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RayDay
Feb 1st, 2002, 06:02 PM
I wonder how many ppl on this board like rap music? who is ur fav rapper, rap group and other stuff? i'll start off on this. My fav artists, groups are

Dr. Dre:cool:
Snoop Dogg :cool:
Eminem :cool:
Tupac :angel:
Bone Thugs :D
Wu Tang :D
and D-12 :cool:

The rappers i hate are

Puffy :fiery:
Biggie (a good rapper but a bitch ass) :fiery:
everlast :mad:

sartrista7
Feb 1st, 2002, 06:09 PM
I like some rap music... Eminem's a genius, so's Dre. I love Snoop's sound but his lyrics are just terrible. There's lots of ace hip-hop stuff on this Lyricist Lounge compilation I have - there's a track by Sarah Jones, 'Blood', which is one of the best songs I have EVER heard. 2Pac's great - 'California Love'! - as are the Wu Tang Clan (though don't have much of their stuff). I really want to hear some stuff by Princess Superstar, she's meant to be ace. Missy Elliott's fantastic.

Puff Daddy is an utter twat. Biggie... no talent. Jay-Z really pisses me off. (That 'Girls...' song... wtf is all that about?)

thefreedesigner
Feb 1st, 2002, 06:26 PM
Is DMX rap?? I'm guessing 'yes'. He's cool. A lot of people (I know)namecheck that guy, uh, fat guy, oh God, um, Jay-Z. But I'm not altogether keen meself!

Mos Def
The Roots
Wu Tang
Dilated Peoples
Outkast
Busta Rhymes... is OK

I find I get irritated really easily by it though.

sartrista7
Feb 1st, 2002, 06:32 PM
Can't believe I forgot Outkast. The Dungeon Family LP - sort of Outkast and their mates - is the bomb too.

Beige
Feb 1st, 2002, 06:43 PM
Nas
Jay-Z
De La Soul
A Tribe Called Quest
Benzino
Lil Kim
Mobb Deep
Mister Cheeks
Ja Rule
Ghostface Killah

I listen to mostly rap and R&B these days.

thefreedesigner
Feb 1st, 2002, 06:49 PM
Tribe Called Quest. :)

Also, forgot Rah Digga.

Candy946
Feb 1st, 2002, 10:43 PM
I don't listen to rap all that much coz I'm more of an Alternative Girl. When I do listen to rap/hip hop, I like Nelly, Toya, Destiny's Child, Eve, MaryJay Bleige, Lil Kim, Eminem is alright sometimes, some old skool like Tupac, house of pain ect.. (Everlast sucks).


Rappers I totally dislike are:

DMX- I get a headache, only like 1 song
Mistikal- uughhhhh his voice gets on my nerves
Ja Rule- same goes for this one
Juvenile- eww they're just plain dirty
Genuwine- blahhh, he's gay
Isley Brothers- they're contagious

Candy946
Feb 1st, 2002, 11:00 PM
Ohh my bad, it's "R&B"

Like I mentioned, I don't really listen that much to this category of music, so please excuse my mistake.

Peace

Jessica02
Feb 2nd, 2002, 01:10 AM
I love this song i just dont know who its by it contains a few swear words so i aint go write the words.

As for real cool rappers:

1 Dre
2 ja Rule
3 Mystikal
4 Nas
5 Jay Z

As for rappers with no talent and style:

1 P. Diddy
2 P. Diddy
3 P.Diddy
4 P Diddy
5 ..all of the above..

A4
Feb 2nd, 2002, 01:18 AM
Well, I'm impressed, thefreedesigner. You seem to like rap a bit.
As for rappers, guess I'd have to go with Nelly(?), Mystical, Dre, Jay-Z , Eminem etc etc. I prefer hip-hop though

shirley
Feb 2nd, 2002, 02:46 AM
I can put up with Eminem and Missy Elliot :p

Maajken
Feb 2nd, 2002, 02:47 AM
Oh i dont like it at all :o

tiger
Feb 2nd, 2002, 02:55 AM
rap music ---> great :fiery:

my favs are eminem and X-zibit, Dr. DRE too

but the best are D-12

tiger
:cool:

Princess Fiona
Feb 2nd, 2002, 02:56 AM
"Can I Kick It? YES YOU CAN!!" :D ;)

errrrm, that's the extent of my rap knowledge, I'm afraid :o

thefreedesigner
Feb 2nd, 2002, 02:42 PM
I've tended to like rap through constant exposure to it. Like all the years I've spent in arguments with friends about all these artists like that I'd never heard of (Ja Rule, Jaheim, DMX, Beanie Siegel), and I just kind of dismissed it.

