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tennnisfannn
Aug 17th, 2003, 05:30 AM
would it it as big a deal as beating both the williams back to back. I know Lina and justine will play later today and quite frankly I doubt that Justine will even break a sweat in this match. Indulge me if you will, If Lina k does the unthinkable and beats Justine, how huge a victory would this be.
Everyone remembers Hingis beating the sisters back to back AO2001, Kim's victory at the Championships over the sisters is what made the world stop and pay attention to her. Kim and justine are now very formidable opponents and considering how much lower ranked Lina is, this would be just incredible!
Has anyone done this in the last year?

sunnysideup
Aug 17th, 2003, 05:36 AM
this would surely be a huge victory for her considering that this would be her maiden title, a tier 1 event and disposing the current top two players. It would feel like bagging a GS title for her.;)

best of luck lina!!!!:angel:

katrientje
Aug 17th, 2003, 05:39 AM
That would be huge!
Good luck to both finalists!

CamilleVidann
Aug 17th, 2003, 06:49 AM
they are already not back-to-back wins as Lina won matches against other players after her win over Kim.
Davenport beat the Belgian duo back to back last year by the way.

vs1
Aug 17th, 2003, 06:53 AM
I think that beating Kim and Justine in a single tournament isn't exactly like beating Venus and Serena in a single tournament. However, it'll be a great feat for Lina if she can do it!! I hope that she can!!!

COME ON LINA!! You KNOW you can beat Justine!!! :bounce: :bounce:

seldom83
Aug 17th, 2003, 07:28 AM
i doubt that lina will win, but if she does, it would be nuts! after all she's gone through.... she would become a definite contender for the us open

per4ever
Aug 17th, 2003, 10:00 AM
she would be one of the underdogs for the us open... but I doubt she would be a real contender.

Bероника
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:24 PM
Best of luck Lina!!!!

Volcana
Aug 17th, 2003, 01:39 PM
would it it as big a deal as beating both the williams back to back. I know Lina and justine will play later today and quite frankly I doubt that Justine will even break a sweat in this match. Indulge me if you will, If Lina k does the unthinkable and beats Justine, how huge a victory would this be.
Everyone remembers Hingis beating the sisters back to back AO2001, Kim's victory at the Championships over the sisters is what made the world stop and pay attention to her. Kim and justine are now very formidable opponents and considering how much lower ranked Lina is, this would be just incredible!
Has anyone done this in the last year?

Well, it isn't back-to-back, but I know what you mean.

As for 'huge', well, in some ways, when you get into the details, this would bigger than either of those matches, and in at least one important way it isn't.

OZ 2001

1) In 2001, Venus showed up to OZ looking ill. If you dig back deep enough, you can find the thread I posted about it here. So her losing to Martina in that match wasn't a surprise. Well, to me it wasn't.

(NOTE: I can't recall any other Hingis victories of Venus where injury or illness were a factor. One has to concede that in 2001, Hingis was till capable of beating Venus straight up, even if by then, she was losing to Venus more than winning.)

2) Serena wasn't even one of the FOUR beat players in the world in 2001.

3) Hingis didn't win the tournament.

TC 2002

1) Venus showed up injured, and retired, down 0-5 in the first.

(NOTE: Clijsters beat a perfectly healthy Venus at Hamburg 2002. So you have to concede Clijsters was good enough by the Tour Championships that she might have beaten Venus anyway.)

All those things make Krasnourouskaya's accoplishment actually loom larger.

Contrarywise ....

Krasnouroutskaya would defeat opponents with one GS title between them.
Hingis defeated opponents with three GS titles between them at OZ 2001.
Clijsters defeated opponents with EIGHT GS titles between them at TC 2002.

Experimentee
Aug 17th, 2003, 01:43 PM
Its not that big a deal if players beat the two Belgians back to back as it is with the Williams sisters. Every time someone has beaten the Williams sisters back to back its al over the news, in every article about them, every time that player is mentioned it is followed by "...... who beat both Williams sisters back to back...".
They dont make that big a deal when its anyone else back to back. Not even when it was Hingis and Davenport, or the Belgians. I would love Lina to do it and i hope she does but they arent going to be still mentioning it a year from now, like they still do about Kim supposedly beating Venus and Serena back to back.

Dava
Aug 17th, 2003, 01:45 PM
Yes because they are great players! Its a very big deal especially with them being considered the two top hopes for the US Open title.

controlfreak
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:00 PM
Well if you enter a Tier I and win the title by beating the #1 and #2 seeds, then I think it is one hell of an achievement regardless of whether they are S&V, K&J, or Rubin & Myskina.

Curtis F
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:11 PM
I'd say that it would be just as big as beating the Williams sisters back-to-back because Kim and Justine are the most dominant players right now. I'm happy for Lina and wish her all the best but I don't see it happening especially with Justine's confidence at an all time high.

Vegetable
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:53 PM
It would be very impressive, but as someone pointed out, not back to back. Her win over Suarez was a great match though. I wanted both to win :hearts:

Hingiswinsthis
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:12 PM
it would be a great feat especially with the rise of Kim and Justine in 2003. BUT not as big as beating the Willies in the same tournament imo not yet, but its getting close.

"Topaz"
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:49 PM
If Lina K beats the Belgians back to back... would it be as big a deal as beating both Williamses back to back?

Emphatically not.

The Belgian duo is currently a force in process, certainly not as well established as the Williams duo. The Belgians are being heavily promoted to the public at large as a dynamic duo and even as the next ones to replace the Williamses. So far, they haven't delivered enough to support the campaign. Accordingly, beating them will not generate much of a roar.

Among the players, the fear factor with respect to the Belgians is weak. Justine's terrific backhand is not even avoided these days; lately, players have been going there constantly, with no fear. Clijsters plays at a high level in every part of the game, but has no feared weapon.

However, for Lina and the Russian horde, it's a big deal. It's a big reward for exhausting work done over the years. It brings confidence to the Russian group, their coaches and their support system.