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prophet2
Jun 11th, 2003, 04:41 PM
BIRMINGHAM, England (AP) -- Russian teenager Maria Sharapova was ordered to tone down her grunting during her 6-3, 6-2 victory Wednesday over Nathalie Dechy in the second round of the DFS Classic.

Sharapova, who at 16 is one of the game's most promising young players, was warned by tournament officials after Dechy and players on an adjacent court complained about her high-pitched shrieks.

WTA Tour supervisor Donna Kelso and tournament referee Denise Parnell came on the court to ask Sharapova to lower the volume.

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Under the sport's ``hindrance'' rule, a player can be penalized a point for excessive grunting.

Sharapova was quieter for a while, but after three points she went back to loud grunting. Dechy then complained to chair umpire Kim Craven.

``It was one of the loudest (grunts) I have heard,'' the French player said. ``But I just played my match and tried not to care about it.''

In other matches, seventh-seeded Alexandra Stevenson of the United States lost 3-6, 7-5, 6-3 to Virginie Razzano of France.

Second-seeded Eleni Daniilidou of Greece defeated Meilen Tu of the United States 7-5, 6-1, and No. 3 Magdalena Maleeva of Bulgaria beat Jane O'Donoghue of Britain 6-2, 6-4.

Sharapova is louder than Monica Seles, who was warned about her grunting at Wimbledon a decade ago.

``It's difficult for me because I have been doing this since I was four,'' the Russian said. ``But I have to think about how I can control it. If you get a complaint you just have to try to make people happy.

``I don't necessarily like it when I watch it on TV, but it is just automatic for me. But it's not going to be a major concern.''

Glenn
Jun 11th, 2003, 04:44 PM
LOL OMG, does she really grunt THAT hard?
Geez, I've heard so many things about her grunts, but I tought it was just like Seles or something, but when adjacent courts start complaining, it's got to be bad... lol

Jordan.
Jun 11th, 2003, 04:46 PM
I cant wait to see her on TV. ;)

GoDominique
Jun 11th, 2003, 04:58 PM
It must be a lot worse than Monica's. After all, Dechy has played Monica 3 times already and you didn't hear anything about complaints, so it's not that Nathalie is over-sensitive.
Yeah, she should lower the volume, but please only after I have seen/heard 'it' on TV. ;)

DA FOREHAND
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Gruntgate II

stay tuned

Spirit
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:02 PM
Gruntgate II

stay tuned

ROTFL! :D

auntie janie
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:04 PM
Yeah, I can't wait to hear it too. :D High-pitched shriek, that does not sound like Monica's grunt! Maybe it sounds more like BRUCE LEE killing someone with kung fu! :eek: :D

Funny, I just posted a prediction on Russian Roulette that Wimbledon will have their Grunt-o-meter out again for Maria, and that was before I read this. She's getting pretty famous for this screaming now, and I doubt the top players are going to accept it silently. :D

auntie janie
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:08 PM
LOL, 2 threads for this business already. :D

Glenn
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:19 PM
Justine Henin-Hardenne vs Maria Sharapova

"I won't lower my hand until she stops producing those noises!"

:p

Caz
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:28 PM
Her screams sound like someone being tortured, and at Birmingham, you can even her her screaming on centre court, whilst she's playing on an outside court.
In fact, my friend and I were only remarking the other day, (whilst watching a match on another court in Birmingham, and listening to Maria's screams), that it must be annoying not just her opponent, but *all* 7 other players on the 4 outside courts. It really was only a matter of time before complaints started coming.

-Sonic-
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:35 PM
In fact I totally heard her screaming, and I'm in Berkshire....

maratgirl
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:38 PM
LOL. louder than Monica? O my God!! :p

ys
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:43 PM
Is her grunt more erotic than Harkleroad's?

SJW
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:51 PM
Justine Henin-Hardenne vs Maria Sharapova

"I won't lower my hand until she stops producing those noises!"

:p

:fiery:

MS
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:56 PM
Her grunt?. Pfff, Caz, we could hear that in Paris ;)

schris
Jun 11th, 2003, 05:57 PM
is she a very loud Francesca Shiavone`s version ? ;)

SJW
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:15 PM
In fact I totally heard her screaming, and I'm in Berkshire....

OMG so am I :angel:

Lee-Waters' Boy
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:18 PM
when i saw her she was louder than lindsay lee-waters which is a feat in itself

Brandon85
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:21 PM
young girls always like to grunt...its not cool everyone laughs at you

SJW
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:27 PM
i sure do like to grunt :angel:

Gus
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:31 PM
I'm in Australia, and now I understand what was this very loud grunt all around Sidney this afternoon.
Just shocking.

Brandon85
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:34 PM
hehe...it happens to the best of us...

Martian Willow
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:36 PM
I don't know why people keep going on about Monica. The question should be, is Sharapova louder than Serena?!

Julian
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:49 PM
The loudest I have ever heard was of course Monica and has anyone ever heard Lilia Osterloh grunt?? OMG it's a shriek I can actually hear it now busting my ear drums! lmao but I would like to see Maria on t.v...not for the grunt in that matter though ;)

CoryAnnAvants#1
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:53 PM
OMG louder than Lindsay Lee? That girl sounds like someone shoved a pool cue stick up her ass after every shot :o If Maria is louder than that...I'd be complaining too.

The worst has to be Francesca Schiavone though. Not only is it loud and ugly sounding, but she grunts two seconds after she hits the ball :rolleyes:

Julian
Jun 11th, 2003, 06:54 PM
The worst has to be Francesca Schiavone though. Not only is it loud and ugly sounding, but she grunts two seconds after she hits the ball :rolleyes:

I find it quite funny! :D But lmao at Lindsay Lee comment!

jrm
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:10 PM
maybe more annoying than loud

Felly Tournato
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:15 PM
Sharapova, who at 16 is one of the game's most promising young players, was warned by tournament officials after Dechy and players on an adjacent court complained about her high-pitched shrieks.

Dirty!

RAA
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:17 PM
just wondering.. are there men on the ATP side that grunt loudly when they hit? and have they been warned or has this become an issue before on the men's side?

Tratree
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:18 PM
Funny how everyone thought Jennifer was the reincarnation of The Exorcist for complaining about Monica's grunting at Acura a few years ago, but no one has questioned Dechy and the others complaining. I've heard Sharapova and she's loud, but Monica is equally as loud at times. She is louder when she's more aggressive and that day she was very loud. A lot of people were commenting on it, that she seemed to be almost growling. Why is it natural and okay for Monica, but then people complain about Maria?

katrientje
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:27 PM
just wondering.. are there men on the ATP side that grunt loudly when they hit? and have they been warned or has this become an issue before on the men's side?
When I watch Kuerten play I always feel the need to push the "mute"-button

Vincent
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:41 PM
I don't know why people keep going on about Monica. The question should be, is Sharapova louder than Serena?!
ABSOLUTELY!Serena screams when she hits the ball!:D
Does that produce more energy?:angel:

Vincent
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:44 PM
OMG louder than Lindsay Lee? That girl sounds like someone shoved a pool cue stick up her ass after every shot :o If Maria is louder than that...I'd be complaining too.

The worst has to be Francesca Schiavone though. Not only is it loud and ugly sounding, but she grunts two seconds after she hits the ball :rolleyes:
Two seconds? That means she doesn't even stop for a second during a match, the ball comes so fast! It takes only 2 seconds to cross the net!:) :eek:

SJW
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:45 PM
grunting helps with power

or so i find....

disposablehero
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:48 PM
Funny how the only place these warnings ever occur is in England.

Lee-Waters' Boy
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:49 PM
OMG louder than Lindsay Lee? That girl sounds like someone shoved a pool cue stick up her ass after every shot :o If Maria is louder than that...I'd be complaining too.

The worst has to be Francesca Schiavone though. Not only is it loud and ugly sounding, but she grunts two seconds after she hits the ball :rolleyes:

Yes she is much louder than Lindsay IMO :eek: I actually saw them play against each other once, and wow that was fun lol. The match was moved indoors and it was one of those places where we had to sit above the court in the fitness room and look out through the glass to watch. THey were still loud from up there

Spirit
Jun 11th, 2003, 07:51 PM
Serena screams when she hits the ball! Does that produce more energy?

According to Einstein's famous theory, E=ms², yes.

This theory can be explained as follows:

E: The resulting energy.

m: The muscular mass which the female tennis player thinks she has, rather than what she actually has (although the two might be the same), usually given in pounds.

s: The scream of the female tennis player, usually given in decimals.

So when you take the muscular mass which Serena believes she has, and multiply that by the sound of her screech², you come up with the amount of energy she expends on any given shot.

This formula usually baffles the layman, but as you can see, it really is quite simple. :angel:

the cat
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:11 PM
Well said Willow! :)

This is ridiculous! :mad: Maria is finally starting to play some good tennis and now her concentration will be messed up trying to tone down her grunting. I say let the WTA Tour try to default her from matches. It won't happen. As I said this is ridiculous! I don't remember anyone in the juniors complaining about her grunting. Maria needs to concentrate on tennis and not grunting during matches.

SJW
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:16 PM
Funny how the only place these warnings ever occur is in England.

its also funny how England doesnt

a) boo its own players
b) support English speaking players just because they speak english :angel:

England might have stupid rules....but its code of conduct for fans ENSURES players arent barracked, abused and ill treated

Wimbledon is on its way....watch it and see how class-y we are :angel:

Mr. Man
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:18 PM
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I love grunting!

lmao Ferrero.

Spirit
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:19 PM
its also funny how England doesnt

a) boo its own players
b) support English speaking players just because they speak english :angel:

England might have stupid rules....but its code of conduct for fans ENSURES players arent barracked, abused and ill treated

Wimbledon is on its way....watch it and see how class-y we are :angel:

SerenaJ, I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not.

If you're not, then allow me to say one word about England's conduct during Wimbledon: tabloids.

Worst in the world for tennis.

Spirit
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:21 PM
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

You've posted over 1500 messages, yet a thread about grunting is the stupidest you've encountered here?

Your eyes must be extremely selective when you scan the topics. :p

SJW
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:33 PM
SerenaJ, I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not.

If you're not, then allow me to say one word about England's conduct during Wimbledon: tabloids.

Worst in the world for tennis.

the tabloids are brilliant during slams

where else than England would u get the most popular paper saying "nice ace serena!" when showing Serenas backside in the catsuit, or "seen ya Serena!" when showing a shot of down the front of her dress when serving

the headlines are quite witty, and the tongue in cheek humour is totally like me :angel:

im sorry, but the fact we dont have a top female player makes us less biased, less arrogant, less ignorant, more appreciative of the talent on offer and more sensitive than countries WITH top players (Belgium, USA and France namely)

ys
Jun 11th, 2003, 08:36 PM
grunting helps with power

or so i find....

Not only with power, but also with reach. Big exhale helps to produce a maximum effort, and that's what grunt really is. I was not once surprised that I could return the balls that I thought were completely out of my reach when I tried to reach them with a grunt.

RayRob
Jun 11th, 2003, 11:03 PM
Reports of freak glass shattering is spread world wide

In the early hours of Wednesday morning, Calafornian police were called to investigate a series of mysterious glass shattering throghout stores and malls which in-turn caused a free-for-all looting session.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1720000/images/_1723711_window300afp.jpg

Officer Mario Estefan was one of the first called to the scene. "This is a huge mystery - the phenominun seems to have spread state-wide".

Over the Atlantic ocean, late afternoon on Wednesday, in the UK midlands, reports broke out of more glass shattering. At the DFS Classic Tennis event in Birmingham, UK which is part of the WTA Tour, every car window screen was shattered.

http://www.adeptsoftware.com/adam/album/FWB%20-%20Earlier/TN_1997-12%20FWB%20Christmas%20-%20Smashed%20window.JPG

One dissapointed fan, who's shattered car wind screen is pictured above said; "I called AutoGlass in the hope that I would have been one of the first to get in touch inorder to get new windscreen, but by time I called I was told I was the 100, 001 st person to call in with this complaint!"

Some stunned drivers in the Birmingham area, were tourtured by an incesant high-pitched screech prior to the car wind screens smashing. Tournament officials believe that the glass-smashing phenominun was caused by the "grunt" of one of the contenders, Maria Sharapova of Russia during her match against French player, Natalie Dechy. WTA Tour supervisor Donna Kelso and tournament referee Denise Parnell had to intervien during the match to politly ask Sharapova to tone it down. "Our very important hospitality attendants, complained of pricey wines ruining their designer outfits when wine glasses shattered into pieces - and we couldn't tolerate that any longer!" said Denise Parnell.

Sharapova's French opponant comented ``It was one of the loudest (grunts) I have heard, but I just played my match and tried not to care about it - although it was hard to ignor the shattering of the glass hospitality louge behind the umpires chair - that did put me off a little!"

However, Sharapova had very little to say on this world wide spread phenominun; ``It's difficult for me because I have been doing this since I was four,'' the Russian said. ``But I have to think about how I can control it. If you get a complaint you just have to try to make people happy."

Sharapova triumped, 6-3, 6-2.
____________________________________________

:rolleyes: sorry if you find it cheesy - I was bored :p

-Rachel :)

Dava
Jun 11th, 2003, 11:13 PM
Mashas grunt is so load! I was there, but when she tried to mute it, it just made things worse. At one point Dechy took the piss and grunted really load.

baleineau
Jun 11th, 2003, 11:20 PM
i was on centre court watching Maleeva, but suddenly heard grunting in the distance, that had to be coming from one of the outside courts (at least 200m away and with lots of activity in between :eek: )

So I rush down to see what's going on.

I got there too late - the intervention had already occurred - but I can definitely say that yes, in fairness, Dechy had legitimate reasons to be annoyed. Maria's grunting was exessive and unacceptable. She played well too, and Dechy never really got into her stride, although she played well in the doubles later.

I think it's perfectly legitimate to complain about grunting. If a player is taking too long between points, that's a legitimate reason to complain. If they grunt so loud that the entire tournament site can hear it, the a complaint is okay.

But GO grunters! I love the controversy and needle you put into matchups :devil:

starr
Jun 11th, 2003, 11:24 PM
Sharapova's shrieks are VERY loud and VERY high pitched. Grunting is one thing, but shrieking and screaming when striking the ball annoys me quite a bit. Sometimes a player will forget to scream and the lull is so very nice.

The funny thing is that sometimes the Serena's scream is the loudest when her shot isn't very hard at all. During the semi at RG she screamed extradorninarly hard when hitting a 78 mph second serve.

The men grunt and moan-groan, but none of them scream when hitting the ball.

Venus Forever
Jun 11th, 2003, 11:37 PM
I agree with Starr, grunting is one thing, but shrieking is another.

I personally, hate all types of grunting, but, you do get used to some, like Serena's, Monica's, Venus', etc.

But then, none of them shriek. :rolleyes: :o

auntie janie
Jun 11th, 2003, 11:38 PM
I can't wait to hear this sound! I am expecting Bruce Lee in full battle cry crossed with the sound of a fox in heat. :D

Dawn Marie
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:02 AM
The kid was screeching like this since she was 12. When I saw her down in Florida she was loud as well. She doesn't actually grunt though but shrieks.

Anyway, if she was as loud as people claim then maybe she should be told.. but they also can;t expect her to change her oncourt scream either.

Tatree, this is different than the Jennifer scenario. Jen has been playing against Seles for centuries and to suddenly start to complain because she was losing was imho inconsiderate of her.

Janie it sounds imho kinda like Dementieva's but louder and screechier.

Rocketta
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:12 AM
Ok, in Charleston once when she was playing my friend said, "Whose having sex?" :p and then later when she was playing again an older lady said, "Someone sounds like they are having a sexual experience!" :p Both times we were not on her court but somewhere else! :eek: :eek: :eek: So she is loud and her grunt/shriek/scream is very erotic sounding which frankly I guess can be off puting if your trying to concentrate.

Dava
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:22 AM
So she is loud and her grunt/shriek/scream is very erotic sounding which frankly I guess can be off puting if your trying to concentrate.

With those looks! Damn Right!

the cat
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:52 AM
You tell 'em Dawn! :bounce: She's been grunting like this when since she was 4 years old and now all of a sudden her opponents are complaining. :confused: I don't ever recall anyone in the juniors complaining about Maria's grunting.

The bottom line is Dechy got wiped out by a 16 year old and she is trying to cover her arse by making an issue out of Maria's grunting.

dava, it's loud not load. ;)

Venus Forever
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:53 AM
The Junior Tour is a lot different than the WTA tour. ;)

F-R-E-A-K
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:56 AM
I Gotta Here That!

sartrista7
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:13 AM
SerenaJ, I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not.

If you're not, then allow me to say one word about England's conduct during Wimbledon: tabloids.

Worst in the world for tennis.

The tabloids treat tennis like they treat everything else in the world. It's quite funny, once you remove the stick from your arse.

Masha's shrieking is easily the loudest I've heard.

tennischick
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:43 AM
i can't imagine anyone grunting louder than Monica :eek:

and i still think Steffi had the best attitude about it. ;)

the cat
Jun 12th, 2003, 04:31 AM
TC, what was Steffi's attitude about Monica's grunting? If I recall correctly she just played on without a fuss. Or was it Steffi who caused the grunting controversy during the 1992 Wimbledon?

faboozadoo15
Jun 12th, 2003, 04:49 AM
tennischick must not have ever seen a match that serena williams or elena bovina have ever played... what a pity.

steffi did "handle" it well, but there's nothing to handle. she had played gabriela for years and gabby had just as loud of a grunt that monica had... she just wasn't winning 3 of the 4 majors every year, that's all.

Ted of Teds Tennis
Jun 12th, 2003, 05:25 AM
Tratree wrote:
Funny how everyone thought Jennifer was the reincarnation of The Exorcist for complaining about Monica's grunting at Acura a few years ago, but no one has questioned Dechy and the others complaining.

Probably because people generally think Capriati is a nasty b****. :p

Ted of Teds Tennis
Jun 12th, 2003, 05:26 AM
The Cat:

IIRC, wasn't it Tauziat who first complained about Monica's grunting at Wimbledon in 1992?

TM
Jun 12th, 2003, 05:41 AM
not on every point though...... :eek:

Mr. Man
Jun 12th, 2003, 06:07 AM
You've posted over 1500 messages, yet a thread about grunting is the stupidest you've encountered here?

Your eyes must be extremely selective when you scan the topics. :p
uhh no. I meant the situation is stupid, Getting warned for excessive grunting? But hey, It must have been really loud, like 30 dying cats dying at one time. hhahaha

Brian Stewart
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:10 AM
Supposedly, the first to complain was Maria Alejandra Vento-K, who was playing on Court 4. It's one thing if your opponent complains. But for someone on another court to do it? It must have been mega loud.
I prefer players who are SBV. (Silent But Violent. :))

Look for the "Gruntometers" to be out in full force at Wimbledon.

1jackson2001
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:23 AM
So there's gonna be penalites everytime a player passes a certain mark on the "Gruntometer"?

Who patented such a thing?

BasicTennis
Jun 12th, 2003, 07:33 AM
Hope she's more quiet in bedroom matches.:eek:

SJW
Jun 12th, 2003, 11:01 AM
The tabloids treat tennis like they treat everything else in the world. It's quite funny, once you remove the stick from your arse.


totally :worship:

the cat
Jun 12th, 2003, 11:41 AM
Yes Teds, it was Tauziat who first complained about Monica's grunting in the 1992 Wimbledon.

What does IIRC mean?

Dava
Jun 12th, 2003, 11:47 AM
Supposedly, the first to complain was Maria Alejandra Vento-K, who was playing on Court 4. It's one thing if your opponent complains. But for someone on another court to do it? It must have been mega loud.
I prefer players who are SBV. (Silent But Violent. :))

Look for the "Gruntometers" to be out in full force at Wimbledon.

At BMH the outside courts are all one big court, with deviders in between. I was also watching the Lee-Kabitchi match.

~ The Leopard ~
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:19 PM
It stands for Indian Industrial Relations Commission, if I recall correctly. ;)

stefanieforever
Jun 12th, 2003, 12:53 PM
i can't imagine anyone grunting louder than Monica :eek:

and i still think Steffi had the best attitude about it. ;)
I don't appreciate her on this kind of goodness attitude sometimes for somepeople would take it as thing to go without saying and preach down it.

decemberlove
Jun 12th, 2003, 01:14 PM
i think a professional athlete should be able to handle any type of noise without it breaking concentration. if your concentration is that easily broken, then you are obviously not there 100%, anyway.

Fantastic
Jun 12th, 2003, 02:40 PM
Dechy hasn't complained about Monica's grunting because she probably respects her too much. Maria, on the other hand, is a rookie and Nathalie probably feels that she doesn't have to respect her.

But Maria must have one hell of a sore throat if she's grunting as loudly as people say she is. A definite candidate for a Strepsils endorsement contract, I think. ;)

fammmmedspin
Jun 12th, 2003, 03:20 PM
Another really really silly umpire to add to the list. Sure it might be annoying but how does anyone propose to determine what is an allowable grunt. Monica, Elena D, Francesca OK - Maria not OK? We can now wait for someone to challenge Serena's grunt/shrieking just as she looks like getting a winning position or Monica's first round opponent to try and get her defaulted. We could even get a combination with the FO let debate. Serena serves, Serena shrieks, hand goes up, ace passes net, opponent asks for let, opponent claims she was hindered by shriek, Serena serves again, Serena serves into net......could go on all day....
Motto: don't make a ruling you can't enforce fairly.

skanky~skanketta
Jun 12th, 2003, 04:34 PM
she must be possessed or something!