had to retire at the same time your faves are injured. :rolleyes:

I dont like pete. In fact he grates my nerves. He never comes across as sincere imo. He rots. But great game, happy now? :rolleyes:
and the tantrums continue.

Anyway this is about how the entertainment took a nosedive. Just because my favorites aren't playing some of you act like I can't criticize the tournament? Please I am will commence to point out tacky when I see tacky and that dance number was true debbie allen tacky in the extreme.
you can criticize the tournament for these trivial and pointless things. you just did. it is also however obvious that you are doing so for the mere reason of throwing a childish tantrum for something you cant change (the williamses not being here)

grow up.

I only hope that amber can give kim a thrilling match and even better win it!

GO USA!!!
i think she's a break up as we speak.

Diya
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:03 AM
He doesn't have the French Open, like Serena has.

Why don't you quit while you are ahead?


Yeah just like Serena doesn't have SEVEN Wimbledon titles and 14 GS ;)

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:03 AM
I seem to remember Pete dismissing Venus' 127 mph serve by saying he doesn't think she knows where it's going. Then at USO 2001 he had the nerve to ask Serena if her blonde braids were real, and when she looked at him like he was crazy and kept on walking, he said that she was arrogant. Pete is not this saint that everyone makes him out to be.

omigod how rude of him! Does he go up to his wife or her actress friends and ask them if their breasts are real? That was no class pete at his best.

Malin
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:03 AM
Funny how the description fits so well though.

But it doesn't fit as well as Serena and her Dad!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:04 AM
But it doesn't fit as well as Serena and her Dad!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
nope fits jen and stefano like a new pair of tennis shoes.

Diya
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:05 AM
But it doesn't fit as well as Serena and her Dad!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


:tape:

lizchris
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:05 AM
I seem to remember Pete dismissing Venus' 127 mph serve by saying he doesn't think she knows where it's going. Then at USO 2001 he had the nerve to ask Serena if her blonde braids were real, and when she looked at him like he was crazy and kept on walking, he said that she was arrogant. Pete is not this saint that everyone makes him out to be.

I remember that. But didn't he say that because they said that Pete was their idol?

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:05 AM
Yeah just like Serena doesn't have SEVEN Wimbledon titles and 14 GS ;)

I'm sure pete would trade half of his grandslams for a french open title. :lol: I love his last look at his final french open he looked so pathetic and flummoxed. The clay was not his friend.

Rocketta
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:06 AM
Pete did not want to do this press conference, they begged him to, just to create some hype around opening day...and all his people convinced him to do it...

sounds like it might of turned out to be a mistake! :eek: :eek:

r u enjoying your USTA stint?

Knizzle
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:06 AM
OMG, he said something mean about Venus and Serena!!! He is the worst person ever!! Somehow I don't think you'd care if he said that about another player.

Venus and Serena don't say things about other players they only talk about themselves and they still get called arrogant bitches. Can you say double standard??

Martian KC
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:07 AM
OMG, he said something mean about Venus and Serena!!! He is the worst person ever!! Somehow I don't think you'd care if he said that about another player.

Not only that, but he's also labeled as a racist. :lol:

Malin
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:08 AM
I doubt Pete would trade his slams for one French, then he wouldn't be considered the best ever. He holds the record, he wouldn't take that away for a little french title.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:09 AM
bullshit. you're sourgraping that your williams aren't playing pure and simple. too bad for pete sampras that he had to retire at the same time your faves are injured. :rolleyes:

if the williams were playing and they had that tired ass opening I would have said the same thing. So I guess its not sourgrapes now is it?

SO i guess now if any williams fans criticize the open its because their favs aren't playing? who needs to grow up and get a clue? Defintely not me.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:10 AM
I doubt Pete would trade his slams for one French, then he wouldn't be considered the best ever. He holds the record, he wouldn't take that away for a little french title.


Little french title? You sure know what a grandslam title is worth don't you? Anyway youre right about half his slams but what about just two? YOu dont think he would trade two for a french open win? hmmmmm....

Diya
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:10 AM
Then why is the title "OMG The Williams sisters are gone one year and ........." :rolleyes: :tape:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:11 AM
Not only that, but he's also labeled as a racist. :lol:


I didn't know pete was racist? where and when did this come about? what are you talking about?

Martian Willow
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:11 AM
SO i guess now if any williams fans criticize the open its because their favs aren't playing? who needs to grow up and get a clue? Defintely not me.

You mentioned them in the thread title, didn't you? :confused:

lizchris
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:11 AM
Yeah just like Serena doesn't have SEVEN Wimbledon titles and 14 GS ;)

She doesn't have 14 GS titles yet; she is only 21 you douche.

