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King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:08 PM
I'm sooooo fucking sick of hearing about 20 inch rims and i'm a thug and got shot 20 times!!!!!!! :fiery: :rolleyes:

there is some good stuff out there, but 80% of rap out there these days is nothing but bullshit.

King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:15 PM
I'm like "man!! i don't care if you have 20 inch rims and a fucking escalade!!". i wish these guys would make a song that means something!!

I'm about to kick my bro's ass if he doesn't turn this shit off!! :fiery:

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:15 PM
im tellin ya, underground hip hop is the way to go.

commercial shit sucks. they have really ruined rap with all this nelly, ja rule, bullshit. they may have hot beats but they have no meaning in their lyrics whatsoever.

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:17 PM
i totally agree, joe. what's with the platinum teeth and the over the top bling bing anyway? i mean everybody knows these guys don't make real money until perhaps the third album and it's all borrowed anyway. yuck! on another note, new money is always so entertaining to watch. :)

platinum teeth... aka fronts :)

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:17 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1470000/images/_1471097_david_baldwin150.jpg

King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:21 PM
im tellin ya, underground hip hop is the way to go.

commercial shit sucks. they have really ruined rap with all this nelly, ja rule, bullshit. they may have hot beats but they have no meaning in their lyrics whatsoever.
exactly!! hot beats, but nothing else. the only one's that i like rightnow, are eminem, and dmx, cos they make songs that are actually saying somethin, ya know?

and ewwww!!! @ the pic :s

Mase
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:22 PM
i totally agree, joe. what's with the platinum teeth and the over the top bling bing anyway? i mean everybody knows these guys don't make real money until perhaps the third album and it's all borrowed anyway. yuck! on another note, new money is always so entertaining to watch. :)

How true is that?? LOL!

Poe
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:24 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1470000/images/_1471097_david_baldwin150.jpg

that is just wrong in so many ways :eek:

Cariaoke
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:26 PM
and they'll be wearing dentures when they're 35. :tape:

commercial anything, sucks. if you just want fun lyrics, listen to what's on the radio. if you want something with meaning, search elsewhere or explore indie music.

kiwifan
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:35 PM
Sick of Rap?

It would be just as easy to say that rockers are just a bunch of skinny posers with piercings, tatoos and nothing interesting to say, wouldn't it?

Hmmm, rock hasn't really brought much to the table since Led Zeppelin broke up (I don't consider New Wave synth music as rock).

Most Hard Rock is monstrously derivative of Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Sabbath.

Even the great Nirvana had an awful lot of James Gang in their best work (check out Funk 49 and then throw on Nevermind - in fact even check out a video of the James Gang and you will see a scruffier version of Nirvana 15 years earlier)

Richie Blackmore's solo on Highway Star is pretty much the template for every alleged long haired guitar god that followed from Van Halen on.

I think in all music forms (even Bubble Gum) if you are looking for something to be sick of, its not hard to find.

If you're looking for something to like, you're actually doing yourself some good.

Howlin' Wolf-Snake take your butt to the VirginMega Store and get to "scanning and sampling" Hip Hop Artists and you will find something to love.

Unless of course you're just caught up in that whole, rockers whining about being replaced by rappers as "Music to piss off you parent with".

If that's the case, sorry but rock has run out of rebel meaning (Satan Worship is so "Stairway to Heaven" played backwards you know, we won't even mention Judas Priest today...)

Come on Mick Jagger just turned 60.

"Denim and Leather" - Saxon

controlfreak
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:37 PM
If you are sick of Anglophone rap you should try some foreign rap. French rap and Cuban rap is especially good.

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:38 PM
i just saw bruce [yknow, the boss] in concert on thursday. the man has amazing energy for his age. THREE HOURS non-stop playing. i mean, i dont even think i could pull that off at the age of 20, forget about 50.

kiwifan
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:44 PM
I saw Bruce last time he was in LA (twice in fact).

He's been doing it since he was 20; the rap on him back in the 70s was he was very insecure (not bright or articulate off stage, one on one) and would stay on stage until the point of exhaustion because it was the only place he had confidence and he could avoid eveyone after the show by claiming honestly to be to tired.

Sort of an ironic twist to spend more time with your fans (onstage) in order to avoid spending time with your fans (backstage).

Bacardi
Jul 29th, 2003, 06:45 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1470000/images/_1471097_david_baldwin150.jpg

Hey no fair, why you gotta post pictures of my lovely dental work december?
Doesn't everyone love teeth like that, it's such a hit on the dating scene. I'm thinking of having a few big diamond solitares added, maybe like Vampire teeth... What do y'all think? :lol:

Tennisfan-Mtl
Jul 29th, 2003, 07:58 PM
I HATE rap music with a passion...

Violence, sex and murders....is all that's talked about...

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:08 PM
I HATE rap music with a passion...

Violence, sex and murders....is all that's talked about...

talk about ignorance

King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:08 PM
talk about ignorance
lol exactly!

Astro Jetson
Jul 29th, 2003, 08:15 PM
The only rap I've liked so far are the old school ones like Grand Master Flash and Run DMC. The Roots are also good. I especially dislike gangsta rap.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:12 PM
Maybe you mean to say that you are sick of the rap played on the radio or gangster rap becasue there are tons of rappers out there with actully something to say besides all the shootings, bling bling, and hot mamas.

sartrista7
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:21 PM
im tellin ya, underground hip hop is the way to go.

commercial shit sucks. they have really ruined rap with all this nelly, ja rule, bullshit. they may have hot beats but they have no meaning in their lyrics whatsoever.

Both true and not true... yeah, rappers like Saul Williams, Anti Pop Consortium and Dalek have "more" to say than yer commercial types, and yeah there are some really fucking bad commercial rappers out there (Ja Rule, wtf?!), but a lot of commercial hip-hop is actually great fun, and sometimes you don't need anything more. I mean, I doubt Missy Elliott is out to change the world, but she's pretty much my favourite rapper (well, she has amazing flow, and Timba's beats - maaan, Timba's beats). It's funny, I can take her singing about bling-bling etc. because she does it with a lot of wit, whereas people like Jay-Z and Ja Rule really are just mindless braggadocio.

At the end of the day it's just like any other genre. Lots of hip-hop, especially lots of commercial hip-hop, sucks ass, but there's always good stuff out there.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:30 PM
Both true and not true... yeah, rappers like Saul Williams, Anti Pop Consortium and Dalek have "more" to say than yer commercial types, and yeah there are some really fucking bad commercial rappers out there (Ja Rule, wtf?!), but a lot of commercial hip-hop is actually great fun, and sometimes you don't need anything more. I mean, I doubt Missy Elliott is out to change the world, but she's pretty much my favourite rapper (well, she has amazing flow, and Timba's beats - maaan, Timba's beats). It's funny, I can take her singing about bling-bling etc. because she does it with a lot of wit, whereas people like Jay-Z and Ja Rule really are just mindless braggadocio.

At the end of the day it's just like any other genre. Lots of hip-hop, especially lots of commercial hip-hop, sucks ass, but there's always good stuff out there.

so true, but I for one would like to hear the good stuff on the radio. I don't want to listen to fifty cents ten times in one hour. That will rot your brain cells.

I want:

Mos Def
Blackstar
Talib kewli
The roots
nappy roots even ;)
common
a tribe called quest
q tip
michelle nedgeocello (she raps)
De la soul
blackalicious

oh well I guess we are meant to saturated with mtv hip hop until our ears bleed.

King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:33 PM
I heard The Roots on mtv the other day, and they really grabbed my attention. they have some really great music. and they actually play some instruments :cool: :)

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:33 PM
I heard The Roots on mtv the other day, and they really grabbed my attention. they have some really great music. and they actually play some instruments :cool: :)

you should go hear them live if you get the chance. they are fantastic!

sartrista7
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:43 PM
oh The Roots are great... I was watching the Glastonbury Festival on TV this year, and it was the first year in ages I didn't actually want to be there. Two exceptions: Moloko and The Roots.

If you haven't heard Cody Chesnutt, his album The Headphone Masterpiece is brilliant... he's worked with The Roots and he wrote 'The Seed'.

I've never heard Meshell Ndegéocello rap... though I only have one of her albums. Should investigate her more.

More Jurassic 5 would be nice, too :D

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:44 PM
I love MOLOKO!!!! She has a solo album doesnt she? Or is that the girl from Opus three?


