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ys
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:03 PM
As Russian Fed Cup captain Tarpishev said, the situation about determining the hosts of the finals is now about money. As he says , if any other factors would be equal, Russia would have gotten it for sure. But at this point Russia can not match the American offer of $2M. Russia can only offer $500K for that. :sad:

He also said that Marat Safin _is_ preparing to US Open.. :bounce:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:08 PM
mixed news :sad: :)

Marat...... :) lets hope things turn around soon, needs some good luck for once this yr.

Chance
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:09 PM
What about Belgium?
Good news about Marat.

fleemkeģ
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:11 PM
Well the governement would give the 500 000 euro that was asked :)

To badfor Russia but hey they had it a couple of years ago no? US had it also so let's bring it to Belgium :D

@Marat => hope he will be there!

ys
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:16 PM
The biggest piece of the pie, I guess, is US Tv rights. If it is noy in USA, it will not be really watched in US and that piece is basically void , and the price of TV rights in Belgium or Russia is really peanuts, especially taken into account that if it is played in Europe, American big players are unlikely to play.

I am OK with that being in US, as long as it is East Coast.

the cat
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:17 PM
That's sad about Russia not being able to host the Fed Cup Finals. :sad: But maybe some of their wealthy tennis players could chip in and help come up with the money. But it probabaly wouldn't matter because the ITF would rather have the Fed Cup Finals in America.

As for Safin. I hope he is finally healthy. But he's like the boy who cried Wolf when it comes to his comebacks and his once immense potential. :rolleyes:

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Well for all the bitching and moaning about the united states we at least get things done and can afford to get them done.

I can't believe a country with all those tennis players in the top one hundred cannot host a freaking fed cup semi!

Isn't tennis supposed to be one of the premier sports in europe? Shouldn't you all be falling over to host these events? Tennis is like a tier two sport here and we still get things done even if not a lot of people show up: bank of the west. :rolleyes:

fleemkeģ
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:32 PM
When the decision will be made?

Pureracket
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:47 PM
The biggest piece of the pie, I guess, is US Tv rights. If it is noy in USA, it will not be really watched in US and that piece is basically void , and the price of TV rights in Belgium or Russia is really peanuts, especially taken into account that if it is played in Europe, American big players are unlikely to play.

I am OK with that being in US, as long as it is East Coast.

This is interesting.

This is why I find it interesting that so many people hate the presence of Venus and Serena. They bring money to the sport and television revenue.

gentenaire
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:52 PM
Well for all the bitching and moaning about the united states we at least get things done and can afford to get them done.

I can't believe a country with all those tennis players in the top one hundred cannot host a freaking fed cup semi!

Isn't tennis supposed to be one of the premier sports in europe? Shouldn't you all be falling over to host these events? Tennis is like a tier two sport here and we still get things done even if not a lot of people show up: bank of the west. :rolleyes:

I'm convinced the Russians and Belgians would fill up the stands much more than the Americans. Like ys said, it's not about popularity or support, but about money!

You can't expect to get the same money from TV rights from a country with 10 million people as one of 280 million. And it's not the fault of the Russians or the Belgians that Americans are only interested in Americans.

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:56 PM
Well for all the bitching and moaning about the united states we at least get things done and can afford to get them done.

I can't believe a country with all those tennis players in the top one hundred cannot host a freaking fed cup semi!

Isn't tennis supposed to be one of the premier sports in europe? Shouldn't you all be falling over to host these events? Tennis is like a tier two sport here and we still get things done even if not a lot of people show up: bank of the west. :rolleyes:

doesnt matter how many players we got in top 100, our Federation is not wealthy.
and Tennis is just a real minority sport although picking up in last few years.

Cybelle Darkholme
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:58 PM
wait a second, I thought tennis was like the number two sport behind football for you europeans? all I ever hear on this board is how tennis is revered and the players are known and treated with respect and blah blah blah blah...now you tell me tennis is a european side show?

goldenlox
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Are we talking about $1.5 million?
Kournikova could write that check and not feel it.

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:01 PM
wait a second, I thought tennis was like the number two sport behind football for you europeans? all I ever hear on this board is how tennis is revered and the players are known and treated with respect and blah blah blah blah...now you tell me tennis is a european side show?

in some parts it is but not over here, its a pretty new sport, and only starting to get more players since tennis got back into Olympics
its still only played by under 2% of the population (about 30,000) from last figures

Spain, France and west Europe its popular (except GB)

ys
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:02 PM
This is interesting.

This is why I find it interesting that so many people hate the presence of Venus and Serena. They bring money to the sport and television revenue.

