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DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Let the outcries begin! Can you believe she said that?

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:54 PM
Let the outcries begin! Can you believe she said that?

No one cares what Myskina says, she is not a Williams sister. If Justine said this it would just be confidence.

Bella
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:57 PM
Oh, come on. She hasn't been saying it for years. If she said it, then it's the first time that I can recall. There is a big difference in saying you gave one away and saying you gave all of them away. So…do you really not know the difference or is this opportunism?

Diya
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Funny how most 'top' players who lose to Anna P. say similar things :rolleyes:

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:03 PM
There is no difference. If you lost a match in which you think you played poorly thus "giving the match awy" it doesn't matter if you say it once or three times. Her opponent said it could have gone either way, and that she won the key points. The point is when you lose it's because the other player played better on that day period end of story.

Martina said the game had passed Steffi by and that Steffi was too old and slow, to my knowledge she only stated this once...that was enough for remarks to comeback and bite her in the ass! Twice!

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:04 PM
Oh and thank you Bella. I was wondering how long it would take before we got the "double standard" post.

lizchris
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:07 PM
Isn't this the same person who said that neither Serena nor Venus could beat Kim at the AO? If I were her, I'd worry more about my game because something is wrong when you can't beat a person who is playing in her first hardcourt match this summer (Anna played on clay most of the summer) and is ranked lower than you.

alexusjonesfan
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:07 PM
lol, nastasya's getting pretty dramatic these days :lol:

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:08 PM
Russian arrogance! Anna had it now Myskina

Mase
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:10 PM
Thats a shady ass comment :rolleyes:

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:10 PM
Just like Myskina declared Clijsters was the best in the world after Clijsters beat her at the AO 2003, and that Kim would win the tournament. Myskina gives herself too much credit.

Beat
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:12 PM
"I don't think she won the match"

Then why is she playing the second round and you're not?


:lol:

Mad-About-Venus
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:27 PM
It must be a Russian thing Isn't this exactly what Anna K said about Venus when she lost to her at the Lipton final in 98 ?

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:30 PM
Something to that affect. I'm glad she said that publically it gave Venus that much more motivation to never lose to her...EVER!

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:30 PM
It must be a Russian thing Isn't this exactly what Anna K said about Venus when she lost to her at the Lipton final in 98 ?

Yes, but Anna Kournikova actually did give that match away- she had Venus on the ropes the whole time, outsmarting her in rallies and at the net, and then she just kind of got too close to the finish line and crumbled. I hated that match- very frustrating to watch.

Kart
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:32 PM
No one cares what Myskina says, she is not a Williams sister.

Actually you're probably right - Myskina is nowhere near as high profile or as well known as the Williams sisters. Less people probably look to her as an icon of sportsmanship.

Still, not a fair thing to say, maybe she's regretting it on her plane home.

Diya
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:34 PM
Yes, but Anna Kournikova actually did give that match away- she had Venus on the ropes the whole time, outsmarting her in rallies and at the net, and then she just kind of got too close to the finish line and crumbled. I hated that match- very frustrating to watch.
:sad: :sad: I agree !

irma
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:35 PM
but it's ridiculous to say that was a good thing

I know she had a bad coach those days but still :o

Rocketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:38 PM
Yes, but Anna Kournikova actually did give that match away- she had Venus on the ropes the whole time, outsmarting her in rallies and at the net, and then she just kind of got too close to the finish line and crumbled. I hated that match- very frustrating to watch.

eh something's not right with this paragraph, I think it has to do with the fact that you have Anna K. & outsmarting in the same sentence. :o :o :o

irma
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:40 PM
anna had never much respect for venus and serena she said somewhere in 96 or 97 that they were not good at all and were overrated

that's kind of ironic, when you look back now how their careers went!

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Yes, but Anna Kournikova actually did give that match away- she had Venus on the ropes the whole time, outsmarting her in rallies and at the net, and then she just kind of got too close to the finish line and crumbled. I hated that match- very frustrating to watch.


She didn't have what it takes to win that tournament, and Venus isn't known for rolling over for anyone but her sister. Anna has yet to prove she's capable of beating Venus Williams.

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:48 PM
Yes, but Anna Kournikova actually did give that match away- she had Venus on the ropes the whole time, outsmarting her in rallies and at the net, and then she just kind of got too close to the finish line and crumbled. I hated that match- very frustrating to watch.