Boomkat sounds something like moloko, the reckoning seems to be a blatant rip but i stil like it.

sartrista7
Jul 29th, 2003, 09:46 PM
It's the girl from Opus III, Kirsty Hawkshaw, who had a solo album... it completely flopped. I've only heard one song off it, though, and that was good, but I've never even seen a copy of the album.

Moloko rule :D The new album has the best disco strings in recent memory on it.

andylover_16
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:15 PM
omigod :tape: .........i hate rap with a passion.....it all sounds the same to me......its about dancing with girls that have their boobs and asses hanging out......its disgusting.....like they actually think those kind of teeth in that picture are attractive :eek: ....thats sad!!!....someone needs to introduce rap and packaged pop lovers....to quality music like coldplay, oasis, white stripes, radiohead, travis, badly drawn boy,etc. ......the only pop or rap ive ever liked in any songs is christina aguielara justin timberlake and eminem thats is if anything a couple songs of theirs...though i really do like eminems music sometimes!.....like it really pisses me off how 50 cents in the club is nominated on vmas for best video....coldplays scientist should definitaly win it.....all 50 cent does in his video is run on a treadmill hang from the ceiling and get dirty with some hoochie mamas :rolleyes: ....what can i say :o

DunkMachine
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:21 PM
im tellin ya, underground hip hop is the way to go.

commercial shit sucks. they have really ruined rap with all this nelly, ja rule, bullshit. they may have hot beats but they have no meaning in their lyrics whatsoever.

:worship: I bow to your wisdom once more :worship:

What you see on MTV is NOT hiphop. That is Hip Pop made for consuption by the mindless masses who are only interested in trends. Underground hiphop is the ONLY hiphop.

Goto http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/play.pls?stationid=113665 (http://www.thebassment.com) Underground hiphop internet radio.

EDIT: link updated

DunkMachine
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:23 PM
omigod :tape: .........i hate rap with a passion.....it all sounds the same to me......its about dancing with girls that have their boobs and asses hanging out......its disgusting.....like they actually think those kind of teeth in that picture are attractive :eek: ....thats sad!!!....someone needs to introduce rap and packaged pop lovers....to quality music like coldplay, oasis, white stripes, radiohead, travis, badly drawn boy,etc. ......the only pop or rap ive ever liked in any songs is christina aguielara justin timberlake and eminem thats is if anything a couple songs of theirs...though i really do like eminems music sometimes!.....like it really pisses me off how 50 cents in the club is nominated on vmas for best video....coldplays scientist should definitaly win it.....all 50 cent does in his video is run on a treadmill hang from the ceiling and get dirty with some hoochie mamas :rolleyes: ....what can i say :o

That is exactly what Miss Dynamite was talking about.

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:28 PM
the roots :worship:

i hate rap/hip hop vidoes more though..... some of the commercial rap has a nice beat to have at the dancefloor.

DunkMachine
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:33 PM
so true, but I for one would like to hear the good stuff on the radio. I don't want to listen to fifty cents ten times in one hour. That will rot your brain cells.

I want:

Mos Def
Blackstar
Talib kewli
The roots
nappy roots even ;)
common
a tribe called quest
q tip
michelle nedgeocello (she raps)
De la soul
blackalicious

oh well I guess we are meant to saturated with mtv hip hop until our ears bleed.

Talib Kweli is the man. Do you have his album "Quality".
De la soul. :worship:

Excellent!!!!!!!!

andylover_16
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:47 PM
why do you guys like the roots......the worst is bone crusher and ja rule expecially o and nelly.....agh he is awful!.........i guess its safe to say the only truly good quality music is british mabe with the exeception of a few bands.......!british music is just soothing and somewhat theraputic! :angel:

Rocketta
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:49 PM
i Love the I hate Rap oh but I kinda like Eminem. :retard:

What's that about? I might not want to know. :tape:

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:51 PM
coldplay=radiohead 2
oasis=beatles 2

yeah, real fucking original. you should open your mind more, theres so much out there.

you want REAL music listen to some blues, not lil pussy brit boys whining about how tough they are.

