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pReUrBrIyN
Aug 25th, 2003, 02:55 AM
If Clijsters loses before the semi-finals Chanda Rubin is the 2003 US Open Champion. Here is why I think so...

Rubin has an easy draw to the Quater-Finals and the way I saw her hitting at the Arthur Ashe Kids Day she is in top form.

When she faces Lindsay or most likely Lindsay it will be a win for Rubin because Lindsay is not 100% right now with her injury and maybe Lindsay might lose before the Q-F's! Not to offend any Lindsay fans. I believe that if Lindsay was 100% it would be a tough battle.

Next it would be either Mauresmo or Clijsters if Mauresmo or Clijsters make it that far. Clijsters has a pretty hard draw and Mauresmo still isn't up to par. Giving Rubin a chance to dominate.

If Mauresmo advances to the Semi's Rubin will advance to the Final's because last time Rubin and Mauresmo faced off at the Nasdaq-100 Open (when Mauresmo was healthy) Rubin wooped her butt. If Clijsters advances WHO KNOWS what will happen I believe if Rubin gets to the Semi's she'll have so much confidence that she'll beat Clijsters in 3 tight sets!

Now if Rubin advances to the final the real question is...who will be her opponent. Its as easy as this...Henin-Hardenne or Capriati. Either way Rubin will win because Rubin defeated Capriati earlier this year in a thriller while she KILLED Henin-Hardenne at the Nasdaq-100 Open. If it is Capriati-Rubin it will be a more exciting final!

So this is how I'll wrap it up....

Rubin VS. Capriati

or

Rubin VS. Henin-Hardenne

WINNER = Rubin either way!

GO RUBIN~!~!!~

pReUrBrIyN
Aug 25th, 2003, 02:59 AM
What do you think?

AjdeNate!
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:04 AM
1992-06-22 Wimbledon Grass R128 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-0 7-5
1993-08-16 Toronto Hardcourt R32 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-2 6-1
1996-03-04 Indian Wells Hardcourt R16 Chanda Rubin (USA) 6-3 6-3
1997-01-06 Sydney Hardcourt R32 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-3 4-6 6-3
1997-05-05 Rome Clay R64 Chanda Rubin (USA) 7-6(1) 6-2
1999-11-01 Quebec Indoor Hardcourt F Jennifer Capriati (USA) 4-6 6-1 6-2
2000-03-20 Miami Hardcourt R32 Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-1 6-3
2000-10-02 Filderstadt Indoor Hardcourt R32 Chanda Rubin (USA) 6-0 6-7(11) 6-2
2000-10-30 Quebec City Indoor Hardcourt F Chanda Rubin (USA) 6-4 6-2
2003-03-17 Miami Hardcourt SF Jennifer Capriati (USA) 6-2 6-4
2003-06-16 Eastbourne Grass SF Chanda Rubin (USA) 2-6 7-6(5) 6-2
Jennifer Capriati (USA) leads 6:5




2000-01-10 Hobart Hardcourt F Kim Clijsters (BEL) 2-6 6-2 6-2
2001-07-23 Stanford Hardcourt QF Kim Clijsters (BEL) 6-3 6-1
2002-11-04 WTA Championships Indoor Hardcourt R16 Kim Clijsters (BEL) 6-1 6-2
2003-01-06 Sydney Hardcourt QF Kim Clijsters (BEL) 6-1 6-2
2003-03-03 Indian Wells Hardcourt QF Kim Clijsters (BEL) 6-2 6-3
Kim Clijsters (BEL) leads 5:0




1998-06-15 's-Hertogenbosch Grass R32 Chanda Rubin (USA) 6-1 6-4
2001-08-27 U.S. Open Hardcourt R32 Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) 7-5 7-5
2003-03-17 Miami Hardcourt R16 Chanda Rubin (USA) 6-0 6-2
Chanda Rubin (USA) leads 2:1




1993-03-29 Hilton Head Clay R32 Chanda Rubin (USA) 6-4 6-1
1994-05-16 Lucerne Clay SF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-3 3-0 ret
1994-05-23 Roland Garros Clay R128 Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-7(2) 6-4 6-3
1995-10-09 Filderstadt Indoor Hardcourt R16 Chanda Rubin (USA) 4-6 6-2 6-4
1996-03-04 Indian Wells Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-0 6-3
1999-07-26 Stanford Hardcourt R16 Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-3 6-7(2) 6-3
2000-07-24 Stanford Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-3 3-6 6-1
2000-10-09 Zurich Indoor Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-2 6-4
2001-06-18 Eastbourne Grass SF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-1 6-1
2002-07-29 San Diego Hardcourt R16 Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-2 2-6 6-1
2002-08-05 Los Angeles Hardcourt F Chanda Rubin (USA) 5-7 7-6(5) 6-3
2003-07-28 San Diego Hardcourt QF Lindsay Davenport (USA) 6-3 6-3
Lindsay Davenport (USA) leads 9:3

whiteplains
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:20 AM
Please, everytime Chanda is presented with an easy draw at the slams, she usually falters and loses to someone she has no business losing to.

disposablehero
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:25 AM
If Kim doesn't win it, Chanda would be my second preference.

switz
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:43 AM
i love chanda, and want her to win more than anyone (even my favourite patty), but you're concentrating too much on the ifs and what happened last time they played. this is a new tournament, chanda has to prove she is fit, she has to beat two players she has ordinary records against to advance to the final and then you have to remember that although capriati may have lost the last time they played, she thumped chands in miami on hardcourt.

no doubt chanda can make waves at this tournament, but i think we're better served following the old cliche of taking it a match at a time.

ys
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:45 AM
Chanda will be out by the third round.

kim&lleyton4evaz
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:49 AM
In 1997, Chanda Rubin played the 1st match of the US Open on Ashe court. She came in injured. She got owned by a fat Tanasugarn. History may repeat itself.

Chanda's not getting by Lindsay anyway. Thanks.

~|Naomi|~
Aug 25th, 2003, 03:59 AM
well that's a BIG if and IF mauresmo beats kim, that means mauresmo is in red hot form, so she'd beat Rubin.
Obviously you want Kim to lose before the semis as you think honestly kim would beat Rubin, so i say if someone and whoever it is beats Kim then they will beat rubin

Fingon
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:37 AM
What do you think?


You evaluate a player's form by the way they play in Arthur Ashe's kid's day? :tape:

Fingon
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:38 AM
Chanda will be out by the third round.

now we know that Chanda will NOT lose in the third round :bounce:

Knizzle
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:42 AM
In 1997, Chanda Rubin played the 1st match of the US Open on Ashe court. She came in injured. She got owned by a fat Tanasugarn. History may repeat itself.

Chanda's not getting by Lindsay anyway. Thanks.

Lindsay will be hampered with injury most likely, which could allow Chanda to move her around.

switz
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:43 AM
You evaluate a player's form by the way they play in Arthur Ashe's kid's day? :tape:

i agree it's a big leap to say good form there = chanda winning the title, but i think that he/she was saying that because it's the only time anyone seen chanda hit since earlier in the summer.

good call about ys' comment - although now that i think about it i do think that myriam could challenge chanda (if they both get there).

btw fingon do you know if patty and babsi are playing doubles together? and if not who they are playing with?

switz
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:45 AM
In 1997, Chanda Rubin played the 1st match of the US Open on Ashe court. She came in injured. She got owned by a fat Tanasugarn. History may repeat itself.

Chanda's not getting by Lindsay anyway. Thanks.

nice comments. you're a class act (i'll let you work out whether or not i'm being sarcastic)

Fingon
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:45 AM
i agree it's a big leap to say good form there = chanda winning the title, but i think that he/she was saying that because it's the only time anyone seen chanda hit since earlier in the summer.

good call about ys' comment - although now that i think about it i do think that myriam could challenge chanda (if they both get there).

btw fingon do you know if patty and babsi are playing doubles together? and if not who they are playing with?


no, I don't know if they are playing together. They were going to in Toronto so I assume they will here now that they are both playing, but I am not sure.

switz
Aug 25th, 2003, 04:47 AM
that's good to hear

Jeff
Aug 25th, 2003, 05:07 AM
The thing that makes players grand slam champions is not only the fact that they are top players, but also that they have the capability of playing consistent tennis through seven straight matches.

Chanda Rubin just is not consistent enough to win a slam. If she does, well then I guess I shouldn't open my mouth :lol: But just because she has the ability to defeat Capriati, Mauresmo etc. She has to get there first, and she has to play well the entire two weeks. She has yet to do so.

Tennisace
Aug 25th, 2003, 05:57 AM
Please, everytime Chanda is presented with an easy draw at the slams, she usually falters and loses to someone she has no business losing to.

Her name is Maria Vento-Kabchi ;) :D

Jeff
Aug 25th, 2003, 06:01 AM
Her name is Maria Vento-Kabchi ;) :D

Lol

switz
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:40 AM
The thing that makes players grand slam champions is not only the fact that they are top players, but also that they have the capability of playing consistent tennis through seven straight matches.

Chanda Rubin just is not consistent enough to win a slam. If she does, well then I guess I shouldn't open my mouth :lol: But just because she has the ability to defeat Capriati, Mauresmo etc. She has to get there first, and she has to play well the entire two weeks. She has yet to do so.

i do agree with you in principle, not about how chanda can't win, but that she hasn't proved she can. although then i guess you have to rule out mauresmo and clijsters by that logic, as well as henin considering she has only done it on clay, so she is yet to prove it on a hard-court, a fast one as well.

this is chanda's chance IMO because she often seems to get the top players in GS when she is playing well. wimbledon and the australian weren't great loses, but besides that you'll notice that all her other GS loses for the last two years have been against either the eventual champ or finalist - 03: RG QF LT Henin; 02: US Open 4th Venus 7-5 in the third; Wimbledon - 4th Serena; RG 4th Venus. She was plagued by injuries prior to that and her best result was a semi-final 3 set loss to sels in the 1996 Australian Open (so she came bloody close to playing anca huber for a GS title). she also lost to venus at the australian open in the 4th round in another tight match in 99 or 00 when she made another comeback from injury.

So the way i see it chanda is for first time since 96 playing in GS as a top 8 seed without venus or serena around to knock her over. she has also proved she can beat everyone besides clijsters over the last year. Of course this doesn't mean that she is now guaranteed the US Open crown or even a place in the latter rounds of the tournament, but it does IMO demonstrate that this is a whole new ball-game.

Mattographer
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:44 AM
http://www.wtaworld.com/showthread.php?p=2344623

:angel:

kim4eva
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:53 AM
I support Kim :) ...but we still have to wait for things to know who'll win!!
I think Kim's the stronger one though....not being bias ;)