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LindsayRulez
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:42 AM
Lindsay may not be at the top of her game at this moment, but hello, she is number FOUR in the WORLD! She is consistently in semis and finals of big tournaments and is a 3-time grand slam champion. I am tired of hearing, "oh, she should retire, she is so painful to watch when she is down on herself...I wonder if she'll make it through the second round...she doesn't stand a chance..." When I see you out there fighting to be one of the best in the world, then you can talk.

jenglisbe
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:55 AM
consistently in the semis and finals of big tournaments? which ones? I must have missed them. She hasn't been to the semis of a major since last year, and she hasn't been to the finals of a major since, what, 2000 or 2001??

Also, when was the last time Lindsay beat a top 4 player?

Sure Lindsay is still a quality player, and she is probably the 5th or 6th best player on tour...but she isn't a true threat to win a major anymore.

Mikey
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:05 AM
A) 2000 US Open
B) 2002 Zurich: def. Kim Clijsters and Justine Henin-Hardenne
C) Not true. She has a great shot at the US Open if she could only get over her current mental block against Kim Clijsters. Theoretically, she could make the final - she'll draw either Kim or Justine in the semis (and Venus will definitely be on the other half), which gives her a chance.

LindsayRulez
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:07 AM
As I said, consistently in the semis and finals of big tournaments: finals of Sydney, winner in Tokyo, finals of Indian Wells, semis of Family Circle Cup (clay!), finals of Amelia Island (clay!), semis of San Diego...wow, you sure did miss a lot.

This has definitely not been her best year, but she is still a threat to win any tournament.

Mikey
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:08 AM
Don't worry LR, the right people agree with you :)

:wavey:

LindsayRulez
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:08 AM
well said, Mikey, finally some common sense around here

Oasiatic
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:10 AM
Go Lindsay! :bounce:

jenglisbe
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:33 AM
LR - those are big events in a sense, but they aren't majors...and she didn't beat a Williams sister or a Belgian in those events.

Mikey
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:39 AM
And how many people can say that they have? I can think of one person that isn't Belgian or a Williams sister to have beaten a Belgian or a Williams sister en route to winning a tournament. But she's certainly not going to be winning a major anytime soon, not in singles anyway.

jenglisbe
Aug 8th, 2003, 04:07 AM
Mikey - I can name more than one; Ai beat Kim in a final, and Dementieva beat Henin in Amelia Island. Beyond that, Mauresmo has at least beaten Serena this year.

Again, my point is simply that Lindsay is behind the Williams sisters and the Belgians. She is 5th or 6th in the world in terms of quality of play (Amelie is ahead of her without the injuries).

Maajken
Aug 8th, 2003, 08:17 AM
too bad for you the ranking system doesnt work like that huh :p

even if she's behind those 4 players, she still deserves all the respect in the world and should be taken into account at ANY tournament!

Vincent
Aug 8th, 2003, 08:23 AM
I reckon that Lindsay is still the main force to win any tournament behind the Williams sister and the Belgians, or the biggest darkhorse to win a Grand Slam. Her potential is clearly shown by consistently storm intot he last four or eight. How can you say someone consistenly get into the quarterfinal or semifinal is not a true threat? When was the last time Lindsay lose to a no name or 3rd or 4 th round?:)

bello
Aug 8th, 2003, 08:28 AM
Yeah thats prob true ferrero, thats why she is no.5!

GO LINDS!!!!

bandabou
Aug 8th, 2003, 09:44 AM
Lindsay is still a top player, but right now she´s only a DARKHORSE for winning a GS. That´s not meant as a slight or anything, but if all top players are healthy, Lindsay is qrtr-finalist at best.

Jakeev
Aug 8th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Lindsay is my fave but you have to admit fellow fans that Linds has slipped a little since she returned last year.

I think she was actually playing better in 2002 compared to this year, but I also think she has lot more going on in her world with her marriage, family issues and a new injury to worry about.

Tennis was a top priority in her life just two years ago and now tennis is still important, but I don't think her main concern.

Frankly, I think Lindsay deserves respect anyway. She really does not have that much more to prove to anybody.

So I say God Bless her and if nobody wants to give her the deserved props then they are missing out and not us.......

RayRob
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:38 AM
:bounce: for Lindsay! She will is is the on player IMO, out side Venus, Serena, Kim and Justine to have a shot at the GS's. She could really thrive at the USO quite simply because it was the first GS she ever won and as she has hinted at retirement it would be a fitting end to a wonderful career if she could make it the last GS that she ever won......

........although I do want her playing next year :) I want to see her play at the olympics one last time....

-Rachel

doloresc
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:42 AM
davenport has had my respect for some time. what i really like about lindsay, her talent aside, is that she's an intelligent person with much more personality than she's given credit for. there's a personal reason as well on why i'm fond of her: she graduated from high school.

Andrew.
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:42 PM
Lindsay has always been the player I liked the most. I think if she stopped getting down on court she could actually do well against the Belgians. Actually, JHH has only won once against Lindsay - at the AO 2003 - at something like 10-8 in the third set.

bandabou
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:55 PM
Lindsay has always been the player I liked the most. I think if she stopped getting down on court she could actually do well against the Belgians. Actually, JHH has only won once against Lindsay - at the AO 2003 - at something like 10-8 in the third set.

That and it would help if she ever could learn to serve again.

RAA
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:14 PM
I give her a lot of respect, but I think her relative lack of mobility compared to the other players ranked near to her will be her downfall.

most of the other players know to get lindsday to move side to side is the way to beat her. and her opponents are happy running side to side to retrieve her groundies, which aren't as deep or as accurate as they once were.
that, and the fact her serve has become much more erratic than in the past..

I say she is a legitimate dark horse for the US Open. but she's gotta WANT it.