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~SunFlower~
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:38 AM
Loit earns clash with Clijsters


Tuesday, 05 August , 2003, 11:29

California: France's Emilie Loit and Russian youngster Maria Sharapova were among unseeded players to advance early as the 635,000-dollar WTA Tour event got underway on Monday.
Loit defeated South Korea's Cho Yoon Jeong 6-3, 6-2 to earn a second-round clash with top-seeded Belgian Kim Clijsters, the world number two who like all the top 16 seeds has a first-round bye.

Sharapova, 16, defeated Slovenian Katarina Srebotnik in similarly short order 6-3, 6-1.

"It was a pretty good match, I felt pretty good," said Sharapova, who hadn't played on the WTA Tour since reaching the fourth round at Wimbledon.

"I hadn't really played a big match since Wimbledon. It was pretty exciting for me."

"My game was there. I could have played a little bit better, but it was solid."

The number of tournaments Sharapova can enter is limited by tour rules designed to prevent burnout and injury among young players, but the teenager is chafing to play more.

"I definitely think there could be some changes," Sharapova said.

"But a rule is a rule, and you've just got to go with the flow."

"I'd rather play tournaments in the US than going to, for example, Japan and playing some tournaments that I've played before."

She said her family has spoken with WTA Tour chief executive officer Larry Scott about perhaps bending the rule.

"So there have been some discussions," she said. "I hope it will be successful. It'll help my career, definitely."

Three unseeded French players fell at the first hurdle.

Thailand's Tamarine Tanasugarn survived two set points in the 12th game of the first set en route to a 7-6 (7/2), 6-3 victory over Mary Pierce.

After taking the tiebreaker, Tamarine won three straight games to open the second set before Pierce sought treatment for a sore muscle, which caused pain in her back and side.

Pierce then won the next two games to get the set back on serve.

"You know Mary's never going to give up," Tamarine said. "And she really tried after her medical time-out."

The two traded breaks in four of the last five games, Tamarine finally holding at love to take the match.

AjdeNate!
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Fight on Maria!!!! Great job - keep it up!!

~SunFlower~
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:42 AM
Go MARIA! :)

the cat
Aug 5th, 2003, 04:30 PM
As I've stated before, the new WTA CEO Larry Scott will make adjustments to the WTA Tour's well intended but misguided Age Eligibility Rules for next year. That's why Maria added Luxembourg to her schedule this year. She's knows the Are Rules will be modified for next year. And they should be.

Maria wouldn't be talking about this publicly if it wasn't going to happen.

whiteplains
Aug 5th, 2003, 05:18 PM
This is total bullshit...she has done absolutely nothing to warrant having the rules changed just because her media hungry promoters are trying to get to her money faster and propel the Anna factor....and yes she would love to have Anna's popularity

What I dont understand is why she is whining about the rule...she will be 17 in April and can play 17 tournaments...which is exactly the number of tournaments that are counted in your ranking.

Somebody needs to call her and her entourage and tell them that many players under the AER have done more than her and that the number 1 player in the world has 11 or 12 tournament on the books :rolleyes:

Vegetable
Aug 5th, 2003, 05:25 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing more of Maria :kiss: Make your voice heard, loudly!

Perhaps this stems from the unholy desire of wanting to see another Sharapova/Harkleroad matchup...

Pureracket
Aug 5th, 2003, 05:25 PM
Well, I think that the rules should be struck down altogether. Is the WTA the only professional organization with discriminating age limits?

These laws are Fascist.

Volcana
Aug 5th, 2003, 05:29 PM
It'll help my career, definitely."

It will help her career in the short run.

In the long run, playing too much too early leds to more injuries more quickly, and perhaps less of an overall career.

Volcana
Aug 5th, 2003, 05:55 PM
Here's Maria's career record (obvious short)


curr
TR mth tear tournament rank

T1 Mar 2002 Indian Wells 128 W [231] RIPPNER 5-7 6-1 6-2
T1 Mar 2002 Indian Wells 64 L [ 28] SELES 0-6 2-6*
T4 Sep 2002 Japan Open 32 L [ 60] GAGLIARDI 6-2 6-7 4-6

GS Jan 2003 Australian Open 128 L [ 63] KOUKALOVA 4-6 6-7
T1 Mar 2003 Indian Wells 128 L [ 81] REEVES 3-6 6-1 0-6
T1 Mar 2003 Miami 128 L [ 79] CALLENS 6-7 1-6
T1 Apr 2003 Charleston 64 L [ 42] MATEVZIC 4-6 7-5 2-6
GS May 2003 Roland Garros 128 L [ 31] SERNA 3-6 3-6

T3 Jun 2003 Birmingham 64 W [133] KOULIKOVSKAYA 6-1 6-1
T3 Jun 2003 Birmingham 32 W [ 24] DECHY 6-3 6-2
T3 Jun 2003 Birmingham 16 W [ 34] MIKAELIAN 6-0 7-5
T3 Jun 2003 Birmingham QF W [ 16] DEMENTIEVA 2-6 7-6 6-2
T3 Jun 2003 Birmingham SF L [ 55] ASAGOE 2-6 6-2 6-7

GS Jun 2003 Wimbledon 128 W [ 47] HARKLEROAD 6-2 6-1
GS Jun 2003 Wimbledon 64 W [ 21] BOVINA 6-3 6-1
GS Jun 2003 Wimbledon 32 W [ 15] DOKIC 6-4 6-4
Gs Jun 2003 Wimbledon 16 L [ 26] KUZNETSOVA 1-6 6-2 5-7

T2 Aug 2003 Los Angeles 64 W [ 36] SREBOTNIK

* Monica was a top ten player atthe time


I see some great grass court results, but nothing that makes me think the AER are holding her back. To honest, I think the AER should be MORE restrictive.

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 5th, 2003, 05:58 PM
it was easier to move up the ranks under the divisor ranks
Maria would be ranked about 25 if it was under the old divisor system.

this is where the AER and the new Best of 17 hurts the most
if the old system was still in place, it wouldnt affect the kids as much.

Also she would have been seeded in LA as well, and then at the US Open

Volcana
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:01 PM
Well, I think that the rules should be struck down altogether. Is the WTA the only professional organization with discriminating age limits?

No. American Football has age limits.

These laws are Fascist.

Technical point - These aren't laws but rules. That is, the organization enforces them, not the government.

There ARE child labor laws, at least in the USA, but no one I know of has applied them to professional sports.

Dictionary.com defines 'Fascist in a couple ways, the most applicable being. "A reactionary or dictatorial person."

How are the AER more dictatorial or reactionary than any other rule? For example, seeding the #1 ranked player first. That's completely arbitrary. (It makes total sense of course, but it IS arbitrary.)

Pureracket
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:02 PM
Whether she plays too much too early should be the decision of hers and her family's, shouldn't it?

whiteplains
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:05 PM
Either way her and her crew needs to shut the hell up and stop whining...because she is clearly not the poster girl for "how bad" the AER is...

She is very talented and she will probably end up being as great as they predict, but what is the hurry...someone needs to tell her that the number one player has about 11 or 12 tournaments on the books and give her Martina's H's number ;)

She will be able to play 17 tournaments as a 17 year old...whats wrong with that...how many more does she want to play

Infiniti2001
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:10 PM
This is total bullshit...she has done absolutely nothing to warrant having the rules changed just because her media hungry promoters are trying to get to her money faster and propel the Anna factor....and yes she would love to have Anna's popularity

What I dont understand is why she is whining about the rule...she will be 17 in April and can play 17 tournaments...which is exactly the number of tournaments that are counted in your ranking.

Somebody needs to call her and her entourage and tell them that many players under the AER have done more than her and that the number 1 player in the world has 11 or 12 tournament on the books :rolleyes:
Couldn't have said it any better... rules may be stupid but they are in place for a reason... Why didn't the WTA take a hard look at the rule when Kim was Maria's age??? Her results were far better, but alas it's all about marketing for TIIC (the idiots in charge) :eek: :tape: :rolleyes:

Pureracket
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:10 PM
I consider these rules or laws:) rather dictatorial because they deal with a player's life outside of the actual game of tennis.

Volcana
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:15 PM
Whether she plays too much too early should be the decision of hers and her family's, shouldn't it?

In some places.

In other places, they have laws governing how much a minor can work, and what defines that 'work'.

Still others, leave it up to individual organizations.

In the USA, if an 8 year old's family decided the child should work in a coal mine, no it's NOT 'the decision of hers and her family's'.

There ARE limits which are reasonable for age and type of work.

Now 8 isn't 16, and tennis isn't coal-mining. The law currently leaves it to the sports organizations, NOT the parents, to determine when and where children can play pro sports. Or almost any other job.

I can't speak for other countires, but in the USA, no, the decision is NOT 'hers and her family's' by any matter of means. Nor should it be.

Pureracket
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:32 PM
In some places.

In other places, they have laws governing how much a minor can work, and what defines that 'work'.

Still others, leave it up to individual organizations.

In the USA, if an 8 year old's family decided the child should work in a coal mine, no it's NOT 'the decision of hers and her family's'.

There ARE limits which are reasonable for age and type of work.

Now 8 isn't 16, and tennis isn't coal-mining. The law currently leaves it to the sports organizations, NOT the parents, to determine when and where children can play pro sports. Or almost any other job.

I can't speak for other countires, but in the USA, no, the decision is NOT 'hers and her family's' by any matter of means. Nor should it be.
Volcana,
You discussed exactly what we've been knowing, and I thank you for a bit of history when it comes to child labor laws; however, it still does not directly address what I've been saying. Your analogy to tennis playing and coal mine working, though eloquont, succeeds in diverting attention off of a point.

Why were the AER rules formed in the first place? Because little girls were made to stay up 18 hours a day working in coal mines? No. They were put in place so that the JenCaps of the tour would not turn to drugs in the offseason or that the Hingis' of the tour would not ruin their feet.

Well, what has happened? Kournikova's back has hindered her from being in the top 100. Venus is taking the second longest break of her career. (Too bad the AER didn't help her tendonitis back in 2000). Serena has had this kind of quadracep pain for almost six months, and who knows if Hantuchova even eats anymore?

The AER rules are not necessarily what has caused these women to get hurt or injured, but it certainly has not stopped them from the injuries. The rules are only a noble gesture for these little girls, but they will train, and they will train hard. Injuries and burnout are pretty much inevitable.
JenCaps

whiteplains
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:36 PM
Pure..you have a point...but since we know these kids are being overworked off the court...we might as well try to limit their work on court ;)

Pureracket
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:52 PM
Whiteplains,
It's not that simple, though. The little girls who are NOT playing a full schedule could very well be spending double time off of the court, further damaging their bodies.

croat123
Aug 5th, 2003, 10:55 PM
they won't bend it, they didn't do it for kournikova and lucic back in 1997

~|Naomi|~
Aug 6th, 2003, 03:20 AM
they won't bend it, they didn't do it for kournikova and lucic back in 1997

Exactly why should they bend it for one player, Kim, Jelena, Dani, Daj, and Anna And Lucic all had to play under the rule. Why does Sharapova think she is so good to warrant a rule change. Others lived with it, she should to.

Volcana
Aug 6th, 2003, 04:25 AM
The rule isn't about Kim, Jelena, Dani, Daja, Anna, Mirjana, Serena or Maria. For every one of those players there are a hundred girls who work themselves into Female Athlete Triad and spend the rest of their lives as cripples.

The rules are meant to apply to EVERY kid who wants to play pro tennis, not the 1% who are likeliest to make it.

decemberlove
Aug 6th, 2003, 05:29 AM
I consider these rules or laws:) rather dictatorial because they deal with a player's life outside of the actual game of tennis.

to answer your question, every major sports organization in the us has age limitations. even thou in most cases, these rules need only to apply to foreign players looking to enter the us cos most americans play their sport in high school. then move onto college or enter their sport professionally.

and ALL sports have rules that affect the players outside life. no drugs, some dont allow dangerous stunts, etc. when youre a professional, tennis is your job, not your recreation. so rules like these are expected.

the ONLY reason they will be changing the rules is cos they are desperate for a new money making machine. kourni is almost out... they need a new blonde to use and toss away.

Pureracket
Aug 6th, 2003, 05:41 AM
The rules against drugs in sports is not because they fear for the players' lives are well-being. The rules are there to head off any kind of performance enhancing drugs. The dangerous stunts rules are set up by individual teams, not the respective leagues. You could possibly be right about the reason for changing the AER being because they are in the need for a "money making machine."

I'm against it because I'm talking about the right for all of them to be able to make a decision to simply play tennis according to their ability. If there were indeed a 15 year old girl out there who could constantly whip the top ten (including Serena), don't you think she has the right to prove that without the intervention of the AER?

decemberlove
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:18 AM
no, it has to do with their overall health. if it was JUST to heed off performance-enhancing drugs, weed, shrooms, k, any dissociative or hallucinogenic, etc would be allowed. these rules apply to adults.

a 15 year old can wait, years fly. just like everyone else has to in other sports. they just dont have the maturity to be playing consistently. tennis players are already pushed enough as it is, its almost as bad as gymnastics. in my opinion, its sick.