But when you hear it like for 2 years constant, you just get a greater appreciation. Like I said, I still get irritated by it far more easily than I would by something with lots of loud guitars in it!!!

Will Dr Dre ever make the Hall of Fame? Cause he should.

A4
Feb 2nd, 2002, 04:37 PM
Yeah, I perfectly understand the part about liking increasing with exposure. Until recently, I didn't see what all the hype was about U2, though this may not make me the most popular poster here. And I actually listened to an Incubus song today, and liked it too!
Back to rappers. I believe I should mention Jay-Z again. Hard Knock Life was smooth when it came out and still is. Plus I left out missy Elliot.

sartrista7
Feb 2nd, 2002, 09:04 PM
you really like 'Hard Knock Life'? I didn't think anyone did :eek: such an annoying song. Those samples from Oliver and Annie weren't the best of ideas.

Jessica02
Feb 3rd, 2002, 01:26 AM
Dre is like the Hingis of rap was the best, is the best and will always be the best.

Jay-Z though is a very good rapper his music is really catchy and 'hard knock life' is just a classic.

Snoop is alright but he is just a pupil of dre
Eminem the same except he has a bit more edge.

As for Ja Rule, Nelly both in the pop charts often their songs are hip-pop as opposed to hip-hop but i still like themand think they are really good.

A4
Feb 3rd, 2002, 02:05 AM
Well, Sartrista, I actually thought the sampling made it different in a sense, added some more dimensions, as opposed to the alternative.
Jessica, I'll allow you the Hingis comment for now since you like Hard Knock Life too. :)

BCP
Feb 3rd, 2002, 03:14 PM
I like old skool hiphop like:

De La Soul
Jungle Brothers
A Tribe called Quest
Guru, and GangStarr

Guru's Jazzamatazz series is absolutely brilliant:)

Beige
Feb 4th, 2002, 06:23 PM
I thought "Hard Knock Life" was annoying too but in terms of sampling it was innovative for the time. It's nice to see hip hop break away from what I call "The Puffy Law" of using familiar old school (Earth Wind & Fire, Diana Ross, Chic, etc) as the foundation for their rhymes.

My vote for most creative sampling was Lord Tyriq & Peter Gunn's use of Steely Dan's "Black Cow" on "Uptown Baby".

The downside is that sampling has made R&B so shallow. There's little originality these days in R&B mainly because they sample too much. In other words, very few R&B albums released today features pure, original music. When Mary J. Blige, for example, samples The Supremes she must include their composer as one of the writers of MJB's song.

sartrista7
Feb 4th, 2002, 06:39 PM
Beige - I agree about the sampling. There's such a thing as going overboard with it, which certain artists don't seem to have realised. But the *real* innovators of hip-hop and r&b - Timbaland, Missy Elliott, the Neptunes, Outkast - don't have that problem.

One thing which I *do* think is killing hip-hop is the fact that a lot of it isn't about anything other than how great the rapper is. They use language creatively, originally and fantastically, but there's a definite need for a new subject matter. If one can criticise Alanis Morissette and Fiona Apple for being self-obsessed, how much more can you criticise Nelly and Ludacris? Ten years ago, Public Enemy had things they felt needed to be said about society; as Cipher Complete said on the amazing compilation Lyricist Lounge Vol 1, hip-hop artists right now need to move away from bragging about how great they are and how much money they're making and 'bring hip-hop back'.

Having said that, bragging's all well and good in its place, and Missy's 'Get Ur Freak On' was THE song of 2001.

Thoughts?

Beige
Feb 4th, 2002, 06:47 PM
Agree whole-heartedly! Unfortunately it's the "bling bling" crap that sells. The primary buyers of hip hop in the US are white, suburban teen males so evidentally they eat up the whole over-accesorized, SUV-driving persona of today's rappers, keeping their videos in heavy rotation on MTV and cleaning out the bins at the their local Virgin Megastore. Message rap is still out there (Common, Nas, etc) but they are overshadowed by Top 40 faves like Nelly, who I detest and it has nothing to do with "country grammar". ;)

Raisin
Feb 4th, 2002, 06:57 PM
I'm with you Beige. The Bling bling stuff is just boring and i'm so happy cash money and no limit have disappeared from the rap scene.

I love a Tribe Called Quest
Gangstarr
Talib Kweli and Mos Def (Forgotten their group name)
Nas
Common
Rakim (just can't wait for his new album to be out, heard it will be executive produced by Dre)
I love Dre as a Producer but not as a rapper.
2pac is another great one
CNN
Mobb Deep

I can't stand commercial hip hop except in the clubs.