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Josh
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:11 PM
"I've known my coach Carlos Rodriguez since I was 13, and yet I was shocked with his harsh analysis after Wimbledon. In the future, he never again wanted to see a repeat of that semifinal against Serena Willams. He was right."

"Winning in San Diego, without my coach, is one of the most important steps in my career. It proved that I had learned from Carlos's analysis. In the past, I wasn't able to change my strategy during a match. Now, I (by myself) knew how to found an answer to Kim Clijsters."

"You are looking at a new Henin. One example : for a long time I couldn't cope with the competition of Kim Clijsters. Playing against her suffocated me but now I don't have any troubles anymore when I play her."

"Clijsters's 1st place on the rankings doesn't do anything to me. I focus only on myself."

"I know some players don't like me. That's because I choose my own way. Many try to outplay me with power but I answer with intelligence."

Source : VRT teletekst

irma
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:14 PM
I feel like the book I am reading think yourself to selfconfidence

sadly I am not naive enough for such stuf :o

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:15 PM
Winning in San Diego, without my coach, is one of the most important steps in my career. It proved that I had learned from Carlos's analysis. In the past, I wasn't able to change my strategy during a match. Now, I (by myself) knew how to found an answer to Kim Clijsters"

That's good that she's able to win a tough match w/out coaching from the stands.

""I know some players don't like me. That's because I choose my own way. Many try to outplay me with power but I answer with intelligence."



Oh really? Well she's come up w/seven incorrect answers in a row to Venus Williams. What's so intelligent about running all over the court sqaush shotting balls back over the net.

Cariaoke
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:17 PM
Wow, she just gets funnier and funnier. :lol:

It's like who is she trying to convince? The public or herself?

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Herself

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:19 PM
Its funny how she keeps comparing herself to others...like they are her standard"

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:23 PM
he never wants to see a repeat of the Wimbledon semi......?? he should tell Serena to back off

Cariaoke
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:23 PM
exactly, babe. like it's on Justine's racquet. :tape:

irma
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:24 PM
as I said in the other thread. she had therapy if you just take over what a shrink says then you start to talk like this which is maybe better since it often pays off

I am a little bit jealous, I am too stubborn and always say yeah but.................... after the famous love yourself cliché talk ;)

Hulet
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:31 PM
Seriously, is there a more arrogant player than Justine right now? She is so full of herself. :rolleyes:

Josh
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:37 PM
Is it the same arrogance as saying that you were 9000 notches below your level when you were beaten? Or saying that you weren't beaten but that you beat yourself? Or saying that you can go undefeated this season?

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:43 PM
obviously u cant read. let me give you a little lesson

"my aim is to go undefeated this year" is not the same as "i can go undefeated this year". got it?

so she shoulda said "i plan to get beaten by that Belgian elf 2 times this year"? LMAO :lol:

Hulet
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Josh, re-read my message, especially the "right now" part. Currently, Serena is out of the tour, and Justine is doing a great job outdoing Serena in the arrogance department. Oh, how I would love it when someone spank Justine's a** at the USO!

alexusjonesfan
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:51 PM
Oh really? Well she's come up w/seven incorrect answers in a row to Venus Williams. What's so intelligent about running all over the court sqaush shotting balls back over the net.

This had me rolling on the floor:worship:. The Venus-Justine rivalry is too one sided to be called a rivalry. I dunno why, but I agree that Justine doesn't play 'intelligent' tennis against Venus. The last match I saw of them, she tried to out hit and out retrieve Venus :eek:. Get over the mental block Justine, you ain't gonna beat Venus (or Serena or Kim etc.) at her own game. I hope she brings a sturdier head to their next match.

moby
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Josh, re-read my message, especially the "right now" part. Currently, Serena is out of the tour, and Justine is doing a great job outdoing Serena in the arrogance department. Oh, how I would love it when someone spank Justine's a** at the USO!

this is presumably what most people think when they want serena to lose

Ryan
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Nice of all the ignorant Williams fans to come in and stomp all over Justine for having self-confidence. Weren't you the people that wanted to have the competition believe they can beat Serena, and step up to the plate? Well how the fuck is admitting a match is never "on your racket" stepping up to the plate? Justine *should* be trying to convince herself she can influence her matches against Serena, otherwise she'll never win.