In the USA, that's true. But Russians do have some way to get money and interest and compensate for being not a wealthy nation. Tarpishev knows what he has to do - select Kournikova.

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:04 PM
perhaps someone can get Roman Abramovich to handover $2m, he seems to be throwing money left, right and center for football players

$60m he's spent in under 3 weeks
thats only small change of his $4 billion fortune

Infiniti2001
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:04 PM
Are we talking about $1.5 million?
Kournikova could write that check and not feel it.


:worship: Couldn't agree more :lol:

gentenaire
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:07 PM
Kournikova could, but do you think she would?

Infiniti2001
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:11 PM
I think she should... She claims she is a tennis player before anything else-well now is the time to put up or shut up..Oh well, this is just my not so humble opinion.

The Crow
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:13 PM
No matter how much money Kournikova earns, it is not a player's duty/place to come up with the money to host a FEDCUP final.

ys
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:18 PM
Kournikova could, but do you think she would?

I think at the moment she has too many problems of her own, to think about someone's else problems. But if she is selected into the team, to, at least, play doubles, she might like it, especially given that her sponsors would like it too.

The truth is, that a lot of recent sport's event venues were decided on money rather than on fair selection.

Atlanta Olympics - bribe.
SLC Olympics - bribe.
Bejing Olympics - money, political and eceonomical influence.
FIFA-2006 WC - scandal with New Zealand delegate, _strangely_ voting against the advice of his own national and regional federations for Germany instead of South Africa.

They say that sport is to unite people. In fact, it is just another business.

Infiniti2001
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:18 PM
No matter how much money Kournikova earns, it is not a player's duty/place to come up with the money to host a FEDCUP final.

So true, but if I were in her shoes I'd take the opportunity seeing that I will be remembered for what I did for tennis (in my country)rather than what tennis did for me.

gentenaire
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:22 PM
The truth is, that a lot of recent sport's event venues were decided on money rather than on fair selection.

This is true, unfortunately. The Olympic Games have gotten so back that very few countries can afford to host them.

Rollo
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:54 PM
Belgium would be best if Russia can't host. Belgium will have good crowds.

Considering past Fed Cup disasters here in the US we should not host it.
There is no guarentee top US stars can play. Even if the top US women DO play there may not be good crowds, depending on where they hold it.

The Fed Cup finals in Atlantic City and Las Vegas were embarassing, with less than 3,000 for both days.

ys
Aug 7th, 2003, 04:10 PM
Her is the exact, translated quote:

"If it was not for money, the Federation Cup finals would have certainly be hosted in Moscow"
Tarpishev said "Reality is, that Moscow can spend only $500K for the event, while our main competitor, United States, are ready to spend $2M"


I, however, would not take these words completely at face value. Tarpishev is known for making this kind of statements trying to get more money. Few times he would say this kind of stuff about Kremlin Cup ( going to being canceled in 1999 and 2000, or going to be sold to China in 2001 ), only to get more money from sponsors.

gentenaire
Aug 7th, 2003, 04:17 PM
I heard that in order to get it to Belgium, they needed to get €500K .

NaturalBlues
Aug 7th, 2003, 06:33 PM
@Marat => hope he will be there!

Oooh I *like* that idea! :hearts:
You can stay at my house Marat :angel: :devil:

Dava
Aug 7th, 2003, 06:40 PM
Happy about Marat but that sucks! I bet if America get it, it will be an overblown commercial affair.

E. Blackadder
Aug 7th, 2003, 06:50 PM
In Belgium a full pack of 12,000 people is already garantueed if we should host it, and that I'm sure of.

ToeTag
Aug 7th, 2003, 07:35 PM
Well for all the bitching and moaning about the united states we at least get things done and can afford to get them done.

I can't believe a country with all those tennis players in the top one hundred cannot host a freaking fed cup semi!

Isn't tennis supposed to be one of the premier sports in europe? Shouldn't you all be falling over to host these events? Tennis is like a tier two sport here and we still get things done even if not a lot of people show up: bank of the west. :rolleyes:
:tape: GEEZ...where is the Russian mafia when you need them! Cybelle,I thought the bank of the west was a very successful tournament? :confused:

Juju_fan
Aug 7th, 2003, 07:42 PM
I don't understand this thread :confused:

The condition is to have a budget of 500k$ to host the Fed Cup finals, so what's the point being worried with the 2 M$ the US are giving?

The ITF will give the host to the city with the best case, no matter how many $$$ they give, if it's equal or superior to 500k$...