She still has the French and Pete doesn't.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:12 AM
Then why is the title "OMG The Williams sisters are gone one year and ........." :rolleyes: :tape:

Um gone one year? I just saw them at wimbledon, remember? Sure not many tournaments in 2003 but hey thats normal for them anyway.

Diya
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:13 AM
Venus had 4 when she was 21 and how many does she have now when she is 23 ? :tape: Just because Serena has 6 at 21 doesn't mean she'll have 14 or more when she retires :rolleyes:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:14 AM
You mentioned them in the thread title, didn't you? :confused:

and didnt i just say that if the same show had played with them their that I would have responded the same? Does having venus and serena somehow not make crap musicals less crappy? please.

oh and there is the obligatory anthony michale hall interview. whatever usa.

Diya
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:15 AM
Um gone one year? I just saw them at wimbledon, remember? Sure not many tournaments in 2003 but hey thats normal for them anyway.


LOL You could have criticised the opening ceremony without a suggestive title like that .....maybe then it would not have been considered "sour grapes" :tape: Now get it ? Never mind ..i do tend to overestimate others so its OK :tape:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 12:15 AM
Venus had 4 when she was 21 and how many does she have now when she is 23 ? :tape: Just because Serena has 6 at 21 doesn't mean she'll have 14 or more when she retires :rolleyes:

um and this is a revelation for who? Doesn't everyone know this? Yes pete has 14 slams but he still sucks.

harloo
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:17 AM
LOL@the ceremony. I was for sure the rejects from American Idol was gonna come out. Bad Broadway. LOL

I fell asleep, woke up and turned it. TVland was showing Sanford and Son. ROTF.... :D

harloo
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:21 AM
Not only that, but he's also labeled as a racist. :lol:
This statement proves that you are ignorant.

When the hell has Pete ever been called a racist on this board? Tell me that.
:rolleyes:

Freewoman33
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:24 AM
Well, the actually ceremony is nice, but the entertainment was horrible.

Freewoman33
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:25 AM
Hope that man doesn't come back to sing. We don't need a drop of rain tonight. The reservior is fine.

Freewoman33
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:31 AM
That was a nice ceremony. Very emotional and the baby is so adorable.

Freewoman33
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:32 AM
poor kid, he dropped his shoe.

Jasmin
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:45 AM
There seems to be a lot of people that don't like Pete. I like Pete and will really miss him but man... that singer was just toooo white.

ico4498
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:47 AM
My regards to Pete Sampras.

If any tennis career deserves accolades,
If respect isn't dead ...

A celebration was the civil thing to do.

treufreund
Aug 26th, 2003, 05:56 AM
There seems to be a lot of people that don't like Pete. I like Pete and will really miss him but man... that singer was just toooo white.

Oh I guess that should have gotten luther vandross to sing. :rolleyes: :haha:

vs1
Aug 26th, 2003, 06:13 AM
Well...I am of mixed thoughts here.

1. I think that the Pete send-off was sweet. I think that after all he's contributed to tennis...and having won the USO last year, his last tournament played...welll, it was appropriate (in my opinion) to give him a warm goodbye. I enjoyed it.

2. It was surprising how horrid the entertainment was. I was comically amused...and I do think that it had something to do with Venus and Serena (the two biggest stars of women's tennis) being absent. I mean, didn't we get Aretha last year?!?! Anyhow, the was I looked at it was that New York is known for its musicals and this was kind of a nod to that, so it made sense in a way. Anyhow, I'd rather have Aretha ANY day!!! :lol:

At the end of the day...we tune in for the tennis...not the periphical entertainment...so as long as we get great matches and great tennis moments, I'm quite forgiving of the cheesy song and dance numbers. :lol: :lol:

skanky~skanketta
Aug 26th, 2003, 06:25 AM
he still cant be considered the greatest. he would have had to have won the french first.

decemberlove
Aug 26th, 2003, 06:27 AM
Why couldn't petey boy just retire and disappear like his off court life? i mean he was never a media whore so why does he need this big send off? Give him a freaking gold rolex and pat his ass out the door already with that no talent wife of his who has the personality of stale toast. I hope for his poor kids sake that personality skips a generation.


ceremonies such as this one are usually for the fans to provide some sort of closure.

also, just cos a person appears a certain way on tv, doesnt mean they are necessarily that way. isnt that commonsense?


seriously girl, you need to get laid cos you are being a ****. and i say that in the nicest way possible. :)

skanky~skanketta
Aug 26th, 2003, 06:30 AM
i'm pretty sure he'd give one us or wimby title in exchange for the french. its a pity that for the one holding the record, he never proved himself on clay. andre rocks!!!

