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AntennA
Jun 15th, 2003, 04:04 PM
Hi,

here's a quite interesting article from the Sunday Times about tennis being the first major sport where women earn more money than men. Enjoy!


Women ace men in tennis pay league
by Maurice Chittenden
June 15, 2003


WOMEN tennis players have smashed through the pay barrier to overtake men as the sport’s biggest earners. On the eve of next week’s Wimbledon tournament it has emerged that the three players with the biggest winnings in the world so far this year are all female.
Now experts are predicting that for the first time a woman will top the annual pay league in a major sport.

Although women are demanding “equal pay”, the achievement suggests they are not being held back by the few remaining major tournaments such as Wimbledon and the French Open that offer higher prize money to male players.

The highest-paid woman is Kim Clijsters, 20, who has won £998,600 this year, followed by her fellow Belgian Justine Henin-Hardenne, 21, with £919,300 and America’s Serena Williams with £887,300.

All three have made more than the highest-earning man, Spain’s Juan Carlos Ferrero, 23. He has won £883,600, nearly £115,000 less than Clijsters, even though he has played in 11 tournaments, two more than her.

The figures do not take account of the sponsorship deals and modelling fees of women such as Anna Kournikova, the Russian voted the sexiest player on the circuit in a recent magazine poll. Kournikova has estimated earnings of £10m a year, although she has never won a major event.

The Belgians and Williams, however, have earned the hard way, beating the men on court earnings alone with half this year’s season complete. There are 58 tournaments on the women’s circuit, seven fewer than the men’s.

Last year, Williams earned a total of £2.35m but was pipped in the pay league by Australia’s Lleyton Hewitt, 22 — Clijsters’ boyfriend — whose victory in the men’s singles at Wimbledon helped lift his pay to £2.76m.

Williams, 22, last year’s Wimbledon women’s champion, and her sister Venus, 23 on Tuesday, will be named the highest earners in women’s tennis when Forbes magazine publishes its annual list of the richest American celebrities this week.

The sport’s male establishment holds that women have an unfair advantage. While pressing for equal pay, the top women players have kept to three-set singles matches, leaving them fit enough to play doubles and mixed doubles matches as well.

Clijsters lost to Henin-Hardenne, in the French Open women’s singles final last weekend but eased some of the pain when she and Japan’s Ai Sugiyama, 27, captured the doubles title.

Many of the top male players, exhausted after five-set matches, resist offers to play in doubles partnerships, which are often won by “specialist” pairs.

Government ministers such as Patricia Hewitt, the trade and industry secretary and minister for women, and Tessa Jowell, the culture, media and sport secretary, have raised the issue of equal earnings for women at Wimbledon in line with the US and Australian Opens.

But Tim Phillips, the chairman of Wimbledon, calculated that last year the top 10 women’s players at the tournament earned on average 3.3% more than the top men. For every game they played, the women earned an average £815 to the men’s £609.

Phillips said: “Women players like Serena can play more matches which last less time and collect more money while the top men feel they cannot succeed in both singles and doubles. We think we have got it just about right.”

This year’s women’s singles champion at Wimbledon will receive £535,000, £40,000 less than the men’s champion. The top prize for women at the French Open was just £15,000 behind the men’s title purse of £596,000, won by Ferrero.

Pat Cash, the former Wimbledon champion, said yesterday: “I don’t think anybody has a right to bitch. Kournikova probably makes more than everybody put together, but there are only four women players who can ever win a tournament.”

But Annabel Croft, the former British number one, said: “It’s fantastic for the women. It’s not just two weeks of work. It’s 15 years of dedication and hard work.”

wongqks
Jun 15th, 2003, 04:30 PM
this is stupid, the only reason why kim justine and serena earn more than top men is coz they actually win more rounds :rolleyes:

*JR*
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:26 PM
Pat Cash, the former Wimbledon champion, said yesterday: “I don’t think anybody has a right to bitch. Kournikova probably makes more than everybody put together, but there are only four women players who can ever win a tournament.”

See Pat, alot of it is unsolicited "advance deposits" sent in to JF Turner by ppl like Frank Riley after Da Boi's topless calendar troll! :p

SJW
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:38 PM
LMFAO@Kim winning nearly a million this year so far

disposablehero
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:41 PM
Nice ridiculous spin by the author. Maybe he should try comparing the #10 Men's money winner to the Women, then compare #25 as well and #50 and #100.

alexusjonesfan
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:47 PM
we're back to the age old argument that women should be paid less because they play fewer sets :rolleyes:

Wimbledon even came out with 'stats' demonstrating how men's tennis is 'technically superior' justifying their prizemoney policy

disposablehero
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:53 PM
50. Feliciano Lopez, Spain 193,657
50 MAJA MATEVZIC, SLO 119,394

That's just wonderful that Kim is making more money than Ferrero. But tell me, is it really Kim that NEEDS the money, or is it Maja Matevzic and the 1000 women who make less than her?

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:54 PM
GIRLS, YOU ROCK!!!!!! I think this is just a display of women being more, uh, consistent!! Ah haaaaa!

And go KIMMY!!!!!!!!!! Holdin' it down!

SJW
Jun 15th, 2003, 05:55 PM
u forget men get paid a lot more

XMan
Jun 15th, 2003, 07:26 PM
50. Feliciano Lopez, Spain 193,657
50 MAJA MATEVZIC, SLO 119,394

That's just wonderful that Kim is making more money than Ferrero. But tell me, is it really Kim that NEEDS the money, or is it Maja Matevzic and the 1000 women who make less than her?

That's indeed the real problem. I don't understand the purpose of this article.

katrientje
Jun 15th, 2003, 07:32 PM
I don't know the purpose of the article, but I guess it proves Men's tennis has more depth in the field, no? The WTA has 3 or 4 very big earners...

*JR*
Jun 15th, 2003, 08:56 PM
LMFAO@Kim winning nearly a million this year so far
Taxman (The Beatles)

Let me tell you how it will be
There's one for you, nineteen for me
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don't take it all
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman

If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,
If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.
If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,
If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet.

Don't ask me what I want it for
If you don't want to pay some more
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman
And you're working for no one but me. :p

Rollo
Jun 15th, 2003, 09:17 PM
And there have been more than a few years past where the top earner in all of tennis was a female. It's already been done:)

The author is a blockhead.

LeonHart
Jun 15th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Lets not forget that most top women also play doubles, while most top men don't!

SJW
Jun 15th, 2003, 09:21 PM
Clijsters is the only top woman i can think of who plays dubs regularly :confused:

oh and Daniela

disposablehero
Jun 16th, 2003, 12:14 AM
And there have been more than a few years past where the top earner in all of tennis was a female. It's already been done:)

The author is a blockhead.

Yes, I remember Navratilova doing it a few times in the 80's. In fact, I think she was at one time the all-time money leader, male or female.

Sam L
Jun 16th, 2003, 12:19 AM
If Martina N didn't come out, she would've got so much more money from endorsements. OMG! Also if she tried to take on a more feminine look like Evert.

alexusjonesfan
Jun 16th, 2003, 12:29 AM
Here are the top 30 career prize-money leaders for the WTA and ATP:
1 STEFFI GRAF
$21,895,277
2 MARTINA NAVRATILOVA
20,657,585
3 MARTINA HINGIS
18,344,660
4 ARANTXA SANCHEZ-VICARIO
16,917,312
5 LINDSAY DAVENPORT
15,590,075
6 MONICA SELES
14,815,095
7 VENUS WILLIAMS
12,514,144
8 SERENA WILLIAMS
11,525,983
9 JANA NOVOTNA
11,249,134
10 CONCHITA MARTINEZ
10,415,761
11 CHRIS EVERT
8,896,195
12 GABRIELA SABATINI
8,785,850
13 NATASHA ZVEREVA
7,792,503
14 JENNIFER CAPRIATI
7,451,417
15 NATHALIE TAUZIAT
6,649,907
16 MARY PIERCE
6,535,955
17 HELENA SUKOVA
6,391,245
18 PAM SHRIVER
5,460,566
19 AMANDA COETZER
5,429,995
20 KIM CLIJSTERS
5,319,340
21 MARY JOE FERNANDEZ
5,258,471
22 LISA RAYMOND
4,802,354
23 ANKE HUBER
4,768,292
24 GIGI FERNANDEZ
4,681,906
25 ZINA GARRISON
4,590,816
26 IVA MAJOLI
4,355,707
27 LARISA NEILAND
4,083,936
28 JUSTINE HENIN-HARDENNE
3,962,718
29 SANDRINE TESTUD
3,687,384
30 AMELIE MAURESMO
3,659,007

and

Sampras, Pete
$43,280,489
Agassi, Andre
$26,871,233
Becker, Boris
$25,080,956
Kafelnikov, Yevgeny
$23,400,673
Lendl, Ivan
$21,262,417
Edberg, Stefan
$20,630,941
Ivanisevic, Goran
$19,765,438
Chang, Michael
$19,096,332
Courier, Jim
$14,033,132
Kuerten, Gustavo
$13,787,075
Stich, Michael
$12,590,152
McEnroe, John
$12,539,622
Muster, Thomas
$12,224,410
Bruguera, Sergi
$11,632,199
Hewitt, Lleyton
$11,372,169
Rafter, Patrick
$11,103,311
Korda, Petr
$10,448,450
Krajicek, Richard
$10,050,825
Corretja, Alex
$9,894,980
Enqvist, Thomas
$9,850,907
Rios, Marcelo
$9,521,531
Ferreira, Wayne
$9,500,858
Bjorkman, Jonas
$9,240,442
Moya, Carlos
$8,748,571
Woodbridge, Todd
$8,744,851
Connors, Jimmy
$8,641,040
Safin, Marat
$8,507,425
Woodforde, Mark
$8,324,401
Henman, Tim
$8,227,108
Wilander, Mats
$7,976,256

Rtael
Jun 16th, 2003, 12:41 AM
Martina N. technically would be the all time leader for women or men, if she was awarded the same amount fo money for her wins as Steffi was....she just played at a time when women players got a lot less money......she has over 300 titles, Singles and Doubles and that's definitely worth more then 20mil in today's prize moneys =P

SJW
Jun 16th, 2003, 12:43 AM
Wow@Serena being number 8 already :eek:

calabar
Jun 16th, 2003, 12:59 AM
All of these (all-time) list of prizemonies are meaningless if they are not indexed for inflation.

ksgyh
Jun 16th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Agreed calabar, who knows what inflation-adjusted figures would show. The men do have more depth. There are also more men winning sporadic tournaments, as opposed to being like Serena, Justine and Kim, who perform consistently at all tournaments, GS and smaller tourney the like.

Even at #10, I'll bet the women vs men earnings are different. All top 10 men could be making the same amount of money, whereas it's very clear who the top money-winners in the women's game are.

This article was so biased, I laugh at this kind of "reporting" and "journalism."

alexusjonesfan
Jun 16th, 2003, 01:16 AM
some notes on the lists posted above:

I don't buy the argument that the women get more chances to make money than the men. Other than the grand slams, the men pretty much always play best of 3 sets. So what is it that stops these players from taking the same chances as their female counterparts to play doubles during the regular season? Just like the ATP, the WTA has a lot of 'doubles specialists' so I'm not sure how that justifies rewarding ATP players higher winnings.

Looking at the lists, one glaring inequity is that the top 30 male earners make would almost all fit into the top 10 of the female list! There's also other interesting things like:
-Pete Sampras made the twice the money of Steffi Graf while winning about 2/3rds the number of slams. Even Steffi's husband has made more money than her while winning less than half her number of slams!
-The article stated that the women get to make just as much money by having the extra time to play in doubles etc. Well, Navratilova, with her 57 slam titles (guess she made good use of that 'extra time') has made just a bit more than two male single slam winners (Ivanesevic and Chang) in her whole career.
-There's more than one example of male players who have never won a slam but still have made much more money than female multiple slam winners (like Rios, Corretja, Enqvist etc. who have much more than Capriati, Pierce, Sabatini etc.)
-Even if you go by only recent slam history (when the prizmoney is supposedly more equal) One player on the men's side who's won one grand slam ('00 US) and made another final ('02 AUS), Marat Safin, has earned over twice as much as Justin Henin-Hardenne who has also won one and reached the final of another.
In fact, they've both won similar numbers of titles (11 and 12) but Safin's made a 'bit' more in cash (either the ATP pays a lot more or most of Marat's wins are tier 1's and he reaches a lot of other finals and Justine mostly wins lower tier events and doesn't often reach the higher rounds ;))
So how is having less prize money for a women's grand slam champion supposed to narrow the gap?

alexusjonesfan
Jun 16th, 2003, 01:19 AM
All of these (all-time) list of prizemonies are meaningless if they are not indexed for inflation.

Sorry, I don't know if they are...I just got the numbers from the WTA and the ATP's official sites. The WTA numbers were from June 9th of this year and the ATP released this list last year I think.
I dunno what that says about whether they've been adjusted for inflation but thanks for the good point :)

disposablehero
Jun 16th, 2003, 01:21 AM
Even at #10, I'll bet the women vs men earnings are different. All top 10 men could be making the same amount of money, whereas it's very clear who the top money-winners in the women's game are.


10. Augustin Calleri, Argentina 546,418
10 PAOLA SUAREZ, ARG 342,422


The big problem, however, is not the Slams. It is the Tier I (except IW/MI) and lower events.