per4ever
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:58 PM
btw this is a thread about Justine..what are all you williamsfans doing in here? You all like to bash her, you know she's a serious thread for your favourites :cool:

spudrsca
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:59 PM
This had me rolling on the floor:worship:. The Venus-Justine rivalry is too one sided to be called a rivalry. I dunno why, but I agree that Justine doesn't play 'intelligent' tennis against Venus. The last match I saw of them, she tried to out hit and out retrieve Venus :eek:. Get over the mental block Justine, you ain't gonna beat Venus (or Serena or Kim etc.) at her own game. I hope she brings a sturdier head to their next match.

Well if you look at the last match against Kim, it's what she has done after a bad start, she hits the ball longer and with more spins and hits some great angles while in the beginning of the match, she was hitting too flat and short.
And Carlos will not forget to remember this to her at the usopen.
I watch an interview of him yesterday in "Week-end sportif" and said he was disappointed by the way Justine played in Toronto, playing too much in the centre and not moving her opponent.

per4ever
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:01 PM
This had me rolling on the floor:worship:. The Venus-Justine rivalry is too one sided to be called a rivalry. I dunno why, but I agree that Justine doesn't play 'intelligent' tennis against Venus. The last match I saw of them, she tried to out hit and out retrieve Venus :eek:. Get over the mental block Justine, you ain't gonna beat Venus (or Serena or Kim etc.) at her own game. I hope she brings a sturdier head to their next match.
oh really and what's so funny about a stupid comment?

Justine lost to Venus last time at the AO. Since Charleston and even more since FO she's a different player. Much stronger mentally and her game is getting better and better. It won't take long before she beats Venus :)

The Crow
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:01 PM
I agree that the last quote can be interpreted as arrogance, but I don't see how the others are arrogant?

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:02 PM
Nice of all the ignorant Williams fans to come in and stomp all over Justine for having self-confidence. Weren't you the people that wanted to have the competition believe they can beat Serena, and step up to the plate? Well how the fuck is admitting a match is never "on your racket" stepping up to the plate? Justine *should* be trying to convince herself she can influence her matches against Serena, otherwise she'll never win.

and werent Henin fans saying ppl dont like the Williams' cos theyre arrogant?

Bobby Brown-"two can play that game"

personally i dont like Justine because i just never have. not because shes a threat. i disliked her b4 she got he first win over the sister :o

actually i dislike her less now than in 2001

Ryan
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:06 PM
and werent Henin fans saying ppl dont like the Williams' cos theyre arrogant?

Bobby Brown-"two can play that game"

personally i dont like Justine because i just never have. not because shes a threat. i disliked her b4 she got he first win over the sister :o

actually i dislike her less now than in 2001



What? I don't see those quotes from Justine as arrogant.


Yes, it's nice to know you dislike Justine, but hwat did that have to do with my reply you quoted?

skanky~skanketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:09 PM
whatever!u hated her cuz me and glenn loved her too much!LOL!:tape: :P

anyway, way to hate justine for believing in herself.:rolleyes:

shap_half
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:10 PM
obviously u cant read. let me give you a little lesson

"my aim is to go undefeated this year" is not the same as "i can go undefeated this year". got it?

so she shoulda said "i plan to get beaten by that Belgian elf 2 times this year"? LMAO :lol:

so what should justine say? "i want to keep being intimidated by that man like bitch?"

you know what i'm not the type of person who wants to make digs at players; clearly i'm using your example to form something that just emulated what you said.

Kart
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:10 PM
"Clijsters's 1st place on the rankings doesn't do anything to me. I focus only on myself."

"I know some players don't like me. That's because I choose my own way. Many try to outplay me with power but I answer with intelligence."


I take it that second quote loses something in the translation.

Still Justine does make me laugh sometimes :lol:.

As long as she doesn't let that confidence turn into complacency I guess it's the right attitude for someone like her.

No on can really argue with her results so she's obviously doing something right.

RAA
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:11 PM
can we interrupt this squabbling for one second..?

Why wasn't carlos with her in San Diego? (sorry if this has been hashed out before.. I've been a tad busy at work...)

if someone could just let me know, then you can go back to your squabbling.
thanks.

