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Knizzle
Aug 23rd, 2003, 09:56 PM
Did you hear the tennis fans booing because Lindsay had to retire in the second set?? I know this was probably the second time they saw a quick retired match at this tourney, but I still will never understand why fans boo players when they retire or pull out because of injuries. Are they supposed to hurt themselves just so the crowd can see a completed match.

Bella
Aug 23rd, 2003, 09:59 PM
No, you couldn't draw that conclusion. There are other conclusions you could draw, though. Keep working on it. You're right there.

villa
Aug 23rd, 2003, 09:59 PM
Very rude but when you pay the money they did to see the match its only normal there dissapointed- besides you will always get that small unclassy minority...

Hendouble
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:00 PM
Yes, it's sad, but I suppose they felt robbed of two good matches considering it came on the back of Mauresmo's retirement yesterday. But hey, imagine how the fans in Paris felt last year, when both the singles and doubles final had to be decided by walkover...

Knizzle
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:01 PM
Yes, it's sad, but I suppose they felt robbed of two good matches considering it came on the back of Mauresmo's retirement yesterday. But hey, imagine how the fans in Paris felt last year, when both the singles and doubles final had to be decided by walkover...

Dokic, of all people pulled out with an injury.

Knizzle
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:02 PM
No, you couldn't draw that conclusion. There are other conclusions you could draw, though. Keep working on it. You're right there.

Enlighten me.

SJW
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:06 PM
tennis fans are rude.....English soccer fans seem less rude to me, considering they like a hooligan sport ;)

Hendouble
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:19 PM
Woh, SJW, keep a sense of proportion here. When tennis fans start storming the court and regularly hurling abuse at the players, let me know (of course, I'm talking about tennis fans in the Northern hemisphere here, we already know it's caught on in South America...).

jbone_0307
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:26 PM
They have the right too. They paid good money for those ticket and for the final to not go over an hour w/no good tennis. Lindsay shouldn't have played if that were the case

starr
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:28 PM
I don't like booing at any time........ unless it's booing the umpire.

Booing during baseball games is almost expected though. :)

Maajken
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:29 PM
yeah im sure the fans would have prefered not to see any tennis at all :rolleyes:

jbone_0307
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:30 PM
well yeah, maybe the could have gotten their money back or Lindsay let dementieva get in the finals. Shes done this a couple of time too.

Maajken
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:34 PM
well her toe seemed ok yesterday so there was no reason to let elena win, she couldnt have known het foot was gonna be so bad today

Joana
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:51 PM
Probably beacuse they weren't fans.

Bella
Aug 23rd, 2003, 10:51 PM
"I know this was probably the second time they saw a quick retired match at this tourney…"

It isn't cause and effect, Knizzle. You can't hear the booing and conclude that they want the player to play and risk injury. There isn't always a "here is why I'm booing" thought. They weren't happy. That's it.

Crowds talk through booing, clapping, yelling, (but preferably not at the ballet) and so on. We are pre-conditioned to do that. They don't sit down and tell the people on the court, the tournament people, and the rest of the crowd what they think or how they feel.

They are not all polite. They don't have to be. They are not all Lindsay fans. They are not all sympathetic. They are not all totally enamored with the players and just glad to see them. The ticket-buying fans were hot, tired and disappointed and some expressed it. They do that.

People boo as a crowd or within a crowd at all sorts of events. Sports crowds are big booers. Think of them as talkative, opinionated, passionate, and obstinate about being right in their interpretation of how the game goes. They are talking. Again, people aren't always nice.

They are not going to support this sport by going to events if they have a dress code, a speech code or a booing restriction. "You may not criticise players. You may not boo. You must applaud. People in the 'cheap-seats', as we like to call them, must not boo; you may applaud when you hear the ones in the more costly seats have begun applauding."

If fans have a complaint or suspicion about a particular player, then there is logical thought. Nagyova, for instance, probably gets a quite a few boos. Lindsay has retired a number of times. She might have gotten booed personally. That may have brought on her tears. She may have cried out of frustration, though, but she said she knew the crowd was disappointed.

Some people did that. I'm sorry for Lindsay, but it's gonna happen. I know she takes it seriously.

I didn't mean to be coy. I just know that is a political issue on this board, if you don't see that answer yourself, I figure you aren't going to see it.

"I know this was probably the second time they saw a quick retired match at this tourney…"

starr
Aug 23rd, 2003, 11:44 PM
Nice post.

Remember NY fans booed Rafter when he was so desperately hurt and had to withdraw from his night match. Sometimes the crowd is simply ignorant about what is going on and the true extent of the player's injury.

TonyP
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:00 AM
Actually, tennis crowds are quite docile. Try attending a hockey game some time. Crowds boo loud enough to bring down the house the moment the away team takes the ice.

You don't have to "do anything" to generate booing at a sporting event. Booing for many sports fans simply indicates they favor the opponent of the person they are booing.

And yes, tennis crowds are becoming less docile and polite, but then, so is the world overall.

Manners are slowly slipping away. Drivers in America use their turn signals only if they feel like it or if a cop is around. They stop for pedestrians in a crosswalk only if there is no alternative.

Young people working as clerks in stores rarely say "thank you" to their customers. The customer might say "thank you." The clerk says "no problem." Of course, idiot, it wasn't a problem. It was your job! You got paid to ring up the purchase.

"Yeah, whatever."

I never thought I'd see an American tennis crowd boo Monica Seles, but they did in Miami in 2000 when she lost love and love to Hingis. Martina was clearly embarrassed and was quick to say she thought Monica must have had some kind of injury, which she did.

The crowd didn't care. It had paid full price for tickets and expected a full, hard fought match for its money.

Anyone who has seen "Bend it like Beckham" might note the Indian girl in that movie wants to live her own life, but still respects her family and ethnic traditions.

There is a scene early in the movie where the girl and her older sister meet some older family friends on the street. They stop, put their hands together and nod their heads in a traditional Indian greeting.

It might look corny to some. It looked like a respectful custom to me that we Westerners might profit from.

Unfortunatly, most of the world is turning, not into "Bend it like Beckham," but "Animal House."

Bella
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:20 AM
Rocky was beat up, swollen and bloody. He wobbled; he got his bearings; and he beat that Russian or whoever that was. The other guy.

Lindsayfan
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:30 AM
are you kidding???Lindsay said she received a standing ovation during ceremony and u said they boohed her?u saw an other match or u r just biased vs lindsay?

Lindsayfan
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:32 AM
Q. Speaking of the fans, you took the microphone, apologized to the fans, they responded with a standing ovation. Did that get to you?

LINDSAY DAVENPORT: No, I was crying. I mean, you know, stuff like that, I feel very bad for the fans that are there. I mean, that was very sweet of them to respond the way that they did. Certainly wasn't expecting that. It was overwhelming. I mean, a lot of emotions going through my mind. They were very, very supportive of me.

Q. You have fans in every city. You say the right things in every city. To have that happen and to have them stand...

LINDSAY DAVENPORT: It was very overwhelming. There's not many times I've cried on the court. You know, like I said, a lot of emotions, disappointment, but I was very touched they would still support me in that way even though I felt I let them down.

Knizzle
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:53 AM
are you kidding???Lindsay said she received a standing ovation during ceremony and u said they boohed her?u saw an other match or u r just biased vs lindsay?

No, they did boo Lindsay when she first walked to the net and retired the match. They gave her a standing ovation(which I didn't know about at the time of this thread), but it still doesn't take away from the fact that they booed when she retired the match.

By the way check my signature and you'll see how I feel about Lindsay. ;)

Knizzle
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:56 AM
Actually, tennis crowds are quite docile. Try attending a hockey game some time. Crowds boo loud enough to bring down the house the moment the away team takes the ice.

You don't have to "do anything" to generate booing at a sporting event. Booing for many sports fans simply indicates they favor the opponent of the person they are booing.

And yes, tennis crowds are becoming less docile and polite, but then, so is the world overall.

Manners are slowly slipping away. Drivers in America use their turn signals only if they feel like it or if a cop is around. They stop for pedestrians in a crosswalk only if there is no alternative.

Young people working as clerks in stores rarely say "thank you" to their customers. The customer might say "thank you." The clerk says "no problem." Of course, idiot, it wasn't a problem. It was your job! You got paid to ring up the purchase.

"Yeah, whatever."

I never thought I'd see an American tennis crowd boo Monica Seles, but they did in Miami in 2000 when she lost love and love to Hingis. Martina was clearly embarrassed and was quick to say she thought Monica must have had some kind of injury, which she did.

The crowd didn't care. It had paid full price for tickets and expected a full, hard fought match for its money.

Anyone who has seen "Bend it like Beckham" might note the Indian girl in that movie wants to live her own life, but still respects her family and ethnic traditions.

There is a scene early in the movie where the girl and her older sister meet some older family friends on the street. They stop, put their hands together and nod their heads in a traditional Indian greeting.

It might look corny to some. It looked like a respectful custom to me that we Westerners might profit from.

Unfortunatly, most of the world is turning, not into "Bend it like Beckham," but "Animal House."

Booing in team sports is different. In tennis, one of two people will be booed. I especially don't like it when they do it to the women for absolutely NO reason, an injury is even worse.

Kart
Aug 24th, 2003, 01:05 AM
I'm sorry to hear that people were jeering at Lindsay.

After all she has provided on court for USA tennis fans over the years it's a shame they couldn't treat her better.

At least they made up for it by giving her an ovation at the end.

Hopefully that's the part she'll remember about today.

Ballbuster
Aug 24th, 2003, 01:35 AM
There are entirely too many retires. I don't see many retires in Slams. These gals are hitting with power like jr. men but as soon as they get a minor ache...(especially since they are losing) they quit.

Quite frankly, I'm getting sick of this progressing problem.

1jackson2001
Aug 24th, 2003, 02:27 AM
Maybe they should have a sign at the entrance to the tournaments: "Rude people not allowed"

;)

griffin
Aug 24th, 2003, 03:39 AM
I was in that crowd. There were a VERY few scattered boos, which sucks, but most people were applauding both Jenn and Lindsay as they walked off the court. There were people yelling "Woo" (as in "woohoo") - that may have been what you heard.

Sadly, there are jerks everywhere, but me I'd rather focus on how much support the crowd as a whole showed her.

Mateo Mathieu
Aug 24th, 2003, 05:25 AM
Typically, American crowds always booed anywhere :rolleyes:

bis2806
Aug 24th, 2003, 06:32 AM
griffin, i hope the fans there respect Lindsay based on the tough condition she's facing now.... :sad:

Fantastic
Aug 24th, 2003, 04:02 PM
Tennis crowds are quite polite compared to many other sports. Team sports have the worst crowds. It's definitely ignorant to jeer someone, but at least the New Haven fans weren't throwing molotov cocktails or knives at the players. It could have been worse.

Experimentee
Aug 24th, 2003, 04:09 PM
I dont agree with booing at all. In other sports it may be ok, coz its the whole team getting booed, but when your just one person out there on the court by yourself its very intimidating and of course your going to take it personally. Its wrong to boo anyone, it shows ill manners and lack of compassion. Esp. for a crappy reason like injury.
I can understand if booing was bc of bad behaviour, but injury isnt something to be booed at.
However tennis fans are not the most rude, in fact they're the least rude if you've ever watched any sport like soccer or basketball.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 24th, 2003, 04:11 PM
lol!the worst crowd:french....the french 03, juju vs rena. gawd!i've never seen anything like it!of course i admit at that time i was happy cuz i wanted juju to get all the support she needed but i still thought it was awfully unfair and certainly wouldnt do it myself. and they have a reputation of doing so.

weirdest crowd: americans. at least the french dont boo the french players during the match, only if they've lost. but americans boo the americans during a match, its crazy.

best fans: so far the best i've seen are the canadians, especially at the canadian masters(atp), where it was obvious they were rooting for larose, but still gave the same amount of cheer for andre.

Vincent
Aug 24th, 2003, 04:15 PM
I hate being booed and i think everybody does. I don't believe Lindsay who is such a classy person faked to have injury, the crowds should respect her decision to retire, not booing her and blame her for not bearing risks to continue the match against Cappy. anyway, the standing ovation is sweet definitely, i hope Lindsay would feel better and do well in the USO.

SJW
Aug 24th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Woh, SJW, keep a sense of proportion here. When tennis fans start storming the court and regularly hurling abuse at the players, let me know (of course, I'm talking about tennis fans in the Northern hemisphere here, we already know it's caught on in South America...).

tennis is still in the same middle class category as golf for me.....and you dont see the American public booing Woods on the greens

you expect booing in soccer......team sport, and theyre not expected to sit in total silence throughout the match because, as weird as it seems, 40,000 people booing you on a soccer pitch doesnt affect your concentration as much :)

SJW
Aug 24th, 2003, 07:31 PM
ps.....i think the Belgians give the French a run for their money in the rudest crowd stakes....

the best crowds.....the Wimbledon ones. respectful to the players, mainly because their more interested in their Pimms and strawberries and cream than the ACTUAL tennis match

R&J
Aug 24th, 2003, 09:12 PM
Our Fed Cup expierence last year was terrible in part because of the crowd. You would think that it being a Fed Cup match that people would cheer on their country or favourite player. Boy were we wrong - we got the most rudest looks for cheering on the US team and waving the American Flag. There was alot of rich upper class snobs that just wanted to finger clap and shoot disaproving looks at others who wanted to cheer.

*JR*
Aug 24th, 2003, 10:24 PM
Rocky was beat up, swollen and bloody. He wobbled; he got his bearings; and he beat that Russian or whoever that was. The other guy.
Earth to Bella: Rocky was a fictional movie character. Not to say that Sly Stallone wasn't in great shape for his movies but, er, those wounds were created by makeup artists, not (Dolph Lundgren's) fists... :rolleyes: (I wonder what the record for consecutive posts with this "smilie" if you can call it that is).

ClareBalding
Aug 25th, 2003, 12:17 AM
Tennis crowds in Englandshire are not rude, they're jolly good sports I say.

decemberlove
Aug 25th, 2003, 01:23 AM
you think tennis fans are bad, go to Philadelphia or Boston wearing a jersey of their rivals.