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Sanneriet
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:37 PM
Weeks at Number One
Steffi Graf 377 weeks
Martina Navratilova 331 weeks
Chris Evert 262 weeks
Martina Hingis 209 weeks
Monica Seles 178 weeks
Serena Williams 57 weeks
Lindsay Davenport 38 weeks
Tracy Austin 22 weeks
Jennifer Capriati 17 weeks
Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario 12 weeks
Venus Williams 11 weeks
Kim Clijsters 4 weeks


I am not sure how long she is "safe" at number one. She has quarterfinalist points at the Open to defend. She can be overtaken by Henin-Hardenne can't she? This list projects her ranking until the end of the Open. I didn't realize that V. Williams held the ranking for such at short amount of time. Of course, all the active players on this list can add to their totals, and Venus seems most likely to do so of all.

Diya
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:41 PM
I don't think the US Open is in her top 17 ? or Is it ?:confused:

I can easily see he get past Jennifer on that list and maybe more

Sanneriet
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:51 PM
Actually, I think you are right. Now that I think about it, didn't Kim go out in the fourth round last year? I was just surprised to see that she has the potential to move ahead of so many players in one block of time.

lizchris
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:53 PM
Kim has fourth round points to defend at this year's USO (she lost to Mauresmo).

Depending on how she does at the USO and how Serena (when she comes back) and Justine do in the fall determines if she will be able to hold on to the number one spot.

Daniel
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:58 PM
yes she will :)

surfinggirl
Aug 19th, 2003, 06:10 PM
If Kim fails to reach the SF of the US Open en Justine wins the US Open, Justine will jump to Number 1.
And then Kim already has 17 best tournaments from this year, so to climb up she has to do bether than her last 17th tournament, while Justine is only at her 15th of the year and doesn't have so many points to defend at the end of the year!
So I'll think Kim has to play great if she wants to keep it till the end!

Hawk
Aug 19th, 2003, 06:33 PM
Do the weeks of the off season count as well? Like the weeks in December..or only the weeks while wta events are being played?

mboyle
Aug 19th, 2003, 06:38 PM
Off season weeks count:) .

Toontje
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:02 PM
If Kim fails to reach the SF of the US Open en Justine wins the US Open, Justine will jump to Number 1.
And then Kim already has 17 best tournaments from this year, so to climb up she has to do bether than her last 17th tournament, while Justine is only at her 15th of the year and doesn't have so many points to defend at the end of the year!
So I'll think Kim has to play great if she wants to keep it till the end!


QF is enough for Kim to hold #1........and when Justine wins the US Open :rolleyes:

Justine can't get enough quality points without Kim and Serena.

If Justine fails to reach the final and Kim wins the US Open........Justine can say goodbye for # 1 for another year.
Justine also played more then 17 tournaments in the last 52 weeks.

Kim Clijsters

Week of Tournament Points Result Tier
2002-11-04 WTA Championships 750 WON Champ.
2003-05-26 Roland Garros 646 F Grand Slam
2003-03-03 Indian Wells 459 WON I
2003-06-23 Wimbledon 440 SF Grand Slam
2003-01-13 Australian Open 432 SF Grand Slam
2003-05-12 Rome 402 WON I
2002-10-04 Filderstadt, Germany 378 WON II
2003-01-06 Sydney 350 WON II
2003-08-10 Los Angeles 298 WON II
2003-05-05 Berlin 295 F I
2003-07-21 Stanford 264 WON II
2003-07-28 San Diego 237 F II
2003-03-17 Miami 235 SF I
2003-02-10 Antwerp 235 F II
2002-09-16 Toyota Princess Cup at Tokyo 210 F II
2003-06-16 's-Hertogenbosch 208 WON III
2002-10-21 Luxembourg 200 WON III
-----------------------------------------------------
Total points 17 best tournaments: 6039 points

2003-02-24 Scottsdale 170 F II
2002-08-26 U.S. Open 122 4e round Grand Slam
2002-10-14 Zurich, Switzerland 107 QF I
2002-09-23 Leipzig, Germany 94 SF II
2003-08-11 Montreal, Canada 57 3e round I


Justine Henin Hardenne

Week of Tournament Points Result Tier
2003-05-26 Roland Garros 1156 WON Grand Slam
2003-01-13 Australian Open 460 SF Grand Slam
2003-05-05 Berlin 440 WON I
2003-04-07 Charleston 420 WON I
2003-08-11 Montreal 401 WON I
2003-07-28 San Diego 391 WON II
2003-06-23 Wimbledon 370 SF Grand Slam
2003-02-17 Dubai 324 WON II
2002-10-27 Linz 311 WON II
2002-10-20 Zurich 169 SF I
2002-11-06 Championsh 144 Champ.
2002-09-29 Leipzig 127 SF
2003-04-14 Amalia Island 127 SF II
2003-01-06 Sydney 126 SF II
2002-09-08 US Open 122 4e ronde Grand Slam
2003-06-16 's-Hertogenbosch 114 F III
2003-02-10 Antwerp 105 SF II
-----------------------------------------
Total points 17 best tournaments: 5307 points


2003-03-17 Miami 101 QF I
2002-08-25 New Haven 1 II

Knizzle
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:04 PM
Yes, most likely.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:18 PM
Kim can pass Venus on the no.1 weeks list.....Venus will probably still have 4 or 5 more slams than she does! How hollow would that be?! Being like sixth on that list without A SINGLE GRAND SLAM!! Thatīs what they call: MILKING the system!

Hazy
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:27 PM
Kim can pass Venus on the no.1 weeks list.....Venus will probably still have 4 or 5 more slams than she does! How hollow would that be?! Being like sixth on that list without A SINGLE GRAND SLAM!! Thatīs what they call: MILKING the system!

Bandabou, when are you gonna tell us how you really feel about Kim's #1 ranking?

Knizzle
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:48 PM
Bandabou, when are you gonna tell us how you really feel about Kim's #1 ranking?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

wwins
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:44 PM
Bandabou, when are you gonna tell us how you really feel about Kim's #1 ranking?
How you think anyone with a good mind will think about Kim's #1 ranking?
Beside Serena being injured and Venus too not playing tournaments due to sickness which gives the Belgians the chance to talk even about #1 and #2 rankings, I prefer Henin to Kim for this position. Kim doesn't deserve it.
She got it because she played too many tournaments and the craterium
to be world number #1 has not been met by Kim---that is winning a
grandslam.

RAA
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:49 PM
I doesn't seem that hard for her to hold it longer than venus and ASV.. and maybe even Jenny. after that, you are looking at a steeper climb... Kim's had a helluva year this year.. the only downside to that is that she has tons of points to defend next year... and of course, by this time next year, Serena will have ZERO points to defend during the hard court season and the USOpen..

ans
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:50 PM
Kim can pass Venus on the no.1 weeks list.....Venus will probably still have 4 or 5 more slams than she does! How hollow would that be?! Being like sixth on that list without A SINGLE GRAND SLAM!! Thatīs what they call: MILKING the system!

you really should get rid of your anti-kim-obsession :)

DA FOREHAND
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:57 PM
It will be hella tough for Kim to duplicate the year she had this year, and she hasnt had a "great year" when you put it in open era perspective.

A better question might be where will she be ranked come Wimbledon next year.

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:01 PM
you really should get rid of your anti-kim-obsession :)

Anske, Iīm not anti-Kim....but you yourself donīt think it would like very odd that the player sixth on the all-time lisr for weeks no.1 probably HASNīT WON A SINGLE GRAND SLAM?! Whereas the others all have AT LEAST three?!

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:02 PM
It will be hella tough for Kim to duplicate the year she had this year, and she hasnt had a "great year" when you put it in open era perspective.

A better question might be where will she be ranked come Wimbledon next year.

Exactly...No " great" here! Only " milked"......she has semiīs at all her tournaments...the only way to gain will be finals and winning. To do that she will have to start to ACTUALLY beating people.

Dava
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Depends how she does at the Open.

Kart
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Anske, Iīm not anti-Kim....but you yourself donīt think it would like very odd that the player sixth on the all-time lisr for weeks no.1 probably HASNīT WON A SINGLE GRAND SLAM?! Whereas the others all have AT LEAST three?!

OMG has Kim not won a grand slam ?

I'd never have guessed ;).

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:05 PM
OMG has Kim not won a grand slam ?

I'd never have guessed ;).

There you know it, now! ;)

Hazy
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:08 PM
How you think anyone with a good mind will think about Kim's #1 ranking?
Beside Serena being injured and Venus too not playing tournaments due to sickness which gives the Belgians the chance to talk even about #1 and #2 rankings, I prefer Henin to Kim for this position. Kim doesn't deserve it.
She got it because she played too many tournaments and the craterium
to be world number #1 has not been met by Kim---that is winning a
grandslam.

Where in the WTA rules did you find this "craterium"?

ans
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:12 PM
Anske, Iīm not anti-Kim....but you yourself donīt think it would like very odd that the player sixth on the all-time lisr for weeks no.1 probably HASNīT WON A SINGLE GRAND SLAM?! Whereas the others all have AT LEAST three?!

yes it's a bit odd indeed. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO STATE THIS EVERYTIME YOU POST. If it's that important to you, put it in your sig or make your own website about it...whatever.

jenglisbe
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:16 PM
I don't see why it will be tough for Kim to duplicate her year. Do you all think she will suddenly start losing to Cpariati, Rubin, Dokic, etc.?? Lindsay will likely be retiring soon, but I don't see her threatening Kim, anyway.

Kim's main threats next year will be the Williams sisters and Henin. Considering Kim can't face any of them before the semis of any tournament, it should be easy for her to make the SF in the first few majors again.

If Kim can get her mental game together, she might start winning some of these matches and have an even better 2004 than she has 2003 (i.e. she might can beat Venus or Justine in the SF in Australia).

bandabou
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:58 PM
yes it's a bit odd indeed. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO STATE THIS EVERYTIME YOU POST. If it's that important to you, put it in your sig or make your own website about it...whatever.

No need Anske.....it ainīt THAT bad with me.