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Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2003, 09:37 PM
My guess for the QF is:

(1)Clijsters
(7)Myskina

(6)Capriati
(3)Davenport


(4)V. Williams
(5)Mauresmo

(8)Rubin
(2)Henin


What do you think???

mboyle
Aug 16th, 2003, 09:43 PM
I am going to switch Cappy and Chanda. Wouldn't that be PERFECT?:hearts:

mboyle
Aug 16th, 2003, 09:43 PM
Oh and Sharapova would upset Myskina in the first round;) .

Mr. Man
Aug 16th, 2003, 09:52 PM
For some reason I don't see Myskina getting to the QF. But everything else seems perfect.

Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2003, 09:54 PM
For some reason I don't see Myskina getting to the QF. But everything else seems perfect.

This is only a projection of how I think the DRAW will fall, not who I think will make the QF.

faboozadoo15
Aug 16th, 2003, 10:16 PM
i like knizzle's and mboyle's... all good matchups in the middle...

Hurley
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:01 PM
Myskina will be 7th seed, Chanda will be 8th.

azza
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:04 PM
I Dout Myskina will there there

Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:09 PM
Myskina will be 7th seed, Chanda will be 8th.

thx :yeah:

martamagica
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:11 PM
Please put the 4th and 16th seeds together in the 4th round. :)

i heart backhand
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:15 PM
Since we all know there is a Capriati-consipiracy, I wouldn't be surprised if she was in Clijsters' quarter. I'd like to see Davenport draw the likes of Myskina or some other skinny-Russian girl she can pound.

Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:24 PM
Since we all know there is a Capriati-consipiracy, I wouldn't be surprised if she was in Clijsters' quarter. I'd like to see Davenport draw the likes of Myskina or some other skinny-Russian girl she can pound.

What do you mean "Capriati-conspiracy"??

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:37 PM
Since we all know there is a Capriati-consipiracy, I wouldn't be surprised if she was in Clijsters' quarter. I'd like to see Davenport draw the likes of Myskina or some other skinny-Russian girl she can pound.

Alyona would pound Lindsay for the umpteenth time :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

shap_half
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:43 PM
Kim
Capriati

Chanda
Venus

Lindsay
Anastasia

Amelie
Justine

disposablehero
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:46 PM
Clijsters
Rubin

Williams
Myskina

Davenport
Mauresmo

Capriati
Henin

Jericho
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:49 PM
As much as i would love to see a Venus/Capriati quarterfinal, i hope that doesnt happen because those matches are cursed! Clijsters will probably get myskina or rubin of course and davenport for a semifinal. I expect the hardest draw ever for venus.

disposablehero
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:51 PM
As much as i would love to see a Venus/Capriati quarterfinal, i hope that doesnt happen because those matches are cursed! Clijsters will probably get myskina or rubin of course and davenport for a semifinal. I expect the hardest draw ever for venus.

They'll groove Venus a soft draw. Trust me.

Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Alyona would pound Lindsay for the umpteenth time :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


I think Lindsay would win because she won't feel pressure playing Myskina at a GS.

Knizzle
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:55 PM
They'll groove Venus a soft draw. Trust me.

Like they did at Wimbledon?? I think Clijsters will continue her string of easy draws.

Nemesis
Aug 16th, 2003, 11:56 PM
I want:

Kim vs. Jennifer
Chanda vs. Venus

Lindsay vs. Amelie
Anastasia vs. Justine

But most likely it'll be (cakewalk for Kim):

Kim vs. Anastasia
Chanda vs. Lindsay

Venus vs. Jennifer
Amelie vs. Justine

Jericho
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:04 AM
They'll groove Venus a soft draw. Trust me.

i doubt it, unless she changes her name to clijsters :rolleyes:

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:05 AM
Kim'd draws only get soft when people like Venus decide to lose early.

tennnisfannn
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:06 AM
Kim
Capriati

Chanda
Venus

Lindsay
Anastasia

Amelie
Justine

You can bet your bottom dollar no way is Kim getting such a tough draw, Jen in the quaters and Venus in the semis!
Unless of course that draw was only ever intended for the no.2 seed.
i would love to see henin vs Jen and Venus vs Jen, those match ups have been too long coming.

great smash
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:08 AM
Kim'd draws only get soft when people like Venus decide to lose early.

Or when the fact that Kim these days more or less own Chanda and Lindsay, makes it nearly impossible not to give her a soft draw.

The problem is people accusing Kim of getting a soft draw seem hardly capable of suggesting what a hard draw for Kim should look like. I wonder what's causing this...

shap_half
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:09 AM
You can bet your bottom dollar no way is Kim getting such a tough draw, Jen in the quaters and Venus in the semis!
Unless of course that draw was only ever intended for the no.2 seed.
i would love to see henin vs Jen and Venus vs Jen, those match ups have been too long coming.

Let's be serious now, Kim has been getting such easy draws lately that getting Jenn and then Venus is well earned.

And if Justine will end up playing Amelie and then Lindsay on hard before she makes it to the final there is no such intention.

Knizzle
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:10 AM
Kim'd draws only get soft when people like Venus decide to lose early.

No, they have been soft from the get-go. If you want to compare stats we can do that, but you will be fighting a losing battle.

magassi
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:15 AM
I'd like to see...

Kim vs. Amelie
Lindsay vs. Venus

Chanda vs. Justine
Anastasia vs. Jennifer

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:16 AM
The famous soft draw is of course this years Roland Garros. Kim's half was guaranteed by the seeding rules not to have Serena in it. However, she still did end up with Venus Williams, Lindsay Davenport, Monica Seles, and Jennifer Capriati. Serena got Justine Henin-Hardenne, Amelie Mauresmo, and Chanda Rubin. Everyone was saying Serena had the tougher draw on day one. Are you suggesting that VLMJ all lost on orders from the tour?

I just won the losing battle.

Knizzle
Aug 17th, 2003, 12:27 AM
The famous soft draw is of course this years Roland Garros. Kim's half was guaranteed by the seeding rules not to have Serena in it. However, she still did end up with Venus Williams, Lindsay Davenport, Monica Seles, and Jennifer Capriati. Serena got Justine Henin-Hardenne, Amelie Mauresmo, and Chanda Rubin. Everyone was saying Serena had the tougher draw on day one. Are you suggesting that VLMJ all lost on orders from the tour?

I just won the losing battle.You didn't win anything buddy. When I say soft draw, mean the draw from the beginning of the tournament, not a draw that opens up for a player later. Also with the top four being as good as they are there are no weak draws past the QF. Kim seems to always get the easier quarter of the draw.

Ballbuster
Aug 17th, 2003, 02:34 AM
Kim seems to always get the easier quarter of the draw.


He Knows this. Instead he chooses to wear blinders. We'll see just how happy he won't be labor day weekend.

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 02:46 AM
More from the guy with blinders:

Wimbledon: Kim has to draw either Justine or Venus for the Semis. She draws Venus.

Australian Open: Kim has to draw either Venus or Serena for the Semis. She draws Serena.

Miami: Kim has to draw either Serena or Venus for the Semis. She draws Serena.

Or you are referring to Kim's draws in Tier II's?

~|Naomi|~
Aug 17th, 2003, 02:53 AM
More from the guy with blinders:

Wimbledon: Kim has to draw either Justine or Venus for the Semis. She draws Venus.

Australian Open: Kim has to draw either Venus or Serena for the Semis. She draws Serena.

Miami: Kim has to draw either Serena or Venus for the Semis. She draws Serena.

Or you are referring to Kim's draws in Tier II's?

Anotherthing you can add to that is Wimbledon when Kim drew Rubin in the QF and everyone was saying ooh Rubin will whip Kim, then Rubin lost so Kim got a cakewalk draw again :rolleyes:

Knizzle
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:00 AM
More from the guy with blinders:

Wimbledon: Kim has to draw either Justine or Venus for the Semis. She draws Venus.

Australian Open: Kim has to draw either Venus or Serena for the Semis. She draws Serena.

Miami: Kim has to draw either Serena or Venus for the Semis. She draws Serena.

Or you are referring to Kim's draws in Tier II's?

Now talk about her quarters of the draws?? At slams and big tier 1's of course she will be seeded to face a tough opponent in the semifinal because the top 4 is there, but she seems to always get a cakewalk to the semis, where she loses to a WS if they are in the semis.