Couver
Aug 26th, 2003, 06:31 AM
Cybelle honey I don't know why you bothered. Just look at the people you pulled into this thread.

Honestly you can't be surprised by what they are saying. You're a Williams fan so no matter what you say they're going to see something negative.

But I digress it's not your fault.

Jasmin
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:28 PM
Oh I guess that should have gotten luther vandross to sing. :rolleyes: :haha:


I just don't like how that guy sings and those white ass songs. Boring.

lizchris
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:38 PM
Venus had 4 when she was 21 and how many does she have now when she is 23 ? :tape: Just because Serena has 6 at 21 doesn't mean she'll have 14 or more when she retires :rolleyes:

Venus' four is more than you fave, Jennifer, had a that age as well as Serena's six.

In fact, wasn't Jennifer 24 or 25 when she got her FIRST?

They may not have 14 GS titles when they retire. BTW, you know danm well Jennifer won't becasue she will have to play unitl she is about 40.

The truth hurts about Jennifer, doesn't it? That's why you never mention her career accomplshments as opposed to the sisters because you know she can't measure up.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:40 PM
2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis


Of course he does, all great champions do.

I think they needed this badly because this boat is sinking. Apparently most of the fans up and left afterwards, cause I just read an article that called the Hewitt match "poorly attended".

I hope Sharapova makes the final, an all Belgian affair won't sustain the media spotlight.

Serendy Willick
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:42 PM
Venus and Serena don't say things about other players they only talk about themselves and they still get called arrogant bitches. Can you say double standard??


Didnt you get the memo? Other players have the right to do worse because its "The tour getting its edge back" :rolleyes: ;)

lizchris
Aug 26th, 2003, 01:44 PM
2) He doesn't think himself to be god's greatest gift to the game of tennis


Of course he does, all great champions do.

I think they needed this badly because this boat is sinking. Apparently most of the fans up and left afterwards, cause I just read an article that called the Hewitt match "poorly attended".

I hope Sharapova makes the final, an all Belgian affair won't sustain the media spotlight.

John McEnroe said the same thing.

Kim's match was well attended becasue the audience was there to see Pete's retirement cermoney. After than, about half of the crowd bolted. As far as tonight, I'd be very interested to see how well attended Jennifer's match is.

Martian KC
Aug 26th, 2003, 02:37 PM
This statement proves that you are ignorant.

When the hell has Pete ever been called a racist on this board? Tell me that.
:rolleyes:

Oh how dense you willifans are. If anyone offends the williams name, we are labeled racist by you willifans, no?:taped:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 02:48 PM
ceremonies such as this one are usually for the fans to provide some sort of closure.

also, just cos a person appears a certain way on tv, doesnt mean they are necessarily that way. isnt that commonsense?


seriously girl, you need to get laid cos you are being a ****. and i say that in the nicest way possible. :)

You are an idiot if you dont think i know how the man acts on tv doesnt mean he is that way in his private life. Who cares how he is in his private life? I dont. Am I part of petey boys private life? No. His public persona is what I was criticizing I thought that was obvious. I thought that was obvious about any entertainger unless you have some kind of personal connection to them. So in truth if he comes across as a boring piece of cardboard in public then that is his image that I have to work with and comment on.

and on the dick tip trust I get mine. Maybe I can c.o.d you some cause you seem to need it more than me.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Oh how dense you willifans are. If anyone offends the williams name, we are labeled racist by you willifans, no?:taped:

wow stop playing the victim card. "poor us" you're labeling us this you're lableing us that" :rolleyes:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 26th, 2003, 02:51 PM
Cybelle honey I don't know why you bothered. Just look at the people you pulled into this thread.

Honestly you can't be surprised by what they are saying. You're a Williams fan so no matter what you say they're going to see something negative.

But I digress it's not your fault.
:kiss: Luna :kiss:

I know I should finally realize that these people have head rot.

AjdeNate!
Aug 26th, 2003, 02:55 PM
I can't be bothered to read all the negativity contained in one thread, but here's my two cents.

I thought this ceremony was great. Very nice and simple. The sound system was finally good. Aretha & Patti sounded like shit in the past because the bad acoustics and sound. Finally that is remedied.

Pete didn't request the ceremony it was given in his honor. It woulda looked really dumb for him to *not* have shown up..... but then again you would all have something else to bitch about, I guess.

Miss ya Pete!