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Philbo
Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:53 AM
http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,6535281-26698,00.html


WORLD No. 1 Serena Williams reckons the Australian Open is chickenfeed when it comes to boosting a bank account that already bulges like her biceps.

She took home $1.128 million for beating sister Venus in this year's Australian Open final.

But the multi-millionaire binge-shopper gets much more excited about the US Open because the bucks are bigger. Asked how much of a motivating force money is to her, the reigning Australian, French, Wimbledon and US Open champion said: "When I first began it was a larger factor than it is now.

"I'm always motivated at the US Open because they always pay a lot. I mean, this year I think it will probably be $1.45 million. Who wouldn't want to win that? But it's tough for tournaments like Australia. I definitely play to win the grand slam (trophy) when I go there."

Men's world No. 1 Andre Agassi, who won the same amount as Williams at this year's Australian Open, was taken aback by her comments.

"If you're asking me what I think of the prizemoney in Australia, my prayer is that I never get to the point in life where I think hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't a lot of money," he said.

Tennis powerbrokers are due to meet this week to discuss player demands for increased prizemoney.

The Australian Open has routinely offered more money each year and, while still lagging behind the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open, it also offers the best facilities.

Tennis Australia increased its prizemoney by 10 per cent this season and continues to slowly close the gap on its three grand slam partners. The tournament offers the same number of rankings points as the other grand slams.

Williams has already won $17.3 million in prizemoney and is already guaranteed of adding at least a further $191,051 by reaching the French Open quarters.

Incentives for winning majors and ranking bonuses would have the American boasting career earnings of more than $70 million.

Agassi has earned more than $38 million on court over his career and gives millions to charity each year.

Herald Sun

Philbo
Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:54 AM
Now if it was Hewitt who said something like this, most people here would go to town on him...

Oh well, whatever motivates you I guess....

Classy comments.....

kiwifan
Jun 3rd, 2003, 12:54 AM
Is the lynch mob forming yet?

Have fun y'all.

Philbo
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:00 AM
kiwifan - No the lynch mob is busy busting up on Hewitt atm....

Pureracket
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:03 AM
*runs to find harloo's quote*

treufreund
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:03 AM
you are right. If Hewitt said that all hell would break loose but when Serena says it will go something like "you go Rena, baby gurl, get that bling bling" or something idiotic like that. :rolleyes:

tennisvideos
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:04 AM
I wonder if Lleyton was an American how he would be treated? I mean McEnroe and Connors are both treated as living legends and they had worse tempers than Lleyton..... interesting...

Lisbeth
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:08 AM
All very true.

Serena seems to be on a mission to alientate-just-a-little-bit every grand slam hosting country - the French, the Aussies, wonder what she's got in store for the Brits ;) ?

Pureracket
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:09 AM
Harloo wrote:
"Let me give you a bit of advice:

If you don't like Serena, stop watching her matches. Especially her interviews...."

Havok
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:24 AM
LMAO, Pureracket, what a dumb quote. you can write that about everyone, really. anyways, it's hard to steer clear of everything about Serena since she's everywhere. anyways, if anybody said what Serena said, people would be turned off, it just so happened that Serena said it, and it does seem as though she is always driven to big bucks

JoeyWinson3.0
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:35 AM
I'm gonna say this now...

I have to say my respect for Serena which I had has now gone totally from recent quotes she has made. She is totally forgetting where she has come from.

The whole Williams story is fantastic, it's a fairytale. But for me Serena is just getting too far above her own station. She is a bloody exceptional tennis player, she is one of the all time greats no doubt, but you cannot frigging moan when you win that amount of money for winning the Aussie open. Agassi is perfectly right to disagree.

What angers me personally is that I have recently been accepted to join a journalism course at college. I believe in my own ability one hundred percent and I know that I have got the skills and abilities necessary to succeed in that field. I beat a lot of people to get on that course and impressed at interview stages and tests to get there. Financially I am not well off at all, my dad is a postman and earns about £14,000 a year, my mum is on disability benefit (they have been seperate since 1999). I'm struggling to raise £3,000 to actually pay for a flat (and find a flat)for a year to carry on with my course.