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:12 PM
What? I don't see those quotes from Justine as arrogant.


Yes, it's nice to know you dislike Justine, but hwat did that have to do with my reply you quoted?

stomping all over Justine.....not because she has self confidence, but because i dont LIKE HER

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:13 PM
whatever!u hated her cuz me and glenn loved her too much!LOL!:tape: :P

anyway, way to hate justine for believing in herself.:rolleyes:

i seriously dont care who YOU like Veronica

and because Glenn is her fan, i try and be more objective about her...so yes his feelings influence me but not NEGATIVELY. get over urself....seriously :tape:

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:15 PM
so what should justine say? "i want to keep being intimidated by that man like bitch?"

you know what i'm not the type of person who wants to make digs at players; clearly i'm using your example to form something that just emulated what you said.

right. like i said two can play that game. ur fighting fire with fire, something i live by, but "man like bitch" and "elf" are not on par as insults ;):p

alexusjonesfan
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:15 PM
lol, this is friggin hilarious :lol:
*cues the circus music*
Come one, come all, to the world famous WTAworld Bashathon. We're not gonna quit until we're all bashed out.
This week, our special guest is Justine Henin-Hardenne.

Who will it be next week you ask? :confused: Some experts are suggesting a return to the classic bashathons of yesteryear starring the one and only Kimmie Klijsters :bounce:

come on guys, we've practically started a Japanese game show here :lol:

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:16 PM
can we interrupt this squabbling for one second..?

Why wasn't carlos with her in San Diego? (sorry if this has been hashed out before.. I've been a tad busy at work...)

if someone could just let me know, then you can go back to your squabbling.
thanks.

his wife was having a baby

ive met Carlos, and hes a lovely guy in general. its just his comments to the media that leave a lot to be desired :tape:

bwguy
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:18 PM
Help! I can't keep up: I thought it was decided some time ago that, this being a new millennium and everything, we were all to embrace arrogance. Then for a while there, I thought we were to still embrace it, but call it something else like "self belief" "extreme confidence" or just "having a high self-esteem day." In any case, I understood that humility was to be banished. Now there seems to be a backlash against arrogance. Are we to drop our appreciation of it now? Does it depend on who the player is that's putting it out there for us to consume?

Someone's gotta let me know how to feel (and I know I've come to just the right place). Thanks.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:19 PM
one way or another it'd make u a liar cuz u told me on msn that the both of us were a major part of u disliking her.

SJW
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:22 PM
one way or another it'd make u a liar cuz u told me on msn that the both of us were a major part of u disliking her.

im sorry babe, ur not that important

skanky~skanketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:23 PM
sure sure, whatever you say.

Maajken
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:23 PM
what is she on about when she says she plays with intelligence and not power? i saw her play yesterday and she's got as much power as anyone else :confused:

switz
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:27 PM
"Winning in San Diego, without my coach, is one of the most important steps in my career. It proved that I had learned from Carlos's analysis. In the past, I wasn't able to change my strategy during a match. Now, I (by myself) knew how to found an answer to Kim Clijsters."


Source : VRT teletekst

strange quote. i don't now if it is the insert, but it sounds like justine is saying she couldn't change her game during a match unless carlos was there. forgive my ignorance, but is it not against the rules to be coached during a match in any way whatsoever???? i'm not bashing justine, it just seemed like a strange quote, especially from a player often accused of cheating

skanky~skanketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:29 PM
lol@cari!

skanky~skanketta
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:33 PM
girl, you know i wasnt being that serious though right. dont kill me!

irma
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:38 PM
what is she on about when she says she plays with intelligence and not power? i saw her play yesterday and she's got as much power as anyone else :confused:

it's the I am special tactic

saying I am just like the rest is not good enough so she needs to say I am different and others can't stand it

tennisfun
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:47 PM
oh really and what's so funny about a stupid comment?

Justine lost to Venus last time at the AO. Since Charleston and even more since FO she's a different player. Much stronger mentally and her game is getting better and better. It won't take long before she beats Venus :)
It won't take long before she does her on court cheating again. LMAO

per4ever
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:49 PM
strange quote. i don't now if it is the insert, but it sounds like justine is saying she couldn't change her game during a match unless carlos was there. forgive my ignorance, but is it not against the rules to be coached during a match in any way whatsoever???? i'm not bashing justine, it just seemed like a strange quote, especially from a player often accused of cheating

you got it wrong.. you have to know the whole situation before you can understand it. Carlos has been her coach for ages, she trusts him completely and they have become great friends. He's like a dad to her. His presence in a match, nodding with his head, just a small sign gives her the feeling that she's doing everything ok (or not). It's not exactly coaching, it's something all coaches do: supporting their player. It gives players confidence if their coach is there.
Justine has always been very dependent on her coach..she used to look at him all the time during matches. Now she had to play without him, and she learned that she can do without him. She knows how to get her confidence and how to change matches.

hope this is a lil clear :o

fifiricci
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:54 PM
Just to get back to the tennis for a moment: Justine is on for a big arse whooping at the US Open!! Pride comes before a fall!!

servenrichie
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:01 PM
you got it wrong.. you have to know the whole situation before you can understand it. Carlos has been her coach for ages, she trusts him completely and they have become great friends. He's like a dad to her. His presence in a match, nodding with his head, just a small sign gives her the feeling that she's doing everything ok (or not). It's not exactly coaching, it's something all coaches do: supporting their player. It gives players confidence if their coach is there.
Justine has always been very dependent on her coach..she used to look at him all the time during matches. Now she had to play without him, and she learned that she can do without him. She knows how to get her confidence and how to change matches.

hope this is a lil clear :o

Excuse me, taking an injury timeout is hardly anything new, unless of course she is indirectly saying that the injury time-out she took was pure tactics and not because she was actually hurt.

treufreund
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:04 PM
funny how people take beautiful, honest answers from Justine and try to make us believe that she is arrogant or that there is something wrong with what she is saying. I found really moving that the pressure of playing Clijsters was suffocating her but now that she is beating Clijsters it is Clijsters who lashes out and accuses her of gamesmanship and says "fucking shit" during matches. tsk, tsk, tsk Kimmie ;)

Carlos is really tough on her but I think it is ok. He really loves Justine and only wants the best for her. :D

per4ever
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:04 PM
if you saw the match then you should know Justine started to play better after 4-0 in the first set. The injury time-out is just a poor excuse. Justine started to play better in the second and Kim made the errors, too bad for her.

btw it's not about one match. She had a hard match against Dementieva too remember?

Cariaoke
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:08 PM
I thought the :tape: smiley was for things that were better left unsaid...I have no idea how that applies to anything you people say :o Is there anything you haven't yet said and/or explicitly described in graphic detail? :eek:

you'd make Jerry Springer blush
actually, you should read our ims... we are even raunchier. sometimes I feel that my msn will blow up with the things we write.

we're working on making Jenna Jameson blush but no haps. darn!

Diya
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:15 PM
Nice to see that atleast a FEW people are still talking about the main topic of the thread

:rolleyes: @ the others

BTW I like the confidence with which Justine says things these days. She speaks her mind without caring a damn about what other people/ players think about her or her comments.
:worship: Justine :hearts:

selesfan
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:52 PM
as I said in the other thread. she had therapy if you just take over what a shrink says then you start to talk like this which is maybe better since it often pays off

I am a little bit jealous, I am too stubborn and always say yeah but.................... after the famous love yourself cliché talk ;)

LOL! Maybe I should go to her therapist, I need a dose of self confidence. ;)

treufreund
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:13 PM
yeah it definitely sounds much better in French. the manner of expressing things comes across very different when translated

mauresmofan
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:41 PM
Well you'd all better get used to her cause she's favourite - and rightly so to win the US Open and she will be no.1 by the end of the year.

minboy
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:30 PM
It's funny because each time I hear her speaking french I'm always impressed with what she has to say and the way she says it.