Big Fat Pink Elephant
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:53 PM
i like coldplay a lot more than radiohead. *sigh* @ coldplay live :hearts:

Mase
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:53 PM
why do you guys like the roots......the worst is bone crusher and ja rule expecially o and nelly.....agh he is awful!.........i guess its safe to say the only truly good quality music is british mabe with the exeception of a few bands.......!british music is just soothing and somewhat theraputic! :angel:


:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

decemberlove
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:53 PM
i Love the I hate Rap oh but I kinda like Eminem. :retard:

What's that about? I might not want to know. :tape:

its the same as the dallas mavericks bullshit. we dont like bball but if theres white boys doing good, then gooooo white boys!

Cybelle Darkholme
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:55 PM
coldplay=radiohead 2
oasis=beatles 2

yeah, real fucking original. you should open your mind more, theres so much out there.

you want REAL music listen to some blues, not lil pussy brit boys whining about how tough they are.
:bounce: :lol: :bounce: :worship:

Mase
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:55 PM
i Love the I hate Rap oh but I kinda like Eminem. :retard:

What's that about? I might not want to know. :tape:

:yeah: Right????? Hmmmmmmmmm......... :rolleyes:

Rocketta
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:56 PM
its the same as the dallas mavericks bullshit. we dont like bball but if theres white boys doing good, then gooooo white boys!


I knew I didn't want to know! ;)

sartrista7
Jul 29th, 2003, 10:58 PM
coldplay=radiohead 2
oasis=beatles 2

yeah, real fucking original. you should open your mind more, theres so much out there.

you want REAL music listen to some blues, not lil pussy brit boys whining about how tough they are.

Yeah, ditto (though Coldplay and Radiohead are both OK).

There is SO SO much great stuff out there. It's not even that hard to find it.

Miss Thang
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:29 PM
so true, but I for one would like to hear the good stuff on the radio. I don't want to listen to fifty cents ten times in one hour. That will rot your brain cells.

I want:

Mos Def
Blackstar
Talib kewli
The roots
nappy roots even ;)
common
a tribe called quest
q tip
michelle nedgeocello (she raps)
De la soul
blackalicious

oh well I guess we are meant to saturated with mtv hip hop until our ears bleed.

Girl u must be about my age or u gotta sista who schoolin on some good ish. ;) The hip hop that on the radio 24/7 is for da teens who don't all know any better. Some a them do but a whole bunch don't and that why Nellys sorry ass done blowed up. :rolleyes:

Rocketta
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:32 PM
I like Nelly! :o

Madhuri
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:35 PM
If you are looking for originality in rap, you will have to go back to the late 80s/early 90s:

Try: De la Soul' s "Three feet High and Rising"

or Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday" or "Temples of Boom"

Beastie Boys: "Paul's Boutique" or "Liscensed to Ill"

Miss Thang
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:38 PM
i Love the I hate Rap oh but I kinda like Eminem. :retard:

What's that about? I might not want to know. :tape:

Kee-kee. ;) Miss Rocketta what really make me LMAO is that the folk who say that are even "uncomfortable" sayin it cuz they know folk like us gonna have somethin to say about. :lol:

Miss Thang
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:39 PM
I like Nelly! :o

Miss Rocketta hush sho mouth and take off them Air Forces Ones! ;) Chile u a (St.) Lunatic. :angel:

King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:42 PM
coldplay=radiohead 2
oasis=beatles 2

yeah, real fucking original. you should open your mind more, theres so much out there.

you want REAL music listen to some blues, not lil pussy brit boys whining about how tough they are.
right on babe! :kiss:

you want some real shit, go and listen to some BB King, Buddy Guy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, John Lee Hooker. that's some real shit right there!

I've been a blues fan for a loooooong time! and it's the most real music i've ever heard.

Miss Thang
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:43 PM
If you are looking for originality in rap, you will have to go back to the late 80s/early 90s:

Try: De la Soul' s "Three feet High and Rising"

or Cypress Hill's "Black Sunday" or "Temples of Boom"

Beastie Boys: "Paul's Boutique" or "Liscensed to Ill"

Preach chile! I'm an 80's chile and I luv all that music and even jams from the early 90's. :cool:

sartrista7
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:43 PM
Nelly has a good song... one good song, singular. Oh, and that thing he did with Justin. Oh no, that's just me lusting after Justin :o

If you like the Beastie Boys, you'll love Northern State, who are the female Beastie Boys but funnier.

King Satan
Jul 29th, 2003, 11:47 PM
right on babe! :kiss:

you want some real shit, go and listen to some BB King, Buddy Guy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, John Lee Hooker. that's some real shit right there!

I've been a blues fan for a loooooong time! and it's the most real music i've ever heard.
and also, Muddy Waters, Howlin' Wolf, Robert Johnson, ALbert King......

Rocketta
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:02 AM
Ok, I have to say the Beastie Boys make me :fiery:.

I'm sorry it really has nothing to do with them personally but that whole "Eminem" factor.

I will never get over the fact that the first time the Grammies invited a rapper to present they chose the Beastie Boys. :fiery: Over Curtis Blow, Sugar Hill Gang, Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five et all... On top of that they had the audacity to show up on stage wearing "nothing" grabbing their crouch and acting a fool. I don't care if they are talented or not, I hate their guts. :mad:

"nothing" = not in evening wear attire but street clothes. That is definitely not befitting for the first rap group ever awarded the priviledge of presenting at the Grammies.

Rocketta
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:04 AM
Nelly has a good song... one good song, singular. Oh, and that thing he did with Justin. Oh no, that's just me lusting after Justin :o

If you like the Beastie Boys, you'll love Northern State, who are the female Beastie Boys but funnier.

I don't know its something about his style that I like plus he's not as ignorant as some just ghetto. :o

Miss Thang
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:23 AM
I don't know its something about his style that I like plus he's not as ignorant as some just ghetto. :o

Chile dont blush cuz the brotha ghetto cuz at elast he aint in jail and Nelly is handlin his and laughin his country grammer ass all da way to da bank. Fo shizzle. :cool:

Rocketta
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:25 AM
Chile dont blush cuz the brotha ghetto cuz at elast he aint in jail and Nelly is handlin his and laughin his country grammer ass all da way to da bank. Fo shizzle. :cool:

Ohh how could I forget, its his Country Ghetto behind that I love! :hearts:

Thanks for reminding me Miss Thang. :wavey:

kiwifan
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:50 AM
Well you obviously caught me on a day when I don't feel like working much.

Here is a small sample of Hip Hop variety restricted to stuff that I actually own (some old, some "no longer cool", some "never was all that cool", some gangsta, some funny, some uplifting, some straight up ignorant but I like it anyway)...

Positive K, Queen Latifah, Rob Base and DJ EZ, Rock Run-D.M.C., Salt 'n' Pepa, Sir Mix-a-Lot, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Sporty Thievz, Tim Dog, Tone Loc, Too $hort, A Tribe Called Quest, UTFO (way under-rated), Whodini, X-Clan, Lauryn Hill, House of Pain, Ice Cube, Ice-T, Jungle Brothers, Kid 'n Play, Kool G Rap and DJ Polo, Kool Moe Dee, Kris Kross, KRS-One, Kurtis Blow, MC Lyte, Naughty By Nature, Nelly, N.W.A., OutKast, 3rd Bass, 50 Cent, Arrested Development, Audio Two (under-rated), Big Daddy Kane (the best IMO), BizMarkie, Boogie Down Productions, Busta Rhymes, Chino XL, Clipse, Cypress Hill, Def Jef, De La Soul, Digable Planets, Digital Underground, DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, Donald-D, Doug E. Fresh, Eric B. & Rakim, (Kid) Frost, Fu-Schnickens, Fugees, and finally Furious Five & Grandmaster Flash.

Did I leave out Sugar Hill? Shame on me.

Now get your asses to your local record stores.

If I was unemployed I'd have added song recommendations.

But I will say, check out

the Rap Symphony - Marly Marl, Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, etc.
Buddy - De La Soul, Jungle Bros, Tribe Called Quest, etc.
Roxanne Roxxanne by UTFO is my favorite old school rap (other than Rapper's Delight)

For whole CDs...
Freedom of Speech - Just Watch What You Say by Ice T,
Death Certificate by Ice Cube and
It Takes A Nation Of Millions by Public Enemy should be in every Hip Hop fan's collection

Did I mention that I'm not even really a hip hop fan, I'm a rocker, big time.

PS. Blues-wise you can't go wrong with Albert King or Albert Collins and for a less edgy leaning Blues curiousity the best is Bobby Blue Bland (could listen to his greatest hits every day).

Okay, quitting time!!!

CC
Jul 30th, 2003, 01:21 AM
Well you obviously caught me on a day when I don't feel like working much.

Here is a small sample of Hip Hop variety restricted to stuff that I actually own (some old, some "no longer cool", some "never was all that cool", some gangsta, some funny, some uplifting, some straight up ignorant but I like it anyway)...

Positive K, Queen Latifah, Rob Base and DJ EZ, Rock Run-D.M.C., Salt 'n' Pepa, Sir Mix-a-Lot, Snoop Doggy Dogg, Sporty Thievz, Tim Dog, Tone Loc, Too $hort, A Tribe Called Quest, UTFO (way under-rated), Whodini, X-Clan, Lauryn Hill, House of Pain, Ice Cube, Ice-T, Jungle Brothers, Kid 'n Play, Kool G Rap and DJ Polo, Kool Moe Dee, Kris Kross, KRS-One, Kurtis Blow, MC Lyte, Naughty By Nature, Nelly, N.W.A., OutKast, 3rd Bass, 50 Cent, Arrested Development, Audio Two (under-rated), Big Daddy Kane (the best IMO), BizMarkie, Boogie Down Productions, Busta Rhymes, Chino XL, Clipse, Cypress Hill, Def Jef, De La Soul, Digable Planets, Digital Underground, DJ Jazzy Jeff & the Fresh Prince, Donald-D, Doug E. Fresh, Eric B. & Rakim, (Kid) Frost, Fu-Schnickens, Fugees, and finally Furious Five & Grandmaster Flash.

Did I leave out Sugar Hill? Shame on me.

Now get your asses to your local record stores.

If I was unemployed I'd have added song recommendations.

But I will say, check out

the Rap Symphony - Marly Marl, Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, etc.
Buddy - De La Soul, Jungle Bros, Tribe Called Quest, etc.
Roxanne Roxxanne by UTFO is my favorite old school rap (other than Rapper's Delight)

For whole CDs...
Freedom of Speech - Just Watch What You Say by Ice T,
Death Certificate by Ice Cube and
It Takes A Nation Of Millions by Public Enemy should be in every Hip Hop fan's collection

Did I mention that I'm not even really a hip hop fan, I'm a rocker, big time.

PS. Blues-wise you can't go wrong with Albert King or Albert Collins and for a less edgy leaning Blues curiousity the best is Bobby Blue Bland (could listen to his greatest hits every day).

Okay, quitting time!!!

Yay! I got one out of the lot. :p

I would invest in more Blues CDs rather than Hip hop though. I like it better. And a little Jazz. I should look into this seriously.

I need some more good Blues recommendations:

1. Albert King
2. Albert Collins
3.

the cat
Jul 30th, 2003, 03:37 AM
I agree with you 110%, Joe!

Thanks heavens for smooth Jazz and soulful Blues! :)

There is a reason why record sales are way down. People aren't inspired to buy mediocrity. And that's what music for the most part is today.

Doesn't Miss Love get the Dallas Mavericks? :confused: Most NBA teams are plodding teams who walk the ball up and look to play tough defense. But the Dallas Mavericks are the most fun team to watch play in the NBA because like the Lakers and the Celtics of the 1980's, they play fast and loose fast break basketball that's fun to watch. :D And they share the basketball, too.

Sam L
Jul 30th, 2003, 04:14 AM
I don't like rap music either. Half the time I don't know what they're saying.

King Satan
Jul 30th, 2003, 05:03 AM
Yay! I got one out of the lot. :p

I would invest in more Blues CDs rather than Hip hop though. I like it better. And a little Jazz. I should look into this seriously.

I need some more good Blues recommendations:

1. Albert King
2. Albert Collins
3.
BB King
Buddy Guy
Muddy Waters
John Lee Hooker (awesome!!!)
T-Bone Walker
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Taj Mahal
Koko Taylor (she's awesome :worship: )

I can go on forever, but i'll stop there ;) blues is what got me playing guitar. it does something for me that no other music does.

kiwifan, I left out the ice man :o

decemberlove
Jul 30th, 2003, 06:02 AM
ive been on a leonard cohen kick lately
tom waits, too

sartrista7
Jul 30th, 2003, 10:55 AM
ive been on a leonard cohen kick lately
tom waits, too

You love Leonard Cohen and Tom Waits! :hearts:

Yeah. That's real music. Genius.

doloresc
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:20 PM
i will be the first to admit that a lot of my opinion of rap is based on my age (i'm in my 50's). birthdates aside, i just find rap music harsh, unpleasant to the ears but i suppose the fact that i don't understand what they're saying prevents me fromenjoying it. as a long time fan of rhythm and blues, i don't appreciate that in this day and age rap has come to define the black experience. it appears that when people think of black music, they're referring to rap and that's travesty because there's such a rich catalogue of music from black artists and groups available to everyone.

i'm so elated to see mention of blues in this thread. my two all time favorites are the legendary alberta hunter, big maybelle and of course, etta james. other songstresses favorites include billie holiday, nina simone, dinah washington and anita o'day.

there's motown (the supremes, marvin gaye, tammy terrell, the four tops and many more) and the happy music of the 70's (the stylistics, the spinners, blue magic).

happy listening! :)

cellophane
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:22 PM
I don't like rap. It might have something to say, but it's just not for me...

Juju_La_Terreure
Jul 30th, 2003, 12:33 PM
I hate the music. But everyone has his own taste.
The only music you see on music channels on tv is rapp en R&B. Other musiclovers get no chances to listen to their music. i just copie my music from internet so,... i don't have much problems with it.

Rocketta
Jul 30th, 2003, 04:16 PM
wow, I didn't know the only music on TV was rap & RnB??? I thought when I turned to MTV I saw rock a lot of the times. hmm, I guess not I guess that was rock-rap. :o

Anyway, nobody has mentioned the new lady of the blues, Shameika Copeland. I like her a lot and she is very energetic with a great voice.

andylover_16
Jul 30th, 2003, 04:32 PM
thats nice :o .........anyways british music is the best...... and yes mtv does play rock sometimes but certainly not as much as they should and they usually play the crap stuff to they barely every play coldplay or radiohead.....they play thats heavan song with the guy that looks like andre aggassi to much and they play train way to much(calling all angels :rolleyes: ) agh so played!!!

andylover_16
Jul 30th, 2003, 04:51 PM
I like Nelly! :o


:eek:

sartrista7
Jul 30th, 2003, 04:58 PM
... as a long time fan of rhythm and blues, i don't appreciate that in this day and age rap has come to define the black experience. it appears that when people think of black music, they're referring to rap and that's travesty because there's such a rich catalogue of music from black artists and groups available to everyone.

i'm so elated to see mention of blues in this thread. my two all time favorites are the legendary alberta hunter, big maybelle and of course, etta james. other songstresses favorites include billie holiday, nina simone, dinah washington and anita o'day.

Shamefully, I've never heard anything by Alberta Hunter or Big Maybelle... but no blues singer I've heard surpasses Nina Simone. Billie Holiday is similarly legendary.

It's interesting how certain genres are conflated with race... obviously the prime exponents of e.g. the blues and hip-hop are historically black, just as the prime exponents of classical music are historically white, but I think it's erroneous to consider any musical genre as race-specific.

Coldplay and Radiohead never on MTV? Wow. In the UK, they are, like, ALWAYS on... Coldplay at least.

decemberlove
Jul 30th, 2003, 05:41 PM
You love Leonard Cohen and Tom Waits! :hearts:

Yeah. That's real music. Genius.


yay another fan :)

as for coldplay and radiohead never being on us mtv, PLEASE.

coldplay is always on, and i dont even watch mtv.

when i used to watch mtv, radiohead had that song out, with the cartoon video... constantly being played.

doloresc
Jul 30th, 2003, 05:44 PM
Shamefully, I've never heard anything by Alberta Hunter or Big Maybelle... but no blues singer I've heard surpasses Nina Simone. Billie Holiday is similarly legendary.

blues aficionados will argue with you about holiday and simone's blues status. to some they are jazz singers but i agree with you because true to the blues prerequisites, both ladies had much to emote about and it wasn't all positive.

It's interesting how certain genres are conflated with race... obviously the prime exponents of e.g. the blues and hip-hop are historically black, just as the prime exponents of classical music are historically white, but I think it's erroneous to consider any musical genre as race-specific.

your assessment of the historical perspective of musical roots is compelling. i never quite looked at it that way (particularly classical music) but you're spot-on.

i couldn't agree more but race specificity is an american reality moreso than other countries because of the varied racial make-up of our citizens. for example, a high school's student population may be 75% black and we could say in passing that it's an arbitrary statistic but that isn't going to stop people (of all races) from calling it a "black high school".

decemberlove
Jul 30th, 2003, 05:48 PM
ha! andylover neg repped me!

god forbid someone have a different opinion than yours. if that offends you that much, i suggest you shoot yourself now cos you wont be able to handle REAL life.

i used to be a huge oasis fan when i was younger, saw them 5 times, own all their singles from definitely maybe to whats the story, us AND import, have ten bootlegs, etc. so yeah, show me ignorance, kiddo when youre the one who assumes i know nothing about them. also, my email addy is named after a beatle song.

sartrista7
Jul 30th, 2003, 06:01 PM
blues aficionados will argue with you about holiday and simone's blues status. to some they are jazz singers but i agree with you because true to the blues prerequisites, both ladies had much to emote about and it wasn't all positive.

Yeah, I'm far from a blues aficionado but I'd always considered Holiday jazz, especially given the arrangements of her material. Nina... maybe songs like "I'm Going Back Home" would be hard to call blues, but when it comes to "Ne Me Quitte Pas" or "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood", that's definitely the blues to me.

(Though 'blues' encompasses such a huge range of stuff anyway, from old-skool stuff like John Lee Hooker to more rock'n'roll influenced material like Tom Waits and some PJ Harvey songs.)

your assessment of the historical perspective of musical roots is compelling. i never quite looked at it that way (particularly classical music) but you're spot-on.

i couldn't agree more but race specificity is an american reality moreso than other countries because of the varied racial make-up of our citizens. for example, a high school's student population may be 75% black and we could say in passing that it's an arbitrary statistic but that isn't going to stop people (of all races) from calling it a "black high school".

Thanks, and what you say is true too... it's just that now, when people of all races have the opportunities to try their hand at whatever genre they want, and when this has resulted in talented black classical musicians and talented white rappers, it's just so reductive to call R&B or hip-hop "black music".

lol decemberlove. I always wondered what Oasis sounded like to a non-Brit... everything about them is just so rooted in British working class culture. Same with Blur, Saint Etienne and Pulp, too.

CC
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:13 PM
Shamefully, I've never heard anything by Alberta Hunter or Big Maybelle... but no blues singer I've heard surpasses Nina Simone. Billie Holiday is similarly legendary.

It's interesting how certain genres are conflated with race... obviously the prime exponents of e.g. the blues and hip-hop are historically black, just as the prime exponents of classical music are historically white, but I think it's erroneous to consider any musical genre as race-specific.

Coldplay and Radiohead never on MTV? Wow. In the UK, they are, like, ALWAYS on... Coldplay at least.

Billie and Etta :hearts:

you don't know what love is ... until you've learned the meaning of the blues ... until you've lost a love you had to lose ... you don't know what love is ... you don't know how lips hurt ... until you've had to kiss and play the part ... :angel:

CC
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:21 PM
BB King
Buddy Guy
Muddy Waters
John Lee Hooker (awesome!!!)
T-Bone Walker
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Taj Mahal
Koko Taylor (she's awesome :worship: )

I can go on forever, but i'll stop there ;) blues is what got me playing guitar. it does something for me that no other music does.

kiwifan, I left out the ice man :o

Thanks sweets. I've made a note. :cool:

King Satan
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:22 PM
Thanks sweets. I've made a note. :cool:
You're welcome darling :kiss:

CC
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:30 PM
You're welcome darling :kiss:

This thread made me put in my Etta cd. Billie makes me sad, so I avoid her sometimes. :p

Who knows Diana Krall? ( :eek: )
Am I strange? :o

King Satan
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:38 PM
you know who i love also? Big Mama Thorton! :D she's great. especially when she did Hound Dog. (way before elvis ;))

I don't know Diana Krall. I'm more into guitar oriented blues.

CC
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:42 PM
Well she's definitely not your kind of girl. She plays piano and she does Jazz --- very smooth sexy voice. :)

King Satan
Jul 30th, 2003, 11:47 PM
Well she's definitely not your kind of girl. She plays piano and she does Jazz --- very smooth sexy voice. :)
I never said i didnt' like piano, or jazz :p

I like blues piano, and classical piano. that's one of my faves too, classical music :)

banana
Jul 31st, 2003, 12:53 AM
Give me hOle neday!!! rap sux rap sux rap sux