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DA FOREHAND
Aug 4th, 2003, 03:55 PM
WTF

Fuel to the fire, or truth in them words?

Mattographer
Aug 4th, 2003, 03:56 PM
WOW!! She turns into bitch :rolleyes:

Pureracket
Aug 4th, 2003, 03:58 PM
Um. . .did she really say this?

If so, I hope Serena doesn't feel comfortable about anybody beating her. . . LOL.

selesfan
Aug 4th, 2003, 03:58 PM
Yes, Serena is so terrified that she faked her surgery so she wouldn't have to play Justine at the Open. ;)

QUEENLINDSAY
Aug 4th, 2003, 03:59 PM
Its too ambitious for Justine to say that. Another plan of cheating???

fleemke³
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:00 PM
Well let her say that! Does she really has to step on court saying: "well I'm gonna let my butt kicked but hey that's live?" Of course she has to believe in her chances otherwise she'd better stop playing tennis! :rolleyes:

Amanda
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:03 PM
Justine--I'll send you a tape of your Wimbledon 2003 defeat at the hands of Serena----just to keep you grounded. You need to take some of the pressure from your big head and lower it to your chest area. :lol:

:tape: @ Justine's arrogant trap!

gentenaire
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:03 PM
Fleem, Justine's not saying "I'm believing in my chances", she's saying "Serena can't handle it that I believe in my chances". This is not about her feeling comfortable, it's about attacking Serena.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:05 PM
Yeah and I suppose Serena told her that. Keep talking justine, as if there wasn't already a bounty on your head.

lizchris
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:06 PM
There is nothing wrong with having the confidence to believe you can win against players who are higher ranked than you or have winning records against you, but did she have to go as far as saying that Serena fears player her? Please, Serena has six Grand Slam titles, including from all four Grand Slam tournaments and 23 titles. Justine only has one Grand Slam title and 15 titles. She has a long way to go to even be in Serena's league. Or Venus' for that matter.

selesrules
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:07 PM
Yes, Serena is so terrified that she faked her surgery so she wouldn't have to play Justine at the Open. ;)

Finally, someone who has the guts to say what the whole world has been thinking.

Infiniti2001
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:07 PM
When this first came out "many" posters brushed it off-- Now that she has attacked Kim, "some" of the same posters want to muzzle her. :lol:

Seriously though, how does she know what the players are thinking?? UGH :tape:

greg²
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:08 PM
Hey, hey, the Williams-sisters always say such words.
And their look on the court: "You believe ya can beat me, a Williams :fiery:"

fleemke³
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:08 PM
Well if you hear the stories of Justine being belittled by Venus and Serena of court ... well than is it possible that they are embarrased of losing to her.

Well I think Serena had a very hard time after Roland Garros or doesn't everybody remeber the interview with Serena? Oh yes it was ONLY the public that made her cry :rolleyes:

DA FOREHAND
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:09 PM
Hey, hey, the Williams-sisters always say such words.
And their look on the court: "You believe ya can beat me, a Williams :fiery:"


Post the quotes greg, Post the quotes. I'd be really interested in any from Venus in particular.

gentenaire
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:11 PM
When this first came out "many" posters brushed it off-- Now that she has attacked Kim, "some" of the same posters want to muzzle her. :lol:


I suppose you're talking about me. Yes, I admit, I've had it with Justine. She and Kim used to be my favourites, it's just Kim from now on. At least you can't accuse me of double standards. I'm fed up with Justine's comments for the same reasons I didn't like the Williams sisters. I don't like arrogance.

Mrs. Peel
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:12 PM
Post the quotes greg, Post the quotes. I'd be really interested in any from Venus in particular.


Yeah!!!! Put up or shut up! :fiery:

lizchris
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Well if you hear the stories of Justine being belittled by Venus and Serena of court ... well than is it possible that they are embarrased of losing to her.

Well I think Serena had a very hard time after Roland Garros or doesn't everybody remeber the interview with Serena? Oh yes it was ONLY the public that made her cry :rolleyes:

As far as I know, Venus has never belittled Justine or her play.

Right, Serena had such a hard time after the FO, she crumbled and lost to Justine at Wimbeldon. Funny, from what I saw, Serena beat Justine en route to her sixth Grand Slam title.

spudrsca
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:14 PM
Well, she should have said that Serena doesn't like to play her but who cares :cool:

SJW
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:16 PM
girl has ambition

i just wonder how her ass kicking from Wimbledon affected her :confused: Serena wasnt even near her best

Lady
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:22 PM
I guess there is writtenn that Justine said "She doesn't feel comfortable!! Not fear or any other word you would like to describe it!!
It's all media who trying to get some drama and interest on court!!
Have you heard how Justine said this? Maybe you have...But until it's only taken from some article I would not be so sure that this is true!!

fleemke³
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:23 PM
As far as I know, Venus has never belittled Justine or her play.

Right, Serena had such a hard time after the FO, she crumbled and lost to Justine at Wimbeldon. Funny, from what I saw, Serena beat Justine en route to her sixth Grand Slam title.


I was refering to an interview with Justine's coach. He told how they act against Justine off court. Always making fun of her and her being smal, to ignore her and by accident bump into her with their bags, ... well it sounds idiot but it aren't my words and I don't think anybody would made something up like that.

And please don't act like Serena was really pissed off and "hurted" after the RG semi's :rolleyes:

Mase
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:26 PM
This is Justine's comment right from CNNSI..
"I think all these players don't like it [that] I'm not so strong and tall and am not the same looking players as them," she told Reuters after beating compatriot Kim Clijsters 3-6, 6-2, 6-3 in the final of the $1 million Acura Classic on Sunday.

Where's Serena's name?? Is it a different article that I missed and if so where can we see that one?????????

victory1
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:27 PM
And of course the coach would not lie trying to divert attention from his cheating Justine! :lol: He waited until the heat was on Justine for bad sportmanship and try to divert attention from her from something that he claims happened 2 years ago. Get a CLUE!! ;)

fleemke³
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:31 PM
And of course the coach would not lie trying to divert attention from his cheating Justine! :lol: He waited until the heat was on Justine for bad sportmanship and try to divert attention from her from something that he claims happened 2 years ago. Get a CLUE!! ;)


Ok that's your opinion ...
but I like an answer ... why was Serena crying after her match? Only for the reactions from the public? BULLSHIT The handthing BULLSHIT she said that the point didn't changed the match? So why was she in tears?

DA FOREHAND
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:36 PM
Maybe she realized that I.Wells wasn't going to be an isolated incident.

Maybe she had dreams of winning the Grand Slam this year.

I doubt it had anything to do w/losing to a smaller player. Hingis beat her, and she was smaller and weaker.

Maybe her feelings were hurt that a player would "lie and fabricate";use such unsportsmanlike actions.

Mad-About-Venus
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:37 PM
I think Justine needs to keep a low profile. It's great that she pulled up a win on HC, especilally against Kim who had a clear advantage on her. This will give her a great deal of confidence, but it doesn't make her an automatic hard court punisher.

I don't think she needs to go out there and bow to other players and expect to be beaten, but I don't think she should be bragging about it, because her downfall could be harsh and she could have to eat her words. She should keep going and bringing it to the court instead of saying things like this. What she said is not too bad, but I think she should just keep a low profile.

Volcana
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:49 PM
"Serena doesn't feel comfortable that I think I can beat her," Henin-Hardenne said. "

English is not Justine's 1st language, so I'd be careful about parsing her words in English too closely. That said, what on earth is wrong with her saying that?

"Serena doesn't feel comfortable that I think I can beat her."

Well, duh!

What,she's gonna say?

"Serena is totally comfy with the idea that I think I can beat her. She said before in the lockerroom that she was having trouble sleeping, and now that she knows I think I can beat her, she sleeps much more soundly."

Oh. Yeah. THAT makes a lot of sense.

Look at the head to head


2001 U.S. Open (O) Hard 16 S. WILLIAMS 5-7 0-6
2001 Tour Champs (O) Hard QF S. WILLIAMS 3-6 6-7
2002 Berlin (O) Clay FR HENIN-HARDENNE 6-2 1-6 7-6
2002 Rome (O) Clay FR S. WILLIAMS 6-7 4-6
2002 Leipzig (I) Carp SF S. WILLIAMS 4-6 2-6
2003 Charleston (O) Clay FR HENIN-HARDENNE 6-3 6-4
2003 Roland Garros (O) Clay SF HENIN-HARDENNE 6-2 4-6 7-5
2003 Wimbledon (O) Grass SF S. WILLIAMS 3-6 2-6


There's no way Serena walks on the court against Justine and assumes she can just phone it in.

They've played on clay four times and Serena has won once. Were i justine, I'd have figured Serena thought that I thought I could beat her LAST year, cause I did.

First off, I think Jusine's meaning got lost in the translation a bit, her's or an interpreter.

Second, so what? They've played 8 times, Serena leads 5-3, and neither of them has ever beat the other 3 times in row. Serena does all the winning on carpet, hard courts and grass (limited as all that is). Justine does most of the wining on clay.

Rather than deride Justine, let's hope she can perform as well in the US Open. I would hope that the tennis ALL the elite players produce at the US Open is AT LEAST as good as what Justine showed on Sunday.

Deimos
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:51 PM
This is Justine's comment right from CNNSI..
"I think all these players don't like it [that] I'm not so strong and tall and am not the same looking players as them," she told Reuters after beating compatriot Kim Clijsters 3-6, 6-2, 6-3 in the final of the $1 million Acura Classic on Sunday.

Where's Serena's name?? Is it a different article that I missed and if so where can we see that one?????????

Here's the article you missed.

http://onesport.nzoom.com/sport_detail/0,1278,209257-2-49,00.html

And *yes*, Henin specifically mentioned Serena's supposed discomfort at playing her. Who's complaining about her self-belief? It's her arrogance in speaking for Serena in order to build herself up which is galling. Jeez!

lizchris
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:52 PM
I was refering to an interview with Justine's coach. He told how they act against Justine off court. Always making fun of her and her being smal, to ignore her and by accident bump into her with their bags, ... well it sounds idiot but it aren't my words and I don't think anybody would made something up like that.

And please don't act like Serena was really pissed off and "hurted" after the RG semi's :rolleyes:

Believe me, they way the media in America likes to report negative stuff the Williams sisters do, the fact that this has never come up leads me to doubt the story is true (considering the source). But if this story is true, I'd like to hear the other side to see why they did what they allegedly did.

BTW, I was being sarcastic about Serena and the aftermath of the FO.

shap_half
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:52 PM
WTF

Fuel to the fire, or truth in them words?

very nice DF very very nice...speaking of adding fuel to the fire... this has been discussed...wtf do you think you're doing

Lady
Aug 4th, 2003, 04:53 PM
English is not Justine's 1st language, so I'd be careful about parsing her words in English too closely. That said, what on earth is wrong with her saying that?

"Serena doesn't feel comfortable that I think I can beat her."

Well, duh!

What,she's gonna say?

"Serena is totally comfy with the idea that I think I can beat her. She said before in the lockerroom that she was having trouble sleeping, and now that she knows I think I can beat her, she sleeps much more soundly."

Oh. Yeah. THAT makes a lot of sense.

Look at the head to head


2001 U.S. Open (O) Hard 16 S. WILLIAMS 5-7 0-6
2001 Tour Champs (O) Hard QF S. WILLIAMS 3-6 6-7
2002 Berlin (O) Clay FR HENIN-HARDENNE 6-2 1-6 7-6
2002 Rome (O) Clay FR S. WILLIAMS 6-7 4-6
2002 Leipzig (I) Carp SF S. WILLIAMS 4-6 2-6
2003 Charleston (O) Clay FR HENIN-HARDENNE 6-3 6-4
2003 Roland Garros (O) Clay SF HENIN-HARDENNE 6-2 4-6 7-5
2003 Wimbledon (O) Grass SF S. WILLIAMS 3-6 2-6


There's no way Serena walks on the court against Justine and assumes she can just phone it in.

They've played on clay four times and Serena has won once. Were i justine, I'd have figured Serena thought that I thought I could beat her LAST year, cause I did.

First off, I think Jusine's meaning got lost in the translation a bit, her's or an interpreter.

Second, so what? They've played 8 times, Serena leads 5-3, and neither of them has ever beat the other 3 times in row. Serena does all the winning on carpet, hard courts and grass (limited as all that is). Justine does most of the wining on clay.

Rather than deride Justine, let's hope she can perform as well in the US Open. I would hope that the tennis ALL the elite players produce at the US Open is AT LEAST as good as what Justine showed on Sunday.
:worship:
The part about Serena's sleep was just amazing!! :lol:

Mase
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:01 PM
Here's the article you missed.

http://onesport.nzoom.com/sport_detail/0,1278,209257-2-49,00.html

And *yes*, Henin specifically mentioned Serena's supposed discomfort at playing her. Who's complaining about her self-belief? It's her arrogance in speaking for Serena in order to build herself up which is galling. Jeez!

When is this article form? They reference the Acura at the end of it :confused:

hollywood7172
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:02 PM
ok, no offense juju fans, and i'm sorry bout her mother, but here's my take:

she is getting WAY too arrogant before she's even gotten to number one. true, she has beaten all those ranked above her this year (except venus), and she has played some amazing tennis, but WTF??

she has never been my favorite player or someone i liked. ok, so her ruining the chances of capriati getting that thrid consecutive GS in 2001 "might" have something to do with it...but have you all seen how she looks out of the corner of her eye during her matches? it gives me the creeps. i may be wrong but she just strikes me as a girl who will win at all costs, whether its injury time outs or not admitting her hand was up at what-ever. wanting to win i admire. doing it with bad sportsmanship i don't.

i just like a girl who wins with pure skill, like kim, than someone who does it employing all the possible ways one can, albeit within the boundaries of tennis rules, like juju. does she fake her inuries? we'll never know and i'm not one to judge. but she just DOES NOT strike me as the most straight-forward player on the tour, you know what i mean?

but, all in all, what a beautiful backhand! (try to ignore the irony in that sentence). like i always say, may the best player win.

shap_half
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:04 PM
ok, no offense juju fans, and i'm sorry bout her mother, but here's my take:

she is getting WAY too arrogant before she's even gotten to number one. true, she has beaten all those ranked above her this year (except venus), and she has played some amazing tennis, but WTF??

she has never been my favorite player or someone i liked. ok, so her ruining the chances of capriati getting that thrid consecutive GS in 2001 "might" have something to do with it...but have you all seen how she looks out of the corner of her eye during her matches? it gives me the creeps. i may be wrong but she just strikes me as a girl who will win at all costs, whether its injury time outs or not admitting her hand was up at what-ever. wanting to win i admire. doing it with bad sportsmanship i don't.

i just like a girl who wins with pure skill, like kim, than someone who does it employing all the possible ways one can, albeit within the boundaries of tennis rules, like juju. does she fake her inuries? we'll never know and i'm not one to judge. but she just DOES NOT strike me as the most straight-forward player on the tour, you know what i mean?

but, all in all, what a beautiful backhand! (try to ignore the irony in that sentence). like i always say, may the best player win.

obviously you don't really mean may the best player win because if justine wins you'll just think she cheated her way into it. and of course if she has a blister she shouldn't get it treated so that kim can happily win a title that stupid bitch

Dizzy Miss Lizzy
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:05 PM
Great post, Volcana. :yeah: I totaly agree. And some people should stop attaching so much importance to some quotes.

skanky~skanketta
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:08 PM
i just wonder how her ass kicking from Wimbledon affected her Serena wasnt even near her best

i wonder how her ass-kicking from charleston affected her.justine wasnt even near HER best. :rolleyes:

and justine was injured at wimbledon. :p

minboy
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:10 PM
This was posted a time ago.
Nobody cared at the time.
Now she's beat kim on hc.
EVerybody gets on her.


anyway, she does have the mentality to get to the number 1 ranking, what's wrong with that.

what do you expect her to stay? "serena really enjoyed it when i beat her 2 times this year"?

And again, it seems like you don't understand anything about press methods! they can make anyone saying anything.

Lady
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:19 PM
This was posted a time ago.
Nobody cared at the time.
Now she's beat kim on hc.
EVerybody gets on her.

You're right about that, it was posted some time ago and nobody took it seriously!!

what do you expect her to stay? "serena really enjoyed it when i beat her 2 times this year"? :lol:

And again, it seems like you don't understand anything about press methods! they can make anyone saying anything.

That's so true!! Just look what press is doing with pop stars, they'll write anything just to keep people interested!!
And now without Serena they gotta find new people to get the rivaly between!! Now it's Justine & Kim!!
It's so obvious!!

hollywood7172
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:25 PM
where the fuck in my post did i say justine cheated or did anyhting techincally wrong?? dont get all worked up over nothing.

jbone_0307
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:28 PM
OK Just for that comment Justine, Venus is gonna bitch slap you everywhere at the Open like she always does. Shes a bitch, by Missy Elliott

SJW
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:30 PM
i wonder how her ass-kicking from charleston affected her.justine wasnt even near HER best. :rolleyes:

and justine was injured at wimbledon. :p

clay isnt Serenas best surface

but apprarently,grass, along with clay, is Justines :confused:

Justine's hand was fine at wimbledon. i asked her this personally

DA FOREHAND
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:44 PM
"There's no way Serena walks on the court against Justine and assumes she can just phone it in."

Serena doesn't walk on any court and thinks she can phone it in.

I guess that's why I've always liked the players who let thier play speak for them. Nothing like a sound thumping to put a cork in that hole! :tape:

Becool
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:45 PM
I think Serena shouldn't care and even us fans.

Justine always talks too much, and when it's time she never does it. Serena will defeat her when they meet again, and again, and also too Justine might get a win, but 1 in a million, so, I still think Serena is the better player and this are only bulshits Justine has to do to feel confident against Serena

and we know it doesnt work

kiwifan
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:45 PM
Just for a slightly off topic comment, if you research my prior comments regarding "Dirty Justine", I have always stated that she "needs to win" and I admire that desire in her.

Just like I liked Chucky while obviously cheering her humiliation at the hands of Queen Venus and like J Cap while obviously cheering her defeats at the hands of Mama Smash; I would like to happily welcome Dirty Justine into the rarified air of women who I root for against everyone except the Williams Sisters.

I didn't mind her shady actions at the French Open and the only thing I don't like about her and her coaches comments toward the Sisters is that they don't stand by them when questioned.

When they start backing up their trash, I will officially shout, "Go get 'em Peanut!!!"

Well get 'em all except the Sisters.

Here's to Chucky, J Cap and maybe Dirty Justine...

...worthy rivals for the Sisters. :devil: :devil: :devil:

minboy
Aug 4th, 2003, 05:50 PM
Justine always talks too much, and when it's time she never does it. , I still think Serena is the better player


i guess we don't have the sam definition of "never".

and justine didn't state that she was better than serena.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 4th, 2003, 06:16 PM
Let's see Chucky is history, Jen Cap has never beaten Venus Willaims, and has lost 8/9 in a row to Serena, justine hasn't beaten Venus Williams in two years.

Just like I liked Chucky while obviously cheering her humiliation at the hands of Queen Venus and like J Cap while obviously cheering her defeats at the hands of Mama Smash; I would like to happily welcome Dirty Justine into the rarified air of women who I root for against everyone except the Williams Sisters."

justine has to play Venus and Serena at the same time?

kiwifan
Aug 4th, 2003, 07:21 PM
Da Forehand, if you're trying to diss me, please check out that "Reading Is Fundamental" van that goes through Landover and New Carrollton MD first. :p

I haven't given up on Chucky (note "liked" is past tense) and J Cap doesn't exactly get destroyed by Mama Smash they are usually good 3 setters.

As for playing the Williams Sisters at the same time...

..."you can't be serious" - Johnny "McNasty"

Serendy Willick
Aug 5th, 2003, 08:53 PM
I was refering to an interview with Justine's coach. He told how they act against Justine off court. Always making fun of her and her being smal, to ignore her and by accident bump into her with their bags, ... well it sounds idiot but it aren't my words and I don't think anybody would made something up like that.

And please don't act like Serena was really pissed off and "hurted" after the RG semi's :rolleyes:


Please :rolleyes: of course youre gonna believe that Carlos "Dumbass" fucking Rodrigueazz is gonna say. Someone who is Justines coach and is close to Justine can and will concoct some bullshyt like that. It would be like Richard Williams saying the Justine made fun of his daughters height and muscles. :rolleyes: would you believe that? :rolleyes:

As for Justine with this continued notion that Serena Williams somehow "fears" her :rolleyes: :lol:, Yea, Justine Serena was shaking absolutley in her boots en route to beating your azz pretty good at Wimebldon. :rolleyes:

BTW, Serena is only about four inches taller than Justine and they practically have the same body build, so can someone please tell this chick that she is not a so called "victim" :rolleyes:

fleemke³
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:11 PM
Please :rolleyes: of course youre gonna believe that Carlos "Dumbass" fucking Rodrigueazz is gonna say. Someone who is Justines coach and is close to Justine can and will concoct some bullshyt like that. It would be like Richard Williams saying the Justine made fun of his daughters height and muscles. :rolleyes: would you believe that? :rolleyes:

As for Justine with this continued notion that Serena Williams somehow "fears" her :rolleyes: :lol:, Yea, Justine Serena was shaking absolutley in her boots en route to beating your azz pretty good at Wimebldon. :rolleyes:

BTW, Serena is only about four inches taller than Justine and they practically have the same body build, so can someone please tell this chick that she is not a so called "victim" :rolleyes:


Well if it's true or not I leave in the middle but agains ... why was it such a drama for Serena to lose AGAIN from Justine? She was in tears but please don't tell me it was because of the hand (she denied) and only the hand-thing ...

and please don't act like the sisters are saints .. they aren't!

Vegetable
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:13 PM
So, what exactly? She's not allowed to give her opinion? :rolleyes:

Besides, everyone here already posts about her being a bitch all the time. It's not news to you is it?

Serendy Willick
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:17 PM
Well if it's true or not I leave in the middle but agains ... why was it such a drama for Serena to lose AGAIN from Justine? She was in tears but please don't tell me it was because of the hand (she denied) and only the hand-thing ...

and please don't act like the sisters are saints .. they aren't!

Maybe it was because of the disrespectful and rowdy crowd that even Justine acknowledged went too far in her interview? Did you think about that? or where you deaf that day? :rolleyes:

Vegetable
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:22 PM
That whole post-match interview veered a bit into the melodramatic side ("story of my life!") but definitely, the crowd went too far. They behaved badly :(

SJW
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:25 PM
have u ever thought that maybe it IS the story of her life??....

Vegetable
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:29 PM
:lol:

Well maybe it IS...

fleemke³
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:31 PM
Yes the crowd was wrong but did you see the final in Antwerp this year? That crowd was RUDE to Venus and did she cry? You can say what you like but I just won't believe that that was the only reason ... Serena had never let her go that way and she had the crowd against her before!

SJW
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:35 PM
Venus won and Serena didnt. get it?

and Venus is the more "icy" of the two. she rarely cracks a smile b4 the last ball has been struck. those winces in the semi at Wimby was more emotion than ive seen from the past two years combined from her.

(pro) Belgian crowds are just rude i guess....its amazing cos the belgian posters here seem so nice....

fleemke³
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:36 PM
If you're interested .. i was ashamed for that public :o and yes Venus get them back the right way ... just kicking Kim's but! Maybe Venus is harder than her sister ... she doesn't show much emotions on court that's true :)

SJW
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:42 PM
a whole lot of people were ashamed :o our commentators were saying how Antwerp better watch themselves as they dont want to be Indian Wells part II :o he said he hopes Venus just sees it as a rather over-excited crowd and not to take offence cos Antwerpen could lose a player who loves the tourney just as if she was Belgian herself :o

Belgium are obv here to stay as far as tennis is concerned in the next few years...i just hope they become more classy patriotic in the Henman-Wimbledon sense than anti-everyone-whos-not-belgian :o

fleemke³
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:44 PM
Well my opinion on that is .. there are more and more Kim-fans and Justine-fans in Belgium that aren't TENNISfans ;)

harloo
Aug 5th, 2003, 10:48 PM
Lets face it, Justine is basically Belgian trash. She has no class at all.

Noone cares if she is little but her and coach. And I bet Serena is not even thinking about her. Justine may be on a win streak now, but it will eventually come to an end.

GO KIM!
GO VENUS!

Jen'sFan
Aug 5th, 2003, 10:53 PM
We all know that the Williams sisters are better than Justine. So she beat Serena in the French Open(a game imo that had more 2 do with the crowd than anything). Its nothing if she does unless she does it again which didnt quite happen at Wimbeldon.

I hate these arrogant players.

Hulet
Aug 5th, 2003, 10:55 PM
Where is the link to the source of the quotes?

Vegetable
Aug 6th, 2003, 01:28 AM
Of course "it's nothing" that she beat Serena at the French... just a grand slam title of course...

Sometimes these posts are the literary version of hitting one's head against the wall :rolleyes:

Knizzle
Aug 6th, 2003, 01:30 AM
Of course "it's nothing" that she beat Serena at the French... just a grand slam title of course...

Sometimes these posts are the literary version of hitting one's head against the wall :rolleyes:

She didn't beat Serena in the title match. Beating Serena would have meant nothing if she didn't beat Clijsters.

Vegetable
Aug 6th, 2003, 03:25 AM
true... I figured that was a given? I was only responding to the poster who claimed Justine has to beat Serena again and that the defeat in question wasn't worth anything.

SerialKiller#69
Aug 6th, 2003, 07:20 AM
Well, good luck Justine. Against your next matches with Serena.

tennisjam
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:20 AM
nobody feels comfortable if knowing the other player has a chance of winning...

xin_hui
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:41 AM
justine :rolleyes:
what's her problem

Volcana
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:45 AM
nobody feels comfortable if knowing the other player has a chance of winning...

And of course, the other player usually has A chance, even if its a small one.

Sam L
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:48 AM
I didn't know there was a new game on this board called "Justine said ..."

Can I play? :confused:

surfinggirl
Aug 6th, 2003, 12:41 PM
Do Justine and Serena have the same build?? Wow I don't think so!

And what about Frenc Open? I think there was more to it than she lost the match from Serena! She just couldn't get it that Justine already beat her 2 times this year! And Serena said she can only beat herself? Give some credit will you? Serena is a good player, no doubt about it, but she must understand that a player can beat her because the other player is better at that time.

And about Serena and Venus laughing at Justine is true! i heard Justine saying it, Carlos saying, and Sabine Appelmans said it in an interview recently! How sounds that?

I'm not tall myself but I can understand that there are players who just don't get that a smaller player could beat them?? Just accept it and move on and take possitive revanche! Don't bash the players!

minboy
Aug 6th, 2003, 02:53 PM
We all know that the Williams sisters are better than Justine. So she beat Serena in the French Open(a game imo that had more 2 do with the crowd than anything). Its nothing if she does unless she does it again which didnt quite happen at Wimbeldon.

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so maybe you can tell me where and when justine said that she was better than serena. She never made such statements.
and i didn't know you had to beat a player more than once to make it count. ( btw, justine beat serena 3 times)

Serendy Willick
Aug 6th, 2003, 05:53 PM
And what about Frenc Open? I think there was more to it than she lost the match from Serena! She just couldn't get it that Justine already beat her 2 times this year! And Serena said she can only beat herself? Give some credit will you? Serena is a good player, no doubt about it, but she must understand that a player can beat her because the other player is better at that time.


1. About the French, what about it? in 2001 Martina Hingis beat Serena in the Austrailian tournements in a similar fashion that Justine did to Serena on clay, and while Serena certainly wasnt thrilled about it, you didnt see her crying. Jennifer Caps beat Serena 4 straight times (including at the french where she got no type of crowd support) before Serena got the upper hand, and while her attitude was less than stellar, she certainly didnt cry there either. Serenas response: she got off her ass and busted it to get back the upper hand, just as she will do against Justine :) so what makes you think Justine is sooooo special :rolleyes: that Serena is gonna cry over her? Justine is another challenge in which I think Serena(and I am more than confidendent) will find a way to tackle.

2.
And about Serena and Venus laughing at Justine is true! i heard Justine saying it, Carlos saying, and Sabine Appelmans said it in an interview recently! How sounds that?


Lets see once again we have one side of this so called story. See my post above about Carlos Rodriguez, do you wanna know why I dont believe a hogwash word that he says? See the New York Times article in which he encourgages his pupil to cheat and lie and he says that had it been any other opponent Justine would've given her two serves. This infact to me dissproves this bullshyt excuse that Justine came up with implying that she didnt "know" what was going on, bullshyt :rolleyes: and brings up the question about whether he has lied about other crap, same with Justine. Let me ask you this? Had Serena pulled this same crap on Justine and then Richard Williams runs his mouth to the New York Times bragging about the incident, would you be feeling this same way? :rolleyes: Sabine Appelemans? Are you kidding? :lol: :lol: this is the same woman who probably wouldnt give the Williams a complement if she was presented with a million bucks. Serena has never bashed Justine or her game, if you see a quote in which this is true, then bring it. As for the 9000 notches comment, the woman was assessing HER game, not Justines. I suggest that you go and read Serenas transcripts before shooting your mouth off.

DA FOREHAND
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:02 PM
Yes the crowd was wrong but did you see the final in Antwerp this year? That crowd was RUDE to Venus and did she cry? You can say what you like but I just won't believe that that was the only reason ... Serena had never let her go that way and she had the crowd against her before!

Venus......Serena.........Venus...........Serena

Not the same person/or personality. They are prone to reacting differently to similar situations...

Had Spirlea bumped Serena, Richard says Serena would have decked her, Venus shrugged it off, and in the post match interview didn't take the bait. Contrast that to Spirlea, who went on the "Fucking Venus Williams" tirade.

fleemke³
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:11 PM
Yes the crowd was wrong but did you see the final in Antwerp this year? That crowd was RUDE to Venus and did she cry? You can say what you like but I just won't believe that that was the only reason ... Serena had never let her go that way and she had the crowd against her before!

Venus......Serena.........Venus...........Serena

Not the same person/or personality. They are prone to reacting differently to similar situations...

Had Spirlea bumped Serena, Richard says Serena would have decked her, Venus shrugged it off, and in the post match interview didn't take the bait. Contrast that to Spirlea, who went on the "Fucking Venus Williams" tirade.

I know that Venus and Serena are differnt persons ... but I just wanted to point at the great way of reacting from Venus there. That's what I call being professional on court ;)

SJW
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:40 PM
yea Serena woulda decked her....and knocked her the F*CK out :cool:

surfinggirl. stop already.Justine isnt perfect none of the players are. you are trying to say "oh these big bad williamses, laughing at Justine and all"....when in fact they have often PRAISED Justine, including calling her a "tennis artiste" (Venus). she goes onto say Williams finals are boring and to give someone else a chance. that was really unprofessional and classless IMO. even with the supposed "arrogance" of the sisters et al, they wouldnt have lowered themselves to such standards. so stop the Justine is an angel bullshit ok, cos i dont think anyone is buying it

surfinggirl
Aug 7th, 2003, 09:14 AM
And so stop doing the same that Serena and Venus are angels. I like Venus a lot, I walways root for her, if she doens't play Justine. I never like serena, because she never credits a player, Venus does. I didn't say that all.
But I already heard many stories about Venus and Serena laughing at Justine and if there are so many, why shouldn't there be a little truth in it??

I live in Belgium, so I can't read the New York post or what is it!
And I never mentioned Justine is an angel. I never said that. You read something I didn't write. Maybe you think that I think Justine is an angel?? Well if I must say living in Belgium, Kim is being considered the angel of belgium and not Justine, but I think she deserves some credit too.

And if you say that I should stop than read all these threads about this fight and I'm not the only one. Maybe you may accuse other fans too!
Don't lay down on one person, take the others too!

DA FOREHAND
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:45 PM
Huh?

Daniel
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:48 PM
:bounce: :bounce:

The Crow
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:51 PM
This thread is getting hilarious :D

bandabou
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:53 PM
Justine sure talks much for a player who can only treaten Serena on clay. Wonder if she keeps talking this way when the losses start to pile up, like they did for Capriati!!! ;) Justine you´re good, but don´t push your luck!!

Serendy Willick
Aug 8th, 2003, 06:16 PM
And so stop doing the same that Serena and Venus are angels. I like Venus a lot, I walways root for her, if she doens't play Justine. I never like serena, because she never credits a player, Venus does. I didn't say that all.
But I already heard many stories about Venus and Serena laughing at Justine and if there are so many, why shouldn't there be a little truth in it??

I live in Belgium, so I can't read the New York post or what is it!
And I never mentioned Justine is an angel. I never said that. You read something I didn't write. Maybe you think that I think Justine is an angel?? Well if I must say living in Belgium, Kim is being considered the angel of belgium and not Justine, but I think she deserves some credit too.

And if you say that I should stop than read all these threads about this fight and I'm not the only one. Maybe you may accuse other fans too!
Don't lay down on one person, take the others too!

And once again, where in the hell have you heard these quotes? The news, newspaper magazines? AN UNBIASED SOURCE? if you are so man or woman enough to spout out bullshyt, then back it the fuck up!

Crazy Canuck
Aug 8th, 2003, 07:55 PM
Ah yes... yet another topic that can not be rehashed enough.

Lady
Aug 8th, 2003, 07:58 PM
Can't you just let this topic go away??????

Serendy Willick
Aug 8th, 2003, 08:00 PM
Can't you just let this topic go away??????

You have a devine right not to read it if you dont like it. It was rehashing down the list just fine until you bumped it back up.

Lady
Aug 8th, 2003, 08:07 PM
You have a devine right not to read it if you dont like it. It was rehashing down the list just fine until you bumped it back up.

It wasn't me!! Only when I saw it on the top again I did my post!!