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Volcana
Aug 18th, 2003, 11:58 AM
Venus hasn't played since Wimbledon. She isn't playing New haven, and she might not play the US Open. In fact, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if she isn't in daily contact with the USTA, who wants to use her in advertising, but doesn't want (I hope) to defraud the public.

The reality is though, at #5 as it is, she has no need to play, from a ranking perspective. Even subtracting New Haven and US Open points, Venus has a 500+ point lead over the current #8, #9, #10. She;s going to make the field at L.A. even if she doesn't play til then, unless the US Open final is contested by two out of Myskina, Rubin, Hantuchova. (hey, it could happen.)

She's going to be ranked between #5 and #8 no matter what. In a GS, those are all the same seed.


01 (BEL) 6039 22 Kim Clijsters
02 (USA) 5995 11 Serena Williams
03 (BEL) 5307 20 Justine Henin-Hardenne
04 (USA) 3582 19 Lindsay Davenport
05 (USA) 3536 10 Venus Williams

3240 09 Venus Williams (w/o New Haven)

06 (FRA) 2644 14 Amelie Mauresmo

2508 08 Venus Williams (w/o US Open)

07 (USA) 2277 18 Jennifer Capriati

2212 07 Venus Williams (w/o Tour Championships)

08 (RUS) 2039 25 Anastasia Myskina

09 (USA) 2032 18 Chanda Rubin
10 (SVK) 1949 24 Daniela Hantuchova


So she doesn't need the money, she doesn't need the ranking, and she doesn't need the aggravation. So if Venus can't play the US Open, do you think she'll call it a year?

Dava
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:00 PM
I dont think so, becuase I think she DOES need the ranking, also if she does love the sport as much as she claims to I dont think she will take the rest of the year off unless she really needs to.

doloresc
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:04 PM
i'm not terribly optimistic that she'll play the open. she might be better off taking the rest of the year and let the abdominal strain fully heal.

calabar
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:11 PM
I dont think so, becuase I think she DOES need the ranking, also if she does love the sport as much as she claims to I dont think she will take the rest of the year off unless she really needs to.


She does need the ranking? How so. Is there a clause in her endorsement contracts that requires her to be at a certain rank? And if so what is that level? #5, #10?

Inasmuch as I would miss her dearly from the courts, I'd really prefer if she doesn't play and be fully healed for next year, than to try and "salvage" this year and make things worse. Playing because you love the sport is one thing, but playing when you are not ready is foolish.

I trust Venus and her advisers will make the right choice.

Cal.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:50 PM
I hope she is better, she has had more rest than she/her doctors have said she'd need to recover. I want her to play the Open and keep that trophy in the family.

Kart
Aug 18th, 2003, 01:16 PM
So if Venus can't play the US Open, do you think she'll call it a year?

I hope not. I suppose it's all about commitment to the tour/fans and injury. If she's fit enough to play, do we believe she's committed enough to still play lesser tournaments ?

I think so.

Of course, if she's still injured then there's no question really.

Pureracket
Aug 18th, 2003, 01:19 PM
I'm thinking that the only reason she is even attempting to play the Open is because Serena is out. I'm sure she is still thinking in her head of all the vicious things saying about their withdrawing. If she isn't healed, she doesn't need to play.

disposablehero
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:14 PM
I think its pretty naive to suggest the USTA isn't willing to defraud the public.

Paneru
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:19 PM
I think its pretty naive to suggest the USTA isn't willing to defraud the public.

Venus is playing the Open!
Her agent has already said she is looking forward to playing.
Venus will be there! Count on it!

Venus Forever
Aug 18th, 2003, 03:54 PM
i'm not terribly optimistic that she'll play the open. she might be better off taking the rest of the year and let the abdominal strain fully heal.

I'm all for this. :)

I believe, IF Venus pulls out of the US Open, that she just take the rest of the year off, and let the injury heal completely.

She'll be out for over 6 months, which means, she might be entitled to a injury seed just as Lindsay got, not that would matter anyway.

GO VENUS, HEAL UP GIRL!! :hearts:

cool bird
Aug 18th, 2003, 04:23 PM
I think Venus will not take the rest of the year off. She has already signed up for Moscow. I hope she plays fed cup and the end of year champs. Thats all I really care about

Volcana
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:54 PM
I think its pretty naive to suggest the USTA isn't willing to defraud the public.

Okay, I slipped up on that one.

Knizzle
Aug 18th, 2003, 05:58 PM
If Venus is healthy, then I expect her to play more indoor tournaments then ever before. At least 4 of them before the year end championships. She hasn't played alot this year so she shouldn't pull out due to exhaustion, plus Venus likes to travel to Europe.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Aug 18th, 2003, 06:11 PM
Venus is currently in 5th place in the "Race to LA", 800+ points ahead of #9 (Zvonareva). If she doesn't play again before LA, I could see #6, #7, and #8 passing her; one of Mauresmo/Capriati/Rubin would do it at the US Open (most likely). The others could do it indoors in Europe, and Zvonareva or Dementieva could do it with a good enough result at the US Open.

Now, if Davenport/Clijsters/Henin all reach the US Open semis, I'd think that would make Venus safe for LA.

If Venus were to sit out the rest of the year, she'd get an injury ranking, but wouldn't be able to use it for her seeding. The WTA would have to give her a special ranking for that, although I'd bet they would.

Ballbuster
Aug 18th, 2003, 07:19 PM
Venus is Lazy, she don't want to do nothing but lay around in her bed. That's what she said. I'm aghast by that statement. That tells me she's a 23 year old woman whose tired already. If that's the case "so be it"

I'd rather have the Fiery venus at the open than the mousy one. If her heart is not into it then she should get the out the way and let Serena wear the crown. Quite frankly, I'm sick of Venus. (even though I love her)

Sanneriet
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:16 PM
I think it really depends on whether she is suffering from a abdominal strain or tear. I have heard both. A tear is more serious, takes much longer to heal (without surgery), and can really get worse with use.

Miss Thang
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:40 PM
I think she should kick it while the injury heal. She gots to be careful and let it heal so she can back fresh next year. Feel better Queen Vee! :kiss:

Miss Thang
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:42 PM
Venus is Lazy, she don't want to do nothing but lay around in her bed. That's what she said. I'm aghast by that statement. That tells me she's a 23 year old woman whose tired already. If that's the case "so be it"

I'd rather have the Fiery venus at the open than the mousy one. If her heart is not into it then she should get the out the way and let Serena wear the crown. Quite frankly, I'm sick of Venus. (even though I love her)

Ya know I luv me Queen Vee also but I think she lazy but aint it sumthin that these other girls who work they asses hard hittin balls day and night still can't reach Queen Vee's level. :angel: ;)

CJ07
Aug 18th, 2003, 08:49 PM
I think Venus stopped hurting awhile ago, but just wanted to keep it that way.

I think she's fine.

She'll probably play the Open, Moscow and Zurich, the Tour Champs, and then call it a year.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Aug 18th, 2003, 09:19 PM
MMcDonald wrote:
She'll probably play the Open, Moscow and Zurich, the Tour Champs, and then call it a year.

For once it would be nice to see a top play not play any exhibitions in the off-season! :p :devil:

cool bird
Aug 18th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Venus is Lazy, she don't want to do nothing but lay around in her bed. That's what she said. I'm aghast by that statement. That tells me she's a 23 year old woman whose tired already. If that's the case "so be it"

I'd rather have the Fiery venus at the open than the mousy one. If her heart is not into it then she should get the out the way and let Serena wear the crown. Quite frankly, I'm sick of Venus. (even though I love her)

Venus is not lazy the reason that she jokes and saids she wants to spend all day in bed is cos she has low iron in her blood. And that makes her feel tired all the time

tennisIlove09
Aug 18th, 2003, 10:31 PM
Venus is Lazy, she don't want to do nothing but lay around in her bed. That's what she said. I'm aghast by that statement. That tells me she's a 23 year old woman whose tired already. If that's the case "so be it"

I'd rather have the Fiery venus at the open than the mousy one. If her heart is not into it then she should get the out the way and let Serena wear the crown. Quite frankly, I'm sick of Venus. (even though I love her)

Right. Venus has her jewerly line with Avon; Interior Design company; AND is a top ranked tennis player (who has been in 9 of the last 13 Slam finals)...and she's lazy.

Most tennis players don't accomplish what she has...and ALL they do is tennis!

Get well soon Venus--tennis is far too boring without you

starr
Aug 18th, 2003, 11:23 PM
I am sure that Venus practices dilligently. There is no way she could have improved her game and kept her high level of play without practicing. I'm sure she was only joking about lying around in bed all day. She likes to poke fun at herself in this manner.

Sam L
Aug 18th, 2003, 11:37 PM
So she doesn't need the money, she doesn't need the ranking, and she doesn't need the aggravation.

She needs a GS, she hasn't won one in 2 years. If she skips this, she won't get such a good opportunity until Wimbledon next year.

Paneru
Aug 19th, 2003, 12:00 AM
She needs a GS, she hasn't won one in 2 years. If she skips this, she won't get such a good opportunity until Wimbledon next year.

IIRC,
Serena had an almost 2 1/2 year GS drought
before winning the French Open.

If Venus weren't to compete at the USO,
Her next opportunity is in January at the AO!
Remember, she did make the finals.

Go Venus!!! :bounce:

Joana
Aug 19th, 2003, 12:05 AM
God, I hope she'll play the US Open and the rest of the season! It would really be pathetic to see the tour without the 2 best players for so long...
But only as long as she's healthy, because I don't know what would be worse, Venus not playing or her losing to players she should never be.

Monsters
Sep 24th, 2003, 11:19 PM
hopefully she can recover soon,
good luck in Melbourne:)

Ballbuster
Sep 25th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Venus is Lazy, she don't want to do nothing but lay around in her bed. That's what she said. I'm aghast by that statement. That tells me she's a 23 year old woman whose tired already. If that's the case "so be it"

I'd rather have the Fiery venus at the open than the mousy one. If her heart is not into it then she should get the out the way and let Serena wear the crown. Quite frankly, I'm sick of Venus. (even though I love her)


I repudiate that statement. Come back soon Venus. On your own terms.

jbone_0307
Sep 25th, 2003, 02:47 AM
She is definately not coming back in 2003. She should just come on out and say it untill pulling out at the last minute at EVERY TOURNAMENT. I dont even think she would have played if her sister wouldn't have died

Paneru
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:34 AM
She is definately not coming back in 2003. She should just come on out and say it untill pulling out at the last minute at EVERY TOURNAMENT. I dont even think she would have played if her sister wouldn't have died

I didn't know you could see the future? ;)

jbone_0307
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:39 AM
yup im Thats So Raven!! lol

Paneru
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:45 AM
yup im Thats So Raven!! lol

It's a future "you" can see! :lol: