Jelena DOKIC (YUG) v Mary PIERCE (FRA)
1999 Wimbledon Grass (O) 16 Jelena DOKIC 6-4 6-3
2000 Hilton Head Clay (O) QF Mary PIERCE 3-6 1-6
2002 Amelia Island Clay (O) 32 Jelena DOKIC 6-2 6-0
2002 Berlin Clay (O) 32 Jelena DOKIC 1-6 6-3 6-1
Jelena seems to be playing better tennis especially against lower ranked players beating Shaughnessy 6-4 6-2 last week but succombing to Lindsay's power 2-6 1-6. The week before it was the same story beating Widjaja 6-4 6-4 then losing to Rubin in 3 sets after starting the match 6-1.[i]In her last two tournaments Jelenas only lost to higher ranked opponents and I think the trend should continue here.[i/]
I predict Jelena in 2 tough sets. Jelena always seems to raise her game in the big events ie Wimby, hasnt been losing to lower ranked players lately, and has a good record against Mary who i think plays a similar game but covers the court worse.
It could be the best match in the 2r and a real nail-bitter. Hope they produce the goods cos the first few rounds are usually boring, one-sided affairs.. :bounce:
Aug 23rd, 2003, 05:12 AM
They firstly have to both get there ... but if Jelena can win her first match, I rekon she will can this one.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 05:37 AM
if mary plays like she did at wimbledon she has a good chance of beating jelena imo. but mary hasn't been playing quite as well as what she was at wimbledon and i agree that as the year gets on jelena is starting to do better. it should be a pretty good match but it could also be a very bad match full of unforced errors.
i agree i think jelena would get through this match.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 06:18 AM
Oh I like them both, but I'm going to cheer for Mary. She's older and I guess she doesn't have as much time left as Jelena, so if she gets there I hope she gets a win.
If she played like she did in the 1st round of the AT&T cup, everyone better watch out!
Aug 23rd, 2003, 06:27 AM
I like Mary a lot...of course Dokic more, but still ;)
Anyway, I don't see Mary having a chance against Dokic. Why? Because with Jelena's style of play, and Mary's poor court coverage, Jelena will have Mary tired out in no time, and although Mary has big shots as well, I just don't see her taking control of the match. Jelena will win in straights if this match does happen.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 06:41 AM
jeff i agree but if mary was fitter than jelena she would annihilate jelena...mary has a GREAT serve compared to Jelena, more consistency and power on the groundies due to more spin, and can volley!
If Mary comes out there in top form she has the bigger game than jelena and this will conpensate for her fitness, but i doubt shell be at top form.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 06:53 AM
I think there is a Huge chance that neither player will get to the 2nd round. If they do, Mary in a canter :)
Aug 23rd, 2003, 07:00 AM
I certainly hope Mary Pierce can defeat Jelena Dokic in second round of U.S. open (but firstly she must defeat Slovenian Katarina Srebotnik in first round) to revenge the following competiton:
2002 Amelia Island 6-2 6-0
2002 Berlin 1-6 6-3 6-1
Good luck, Mary Pierce!! :bounce: :wavey:
Aug 23rd, 2003, 07:08 AM
Mary has drawn a player i havent even heard of. Jelena always thrashes Emmanuelle and did so at Wimbledon 2 and 1.
Atleast when you make statements please try to back them up!!!!!!!!
Aug 23rd, 2003, 01:17 PM
i think the outcome of this match, which is more likely to occur with srebotnik being seeded now, really depends on which mary and jelena rock up. pierce hasn't had a great summer, but at the same time she has lost her matches in tight encounters and usually to opponents who go further in the tournament (eg raymond pushed capriati all the way and suarez went desperately close to the final in canada).
i tend to think that if the pierce who beat daniilidou at wimbledon this year turns up then she has the upper hand. you can't really compare mary to widjaja or shaughnessy because she has so much more ability than they do, it's just a matter of whether she brings it to the court or not.
of course jelena also has a lot more ability than she has been showing, so it really is one of those matches that seem a bit futile to attempt to predict an outcome for.
it will be an exciting match to watch. although i guess i should be hoping emanuelle gets through because she's swiss, but to honest i would hate to see dokic lose to her.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 02:49 PM
I think Mary will win in straight sets. She is showing a lot of improvement this year from last year, 2002 was a pretty bad year for her, and two of those defeats are from that year. I think Mary can make a good run at the US Open this year, possibly make the QF with her draw.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 02:53 PM
to tell ya'll the tuth ive never had and interst in either of them (maybe because i dont watch them) but i think at the moment mary has a better game the Jelena who is just slowly falling down in the rankings and i think Jelena is getting a case of the jenny's who also chokes in 3s matches
Aug 23rd, 2003, 03:59 PM
It's probably will be all about Jelena and damn UEs. Sure Mary has big game, but Jelena's mindset will make the dif.
Aug 23rd, 2003, 09:38 PM
It could be a good match for sure. For me the favourite is still Mary. Yes Jelena leads in head to head but two of that matches took place during Mary's health problems. I sow that match in Hilton Head where Mary crusched Jelena. I agree that Mary isn't the best runner but i also think she would be the one who would dominate. With her big shots She can easily "kill" Jelena who isn't a great runner either and considering power of the game Dokic could learn much from Mary.
Good LUCK MARY :bounce:
Jelena I am sorry :devil:
Aug 23rd, 2003, 09:46 PM
Umm...this match is not even for sure yet, and with Jelena's "outstanding" play as of late, an upset could be in the making in r1.
Aug 24th, 2003, 09:26 AM
I hope so :devil:
And Why polishprodigy ??? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Aug 24th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Looking at Jelena's history against Gagliardi, i would think she will get through, however with her present form it is a bit unpredictable, both players havn't had the best of summers but both love the big games..... My bet is they both get through to through and Jelena will win in 3 sets, i think it will be a tough match, error ridden, but Jelena's concentration, focus and fitness will give her the upperhand towards the end of the match!!!
But anyway may the best player win!!!
Aug 24th, 2003, 04:53 PM
i pray for MARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
she can beat jelena.
she knows it if she stay focus to her game she will do...
GO MARY GO MARY you have a good draw!
make some things possible!
we love you
Aug 25th, 2003, 10:06 AM
mary is obviously not in "her" performance lately.
plus her bad coverage on court right now.
dokic has pretty good chance.
but according to the way she played lately.
this match is interesting :rolleyes:
oh but if mary is in WB form against Danilidou.
dokic would be a piece of cake for her.
but I have to say Dokic right now :wavey:
Aug 25th, 2003, 05:47 PM
Jelena hasn't played well lately...Mary will crush her.... :)
Go Mary !!
Aug 25th, 2003, 05:55 PM
Maam will slap Jelena silly in 2 sets!
Aug 27th, 2003, 07:28 PM
i've changed my mind.
;) dokic 's ready to go home
Aug 27th, 2003, 09:36 PM
Btw everyone, did Mary renew her contract with Nike? I remembered that their contract ran out and that she was wearing non-designer clothing during the summer hardcourt season but then I saw a picture of her at the open with a nike sign on her shirt? If they did renew mary, then thats great becuase Mary Pierce does not deserve to be sponsorless.
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:12 PM
ajmo jelenom! :D
Sep 4th, 2003, 07:55 AM
In second roung of U.S. open, Mary Pierce was defeated Jelena Dokic 6-2, 6-7, 7-6.
Well done!! :bounce: Mary Pierce, you defeat Jelena Dokic to revenge of the following matches in 2002:
Amelia Island 6-2 6-0
Berlin 1-6 6-3 6-1
I hope you can get the best scores in U.S. open, but I not hope you injury again!! :sad:
Sep 4th, 2003, 08:53 AM
dont forget the 6-4 6-3 thrashing jelena gave her at 16 years of age :D at wimby!
Sep 4th, 2003, 10:33 AM
But It Is Not Compared To Clash In Hilton Head The Following Year Where Mary Smashed Her 6-3 6-0 :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Sep 4th, 2003, 11:05 AM
thats out of context, he was raising jelena's wins and why mary's victory was so sweet after having such a poor record.
Sep 4th, 2003, 11:46 AM
I was there at the Open watching this match...and I have to say, it was really exciting. Mary went for broke when Jelena was serving at 5-1, hitting three service return winners out of 5 serves. She really picked up her game. Jelena had some great points as well, it was a great match to watch. I hated to see either one of them lose...
Afterwards Jelena said that Mary hit the ball harder then anyone she knew, stating that Mary hit some shots that she didn't even see...