But what I mean is... if I get to a high echelon of my chosen profession, such as reading the BBC news etc, I will NEVER forget the struggles I have had (especially recently).

Rena's worked her way out of living a pretty rough childhood, but I think she is totally forgetting her roots, she just isn't keeping it real at all anymore.

Her recent comments are insulting to those who have a dream in their chosen career path who have had to start with very little.

Pureracket
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:05 AM
LMAO, Pureracket, what a dumb quote. you can write that about everyone, really. anyways, it's hard to steer clear of everything about Serena since she's everywhere. anyways, if anybody said what Serena said, people would be turned off, it just so happened that Serena said it, and it does seem as though she is always driven to big bucks
LMAO, I don't think the quote is dumb at all. The reason it's hard to steer clear of her is because you all seem to try to dissect every inch of every word she has ever said. If we are going to call something "dumb", that action would certainly get my vote.

What Serena said was correct. Who would not be inspired to play at the US Open for that much money. I certainly would. The fact that she says she plays for the Slam at the Australian is not saying anything about the decrease in salary at all!!!!! However, let me stop before it sounds too much like I'm defending Serena. She is making a fine living at what she is doing, and I'm very proud of her and her family.

Burberry
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:16 AM
Simply don't play then if you are not happy with the prizemoney!!! :p

Pureracket
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:24 AM
I'm gonna say this now...

I have to say my respect for Serena which I had has now gone totally from recent quotes she has made. She is totally forgetting where she has come from.

What the hell is this about? How are the "quotes" betraying her past at all? Knowing what you know about "where she has come from," how should she speak?

The whole Williams story is fantastic, it's a fairytale. But for me Serena is just getting too far above her own station. Would you care to tell us her station? Are you suggesting that she "stay in her place" and "not forget where she comes from" and simply settle for what is given to her. She is a bloody exceptional tennis player, she is one of the all time greats no doubt, but you cannot frigging moan when you win that amount of money for winning the Aussie open. Agassi is perfectly right to disagree.

She is one of the all time greats, but I did not hear her moaning about the money at all. She is simply saying she does not focus on the money.

What angers me personally is that I have recently been accepted to join a journalism course at college. I believe in my own ability one hundred percent and I know that I have got the skills and abilities necessary to succeed in that field. I'm sure you are. I beat a lot of people to get on that course and impressed at interview stages and tests to get there. Financially I am not well off at all, my dad is a postman and earns about £14,000 a year, my mum is on disability benefit (they have been seperate since 1999). I'm struggling to raise £3,000 to actually pay for a flat (and find a flat)for a year to carry on with my course.

But what I mean is... if I get to a high echelon of my chosen profession, such as reading the BBC news etc, I will NEVER forget the struggles I have had (especially recently). Nice story, but I don't see how any of this is dealing with Serena. You are finding a way to compartmentalize and stereotype all people who you think come from a particular economic background. Are you seriously believing the hype about their poor struggles? Have you ever heard them say that they had it so hard and could barely eat? That's besides the point, though. People have a right to respond the way they like. Economic struggle doesn't preclude a blatant desire for success.

Rena's worked her way out of living a pretty rough childhood, but I think she is totally forgetting her roots, she just isn't keeping it real at all anymore.

Her recent comments are insulting to those who have a dream in their chosen career path who have had to start with very little.

Give me a break!!!!! Again, where did you hear that Serena had a "pretty rough childhood"? If so, how is she "forgetting her roots"? Wanting to make money is keeping it as real as it could be to me. Bill Gates, Steve Forbes, nor Sam Walton have never been accused of "not keeping it real." I'm doing what I want to do in life, and I started out with very little. I'm not insulted at all by Serena's success nor do I ever expect her to want anything less than the best for her and her family in her life.

ozfan44
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:29 AM
Another Reason For Me To Hate Serena

disposablehero
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:31 AM
Well, if she's doesn't play OZ for the money, it looks like a golden opportunity for her to donate the whole amount to charity. The disposablehero foundation, perhaps. I remember when Lindsay was the dominant player, instead of insulting the countries whose limited resources go to equal prize money, she was speaking out against those who gave the men more, like Wimbledon. Serena seems to have gotten to the stage Martina Hingis was at about 4 years ago, where you are so dominant you no longer care how people will react to things you say.

Pureracket
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:33 AM
Another Reason For Me To Hate Serena
Whoa, partna'!!!!!

You actually HATE her? That's kinda scary in a sick kinda way. I'm glad she has security with her. :eek:

Philbo
Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:45 AM
I actually dont think that there is anything *wrong* with being motivated by, and wanting lots of money.

It pisses me off how in society, all the jobs that are for the benefit of others, all pay shit!! its like its a sin in our society to be paid well for doing work that helps others - for example, teacher, charity fundraiser, child care worker, etc, these are some examples of professions where people think the intrisnic nice feeling you get by helping others is supposed to be your 'reward' instead of money, whereas company executives earn more money than they could spend in a lifetime, or some minor leage baseball players who's talent and life work is to hit a ball with a bat (or any sports stars)...I think its a crock of shit that people look at money hungry people like its a negative. Wanting money should not be viewed as a negative imo.

The point I want to make though is that if LLeyton Hewitt said the exact same viewpoint he would be lynched by the mob on the boards who have taken a dislike toward him.

And anyone who criticised Evie Dominikovic for preferring to play Venus instead of Serena that defended thse comments by Serena is a huge hypocrite, speaking the truth is just that, speaking the truth.

persond
Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:56 AM
Another Reason For Me To Hate Serena


'Fess up, "sucker"; It didn't take very much to make you Hate Serena, now did it...??? Like you really did care, sucker, get a life. Serena at this very moment is in "abject" misery, about you hating on her...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

persond
Jun 3rd, 2003, 06:09 AM
Pureracket, I was about to do/say the same thing in response to that idiot HoeyPinson0.0...!!!

His attitude and tone is so "reminiscent" of the old "Antebellum" southern white, that it's scary. What in hell does he mean, "stay in her place", and "knowing her station" in life...??? Right "cheeky" of him/her, if you ask me...!!!

And, should he/she ever reach the "higher echelon" of his profession, I hope his/her remembering where he came from doesn't translate to mean he/she stays "mired" in their past...!!!

Further, isn't he/she an "avid/rabid" Hingis fan...???...??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

TheBoiledEgg
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:23 AM
its true though, Aus Open prizemoney is very low compared to other slams.
you get more money for winning a ATP TMS Series than you get for winning the Aus Open.

other slams have more than double the amount.

Still its alot of money.

Experimentee
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:26 AM
Serena was just joking about the fact that the Aus Open pays less. She didnt say it wasnt enough anywhere. Get a sense of humour :rolleyes:

SM
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:05 PM
for those who defend her saying shes speaking the truth and its natural to always want more...i disagree!

in relative terms, sure for SERENA the aus open pays a pittance but for 99.9% of the world they would kill to be in her position. She definately needs to be more cautious how she articulates herself. Sure she wants more but the manner in which she did it makes it like thousands of dollars = nothing!

Cariaoke
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:12 PM
omg, you guys really need lives...

http://rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/interviews/200306011518458b6a965125b8ee4500256d380048cb14.htm l

watch the interview and then come back in here and apologize for talking shit about Serena when you didn't see the words actually leaving her mouth in the manner you THOUGHT they did. You people will fall for anything and think what the press says or twists something is truth. I hope you're not this gullible off the board because if you are, I feel sorry for you. :o

JoeyWinson3.0
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:39 PM
Pureracket, I was about to do/say the same thing in response to that idiot HoeyPinson0.0...!!!

His attitude and tone is so "reminiscent" of the old "Antebellum" southern white, that it's scary. What in hell does he mean, "stay in her place", and "knowing her station" in life...??? Right "cheeky" of him/her, if you ask me...!!!