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:04 AM
Anotherthing you can add to that is Wimbledon when Kim drew Rubin in the QF and everyone was saying ooh Rubin will whip Kim, then Rubin lost so Kim got a cakewalk draw again :rolleyes:

Oh right, I forgot about that. Chanda had just whipped Jen at Easbourne, but she was Kim's "soft" draw while the draw was rigged against Serena by putting Jen in her Quarter.

Knizzle
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:10 AM
Oh right, I forgot about that. Chanda had just whipped Jen at Easbourne, but she was Kim's "soft" draw while the draw was rigged against Serena by putting Jen in her Quarter.


What's Kim's record against Chanda??

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:17 AM
What's Kim's record against Chanda??

Good. And Kim no doubt should accept the blame for that.

Over the past 2 years, who has more wins over Serena? Jen or Chanda?

Knizzle
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:24 AM
Good. And Kim no doubt should accept the blame for that.

Over the past 2 years, who has more wins over Serena? Jen or Chanda?

Excuse my language, but what the phuck does this have to do with Clijsters receiving cakewalk after cakewalk to the semis of majors and big tier 1's and to the finals of smaller tier 1's and below?? Trying to change the subject eh?

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:30 AM
Trying to change the subject eh?

No, but it certainly would appear you are. When I point out factually who are actually the tougher opponents, you are left with only finger-pointing and weak attempts at obfustication. I don't blame you, though, as those are about the most effective tactics available for debating the weak position you have chosen.

Knizzle
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:45 AM
No, but it certainly would appear you are. When I point out factually who are actually the tougher opponents, you are left with only finger-pointing and weak attempts at obfustication. I don't blame you, though, as those are about the most effective tactics available for debating the weak position you have chosen.

Would you care to look at the draws to see how "weak" my position is?? That seems to be exactly what you are avoiding?? Isn't it???

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:43 AM
I thought I was discussing the draws? Have you made any references to SPECIFIC players in a SPECIFIC draw? I sure have made lots. Quite funny that you are trying to portray me as the one afraid to look at the draws.

tennnisfannn
Aug 17th, 2003, 05:17 AM
Of the players ranked 5-8 Venus, Amelie, Jennifer and Rubin, Venus would be the toughest quarter for any of the top four, followed by Amelie, Jen then Rubin. At the uso, without serena Myskina is the 8th seed making both her and Rubin the easier quarter. That does not mean they are both complete pushovers, but I am sure any of the top four would prefer them to either Jen or Amelie. All we are acknowledging here is that both Amelie and Jennifer are alot closer to the top girls than to the no.7&8.
Two of the top four seeds will defnitely have an easier quarter and since Kim seems to have had the luck of the draw in the recent past, chances are that she may draw Chanda or Myskina instead of Jen or Amelie. Whether these players live up to their seedings is a different story all together.
As A Venus fan I fancy venus chances over rubin and Myskina much better than if she were to play amelie or jen. If she had been fully fit, I wouldn't really care.

persond
Aug 17th, 2003, 05:37 AM
Draws are what they are...I really could care less where Venus is drawn since there's no Serena...!!!! Venus has dealt with the most difficult of draws and usually comes out all the better for the match play... Pilot Pen 2001??, she played three top ten players within a 24 hour period and hardly broke a sweat. Jenn and Davy I believe were 2 of the players she beat with barely any rest due to rain delays.

A healthy Venus will perform well no matter what section of the draw and no matter who her opponent...and you can take that to the bank...!!!

So let them all have their "cake walks"...!!!!

bandabou
Aug 17th, 2003, 10:35 AM
Draws are what they are...I really could care less where Venus is drawn since there's no Serena...!!!! Venus has dealt with the most difficult of draws and usually comes out all the better for the match play... Pilot Pen 2001??, she played three top ten players within a 24 hour period and hardly broke a sweat. Jenn and Davy I believe were 2 of the players she beat with barely any rest due to rain delays.

A healthy Venus will perform well no matter what section of the draw and no matter who her opponent...and you can take that to the bank...!!!

So let them all have their "cake walks"...!!!!

No kidding! Venus at full health= US open champion.

tfannis
Aug 17th, 2003, 10:48 AM
My dream draw :worship:

Kim - Chanda (it's been a while since Kim played Chanda...and good things happen every time they play :))
Lindsay - Anastasia

Venus - Amelie
Justine - Jennifer

:bounce:

bandabou
Aug 17th, 2003, 11:38 AM
My dream draw :worship:

Kim - Chanda (it's been a while since Kim played Chanda...and good things happen every time they play :))
Lindsay - Anastasia

Venus - Amelie
Justine - Jennifer

:bounce:

You´d like that, huh?! As Kim can only win a tournament by facing Rubin in earlier rounds....not even would help this time for her to win the Open.

disposablehero
Aug 17th, 2003, 03:52 PM
You´d like that, huh?! As Kim can only win a tournament by facing Rubin in earlier rounds....not even would help this time for her to win the Open.

You really are becoming a tremendous bore.

tfannis
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:13 PM
You´d like that, huh?! As Kim can only win a tournament by facing Rubin in earlier rounds....not even would help this time for her to win the Open.
lol....she faced Rubin about 5 times....she has more than 5 titles you know....
It's just a funny stat and it would be cool to keep it alive...but if she wins the Open without facing Chanda...still ok :wavey:

fnac
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:21 PM
You really are becoming a tremendous bore.

And that's an understatement. If Teerexx is the scavenger then bandabou is the ant eating the rotting flesh left in the sand by Teerexx.

bandabou
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:21 PM
lol....she faced Rubin about 5 times....she has more than 5 titles you know....
It's just a funny stat and it would be cool to keep it alive...but if she wins the Open without facing Chanda...still ok :wavey:

But it´s still a remarkable stat: Kim has 13 or 14 titles, 5 times she has faced Chanda in earlier and all the times she won, she went on to win the title. Chanda sure´s a sort of good voodoo for Kim.

Experimentee
Aug 17th, 2003, 04:57 PM
This is what i hope:

(1)Clijsters
(5)Mauresmo

(8)Rubin
(3)Davenport

(4)V. Williams
(7)Myskina

(6)Capriati
(2)Henin

tfannis
Aug 17th, 2003, 06:08 PM
But it´s still a remarkable stat: Kim has 13 or 14 titles, 5 times she has faced Chanda in earlier and all the times she won, she went on to win the title. Chanda sure´s a sort of good voodoo for Kim.

I know that...that's what my first post was refering to...but then you come up with "Kim can only win tournaments by facing Rubin..." which is crap since Kim has already 16 titles....meaning 11 titles without facing Rubin :rolleyes:

Peter M
Aug 17th, 2003, 06:42 PM
1- Kim
7- Chanda

6- Jenn
4- Venus

3- Lindsay
8- Nastya

5- Amelie
2- Henin

TeeRexx
Aug 17th, 2003, 07:39 PM
fnac - Are you obsessed with me? :eek: LOL

Anyway, all of this talk about Kim winning is a moot point because she will not get by a Juju or VENUS or she will definitely choke if it looks like she has a victory in hand. :)

fnac
Aug 17th, 2003, 08:52 PM
Teerexx...you're a pretty vicious character, and I'll be pointing that out, once in awhile. And nope, am not obsessed by you, just your morals p... me off sometimes, as do those of others of your ilk.

Serendy Willick
Aug 17th, 2003, 09:00 PM
No, but it certainly would appear you are. When I point out factually who are actually the tougher opponents, you are left with only finger-pointing and weak attempts at obfustication. I don't blame you, though, as those are about the most effective tactics available for debating the weak position you have chosen.


So Lindsay Davenport and Venus Williams are tougher opponents for Kim ON CLAY than Justine-Henin Hardenne an Amelie Mauresmo are for Serena at ROLAND GARROS?! :eek: Get real!

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 17th, 2003, 09:26 PM
They'll groove Venus a soft draw. Trust me.

you mean fix the draw? someone fix this broken record please.

~|Naomi|~
Aug 18th, 2003, 12:33 AM
I want to see semis as

Kim
Jen

Venus
Henin

Both matches I think would be great :) And you could swithc Venus and Jen to if you want cause Capriati-Henin match would be interesting to see

banana
Aug 18th, 2003, 02:34 AM
1 Kim
5 Amelie

6 Jen
3 Lindsay

4 Venus
8 Rubin

7 Myskina
2 henin

This draw is pretty top heavy with Jen Kim, Amelie and Lindsay but it provodes some good match ups in Q/F and prospective S/F like Davey vs kim and Caps vs Momo