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marcobarella
Jul 30th, 2003, 03:23 PM
Welcome to Pick-A-Winner (PAW), the Predictions game!

Playing is simple: over the course of the tournament choose any 13 matches in the Main Draw and post who you think will win them. Anyone can play, any time.

You can play the Los Angeles game or the Helsinki game, but not both.

Winner: speedster_
Silver Medal: marcobarella
Bronze Medal: Rtael, Nir

FINAL HELSINKI LEAGUE TABLE

1.speedster_.............. .13 .11 ..2 .118
2.marcobarella............ .13 ..9 ..4 .101
3.Rtael................... .12 ..8 ..4 .100
..Nir..................... .13 ..9 ..4 .100
5.Pintaled................ .13 ..9 ..4 ..98
6.oren987................. .13 ..9 ..4 ..97
..karolbarzo.............. .13 ..9 ..4 ..97
8.raquel.................. .13 .10 ..3 ..91
9.korben.................. .12 ..8 ..4 ..88
10.ULTIMA PALLINA.......... .13 ..8 ..5 ..85
...je_ne_sais_quoi......... .13 ..7 ..6 ..85
12.Catriel................. .13 ..7 ..6 ..73
13.Daja.................... .10 ..6 ..4 ..66
14.Fidel Castrato.......... .13 ..5 ..8 ..65
15.diekeldever............. ..9 ..6 ..3 ..63
16.nueva_armada............ ..9 ..5 ..4 ..50
17.bl@de................... ..6 ..4 ..2 ..44
18.paellapan............... .12 ..2 .10 ..19
19.!.Steven.!.............. ..3 ..0 ..3 ...0

Ranking Points for Helsinki

1st ---- 95 ...... 9th ---- 17 ...... 17th ---- 6 ...... 25th ---- 3
2nd ---- 67 ...... 10th --- 16 ...... 18th ---- 6 ...... 26th ---- 3
3rd ---- 50 ...... 11th --- 14 ...... 19th ---- 6 ...... 27th ---- 3
4th ---- 39 ...... 12th --- 13 ...... 20th ---- 5 ...... 28th ---- 2
5th ---- 32 ...... 13th --- 12 ...... 21st ---- 5 ...... 29th ---- 2
6th ---- 28 ...... 14th --- 10 ...... 22nd ---- 4 ...... 30th ---- 1
7th ---- 24 ...... 15th ---- 9 ...... 23rd ---- 4 ...... 31st ---- 1
8th ---- 20 ...... 16th ---- 7 ...... 24th ---- 4 ...... 32nd ---- 1

SpikeyAidanm
Jul 31st, 2003, 08:07 AM
Yes guys, we need at least 6 players, for this game to go ahead!!

korben
Jul 31st, 2003, 08:40 AM
I´m in :D

Pintaled
Jul 31st, 2003, 09:07 AM
Me Two :)

AleOrtu
Aug 1st, 2003, 06:45 AM
We are 3 now :)

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 1st, 2003, 07:32 AM
3 more needed!!!!!!

Fidel Castrato
Aug 1st, 2003, 10:38 AM
Me too ! :)

marcobarella
Aug 1st, 2003, 11:10 AM
Now Helsinki is confirmed with ULTIMA PALLINA (my sister) and me!!! :bounce: :kiss: ;)

korben
Aug 1st, 2003, 02:34 PM
Now Helsinki is confirmed with ULTIMA PALLINA (my sister) and me!!! :bounce: :kiss: ;)

Cool :D Btw. What does "Ultima Pallina" mean, if anything, in other languages ?

marcobarella
Aug 1st, 2003, 03:13 PM
Cool :D Btw. What does "Ultima Pallina" mean, if anything, in other languages ?

In English, it mean "last ball"

Nir
Aug 1st, 2003, 07:37 PM
I want to join

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 2nd, 2003, 01:44 AM
Yes you may, Nir :)

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 2nd, 2003, 06:18 PM
I would like to join too :)

It will be my first PAW event. I hope that I understand everything :)

KoOlMaNsEaN
Aug 2nd, 2003, 06:56 PM
im in

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 3rd, 2003, 02:39 AM
FULL First Round Scoring points!
or see PAW Webpage (http://spikeyaidan.tripod.com/pawpickawinnerhomepage/ )

First Round

P.Schynder (1) vs S.Talaja.................(6-17)
Z.Ondraskova vs E.Laine....................(2-150)
E.Koulikovskaya vs Qualifier................(TBA)
Qualifier vs F.Pennetta (5)..................(TBA)
D.Chladkova (3) vs G.Leon Garcia........(7-14)
V.Douchevina vs I.Benesova...............(14-7)
A.Medina-Garrigues vs P.Wartusch......(8-12)
M.Czink vs C.Fernandez (7)................(12-8)
K.Sprem (8) vs C.Torrens-Valero.........(8-12)
S.Arvidsson vs B.Rittner.....................(11-9)
Qualifier vs T.Perebiynis.....................(TBA)
An.Serra-Zanetti vs P.Mandula (4)......(14-7)
A.Barna (6) vs L.Cervanova................(10-10)
K.Koukalova vs H.Nagyova.................(7-15)
M.Casanova vs Qualifier....................(TBA)
Qualifier vs A.Pistolesi (2)..................(TBA)



