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alfajeffster
Aug 6th, 2003, 05:40 PM
Are there any junior players who look like they may develop all-court games like Jana had?

Glenn
Aug 6th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Pfff, no! :sad:

DA FOREHAND
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:24 PM
Jana Novotna had an all court game? She was pretty weak from the baseline, especially on the forehand side.

There are plenty of all-courters out there now.

Venus,justine,Petrova,Lindsay

All have fine groundstrokes and Volleys.

alfajeffster
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:27 PM
Jana Novotna had an all court game? She was pretty weak from the baseline, especially on the forehand side.

There are plenty of all-courters out there now.

Venus,justine,Petrova,Lindsay

All have fine groundstrokes and Volleys.

Justine, maybe- but definitely not Venus, Petrova or Lindsay- all baseline bashers. Jana Novotna had a terrific ground game, and yes, the forehand did break down because of bad technique, just like her serve, but she used the whole court regularly in all her matches, regardless of surface. Should could stay back and win if she had to- something Navratilova was rarely capable of doing. In fact, in Novotna's matches with Graf, she usually did not serve and volley, but wait for a short ball to make an approach in any given point- mark of a good all court game.

Kart
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:30 PM
LOL @ all court game.

There aren't many around that could match her net game though.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:33 PM
justine doesn't approach the net as often as Venus. N.E. WAY.. All of the players I mentioned, add Chanda, are capable, and do employ an all court game. Too bad you didn't see Venus play Fed Cup this year, very impressive.

Novotna rarely ventured to the net against Steffi, because Steffi often times beat her to it. (93Wimby/98(?)Pilot Pen)

Kart
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:34 PM
In fact, in Novotna's matches with Graf, she usually did not serve and volley, but wait for a short ball to make an approach in any given point- mark of a good all court game.

And her head to head with Steffi was ? ;)

I'm not being nasty but she was at her best at the net. Her whole baseline game was built to get her there with the heavy forehand and slice backhand. She just didn't have the ability to stay in the long rallies.

Even at her best, which was probably 1997-1998, she won those big matches by going to the net.

irma
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:35 PM
in the time when there was the famous we get rid of steffi soon hype some commentators said novotna had a better forehand then steffi;)

Kart
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:36 PM
in the time when there was the famous we get rid of steffi soon hype some commentators said novotna had a better forehand then steffi;)

Did they also say ASV had a better forehand than Steffi :o

alfajeffster
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:40 PM
justine doesn't approach the net as often as Venus. N.E. WAY.. All of the players I mentioned, add Chanda, are capable, and do employ an all court game. Too bad you didn't see Venus play Fed Cup this year, very impressive.

Novotna rarely ventured to the net against Steffi, because Steffi often times beat her to it. (93Wimby/98(?)Pilot Pen)

I'd like to see the net-rushing stats comparison between Graf-Novotna...

Venus comes to the net the same way Steffi did- only during early round matches or matches that really don't count, or against far lesser opponents- never when it could make a tough big-time match an easier win.

irma
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:40 PM
no it was only about two players( not monica btw)

asv beat steffi at the french 6:0 6:2 but actually that match made those commentators realize that it was not the competition who suddenly got to a high but steffi herself so the hype stopped and then for good after wimbledon.

alfajeffster
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:41 PM
in the time when there was the famous we get rid of steffi soon hype some commentators said novotna had a better forehand then steffi;)

Do you remember Betty Stove?

irma
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:43 PM
not playing wise since I was 6 months old when she reached the wimbledon final;)

DA FOREHAND
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:47 PM
I'd like to see the net-rushing stats comparison between Graf-Novotna...

Venus comes to the net the same way Steffi did- only during early round matches or matches that really don't count, or against far lesser opponents- never when it could make a tough big-time match an easier win.


Steffi apporached in the finals of the Pilot Pen (98 -v-Novotna) 99 Wimby quarter -v- Venus

Venus used the net in ea of her winning slams except 01 US