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Beat
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:26 PM
good luck to all the players. and yes, that includes patty. ;)

Lindsayfan
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:19 PM
good luck to all my future countrywomen! ;)

Beat
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:15 AM
good luck to all my future countrywomen! ;)


hey vale!! :wavey: so you're moving to switzerland for good?? :eek: :D

Jordan.
Aug 19th, 2003, 08:17 AM
Good Luck Emmanuelle, Myriam, and Marie-Gaiene!

:wavey:

Lindsayfan
Aug 19th, 2003, 01:19 PM
hey vale!! :wavey: so you're moving to switzerland for good?? :eek: :D

i hope it will be for good.i dont think there is an other place as marvelous as switzerland to live in. :angel:

hey Beat,were u an Alinghi fan? ;)

*JR*
Aug 19th, 2003, 01:36 PM
and yes, that includes patty. ;)
I know what that meant, and indeed wish Peppermint Patty all the luck in the world. (Especially re. "winning" her life back)! ;)

Tennisfan-Mtl
Aug 19th, 2003, 01:37 PM
Good luck to Patty, Manu, Myriam, MGM :)

Beat
Aug 19th, 2003, 03:36 PM
hey Beat,were u an Alinghi fan? ;)

nah, not really. it all seemed like one big commercial for the biggest bank of switzerland to me. were you?

Lindsayfan
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:31 PM
i answer you in a PM ;)

GO SWISS GIRLS! :)

Nicoleke
Aug 19th, 2003, 06:39 PM
Allez les suissesses ( Wow, a lot of " s " lol ) :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!

Beat
Aug 20th, 2003, 10:53 AM
Allez les suissesses ( Wow, a lot of " s " lol ) :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!

i like that word, "suissesses"! :yeah:

Beat
Aug 21st, 2003, 09:45 AM
the draw:

Patty Schnyder (Sz/18) - Bea Bielik (USA)

Marie-Gaïané Mikaelian (Sz/32) - Marlene Weingärtner (De)

Emmanuelle Gagliardi (Sz) - Jelena Dokic (Jug/22) again??

Myriam Casanova (Sz) - Eleni Daniilidou (Gr/25) :mad: :unsure:


GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!

switz
Aug 21st, 2003, 11:34 AM
the draw:

Patty Schnyder (Sz/18) - Bea Bielik (USA)

Marie-Gaïané Mikaelian (Sz/32) - Marlene Weingärtner (De)

Emmanuelle Gagliardi (Sz) - Jelena Dokic (Jug/22) again??

Myriam Casanova (Sz) - Eleni Daniilidou (Gr/25) :mad: :unsure:


GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!

the draws are ok i guess.

if patty doesn't turn up i doubt she'll win, because from memory bielik serves and volleys or at least has a big serve so patty has to at least play to 30% of her ability (that no offense to bielik, it's just that's the level that she usually plays at. she has so much ability).

MGM has been playing much since a good showing in san diego (was it). weingartner is streaking, so who knows? it really depends which players rock up

manu has lost so many times to dokic, but it could happen that jelena has a lot some more confidence from that drubbing davenport gave her. i'd still think it's an uphill battle for manu, but as with all the swiss girl it depends on whether indian wells semi-finalist manu can re-surface.

i think daniilidou is a great draw for myri. you have to say that besides perhaps stevenson there isn't a seed is much worse form. myriam played great in new haven. i wouldn't be surprised if this a routine victory for myriam, although again you can never pick daniilidou either

Lindsayfan
Aug 21st, 2003, 12:23 PM
basing on actual players's form,i think myriam has lots of chances to beat danilidou.patty and MGM shouldnt have problems vs their opponents.
manu will have the hardest job...dokic isnt the the same player of 2 years ago,but she's still tough for manu.i predict a 3/1 w-l after first round.

forza ragazze svizzere! :hearts:

switz
Aug 21st, 2003, 12:43 PM
lindsayfan - i presume you come from an Italian background. where are you living in confederazione svizzera? ginevra? or do you speak romansh?

Lindsayfan
Aug 21st, 2003, 02:11 PM
I live in Italy right now,I've been living in Geneva for few months though.I'll comeback to Geneva next year.Yes I can speak french,italian and english.

Beat
Aug 21st, 2003, 02:21 PM
the draws are ok i guess.

if patty doesn't turn up i doubt she'll win, because from memory bielik serves and volleys or at least has a big serve so patty has to at least play to 30% of her ability (that no offense to bielik, it's just that's the level that she usually plays at. she has so much ability).

MGM has been playing much since a good showing in san diego (was it). weingartner is streaking, so who knows? it really depends which players rock up

manu has lost so many times to dokic, but it could happen that jelena has a lot some more confidence from that drubbing davenport gave her. i'd still think it's an uphill battle for manu, but as with all the swiss girl it depends on whether indian wells semi-finalist manu can re-surface.

i think daniilidou is a great draw for myri. you have to say that besides perhaps stevenson there isn't a seed is much worse form. myriam played great in new haven. i wouldn't be surprised if this a routine victory for myriam, although again you can never pick daniilidou either

patty is - as always - a big question mark. :angel: i don't know anything about bea bielik, and certainly have never seen her play, so i can't make any predicitons.

MGM hasn't been playing for some weeks (was that a typo, switz?), in her last match she retired against petrova, so i have no idea where she stands (still the rib stress fracture bothering her?). theoretically she should come through. it's also quite important thas she's seeded at a grand slam for the first time in her career, so let's hope this makes a difference.

manu will lose, anything else would be a shock. of course dokic's confidence is down, but probably not against a player like emanuelle.

i agree with you and vale (lindsayfan): myriam has been playing really well this week, so this is possibly an upset in the making.

Lindsayfan
Aug 22nd, 2003, 01:20 PM
how come there arent swiss girls in qualifying?

Beat
Aug 22nd, 2003, 04:59 PM
well, there might be 4 swiss players in the top 100, but there's a huuuuge gap after that, the highest-ranked player of the rest being timea bacsinszky at 656... :o

Lindsayfan
Aug 23rd, 2003, 09:07 AM
timea will become very good...she'll give you lots of satisfactions in the future,i'm sure of that! ;)

Beat
Aug 23rd, 2003, 12:57 PM
timea will become very good...she'll give you lots of satisfactions in the future,i'm sure of that! ;)

i hope so! apart from having to write that name ;) cs?sc?zs?sz?

Rothes
Aug 23rd, 2003, 01:45 PM
Darn Beat you bet me to making the Cheering Thread :mad: :fiery: :wavey: :p

ohh well I geuss better late then Never...

ok, moi perceptions...

First we have our lovley Patty Schnyder up against a supposed up and comer Bea Beliek. As Switz said, if Patty is playing a limited amount of her game, or is showing some heat theres no reason why she can't beat Bea. I havn't seen Bea play before, I think the last time I heard her name was at last years US OPEN :eek: All I know is that she has a very fast serve. Patty usually plays well on hard courts, and has had some good preformances here at Flushing Meadows. If Patty wants to past this round, concentration is the key and just go out and play her best, Bea is still in-experienced, and Patty usually starts GrandSlams well (from what I saw at Aussie and Roland Garros)
Im thinking Pattys going to scrape through, but this probably won't be a cakewalk, maybe a close 2 setter, or 3 setter? who knows.

Next we have Marie Gianeh and Marlene Weingartner. Marlene this year has been something of a bundle of inconsistencies, has had some good results that have proved that shes the player she was to be expected, and then some matches where they have been a bit strange, to say the least. Marie has had some good results this year, and thoughout it has played consistently and capable of her ranking. If Marie keeps her game on and her serve is in 5th gear then It's going to be Marie over-powering Marlene this round. If Marlene is playing her "good" game, I still see Marie winning. I say a definite second round for Marie

Next we have one of my faves, Emmanuelle Gagliardi again playing Jelena Dokic. From what Wimbledon had previewed, even with Jelena on the rocky seas shes still capable of beating Emmanuelle. As Beat said hopefully the anhilalation she recieved from Lindsay was enough to rattle her cage abit. If Emmanuelle wants to have any-chance of going through, It's a case of been consistent and playing well (something which usually comes every second day for Emmanuelle) Its possible that Emmanuelle can win, but not her best First Round Match up.

Well Myriam and Eleini, Apart from her win in Auckland, Eleni hasn't really proved much to me this year. though she hasn't had the chance as of the injuries. Myriam in the last few weeks as ignited a little spark in her game, and has powerfully beaten Silvia and Laura Granville, both players ranked higher then what Myriam has, showing that Myriam has the game and the ability to compete. I reckon big prospects for Myriam, and facing Eleni is a good chance to show what she is capable of.

Well its a bit like a lolly scramble for the Swiss. Patty and Marie are capable enough to get to the second round. Emmanuelle has to play a very good game, and Myriam also have a theoretical chance of getting through the next round, though she will need to work at Eleni.

HHHHHOOOOPP SSCCCCHHHHWWWIIIIZZZZ

Jodie
Aug 23rd, 2003, 01:52 PM
Hop MGM! :woohoo:

Lindsayfan
Aug 23rd, 2003, 02:00 PM
apart from having to write that name ;) cs?sc?zs?sz?

what about stanislas wawrinka?he's a rising star with a weird name as well! :p

Beat
Aug 23rd, 2003, 02:06 PM
here are last year's results:

patty 3rd round:
R128 Nadia Petrova (RUS) W 7-6(6) 5-7 6-2
R64 Martina Sucha (SVK) W 6-3 6-3
R32 Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) L 1-6 4-6

MGM 1st round:
R128 Anna Pistolesi (ISR) L 6-7(1) 4-6

emanuelle 1st round:
R128 Vera Zvonareva (RUS) L 3-6 3-6

myriam 2nd round:
R128 Jelena Kostanic (CRO) W 6-4 6-3
R64 Lisa Raymond (USA) L 4-6 2-6

Task
Aug 24th, 2003, 03:34 PM
Good luck to all the Swiss girls, especially Emmanuelle. :) :) :) :)

maya
Aug 25th, 2003, 06:38 PM
:D Patty won first round :D

fammmmedspin
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:32 PM
Did any one else see Patty play? Sky had 5 choices of match so I tuned straight to Patty.

Interesting match. Patty gave a tennis lesson, cruised a bit, let bielik back in a bit by playing for the error (but it worked strategically so perhaps it wasn't a wrong idea), looked rusty in places and looked like she belonged well up the top 10 in others. Serve worked well except once when Bielik worked it out and intercepted it at a crazy angle, there was a OMG look from Bielik at one Patty lob and Patty looked good when she attacked and on the key points.

Doris Loeffel
Aug 25th, 2003, 07:55 PM
thanks for the short report.

Well the tournament started good for the suissesses ;)

Patty and Myriam both won!!
Keep it up that way girsl!!

Beat
Aug 25th, 2003, 08:48 PM
hi doris!! :wavey:

the results:
schnyder def. bielik 6:1 6:4
casanova def. daniilidou 6:3 6:1 a little tear from me for eleni here....

well done, girls - we're proud!! :bigclap:

*JR*
Aug 25th, 2003, 08:50 PM
Bielik is kinda like "I wanted 2B Lindsay Davenport, but maybe I'll be Mirjana Lucic instead" so it's a good start for Peppermint Patty, but not more than that.

Beat
Aug 25th, 2003, 08:51 PM
Bielik is kinda like "I wanted 2B Lindsay Davenport, but maybe I'll be Mirjana Lucic instead"

:lol:


ahhh, come on, relax and enjoy the win. you know it could easily have been different. ;)

Lindsayfan
Aug 26th, 2003, 09:22 AM
CONGRATS MYRIAM! :worship: now that chanda lost there is a huge chance for Miri to get the quarterfinals. (maybe i'm running too fast!:p)

I'll watch Manu today vs Jelena,I'll do a little report tomorrow! ;)

Doris Loeffel
Aug 26th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Looking forward to your report Lindsayfan

Good luck to Manu and MGM!!