If this was really true you would think Anna would have won at least once in their next 7 meetings right?? She only won one more set in their next 7 matches. I guess Anna doesn't learn from her mistakes.

tazban1
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:44 PM
It must be a Russian thing Isn't this exactly what Anna K said about Venus when she lost to her at the Lipton final in 98 ?

:rolleyes: So many players from so many countries have made comments like this and it's all of a sudden a "Russian thing" just because two of them were born in the same country. :rolleyes:

tazban1
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:48 PM
If this was really true you would think Anna would have won at least once in their next 7 meetings right?? She only won one more set in their next 7 matches. I guess Anna doesn't learn from her mistakes.

Obviously Venus has improved a lot since that match whereas Anna has sort of plateaued and then deeply regressed.

If you watched that match you'd know that Anna dominated the first set and a half and then got tentative/ choked.

alfajeffster
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:52 PM
eh something's not right with this paragraph, I think it has to do with the fact that you have Anna K. & outsmarting in the same sentence. :o :o :o

Well, I used the word lightly. Let's face it, if you want to see an average player look intelligent, give her a coach and a game plan and send her out against Venus Williams. :lol:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:57 PM
Yes, but Anna Kournikova actually did give that match away- she had Venus on the ropes the whole time, outsmarting her in rallies and at the net, and then she just kind of got too close to the finish line and crumbled. I hated that match- very frustrating to watch.


She lost to a better player. If she had been the better player that day or any other times they played then she would have won. She didn't. that sums up her whole career, basically she runs into a better player.

*JR*
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:58 PM
Keep in mind that Myskina sat sobbing @ courtside for 15 minutes after a loss to Sarah Taylor earlier this year. Ironically my friend Mikhail, husband of the late Anyanka (PennyLane of the old GoTennis board) put it best when I was so livid about her reaction to the telephoned request for a condolence message to him during the '02 WTT season. He calmly said that it was no big deal, she was simply "too big for her boots".

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:12 PM
Obviously Venus has improved a lot since that match whereas Anna has sort of plateaued and then deeply regressed.

If you watched that match you'd know that Anna dominated the first set and a half and then got tentative/ choked.

but four more of their meetings were pre-2001 when Anna was still very good player and actually had improved and reached a high of #8 in the world, so there is no excuses for Anna.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:15 PM
"If you watched that match you'd know that Anna dominated the first set and a half and then got tentative/ choked"

If only matches were a set and a half! How many diff. Grand Slam champions would we have?

irma
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:27 PM
career wise venus was already better then anna in key biscane 98 anyway

better grand slam performance
a title
beating the "unbeatable" number 1 twice

so it was not that they were at the same level then anna stucked and venus improved, venus was already better. the gap just got way bigger.

Rocketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:37 PM
Well, I used the word lightly. Let's face it, if you want to see an average player look intelligent, give her a coach and a game plan and send her out against Venus Williams. :lol:

and yet still not smart enough to actually win...............:scratch:

Mad-About-Venus
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:48 PM
:rolleyes: So many players from so many countries have made comments like this and it's all of a sudden a "Russian thing" just because two of them were born in the same country. :rolleyes:

I was sort of joking... :rolleyes: .... I guess you din't get it. No harm intended.

Cam'ron Giles
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:54 PM
Who did she say this about...

Shuji Shuriken
Aug 19th, 2003, 04:05 AM
Well, I used the word lightly. Let's face it, if you want to see an average player look intelligent, give her a coach and a game plan and send her out against Venus Williams. :lol:
If that's the case, 95% of the WTA must be really thick :lol: :rolleyes:

curtain
Aug 19th, 2003, 04:07 AM
pistoleis sux and shuld b ranked outta the top100 so i agree wid myskina!

ProjectMayhem
Aug 19th, 2003, 04:09 AM
To be fair to Myskina, she is about the most hot/cold/hot again/cold again player in the top 10, so when she plays bad, she plays really, really bad.

Berlin_Calling
Aug 19th, 2003, 04:11 AM
I believe Nastya. I saw her practicing today and her coach was feeding her backhands (Nastya's best shot). She hit like one out of five balls in. It was pathetic, her coach fed the balls right to her, she didnt even have to move but still hit most of her backhands in the middle of the net or a foot long. It was sad :o

Ballbuster
Aug 19th, 2003, 04:16 AM
Players like Mysinka MAKE you root against them. When in actuality, they were obscure. However, when they run their mouths they become great targets of your faves. I hope she lands in Venus draw......soon.

~RedRose~
Aug 19th, 2003, 09:20 AM
Myskina said the same thing when she lost to Dokic at the Champs something like 'I played the worst match of my life' or something to that extent ..... when Dokic was told of the comment she just shunned it off something like if she thinks that then wateva ...

servenrichie
Aug 19th, 2003, 10:38 AM
Well, I used the word lightly. Let's face it, if you want to see an average player look intelligent, give her a coach and a game plan and send her out against Venus Williams. :lol:

Quit while you are ahead little boy. You ended up insulting 99.8% of the wta players without even knowing it.

Jakeev
Aug 19th, 2003, 10:44 AM
Who did she say this about...

Sounds like this was said after her loss to Anna Pistolesi on Sunday. But it also seems to contradict what she said in another quote that I had read on Monday that clearly has Myskina giving Anna credit for the win.

She has something to the effect that it was hard to read what Anna was gonna do through out the match because she changes up the groundstrokes a lot.

I think people need to listen or read an entire interview before they make players look so negative.....

-Sonic-
Aug 19th, 2003, 01:27 PM
funny thread people, thanks lol....

rightous
Aug 19th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Anna is very tricky player, ask Clijsters, Daniela, Jelena, Amilie, she's very good on her day, and curtain I think you will find that Anna very much deserves her ranking.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 19th, 2003, 03:02 PM
well, too bad u lil wench!

skanky~skanketta
Aug 19th, 2003, 03:04 PM
anna's game is KEEPING THE BALL IN PLAY!thats why she's had so many scalps!so myskina needs to get over it.

butch
Aug 19th, 2003, 04:10 PM
I have to agree that the Russians do tend to just say things that are either plain rude or just come out wrong. I remember Amelia Isalnd couple years ago when Petrova led Amanda Coetzer 6-4 4-2 40-0. Amanda won the match. Afterwards she was talking about the moonballs and this and that and the other. Not realizing that if you are losing a match (as Amanda was) you have to try ANY shot to win. That's what happened that day - Amanda found a way to win. if Myskina was anywhere as good as she thinks she is, she'd have found a way to win as well. That is what the top players do.

tazban1
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:26 PM
I have to agree that the Russians do tend to just say things that are either plain rude or just come out wrong.

Just like players from every other country.

Daniel
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:28 PM
MYskina :lick: :kiss: :D

tazban1
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:43 PM
but four more of their meetings were pre-2001 when Anna was still very good player and actually had improved and reached a high of #8 in the world, so there is no excuses for Anna.

Their next meeting was a OVER A YEAR after their first. Anna started regressing long before 2001. She was still a very good player for a long time, but she was less than what she was. With each injury she had she lost a little of her game. Not that it matters since this is all completely irrelevant.

All that matters is what happened in that match. Anna wasn't just winning, she was dominating. The match was on her racket and she let it go. She's a choker. We all know she's a choker. And I'm not sure how acknowledging her as a choker is an "excuse".


If only matches were a set and a half! How many diff. Grand Slam champions would we have?

A lot, but this is also completely irrelevant to the point. Though, who knows, if it was a set and a half a choker would most likely just start choking in the beginning of the second set instead of the end.


I was sort of joking... :rolleyes: .... I guess you din't get it.

Yes, I'm sure you'd be perfectly fine if people said "I guess it's a black thing" whenever Venus & Serena both do something dubious as long as they are "sort of joking".

Jakeev
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:33 PM
Anna is very tricky player, ask Clijsters, Daniela, Jelena, Amilie, she's very good on her day, and curtain I think you will find that Anna very much deserves her ranking.


Anna definitely deserves her ranking. She is working hard for it. The biggest step she made was getting herself in to the best shape she has been in her career.

Her game may seem one-dimensional but at least she proves that you can be 5-2 and still play competitive tennis in today's game.

Rothes
Aug 20th, 2003, 03:28 AM
I don't think she won the match
Well 10 minutes ago she did win, so how couldn't she win ;)

Anna P is one of my favourite players, even if her game resembles a brick wall, she is obviously consistent at it, it obviously works in her favour, and heck it obviously wins her games. Anyone who likes to finish rallies early will have a tough time against Anna P, Her main job is to bring the ball back in play with accuracy and wait till her opponent forces a mistake. If the Opponent opens a window oppitunity, Anna P will go for that oppitunity.