:bounce:

Rtael
Aug 3rd, 2003, 06:16 AM
PAW1: Douchevina Def. Benesova
PAW2: Sprem Def. Torrens Valero
PAW3: Talaja Def. Schnyder

Sandstorm
Aug 3rd, 2003, 09:23 AM
PAW1: Benesova def. Douchevina
PAW2: Sprem Def. Torrens Valero
PAW3: Talaja Def. Schnyder

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Aug 3rd, 2003, 10:05 AM
Paw1: schnyder over talaja
Paw2: Laine over ondraskova
Paw3: leon garcia over chladkova
Paw4: douchevina over benesova
Paw5: medina garrigues over wartusch
Paw6: czink over fernandez
Paw7: sprem over torrens valero
Paw8: arvidsson over rittner
Paw9: qualifier over perebiynis
Paw10: mandula over serra zanetti
Paw11: cervanova over barna
Paw12: koukalova over nagyova

Nir
Aug 3rd, 2003, 10:30 AM
PAW1: Mandula over Serra Zanetti
PAW2: Fernandez over Czink
PAW3: Rittner over Arvidsson

oren987
Aug 3rd, 2003, 11:04 AM
Nir :wavey: welcome to the PAW game.

Go Israel :D

paw1: Douchevina d Benesova
paw2: Nagyova d Koukalova
paw3: Rittner d Arvidsson
paw4: Laine d Ondraskova

Nir
Aug 3rd, 2003, 11:06 AM
Thanks Oren! :D

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 3rd, 2003, 12:12 PM
#1 : Talaja over Schnyder
#2 : Laine over Ondraskova
#3 : Nagyova over Koukalova
#4 : Mandula over Serra Zanetti
#5 : Leon Garcia over Chladkova

Nir
Aug 3rd, 2003, 01:05 PM
PAW4: Laine over Ondraskova

speedster_
Aug 3rd, 2003, 06:20 PM
PAW01 : CERVANOVA over BARNA
PAW02 : DOUCHEVINA over BENESOVA

marcobarella
Aug 4th, 2003, 12:53 AM
PAW1: Barna over Cervanova

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW1: Cervanova over Barna

raquel
Aug 4th, 2003, 01:34 AM
PAW 1 : Rittner over Arvidsson
PAW 2 : Wartusch over Medina Garrigues
PAW 3 : Sprem over Torrens Valero

AleOrtu
Aug 4th, 2003, 06:15 AM
PAW 1-Douchevina def. Benesova
PAW 2-Wartusch def. Medina Garriguéz
PAW 3-Fernandez :hearts: def. Czink

korben
Aug 4th, 2003, 06:15 AM
PAW1 - Douchevina bt. Benesova
PAW2 - Barna bt. Cervanova

Rtael
Aug 4th, 2003, 06:32 AM
PAW4: Arvidsson Def. Rittner
PAW5: Czink Def. Fernandez

paellapan
Aug 4th, 2003, 07:50 AM
PAW1 : Leon Garcia over Chladkova
PAW2 : Cervanova over Barna

Pintaled
Aug 4th, 2003, 07:56 AM
Paw1: Rittner over Arvidsson
Paw2: Wartusch over Medina Garrigues
Paw3: Koukalova over Nagyova

Fidel Castrato
Aug 4th, 2003, 08:20 AM
:wavey:

paw1 - Douchevina ovar Benesova
paw2 - Torrens Valero over Sprem

:)

Dymension
Aug 4th, 2003, 08:30 AM
PAW1: Douchevina def Benesova
PAW2: Ceranova def Barna
PAW3: Leon Garcia def Chladkova
PAW4: Talaja def Schnyder

korben
Aug 4th, 2003, 06:58 PM
PAW3 - Talaja bt. Schnyder
PAW4 - Laine bt. Ondraskova
PAW5 - Marrero bt. Koulikovskaya
PAW6 - Medina Garrigues bt. Wartusch
PAW7 - Perebiynis bt. Kleinova

[S@nti]
Aug 4th, 2003, 08:20 PM
PAW 1: Marrero def. Koulikovskaya
PAW 2: Medina def. Wartusch
PAW 3: Perebiynis def. Kleinova
PAW 4: Mandula def. Zanetti
PAW 5: Czink def. Fernandez

speedster_
Aug 4th, 2003, 09:26 PM
PAW03 : RITTNER over ARVIDSSON
PAW04 : LAINE over ONDRASKOVA
PAW05 : CZINK over FERNANDEZ

Nir
Aug 4th, 2003, 10:36 PM
PAW5:Talaja over Schnyder

raquel
Aug 5th, 2003, 12:05 AM
PAW 4 : Nagyova over Koukalova

marcobarella
Aug 5th, 2003, 01:09 AM
PAW2: Talaja over Schnyder
PAW3: Nagyova over Koukalova
PAW4: Wartusch over Medina Garrigues
PAW5: Rittner over Arvidsson

ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW2: Talaja over Schnyder
PAW3: Fernandez over Czink
PAW4: Talaja over Schnyder
PAW5: Wartusch over Medina Garrigues

marcobarella
Aug 5th, 2003, 01:11 AM
FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
REP PAW4: Koulikovskaja over Marrero

Rtael
Aug 5th, 2003, 03:43 AM
PAW4: Koulikovskaja Def. Marrero
PAW5: Kostanic Def. Pennetta

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 5th, 2003, 07:33 AM
ADDED R1 pts (With qualies)

E.Koulikovskaya vs M.Marrero (LL)......(12-9)
F.Pennetta (5) vs J.Kostanic (Q).......(7-13)
S.Klienova (Q) vs T.Perebiynis..........(11-9)
R.Kuti-Kis (Q) vs M.Casanova...........(15-7)
A.Pistolesi (2) vs J.Hlavackova..........(4-24)

Fidel Castrato
Aug 5th, 2003, 08:13 AM
PAW3 - Laine over Ondraskova :eek:
PAW4 - Fernandez over Czink
PAW5 - Wartusch over Medina

Fidel Castrato
Aug 5th, 2003, 08:19 AM
PAW6 - Koukalova over Nagyova

paellapan
Aug 5th, 2003, 08:55 AM
PAW3 : Koukalova over Nagyova
PAW4 : Laine over Ondraskova
PAW5 : Fernandeze over Czink
PAW6 : Rittner over Arvidsson

Pintaled
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:51 AM
Paw2 REP: Fernandez over Czink
Paw4: Mandula over An Serra Zanetti
Paw5: Kuti Kis over Casanova
Paw6: Klienova over Perebiynis

marcobarella
Aug 5th, 2003, 10:18 AM
Patricia Wartusch withdrawn.
All Paw players that have the match Wartusch-Medina Garrigues
can replace the pick!!!

Rtael
Aug 5th, 2003, 06:28 PM
sorry....I numbered my last ones 4&5 should be 5&6

PAW7: Cervanova Def. Nagyova
PAW8: Sprem Def. Rittner
PAW9: Douchevina Def. Chladkova
PAW10: Talaja Def. Ondraskova

marcobarella
Aug 5th, 2003, 07:08 PM
sorry....I numbered my last ones 4&5 should be 5&6

PAW7: Cervanova Def. Nagyova
PAW8: Sprem Def. Rittner
PAW9: Douchevina Def. Chladkova
PAW10: Talaja Def. Ondraskova

that's all OK for your new posts
But the number correct is from paw8 to paw11 because you have already picked the firsts 5 matches that you can see in the league table and also you have:
paw6: Koulikovskaja over Marrero and
paw7: Kostanic over Pennetta
So, you are arrived at paw11, ok?

[S@nti]
Aug 5th, 2003, 08:23 PM
PAW 6: Penetta def. Koukalova
PAW 7: Hlavackova def. Pistolesi
PAW 8: Medina def. Czink
PAW 9: Mandula def. Perebynis

korben
Aug 5th, 2003, 08:27 PM
Replacement PAW6 - Perebiynis bt. Mandula :mad: :D

marcobarella
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:03 PM
PAW 6: Penetta def. Koukalova
PAW 7: Hlavackova def. Pistolesi
PAW 8: Medina def. Czink
PAW 9: Mandula def. Perebynis

PAW6 - INVALID - Koukalova eliminated. Pennetta will play against Kostanic.
Please replace your pick!

oren987
Aug 5th, 2003, 09:26 PM
paw5: Sprem d Rittner
paw6: Talaja d Ondraskova

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 5th, 2003, 10:49 PM
#6 : Nagyova over Cervanova
#7 : Talaja over Ondraskova

raquel
Aug 5th, 2003, 11:00 PM
Replacement PAW 3 : Marrero over Koulikovskaya
PAW 5 : Casanova over Kuti Kis
PAW 6 : Sprem over Rittner
PAW 7 : Cervanova over Nagyova

Nir
Aug 5th, 2003, 11:02 PM
PAW6: Nagyova over Cervanova
PAW7: Sprem over Rittner
PAW8: Talaja over Ondraskova

marcobarella
Aug 6th, 2003, 12:46 AM
PAW5: Talaja over Ondraskova
PAW6: Sprem over Rittner


FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW5: Talaja over Ondraskova
PAW6: Sprem over Rittner

AleOrtu
Aug 6th, 2003, 05:16 AM
Replace:
PAW 2: Kostanic def. Penetta

PAW 4: Sprem def. Rittner
PAW 5: Marrero def: Koulikovskaya

speedster_
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:29 AM
PAW06 : MARRERO over KOULIKOVSKAYA
PAW07 : KOSTANIC over PENNETTA

speedster_
Aug 6th, 2003, 06:56 AM
PAW08 : CASANOVA over KUTI-KIS

paellapan
Aug 6th, 2003, 08:41 AM
ooops, 14th :o ... maybe I shouldn't have partied that much after winning Sopot :lol:

anyway :

PAW7 - Rittner over Sprem
PAW8 - Kuti Kis over Casanova

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:00 AM
HELSINKI

Second Round

S.Talaja vs Z.Ondraskova.................(9-12)
??? vs ???.....................................(TBA)
D.Chladkova (3) vs V.Douchevina......{5-20)
A.Medina Garrigues vs M.Czink..........(10-10)
K.Sprem (8) vs B.Rittner..................(7-13)
T.Perebiynis vs P.Mandula (4)...........(12-8)
L.Cervanova vs H.Nagyova...............(9-12)
??? vs ???.....................................(TBA)

Fidel Castrato
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:07 AM
hi Spikey :wavey: , thx for the update :)

rep PAW5 : Marrero over Koulikovskaya
PAW 7 : Douchevina over Chladkova

Dymension
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:19 AM
PAW5: Kostanic def Pennetta
PAW6: Nagyova def Ceranova
PAW7: Ondraskova def Talaja
PAW8: Garrigues def Czink

Pintaled
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:27 AM
Paw7: Mandula over Perebiynis
Paw8: Talaja over Ondraskova
Paw9: Marrero over Koulikovskaya
Paw10: Cervanova over Nagyova
Paw11: Douchevina over Chladkova
Paw12: Czink over Medina garrigues

diekedelver
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:48 AM
PAW1 : Pennetta over Kostanic
PAW2 : Rittner over Sprem
PAW3 : Marrero over Koulikovskaya
PAW4 : Douchevina over Chladkova
PAW5 : Mandula over Perebiynis

speedster_
Aug 6th, 2003, 09:49 AM
PAW09 : MANDULA over PEREBIYNIS

oren987
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:45 AM
paw7: Mandula d Perebiynis

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Aug 6th, 2003, 11:35 AM
replacement paw5: douchevina over chladkova

Nir
Aug 6th, 2003, 01:31 PM
PAW9: Douchevina over Chladkova

marcobarella
Aug 6th, 2003, 02:15 PM
PAW7: Mandula over Perebyinis

Rtael
Aug 6th, 2003, 04:18 PM
you're right Marco....hopefully I win here, my first title....would be good after my disappointing French Open RU by two points!

PAW12: Sprem def. Mandula

speedster_
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:09 PM
PAW10 : KOSTANIC over MARRERO

raquel
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:29 PM
PAW 8 : Medina Garrigues over Czink
PAW 9 : Talaja over Ondraskova

Sandstorm
Aug 6th, 2003, 10:37 PM
PAW4 : KOSTANIC over MARRERO
PAW5 : Talaja over Ondraskova
PAW6 : Medina Garrigues over Czink

AleOrtu
Aug 6th, 2003, 11:06 PM
PAW 6: Anabel Medina def. Czink
PAW 7: Marrero def. Kostanik
PAW 8: Talaja def. Ondraskova
PAW 9: Sprem def. Mandula
PAW 10: Nagyova def. Cervanova

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:53 AM
FULL Second Round/QF Scoring points!
or see PAW Webpage (http://spikeyaidan.tripod.com/pawpickawinnerhomepage/ )

Quarter-Finals

??? vs. ???....................................(TBA)
V.Douchevina vs. ???......................(TBA)
K.Sprem(8) vs. P.Mandula(4)...........(12-8)
??? vs. ???...................................(TBA)

Second Round

S.Talaja vs Z.Ondraskova....................(9-12)
M.Marrero (LL) vs J.Kostanic (Q)...........(10-10)
D.Chladkova (3) vs V.Douchevina..........(5-20)
A.Medina Garrigues vs M.Czink.............(10-10)
K.Sprem (8) vs B.Rittner.....................(7-13)
T.Perebiynis vs P.Mandula (4)..............(12-8)
L.Cervanova vs H.Nagyova..................(9-12)
M.Casanova vs A.Pistolesi (2)..............(18-6)


:bounce:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Aug 7th, 2003, 03:45 AM
P1 Nagyova over Cervanova
P2 Ondraskova over Talaja
P3 Garrigues over Czink
P4 Marrero over Kostanic
P5 Sprem over Mandula

oren987
Aug 7th, 2003, 04:43 AM
paw8: Sprem d Mandula
paw9: Kostanic d Marrero
paw10: Casanova d Pistolesi

speedster_
Aug 7th, 2003, 07:11 AM
PAW11 : MEDINA-GARRIGUES over CZINK
PAW12 : CERVANOVA over NAGYOVA

paellapan
Aug 7th, 2003, 07:41 AM
PAW9 - Ondraskova over Talaja
PAW10 - Casanova over Pistolesi
PAW11 - Nagyova over Cervanova

korben
Aug 7th, 2003, 07:59 AM
PAW8 - Talaja bt. Ondraskova
PAW9 - Kostanic bt. Marrero
PAW10 - Pistolesi bt. Casanova

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Aug 7th, 2003, 08:05 AM
paw 13: douchevina over czink/medina garrigues

diekedelver
Aug 7th, 2003, 09:59 AM
PAW6 - Czink over Medina Garrigues
PAW7 - Ondraskova over Talaja
PAW8 - Kostanic over Marrero
PAW9 - Pistolesi over Casanova

diekedelver
Aug 7th, 2003, 10:16 AM
btw, my name is diekeDELver, not diekeLDever :lol:

Fidel Castrato
Aug 7th, 2003, 10:23 AM
PAW8 : Ondraskova over Talaja
PAW9 : Kostanic over Marrero

Nir
Aug 7th, 2003, 10:34 AM
Replacement PAW 6: Kostanic over Marrero

Fidel Castrato
Aug 7th, 2003, 10:46 AM
marco, something went wrong with my points I guess...

it says 34 pts. but it should be 43 :

PAW1 : douchevina over benesova = 14 pts
PAW5 : Marrero over Koulikovskaya (rep for wartusch match) = 9 pts
PAW7 : douchevina over chladkova = 20 pts

14 + 9 + 20 = 43 ;)

plz to check things out, thx :)

marcobarella
Aug 7th, 2003, 10:54 AM
PAW8: Kostanic over Marrero

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW7: Kostanic over Marrero

marcobarella
Aug 7th, 2003, 10:59 AM
Nagyova withdrawn:

all PAW player that had the match Cervanova-Nagyova could replace the pick!

Je_ne_sais_quoi
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:33 PM
replacement paw 13: casanova over pistolesi

marcobarella
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:36 PM
Replacement PAW 6: Kostanic over Marrero

you can obviously replace your pick but Kostanic-Marrero you have already pick as paw10.
So, replace your pick!

Nir
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:39 PM
Replacement PAW 6: Duchevina over Czink

marcobarella
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:39 PM
replacement paw 13: casanova over pistolesi

you have already pick a paw13. Replacement are allowed for withdrawn

paellapan
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:45 PM
rep PAW11 : Marrero over Kostanic

FLT
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:48 PM
#7 replaced : Kostanic over Marrero
#8 : Douchevina over Czink

marcobarella
Aug 7th, 2003, 12:56 PM
#7 replaced : Kostanic over Marrero
#8 : Douchevina over Czink

Who are you?
In league table I haven't your name.
Also, your picks number 1,2,3,4,5 and 6?

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 7th, 2003, 01:29 PM
OMG so sorry, I forgot to change my nick, this post written by "FLT" is mine... sorry... It's first and the last time

yucky
Aug 7th, 2003, 01:57 PM
PAW01 : Sprem def. Mandula
PAW02 : Taraja def. Ondraskova
PAW03 : Kostanic def. Marrero
PAW04 : Pistolesi def. Casanova

marcobarella
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:08 PM
PAW01 : Sprem def. Mandula
PAW02 : Taraja def. Ondraskova
PAW03 : Kostanic def. Marrero
PAW04 : Pistolesi def. Casanova

I explain you some rules:
you can't play Helsinki because you have already played Los Angeles.
You are limited to a specific number of picks that you can see at the top of the each tournament's thread, ok?
Good luck for Toronto!

speedster_
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:24 PM
Replacement (Nagyova withdrew)
PAW12 : DOUCHEVINA over CZINK

oren987
Aug 7th, 2003, 02:29 PM
paw11: Douchevina over Czink

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 7th, 2003, 07:48 PM
#9 : Kostanic over Talaja
#10 : Mandula over Sprem
#11 : Pistolesi over Cervanova

[S@nti]
Aug 7th, 2003, 08:00 PM
PAW 11 : Mandula def. Sprem
PAW 12: Talaja def. Kostanic
PAW 13 :Douchevina def. Czink

korben
Aug 7th, 2003, 08:15 PM
Three picks left

PAW11 - Mandula bt. Sprem :hearts:
PAW12 - Douchevina bt. Czink
PAW13 - Douchevina or Czink bt. Talaja or Kostanic

raquel
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:10 AM
Replacement PAW 7 : Sprem over Mandula
PAW 10 : Talaja over Kostanic
PAW 11 : Douchevina over Czink

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:56 AM
PAW9: Douchevina over Czink

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW8: Douchevina over Czink

speedster_
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:28 AM
PAW13 : KOSTANIC over TALAJA

AleOrtu
Aug 8th, 2003, 04:15 AM
replace PAW 10: Douchevina def. Czink

PAW 11 Talaja def. Kostanic

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 8th, 2003, 07:22 AM
FULL QF Scoring points!
or see PAW Webpage (http://spikeyaidan.tripod.com/pawpickawinnerhomepage/ )

Quarter-Finals

S.Talaja vs. J.Kostanic (Q).............(8-12)
V.Douchevina vs. M.Czink...............(14-7)
K.Sprem(8) vs. P.Mandula(4)...........(12-8)
L.Cervanova vs A.Pistolesi (2)..........(16-6)

:bounce:

Pintaled
Aug 8th, 2003, 07:54 AM
Paw10 REP: Douchevina over Czink
Paw13: Kostanic over Talaja

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 09:13 AM
I'd better move my ass to Toronto, but anyhow here are my last two efforts :o ;) :

PAW12 - Sprem over Mandula
PAW13 - Cervanova over Pistolesi

Nir
Aug 8th, 2003, 09:55 AM
PAW11: Sprem over Mandula

Fidel Castrato
Aug 8th, 2003, 09:58 AM
I can't play this weekend so I have to take the rest of my picks now :o :

PAW10 : Kostanic over Talaja
PAW11 : Czink over Douchevina
PAW12 : Sprem over Mandula
PAW13 : Cervanova over Pistolesi


see you all in Canada I guess :wavey:

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 10:50 AM
Mandula withdrawn:
all PAW players can replace your pick!

Nir
Aug 8th, 2003, 10:59 AM
Replacement PAW 11:Talaja def. Kostanic

oren987
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:06 AM
Replacement: Kostanic d Talaja

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:20 AM
PAW10: Kostanic over Talaja

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW9: Kostanic over Talaja
PAW10: Pistolesi over Cervanova

Dymension
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:31 AM
Replacement PAW6: Talaja def Kostanic
PAW9: Pistolesi def Ceranova

diekedelver
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:36 AM
sorry guys, I need to withdraw from this tournament due to an injury :sad: :awww:

really sad for my first appearing, I hope to be fit again for the US Open...

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:21 PM
what can I do when i want to replace Mandula - Sprem result and I have posted all quarterfinals results already?

Fidel Castrato
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:36 PM
what can I do when i want to replace Mandula - Sprem result and I have posted all quarterfinals results already?

euh... wait for the semis ;)

easy as that :)

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:36 PM
what can I do when i want to replace Mandula - Sprem result and I have posted all quarterfinals results already?

you can choose one match from semifinals! :D

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:50 PM
PAW10: Kostanic over Talaja

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW9: Kostanic over Talaja



sorry to bother you again :o

like stated last week : rules are rules

how about this rule and the "Simon-formula" ?

"The Closing Time for the first match in a session is the start time for that session. The Closing Times for subsequent matches are determined by a formula. The formula is based on the total number of games played in earlier matches in the same session. Basically, three minutes are allowed for each game plus 10 minutes for each break between matches."

so, applying this formula to determine the closing time for the Kostanic-Talaja match we come to the following result : 13h + 18 games x 3 + 10 min. = 14.04 h as closing time...

so I guess your PAW was late, also that of your sister, and also the one from Oren... so replace your picks !

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 8th, 2003, 12:57 PM
Uhm... I didn't know who will play in first semifinals when I was posting it... So #10 replaced : Douchevina over Kostanic

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:04 PM
rep PAW12 : Douchevina over Kostanic

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:16 PM
sorry to bother you again :o

like stated last week : rules are rules

how about this rule and the "Simon-formula" ?

"The Closing Time for the first match in a session is the start time for that session. The Closing Times for subsequent matches are determined by a formula. The formula is based on the total number of games played in earlier matches in the same session. Basically, three minutes are allowed for each game plus 10 minutes for each break between matches."

so, applying this formula to determine the closing time for the Kostanic-Talaja match we come to the following result : 13h + 18 games x 3 + 10 min. = 14.04 h as closing time...

so I guess your PAW was late, also that of your sister, and also the one from Oren... so replace your picks !


Listen Paellapan,
we aren't to be very strictly.
Simon has explained this rules to keep the game but we must see each match in different case.
I have followed the matches on Wta World by "Friday scores and results" and at 1.20 pm the situation was 7-5 4-0 for Douchevina, so the match was yet in progress.
We know the rules but we must to be flexible. If the dead-line is 1.04 pm by applying the rules but the before match it's not finished, the new post is regular for each player.
3 minutes for game it's the normally but you know that a game can during long time, also 7-8 minutes and 6-0 final can be longer than a 6-2, 6-3 and so on....
So, the points are valid: at 1.20 Douchevina-Cznik was still in progress!

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:19 PM
sorry to bother you again :o

like stated last week : rules are rules

how about this rule and the "Simon-formula" ?

"The Closing Time for the first match in a session is the start time for that session. The Closing Times for subsequent matches are determined by a formula. The formula is based on the total number of games played in earlier matches in the same session. Basically, three minutes are allowed for each game plus 10 minutes for each break between matches."

so, applying this formula to determine the closing time for the Kostanic-Talaja match we come to the following result : 13h + 18 games x 3 + 10 min. = 14.04 h as closing time...

so I guess your PAW was late, also that of your sister, and also the one from Oren... so replace your picks !

Oren and me must not to replace the picks, only for your decision.
Are you able to understand?

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:32 PM
Listen Paellapan,
we aren't to be very strictly.
Simon has explained this rules to keep the game but we must see each match in different case.
I have followed the matches on Wta World by "Friday scores and results" and at 1.20 pm the situation was 7-5 4-0 for Douchevina, so the match was yet in progress.
We know the rules but we must to be flexible. If the dead-line is 1.04 pm by applying the rules but the before match it's not finished, the new post is regular for each player.
3 minutes for game it's the normally but you know that a game can during long time, also 7-8 minutes and 6-0 final can be longer than a 6-2, 6-3 and so on....
So, the points are valid: at 1.20 Douchevina-Cznik was still in progress!


oh come on Marco, you are just using double standards

last week (Sopot) you applied this Simon-formula to tell me I posted a PAW too late (although the match hasn't started yet, I followed the previous match too on "scores and results"...), now you say "the match hasn't started yet" so this rule doesn't apply... :rolleyes:

this formula is the only way to determine the closing time of a match, the real starting time of a match doesn't matter ...

I hope you understand it's very dangerous not to use this rule "very strictly"...

I am only trying to help you here, if this endangers your position in the league table I'm sorry for that, but as a participating organizer you better apply the rules very strictly for yourself ;)

it's up to you : chose for a win, or chose for credibility :)

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:42 PM
oh come on Marco, you are just using double standards

last week (Sopot) you applied this Simon-formula to tell me I posted a PAW too late (although the match hasn't started yet, I followed the previous match too on "scores and results"...), now you say "the match hasn't started yet" so this rule doesn't apply... :rolleyes:

this formula is the only way to determine the closing time of a match, the real starting time of a match doesn't matter ...

I hope you understand it's very dangerous not to use this rule "very strictly"...

I am only trying to help you here, if this endangers your position in the league table I'm sorry for that, but as a participating organizer you better apply the rules very strictly for yourself ;)

it's up to you : chose for a win, or chose for credibility :)


come on you, not me.
At 1.20 Douchevina-Czink was yet in progress.
In Sopot, we hadn't a live scoreboard but in Helsinki we have it.
No, it's not dangerous not to use "very strictly".
For tournament with live scoreboard it's not possible to apply this rule because, I already told, the times of the matches is different.
Douchevina-Czink was finished about after one hour and half of play even if the games played was 18.
But, want you to understand that the post for Kostanic-Talaja was made during the first match. So, I didn't know the scores (obviously).
Now I finished. Points are valid
And it's not absolutely that this formula is the only way: it depend on during the match.
And I don't choose for a win, I only choose with flexible idea.
I don't add or less points after or during the match to nobody!

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 01:56 PM
well, there was a reason why Simon used this formula as a rule, and not the real starting time of a match... how are you gonna prove the exact start of the Kostanic-Talaja match afterwards ? that's the point, not the fact whether it had started or not...

if you as an organizer check the posted PAW's afterwards, you are not able to know if they were posted before or during the match, that's why Simon came up with this rule, which has the same importance whether there is a live-scoreboard or not.

clear ? :)

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:11 PM
well, there was a reason why Simon used this formula as a rule, and not the real starting time of a match... how are you gonna prove the exact start of the Kostanic-Talaja match afterwards ? that's the point, not the fact whether it had started or not...

if you as an organizer check the posted PAW's afterwards, you are not able to know if they were posted before or during the match, that's why Simon came up with this rule, which has the same importance whether there is a live-scoreboard or not.

clear ? :)

not clear!
you aren't able to understand.
Helsinki's scoreboard is live with update game by game.
At 1.24 pm Douchevina was leading 7-5 4-0.
If you aren't look to Helsinki's site, I can't do nothing.
For me live scoreboard is important because Helsinki's web-site it's very efficiently.
Now stop.
We think to Toronto

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:27 PM
not clear!
you aren't able to understand.
Helsinki's scoreboard is live with update game by game.
At 1.24 pm Douchevina was leading 7-5 4-0.
If you aren't look to Helsinki's site, I can't do nothing.
For me live scoreboard is important because Helsinki's web-site it's very efficiently.
Now stop.
We think to Toronto


well, I do think I am able to understand :)

of course I know the Helsinki-site, but where do you find on it that at 1.24pm Douchevina was leading 7-5 4-0 ??

afterwards you can't, and that's why the "Simon-formula" is so relevant.

just try to understand, marco :rolleyes:

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:30 PM
well, I do think I am able to understand :)

of course I know the Helsinki-site, but where do you find on it that at 1.24pm Douchevina was leading 7-5 4-0 ??

afterwards you can't, and that's why the "Simon-formula" is so relevant.

just try to understand, marco :rolleyes:

When the score was 7-5 4-0 my computer's clock was 1.24 pm.
Simply this.
Good luck for Toronto!!!

paellapan
Aug 8th, 2003, 02:38 PM
When the score was 7-5 4-0 my computer's clock was 1.24 pm.
Simply this.
Good luck for Toronto!!!


oh, I see, your clock is decisive :rolleyes:

maybe it was 0.56 pm on my clock and 1.13 pm on someone else's clock :p

this is getting ridiculous :)

indeed, good luck in Toronto !! :kiss:

AleOrtu
Aug 8th, 2003, 03:37 PM
replace:
PAW 9: Kostanic def. Douchevina

PAW 12: Sprem def. Smashnova

K&J fan
Aug 8th, 2003, 06:04 PM
sorry guys, I need to withdraw from this tournament due to an injury :sad: :awww:

really sad for my first appearing, I hope to be fit again for the US Open...


LMAO :lol: what is this ??...

nobody saw this or what ?

this must be the first injury in the PAW-history (I hope the insurance is well organized ;) )

get well soon, Diekeldever


ROTFL :lol: :haha: :lol: :haha:

Rtael
Aug 8th, 2003, 06:25 PM
REPLACEMENT PAW15: Sprem Def. Pistolesi
PAW16: Douchevina Def. Kostanic

oren987
Aug 8th, 2003, 09:40 PM
paw12: Douchevina d Kostanic
paw13: Sprem d Pistolesi

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 8th, 2003, 10:51 PM
#12 : Pistolesi over Sprem

Nir
Aug 8th, 2003, 10:58 PM
paw12: Douchevina over Kostanic
paw13: Pistolesi over Sprem

marcobarella
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:19 PM
PAW11: Douchevina over Kostanic
PAW12: Sprem over Pistolesi

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW11: Douchevina over Kostanic
PAW12: Sprem over Pistolesi

azza
Aug 8th, 2003, 11:26 PM
Ultima Palinna get another account

marcobarella
Aug 9th, 2003, 12:03 AM
Ultima Palinna get another account

Think to write correctly also in your language.
When you pick your matches there isn't a name correct.
And Ultima Pallina do not disturb nobody.

raquel
Aug 9th, 2003, 12:14 AM
PAW 11 : Pistolesi over Sprem
PAW 12 : Douchevina over Kostanic

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 9th, 2003, 06:32 AM
FULL SF Scoring points!
or see PAW Webpage (http://spikeyaidan.tripod.com/pawpickawinnerhomepage/ )

Semi-Finals

J.Kostanic (Q) vs V.Douchevina.......(7-15)
K.Sprem(8) vs A.Pistolesi (2)...............(14-7)

:bounce:

AleOrtu
Aug 9th, 2003, 04:00 PM
PAW 12 (fiinal!) Jelena Kostanic def. Anna Smashnova

raquel
Aug 9th, 2003, 04:22 PM
PAW 13 : Pistolesi over Kostanic

Myron.Bolitar
Aug 9th, 2003, 10:41 PM
#13 : Jelena Kostanic over Anna Pistolesi

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 10th, 2003, 02:35 AM
FINALScoring points!
or see PAW Webpage (http://spikeyaidan.tripod.com/pawpickawinnerhomepage/ )

Final

J.Kostanic (Q) vs A.Pistolesi (2)...............(17-6)

:bounce:

speedster_
Aug 10th, 2003, 05:00 AM
Actually I win this games for 1st time, only Kostanic bt Pistolesi and marco pick this, I would get joined winner. :D

Dymension
Aug 10th, 2003, 07:53 AM
PAW10: Pistolesi def Kostanic

Fidel Castrato
Aug 10th, 2003, 08:49 AM
PAW13 - Kostanic over Pistolesi

paellapan
Aug 10th, 2003, 08:55 AM
Actually I win this games for 1st time, only Kostanic bt Pistolesi and marco pick this, I would get joined winner. :D

you win anyway and as only winner, coz you have more wins (more picks chosen correctly)

congrats speedster :)

marcobarella
Aug 10th, 2003, 09:41 AM
PAW13: Kostanic over Pistolesi

FOR ULTIMA PALLINA:
PAW13: Pistolesi over Kostanic

Elisse
Aug 10th, 2003, 04:00 PM
Congratulations speedster!!!! :D :wavey:

marcobarella
Aug 10th, 2003, 04:05 PM
For me another second place (in a row). Good! :p

speedster_
Aug 11th, 2003, 01:26 AM
Thank's paellapan :wavey:
Thank's Elisse :wavey:
Thank's marco & Spikey :wavey:
Thank's All :wavey: :wavey:

SpikeyAidanm
Aug 11th, 2003, 07:13 AM
Tourney summary available in PAW forum.

paellapan
Aug 11th, 2003, 10:14 AM
For me another second place (in a row). Good! :p

collecting 2nd places Marco ? :p