Beat
Aug 26th, 2003, 03:03 PM
I'll watch Manu today vs Jelena,I'll do a little report tomorrow! ;)

that'd be great! :)

good luck les filles! :dance:

Tennisfan-Mtl
Aug 26th, 2003, 03:05 PM
Well done Patty & Myriam :)

Good luck Manu today :)

Doris Loeffel
Aug 26th, 2003, 05:48 PM
Well done MGM!!

Too bad Manu (what's up with your serve??)

Well 3 out of 4 still pretty good!!

Good luck in the second round girls!!

Beat
Aug 26th, 2003, 06:47 PM
i'd say our predicitons were pretty accurate! :)

i looked at the stats and it seems marie played a good match; weingärtner didn't have a single break chance!

Lindsayfan
Aug 26th, 2003, 07:18 PM
i saw manu's match:dokic made the game,she hit winners and unforced errors.in first set,dokic's game was poor and there were lots of breaks.but i never had the impression that manu could win first set cos jelena was doing everything by herself,great shots and stupid errors.in second set jelena played a bit better and was able to control the match and finish it.

Rothes
Aug 27th, 2003, 04:55 AM
Well good predictions. Now for the 3,

Myriam Casanova vs Flabiola Zuluga
Patty Schnyder vs Tamarine Tanasurgan
Marie Gianeh Mikaelian vs Obata

Jordan.
Aug 27th, 2003, 05:04 AM
Emmanuelle :(
Myriam, MGM FIGHT!

Doris Loeffel
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:58 AM
Gooo Patty and Myriam!!
Good luck in your second round matches!!

Tennisfan-Mtl
Aug 27th, 2003, 10:59 AM
Emmanuelle :(

But good luck to Patty and Myriam today :D

Beat
Aug 27th, 2003, 11:06 AM
Well good predictions. Now for the 3,

Myriam Casanova vs Flabiola Zuluga
Patty Schnyder vs Tamarine Tanasurgan
Marie Gianeh Mikaelian vs Obata

Patty Schnyder (SUI) vs. Tamarine Tanasugarn (THA)
1998-03-16 Key Biscayne Hardcourt R32 Patty Schnyder (SUI) 6-0 6-2
1999-03-01 Indian Wells Hardcourt R64 Patty Schnyder (SUI) 6-3 6-4
2002-01-07 Canberra Hardcourt QF Tamarine Tanasugarn (THA) 6-2 6-4
Patty Schnyder (SUI) leads 2:1

Marie-Gaianeh Mikaelian (SUI) vs. Saori Obata*(JPN)
2002-08-12 Montreal Hardcourt R48/Q Saori Obata (JPN) 6-3 6-3
Saori Obata (JPN) leads 1:0

myriam and fabiola haven't played each other yet.


i think all matches are "doable", but all of them are tricky, too. it really could go either way. :unsure:

switz
Aug 27th, 2003, 11:36 AM
patty and marie have the tough matches in this round.

Fabiola is a great player and myriam is really going to have to over power her to get past her because she'll get balls back. if myriam plays her game she'll get through comfortably though i would think

patty lost to tanasugarn the last time they played (canberra 02), but patty was in bad form then and she played in her first round match so things look positive (+ patty has won their other two matches). of course tanasugarn is a good hard-court player and most people seem to be picking her to win. i think patty is really going to dictate the outcome of this match. if she's on i think she'll get through in straight sets, if not tanasugarn will win it pretty easily.

MGM is obviously playing well and should really have few problems with obata. i would like to see her get through, because an in form MGM could test henin on a hard-court.

Beat
Aug 27th, 2003, 06:46 PM
tanasugarn def. schnyder 6:4 6:3. the result doesn't seem so bad (apart from being a loss :o ), but patty didn't have a single break ball, so i guess it's fair to say she was without chance. :rolleyes:

Doris Loeffel
Aug 27th, 2003, 08:48 PM
also Myriam lost

Geee I really was hopping for better results today.

(Just as well Roger won after having lost the first set!!)

*JR*
Aug 27th, 2003, 09:50 PM
tanasugarn def. schnyder 6:4 6:3. the result doesn't seem so bad (apart from being a loss :o ), but patty didn't have a single break ball, so i guess it's fair to say she was without chance. :rolleyes:
Uh, Beat, if one didn't have a break ball, it means one didn't GET to either (X)-40 or ad, right? Don't sugar-coat things, this proves (on top of her 1-3 record in matches since the 4th round loss @ RG, inc. a 1-2 record on clay, inc. 1-1 on clay vs. Talaja, that the coachless bit is CRAZY)! :rolleyes:

Beat
Aug 27th, 2003, 10:11 PM
Don't sugar-coat things

i sugar-coat things? eh? :confused:

definitely not a good day, with myriam losing as well.

it's up to MGM now!! :fiery: :D

*JR*
Aug 28th, 2003, 12:34 AM
Beat, it wasn't personal. You can't compare the Schnyder Saga to a regular case of a player losing, esp. as Myriam is only 18 and has the thyroid problem. Re. Patty being coachless, there are more fingers being pointed (in and out of Suisse courtrooms) than Steffi has Slam trophies.

Nicky2002
Aug 28th, 2003, 05:33 AM
Patty ...

"What a poor little thing!" ;)

_____________________
Yeah, I love Tim "Tam"

Doris Loeffel
Aug 28th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Allleeezzz MGM!!

It's up to you now to keep up the swiss flag!!

Good luck MGM!!

Lindsayfan
Aug 28th, 2003, 10:18 AM
Myriam is only 18 and has the thyroid problem.

does she really have? :eek: maybe thats the reason why she's (uh!) fat :o

Beat
Aug 28th, 2003, 12:17 PM
does she really have? :eek: maybe thats the reason why she's (uh!) fat :o

yes, she has. she keeps in contact with a clinic here in zurich, but they haven't found a solution for the problem yet. she's been living off 800 calories a day for quite some time now, which is of course gruelling for an athlete.

Lindsayfan
Aug 28th, 2003, 01:57 PM
yes, she has. she keeps in contact with a clinic here in zurich, but they haven't found a solution for the problem yet. she's been living off 800 calories a day for quite some time now, which is of course gruelling for an athlete.

oh poor girl :sad: i hope she'll be better soon!

*JR*
Aug 28th, 2003, 03:33 PM
yes, she has. she keeps in contact with a clinic here in zurich, but they haven't found a solution for the problem yet. she's been living off 800 calories a day for quite some time now, which is of course gruelling for an athlete.
Beat, ya got a different kind of clinic in Zurich for..... ? :eek: :rolleyes:

Beat
Aug 28th, 2003, 05:04 PM
Beat, ya got a different kind of clinic in Zurich for..... ? :eek: :rolleyes:

they're specialized for this kind of thing, so yes... :p

Rothes
Aug 29th, 2003, 08:11 AM
Mgm :(

Doris Loeffel
Aug 29th, 2003, 09:17 AM
I'm really kind of disappointed after the first round it looked pretty good. But none of the girls were able to profite from the good draws....

Hope all of them will be able to overcome what everproblems they have and will be able to work on.

*JR*
Aug 29th, 2003, 12:58 PM
Hope all of them will be able to overcome what ever problems they have and will be able to work on.
Doris dear: If Peppermint Patty doesn't have Personal Problems according to her mixed up mind...

Beat
Aug 29th, 2003, 08:32 PM
what a load of crap. they all seemed to have pretty good draws etc. etc. and i was really looking forward to a MGM-henin match-up. :banghead:

girls, we are NOT impressed!

fammmmedspin
Aug 30th, 2003, 02:09 AM
Anyone else see Patty play. Last game summed it up error, brilliant crazy angle, error, double fault, good point, hit ball wide......

argh!!!!!!!!

fammmmedspin
Aug 30th, 2003, 02:13 AM
Poor MGM with the thyroid too. Mine decided to go ape a couple of years ago and its amazing what it can do to you - everything from your weight to tiredness to pulse rate not to mention mood can go all over the place.