When I read quotes in english it's like her IQ dropped by 40, surely that has to be wrongly translated quotes or it's just that she has problems expressing herself in english.


that' s true! French-speaking journalists( belgian, french, swiss ) have ALWAYS praised her intelligence and maturity OFF the court. It has been this way since she started to score some great results back in 2001. Another thing most of them ( french-speaking journalists ) use to say about her is how she's modest and down to earth, while every single american article about justine these days ends up saying how she's arrogant and stuff.
Jutine's english causes her damages.

persond
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:57 PM
Nice of all the ignorant Williams fans to come in and stomp all over Justine for having self-confidence. Weren't you the people that wanted to have the competition believe they can beat Serena, and step up to the plate? Well how the fuck is admitting a match is never "on your racket" stepping up to the plate? Justine *should* be trying to convince herself she can influence her matches against Serena, otherwise she'll never win.


I find it extremely funny how one persons self-confidence is another persons arrogance...!!! I would truely find it at least "heartening when you folks can be consistant" with your analysis of what's arrogance and what's not...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

persond
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:04 PM
What? I don't see those quotes from Justine as arrogant.


Yes, it's nice to know you dislike Justine, but hwat did that have to do with my reply you quoted?


???Could it be that YOUR own biases won't allow YOU to see what's arrogant...??? But, hey, I understand, one persons self-confidence is another persons arrogance...!!! And, you needn't bother to explain, I know the answer already...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

persond
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:11 PM
funny how people take beautiful, honest answers from Justine and try to make us believe that she is arrogant or that there is something wrong with what she is saying. I found really moving that the pressure of playing Clijsters was suffocating her but now that she is beating Clijsters it is Clijsters who lashes out and accuses her of gamesmanship and says "fucking shit" during matches. tsk, tsk, tsk Kimmie ;)

Carlos is really tough on her but I think it is ok. He really loves Justine and only wants the best for her. :D

Another poster who sees "beautiful, honest answers" from one player and leaves it at that, but, sees those same words as "arrogance" from someone else...!!! You too, my friend "speaks with a forked tongue"...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Oh, how I would love for some "consistency" in these peoples' judgements and analysis...!!! But, hey, I know the anwer already...!!!

The Crow
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:27 PM
???Could it be that YOUR own biases won't allow YOU to see what's arrogant...??? But, hey, I understand, one persons self-confidence is another persons arrogance...!!! And, you needn't bother to explain, I know the answer already...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nevermind that, what do YOU think?

Martian KC
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:30 PM
It's hilarious how threatened all these willifans are of Justine!!!:lol:

It's also nice to distinguish classy fans from not-so-classy fans.:lol: Thanks for making it soo easy, willifans.:wavey:

Toontje
Aug 18th, 2003, 09:45 PM
Seriously, is there a more arrogant player than Justine right now? She is so full of herself. :rolleyes:


Pride will have a fall!!!

harloo
Aug 18th, 2003, 10:35 PM
Justine continues to try to make people like her. What a sad little girl.lol
At this point she is not a superstar and she will not be. She is someone who will be remembered for cheating and she needs to accept it and shut the hell up.

Martina had her moments, but she was never this bad. lol

persond
Aug 19th, 2003, 12:01 AM
It's hilarious how threatened all these willifans are of Justine!!!:lol:

It's also nice to distinguish classy fans from not-so-classy fans.:lol: Thanks for making it soo easy, willifans.:wavey:


Threaten...??? Threaten...??? Threaten...??? And, by "what" are the Williams fans threaten...??? And, there you go, lumping all Williams fans together. What's "hilarious" is your perception of the situation. And, as far as class, you wouldn't know class if it bit you in the ass...!!! :) :)

persond
Aug 19th, 2003, 12:07 AM
Nevermind that, what do YOU think?


Need you ask me what I think...??? It should be as clear as the nose on your face what I think, however, I'll clue you in. People seem to accept the most arrogant of statements from Justine and brush them off as "honest", "confidence", etc., and yet those same statements if made by Serena or Venus would be the "height of arrogance". All that I'm saying is be "consistent". Arrogance is arrogance, irrespective of the person exuding it...!!! Fair enough...???

Joana
Aug 19th, 2003, 01:16 AM
Well I think it would be great if all players just said "The other players are great, I should look up to them all the time" or when they lose "Well, she played great, no way I could have beaten her." We'd have so much fun, and it would certainly contribute to the popularity of women's tennis, don't you think?

curtain
Aug 19th, 2003, 01:27 AM
wat an arrogant b****!

henin u suk! :fiery: