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DA FOREHAND
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:50 PM
Lindsay will pass her in the rankings, and most likely represent USA in singles at the Olympics, along w/Serena.

Couver
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:52 PM
I totally forgot about the Olympics. You make a good point. Plus I'm sure you've made a lot of people's day by pointing this out.

slydevil6142
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:06 PM
I love how everyone makes it seem like venus is just falling right out of the top ten when in fact she has only played 5 tournments this year. I know ppl were getting use to her playing and winning many tournments but the fact is that this part of the season has never been a strong one for Venus... apart from 2002 she tends to struggle alot more in the clay court season. I suspect with clay court season ending and grass and hard court tournments coming up we will she her climbing back atop the rankings after all she only has to add one or two tournments to pass those ahead of her who are having fantastic seasons.

Sanneriet
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:08 PM
Maybe she will have to play dubs with Serena in a reversal of fortunes! Actually, I think she will improve her ranking (and end up playing against Serena in the Olympics--one of my peeves with Olympic tennis--"teammates should not have to play one another)

faboozadoo15
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:15 PM
funny that 3 years ago we had venus and monica comfortably 1 and 2... and now its possible that neither ofthem will be able to play in athens? hopefully venus defends the gold. i know monica probably won't be playing. serena, venus, lindsay, chanda, jennifer, and probably meghan soon will be ranked above her unless monica gets a deserved miracle in her career.

Mr. Man
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:24 PM
:rolleyes: Vee. Hopefully she'll boost her ranking up during hardcourt season. I know for a fact she doesn't like being that low.

Go Vee.

Dawn Marie
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:28 PM
Venus never won a grandslam being the top seed. Nor ranked #1.

The olympics are still ways to go.

Venus controls her destiny. She will play more tourneys and climb back up.:)

Simplify
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:29 PM
And the Olympics are when? :confused:

Dawn Marie
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:35 PM
In 2004...plenty enough time for your girl Anna to qualify.:)

Bounty Hunter
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:39 PM
Venus will rise again..... :wavey:

Fingon
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:40 PM
Venus is the defending champion, she automatically qualifies

Sanneriet
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:46 PM
Venus is the defending champion, she automatically qualifies

Sanneriet
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:46 PM
Sorry, I meant to ask Fingon if that is true?

Dawn Marie
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:55 PM
Hey thanks Fingon, for that info.:) I didn't know that if you're the defending champ that that means one is already qualified?

faboozadoo15
Jun 11th, 2003, 09:56 PM
what about defending bronze medalist??? huh? lol

Sanneriet
Jun 11th, 2003, 10:08 PM
Eligibility criteria for players wishing to compete in the Olympic Tennis Event

Age Eligibility:
MEN: Minimum 14 years by 31/12/1999
WOMEN: Minimum 15 years by 15/9/2000

All Players must:
Make him/herself available for selection to represent his/her country in any of the International Team Championships of the Federation for 2 of the following years - 1997/1998/1999/2000 - provided that one of those years is either 1999 or 2000. In 1997,1998,1999 or 2000 of the Davis Cup or Fed Cup, a player who makes him/herself available for selection for one Tie will be deemed to have fulfilled the requirement for that year.

Number of Competitors:
MEN: A maximum of four (4) men may compete in the men's singles event and a maximum of two (2) men may compete as a team in the men's doubles event.
WOMEN: A maximum of three (3) women may compete in the women's singles event and a maximum of two (2) women may compete as a team in the women's doubles event.

Nominations:
MEN: A maximum of four (4) men may be nominated by any one country unless that country has doubles players ranked 20 or better as of 10 July 2000. In such case, the maximum number of men nominated by that country may be up to six (6).
WOMEN: A maximum of four (4) women may be nominated from any one country.

Size + Composition of Draws:
Where practical no players from the same country shall be placed in the same quarter of the Draw.
Men's Singles:
64 players with not more than four (4) players from any one (1) country comprising: 48 Direct Acceptances 14 ITF Places (Wild Cards) * 2 Invitations (Wild Cards) **
Men's Doubles:
32 teams with not more than any one (1) team from any one (1) country comprising: 24 Direct Acceptances 8 ITF Places*
Women's Singles:
64 players, with not more than three (3) players from any one (1) country comprising: 48 Direct Acceptances 14 ITF Places (Wild Cards) * 2 Invitations (Wild Cards) ** Women's Doubles:
32 teams with not more than one (1) team from any one (1) country comprising: 24 Direct Acceptances 8 ITF Places (Wild Cards) *

*Based on International Computer Ranking and geographical location ** selected by Tripartite Commission of ITF/IOC/NOCs

Selection Date:
International computer rankings of 10 July 2000 will be used to select players eligible for Direct Acceptance in singles and doubles.

Entry Deadlines:

By 31 March 2000 - ITF send Entry Forms by Country to National Associations (NA)

By 15 May 2000 - NAs/ National Olympic Committees (NOC) return Entry Forms to ITF

By 12 July 2000 - ITF to advise NAs/NOCs the names of players eligible for direct acceptance for singles and/or doubles based on the international computer rankings of 10 July 2000

By 1 August 2000 - NAs / NOCs to advise ITF which of their eligible players have been selected to compete in the singles and doubles events; and Submit to ITF their applications for ITF Places (Wild Cards)

By 10 August 2000 - ITF selects ITF Places and advises NAs/NOCs

By 15 August 2000 - Tripartite Commission select the 2 Invitations (Wild Cards) for each of the men's and women's singles events.



THis is from the 2000 Olympics. I don't think the "Defending" champion gets any special consideration.

griffin
Jun 11th, 2003, 10:08 PM
Are you sure about that Fingon? Everything I've read regarding the 2004 games says they'll pick teams according to rankings (not that I've looked that hard)

Good grief, the Games are over a YEAR away - so much can happen with the rankings in that amount of time don't you think it's silly to worry about this now?

tennisIlove09
Jun 11th, 2003, 10:56 PM
Athens isn't until 2004. We are summer of 2003. A year and a half still have to go.

I'm sure Venus will be top 4 in America. Even if Lindsay passes her, she's still #3 in America. BJK will let her go.

Frank_Rulez
Jun 12th, 2003, 01:08 AM
Athens isn't until 2004. We are summer of 2003. A year and a half still have to go.

I'm sure Venus will be top 4 in America. Even if Lindsay passes her, she's still #3 in America. BJK will let her go.
but if Ruben and Jen C past her, she'll become #5..........
and it's more likely to award a spot to Lisa Raymond and
Lindsay Davenport for the doubles...............
if Venus does drop out of TOP 10, it's likely this is the case,
it's not impossible, if Venus doesnt improve soon,
she'll be having a bit of trouble as she has
3 more Slam finalist points to defend, that's no joke.......

however, Lindsay i believe has to play a Fed Cup match though,
i dont see it yet..........hopefully she'll play soon

1jackson2001
Jun 12th, 2003, 01:13 AM
interesting

Infiniti2001
Jun 12th, 2003, 01:22 AM
If "ifs and ands" were pots and pans, the whole damn world would be a kitchen! Wouldn't it?

IFs are POINTLESS

tennisIlove09
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:10 AM
but if Ruben and Jen C past her, she'll become #5..........
and it's more likely to award a spot to Lisa Raymond and
Lindsay Davenport for the doubles...............
if Venus does drop out of TOP 10, it's likely this is the case,
it's not impossible, if Venus doesnt improve soon,
she'll be having a bit of trouble as she has
3 more Slam finalist points to defend, that's no joke.......

however, Lindsay i believe has to play a Fed Cup match though,
i dont see it yet..........hopefully she'll play soon

I don't see Capriati and or Rubin passing her anytime soon. Rubin will be losing a lot of her points in LA. Capriati can't win an event. I don't see any other American passing her.

anton
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:13 AM
I hope venus can go to greece.

I want to go to Greece also. Anybody know anything about the hotels in Greece?

Fingon
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:50 AM
Are you sure about that Fingon? Everything I've read regarding the 2004 games says they'll pick teams according to rankings (not that I've looked that hard)

Good grief, the Games are over a YEAR away - so much can happen with the rankings in that amount of time don't you think it's silly to worry about this now?

I am not 100% sure, I know I read is somewhere but I can't remember where :o

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:31 AM
that "defending champ" thing doesn't apply to the Olympics. a country sends it BEST players to compete regardless of how that athlete performed 4 years before.

if Venus doesn't make the grade, her bony ass will be left off the team. simple as that. and since Serena already has a history of playing doubles with others, that will not be a problem for BJK. it's Venus who plays exclusively with Serena, not vice-versa. so if Venus seriously wants to qualify, she knows what she has to do. i'm not gonna get into an "iffing" battle over whether she will or not. USA will win regardless. :)

Infiniti2001
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:54 AM
I doubt boney ass http://members.fortunecity.com/infinitiqx4/2bb06880.jpgVenus is sitting at home worrying about Athens 2004 right now. :eek:

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2003, 04:18 AM
damn! i wonder if the bodyguard likes her with all that meat on her inner thighs...:eek:

DA FOREHAND
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:48 PM
tennischick you only wish you had the body of Venus Williams. I'm sure Venus will do what it takes to get her ranking back up, and qualify for the Olympics. It's in her hands.

Dava
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:49 PM
Whoa, the Olympics are not for another 18 months, when does the selection begin (I mean the cut off for the Olympics).

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:22 PM
Da Forehand: i was only responding to my stalker. ;) given Venus' talent, she is clearly capable of doing whatever she needs to do.

DA FOREHAND
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:25 PM
Aiight my bad, I'll call off the dogs. ;-)

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:42 PM
:kiss: :kiss: and just for the record, i like my body just fine. so does my man... :p

DA FOREHAND
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:45 PM
That's all that matters...if you're secure in your self image, you won't attempt to pick on the body/image of others....live and let live.

Venus is a top flight athlete and tennis player, and there's nothing wrong with her body on or off the tennis court.

skanky~skanketta
Jun 12th, 2003, 04:20 PM
oh please!the olympics.....thats a long way to go. venus will notch it up a coupla gears by wimbledon. she sure as hell better!

Infiniti2001
Jun 12th, 2003, 04:24 PM
well excuse me miss dual citizenship... I personally do not have time to stalk people who can't keep their stories straight-- granted this is the internet. This is a public message board and I will respond to any poster regardless of what they think . You give /say shit expect it in return :eek: :rolleyes:

2ace2
Jun 12th, 2003, 05:31 PM
The advantage of having only played 5 tournaments till now is that if she really wants to go to the Olympics, she can always play more tournaments and easily gain points. So I'd say: Go Venus in Athens! :D

CapFan#1
Jun 12th, 2003, 05:48 PM
The advantage of having only played 5 tournaments till now is that if she really wants to go to the Olympics, she can always play more tournaments and easily gain points. So I'd say: Go Venus in Athens! :D


Venus play more tournaments... now that is funny ;) That ain't gonna happen. She ain't out of the race yet, but she does need to notch it up a little. Wimbly and the hard-court season should help! I see Serena, Venus, and Cappy going to athens in 2004!

lizchris
Jun 12th, 2003, 05:56 PM
Why would Venus want to go to the Olympics in 2004? She can't do better than the results she had in 2000.

griffin
Jun 12th, 2003, 06:06 PM
Should she stop playing Wimby and the US Open as well?

lizchris
Jun 12th, 2003, 06:09 PM
Should she stop playing Wimby and the US Open as well?

That's a stupid question becuase those events are held every year and her performance counts towards her ranking. The Olympics are held every four years and starting in 2004, her performance there will count towards her ranking, but the points will come off the next year.

griffin
Jun 12th, 2003, 06:18 PM
:rolleyes:

Dawn Marie
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:27 PM
Venus plays few tourneys but is still high in the rank. She only has to add some to her ranking and she will be right back up there. Now Venus is looking pretty good next year.. for the summer Olympics. She has few points to defend so far in the 2003 season. If she does pretty good at the end of 2003 she will rise up far by 2004. Hell she can rise up in 2003. All she has to do is play some tourneys after the Us Open.

She has no WTA tour championship points to defend either.

Venus stated in a recent article that she is putting her design business aside and will focus on her tennis.

Dawn Marie
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:29 PM
Here is the article.

Eclipsed Venus puts fashion dreams on hold
Reuters
Jun 2 2003 10:02AM

PARIS, June 2 (Reuters) - Long since eclipsed by her younger sister, the once-mighty Venus Williams cut a pitiful figure at the French Open after suffering her worst defeat in more than a year.
It was a loss which ended her run of four consecutive grand slam finals. Never mind that Venus had lost all four to Serena - the point was that only her sister could beat her.

But after Russian teenager Vera Zvonareva snuffed out her Roland Garros chances on Sunday, Venus Williams - twice a Wimbledon and U.S. Open champion - faced the world with honesty and a candour rarely witnessed before.

Languid stares and bored replies - long a Venus hallmark - were replaced by refreshing frankness, reflecting a realisation that things must change if she is to regain the top spot.

It seems tennis may once again take priority in the life of a woman whose commitment to the sport has often been questioned, not least by herself.

"I would love to win a major and I would love to finish number one," she said, still shocked by her 2-6 6-2 6-4 defeat at the hands of the 18-year-old Russian.

"I suppose I'll just play more tournaments, play more matches. I think that will help me also to .. definitely get into the groove of things."

This is a far cry from the situation two years ago when Venus gave the distinct impression that she needed simply to turn up at events to walk off with the silverware.

She won her Wimbledon and two U.S. Open crowns in 2000 and 2001 while playing a light schedule.

Fashion and design played an equally important part in her life as tennis and it appeared the American, forced to grow up in front of the cameras, could balance the two.

The 22-year-old is certified as an interior decorator and this year is due to graduate with a degree in fashion design from the Art Institute at Fort Lauderdale.

Already she is chief executive of her company V Starr Interiors, named after her own exotic name, Venus Ebone Starr Williams.

She has been spending more and more time 'hands-on' at the company's Palm Beach Gardens headquarters in Florida.

"I go to the office, I pick out fabrics, I take telephone calls, I do all kinds of things," she said earlier this year.

All that may be put on the backburner now, however, as Venus makes it clear she is far from finished in the tennis world.

"What do I want to accomplish? Obviously a lot of tournament wins all that good stuff.

"I don't think it will be extremely difficult because I've won majors before, I've won tournaments before.

"I feel like I have the experience to be successful and now I just have to go on and do it."

DA FOREHAND
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:37 PM
"Languid stares and bored replies - long a Venus hallmark - were replaced by refreshing frankness, reflecting a realisation that things must change if she is to regain the top spot."

LOL She still looked bored in her interview...Venus has a keen sense of history, and will never rollover, she will be back to make her mark. Believe dat! ;-)

Cam'ron Giles
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:43 PM
one of my peeves with Olympic tennis--"teammates should not have to play one another)

:confused:

In athletics, dont you usually have two or three americans in the final? In boxing, they are not competing as a team...or in swimming, diving...:rolleyes: