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jenglisbe
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:37 PM
I think Kim has a great chance to win the U.S. Open - but she may wear herself out by playing 4 warmup events. What females have played4 warmup events and then won the Open (or even made the final)? Is that too much tennis, especially since Kim is likely to make the SF or final in all 4 events?

ZAK
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:51 PM
Lindsay Davenport '98 I believe

jenglisbe
Aug 6th, 2003, 07:16 PM
I guess what could help Kim is that she rarely has long matches until the finals of these events (and the SF of the majors). While it's a lot of tennis, most of it has not (and will not) be very physically taxing...hopefully, for her sake.

TennisHack
Aug 6th, 2003, 07:26 PM
Kim has the sort of game, like her significant other, that demands a lot of play to keep her at the top of it. I don't think her playing four tourneys will take too much out of her, especially considering she'll have a week off before the Open.

She's not playing doubles this week, which I think is a good thing. I'd be more worried if she was playing singles and doubles for four straight weeks.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 6th, 2003, 07:51 PM
Venus entered the Open on a 28/30 match win streak one year. She wasn't silly enough to try a Dockic

Mikey
Aug 6th, 2003, 08:12 PM
Lindsay Davenport '98 I believe
I think this is right also

Lindsay won Stanford, San Diego, and Los Angeles, and lost in the SF at New Haven.

Serena and Venus don't play enough to actually have that many warm up events before the tournament.

Hingis played 3 in 1997, Stanford, San Diego, and Los Angeles.

bandabou
Aug 6th, 2003, 08:12 PM
I too think it was Lindsay who last did it in ī98. But the difference between Lindsay and Kim is that Lindsayīs top game is less taxing than Kimīs. Even against lesser players Kim would still rather let them make the error than go for the winner herself. Whereas the ī98 Lindsay matches didnīt last long, īcause it was: serve and forehand, serve and backhand....bam, boodoom. That isnīt taxing at all.

jenglisbe
Aug 6th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Plus Lindsay's schedule was still better, in my opinion. She played 2 weeks, had a week off, then played a tournament and the Open.
Kim will play 4 weeks straight, have a week off, and then play the Open. I think 4 weeks straight is just a ton of tennis.

Mikey - who did Lindsay lose to in that SF?

bandabou - True, but Kim usually wins her early matches in 45 minutes or less. Even if Lindsay was going for more, Kim's matches aren't all that taxing anyway...until the later rounds. Plus, Kim is a lot more aggressive in early rounds than she is against the top players.

Infiniti2001
Aug 6th, 2003, 08:17 PM
I think this is right also

Lindsay won Stanford, San Diego, and Los Angeles, and lost in the SF at New Haven.

Serena and Venus don't play enough to actually have that many warm up events before the tournament.

Hingis played 3 in 1997, Stanford, San Diego, and Los Angeles.

I can't speak for Serena, but every year Venus plays 3 warmup tournaments before the US Open.

irma
Aug 6th, 2003, 08:22 PM
Plus Lindsay's schedule was still better, in my opinion. She played 2 weeks, had a week off, then played a tournament and the Open.
Kim will play 4 weeks straight, have a week off, and then play the Open. I think 4 weeks straight is just a ton of tennis.

Mikey - who did Lindsay lose to in that SF?

bandabou - True, but Kim usually wins her early matches in 45 minutes or less. Even if Lindsay was going for more, Kim's matches aren't all that taxing anyway...until the later rounds. Plus, Kim is a lot more aggressive in early rounds than she is against the top players.

steffi

alexusjonesfan
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:35 PM
:topic:
I'm not sure if this is right but didn't Justine and Serena play a whole bunch of clay warmups last year? Did either play 4 straight weeks? Serena took home the RG trophy and Justine seemed burned out.

Lady
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:47 PM
Plus Kim also plays doubles, and will be playing doubles at the USOpen

irma
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:49 PM
serena played 3

hilton head
berlin
rome

justine also played hamburg, not sure about amelia island

irma
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:50 PM
how dumb of course she did :rolleyes:

that tournament made her realize she had to do something about herself

jenglisbe
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:02 PM
Justine learned from her mistakes in more ways than one. Not only did she get mentally stronger after choking against Venus, she also realized how schedules can affect your game...notice this year she pulled out of the Rome event to save herself for the French. It worked.

Caz
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:17 PM
In 1994 Arantxa helped Spain to win the Fed Cup, (playing singles and doubles), which I believe was a week long tournament then, then went on to be finalist in singles and doubles in Stratton, finalist in singles and champion in doubles in San Diego, and champion in singles and doubles in Montreal, before taking both singles and doubles titles at the US Open.

Mikey
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:52 AM
I can't speak for Serena, but every year Venus plays 3 warmup tournaments before the US Open.
OK, Thank you for proving my point. Venus and Serena don't play enough to have 4 warm-up tournaments. I didn't say they didn't play enough to have 3.

Mikey
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:53 AM
Plus Lindsay's schedule was still better, in my opinion. She played 2 weeks, had a week off, then played a tournament and the Open.
Kim will play 4 weeks straight, have a week off, and then play the Open. I think 4 weeks straight is just a ton of tennis.

Mikey - who did Lindsay lose to in that SF?

bandabou - True, but Kim usually wins her early matches in 45 minutes or less. Even if Lindsay was going for more, Kim's matches aren't all that taxing anyway...until the later rounds. Plus, Kim is a lot more aggressive in early rounds than she is against the top players.
Graf beat Lindsay in the SF and then beat Novotna in the F. To this day, there have only been 2 champions of New Haven :p (and only 5 finalists for that matter ;) ).

I think Lindsay should stop playing it, it's cursed :p