And, should he/she ever reach the "higher echelon" of his profession, I hope his/her remembering where he came from doesn't translate to mean he/she stays "mired" in their past...!!!

Further, isn't he/she an "avid/rabid" Hingis fan...???...???

---------

Ahh, so it's to do with race now. And why do you call me a he/she? I'm not known as Mandy at weekends you know.

Also your third paragraph actually doesn't make any sense.

Obviously though you know me so well, you can form well based opinions on me, we should go for a drink sometime, do you want me to turn up in drag or just normal.

brickhousesupporter
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:51 PM
Thanks Cari for posting the video link. Serena said earlier in her career that her motivation was the money. Not anymore. The only tournament where money could be a motivating factor is the USOpen. What is so wrong abut that?

bmxbandit
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:53 PM
i just LOVE lleyton hewitt. screw what everyone else says.

switz
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:04 AM
its true though, Aus Open prizemoney is very low compared to other slams.
you get more money for winning a ATP TMS Series than you get for winning the Aus Open.

other slams have more than double the amount.

Still its alot of money.

but you're looking at it in terms of us dollars. if the australian open in 2003 paid the same amount as wimbledon they would have to payed nearly three times as much in australian dollars, and about twice as much for the french and the us open. it is not tennis australia's fault that the australian currency was weak. i think you will notice next year that the prize money will increase a lot, as the aus dollar at that point should have appreciated by about 50% of its value from last years aus open.

Lisbeth
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:17 AM
What switz said!

ptkten
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:19 AM
Haven't people realized by now that Serena is sarcastic in her interviews. Half the things she says she doesn't mean literally :rolleyes:

switz
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:31 AM
The point I want to make though is that if LLeyton Hewitt said the exact same viewpoint he would be lynched by the mob on the boards who have taken a dislike toward him.



i love this. you are the hypocrite mate. you seem to have such a strong moral conviction against the lynch mob mentality when it comes to hewitt, but i seem to notice that every time there is a negative thread about dokic it is either started by you or most of the posts in it come from you. so one lleyton hewitt thread appears and suddenly you can't take the way people are judging him. then you go on about how people should not be criticised for telling the truth. well most truths are pretty relative: eg you think it's true dokic is a bitch, i think it is true that she is a product of an overbearing parent; you think it's true that lleyton is a great guy who is misunderstood, i think he is a spoilt little brat who i have no time for. i don't remember you going into the dokic thread where she was being criticised for saying that martinez did not do anything to beat her in rome and saying "Stop bashing on jelena, she is just telling the truth".

also what complete crap your serena/hewitt comparison is. i know that you are probably too busy finding ways to bash dokic to actually read any of the other threads on this board, but the fact is that serena is constantly being criticised for not giving her opponents praise when she losses; for her lack of respect for the traditional manners of tennis etc. it has just gone on for so long that most people have finally realised that not bringing it up is the only way to avoid the 5 page arguments between williams' fans and "haters".

btw nice use of the negative reputation feature. i think i made it pretty clear who i think the young australian of the year should be in the post that you obviously read, so your dokic comment is a really weak comeback. i was going to give you some positive reps back, but i couldn't because i have already given some to you recently.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 4th, 2003, 01:23 AM
i love this. you are the hypocrite mate. you seem to have such a strong moral conviction against the lynch mob mentality when it comes to hewitt, but i seem to notice that every time there is a negative thread about dokic it is either started by you or most of the posts in it come from you. so one lleyton hewitt thread appears and suddenly you can't take the way people are judging him. then you go on about how people should not be criticised for telling the truth. well most truths are pretty relative: eg you think it's true dokic is a bitch, i think it is true that she is a product of an overbearing parent; you think it's true that lleyton is a great guy who is misunderstood, i think he is a spoilt little brat who i have no time for. i don't remember you going into the dokic thread where she was being criticised for saying that martinez did not do anything to beat her in rome and saying "Stop bashing on jelena, she is just telling the truth".

also what complete crap your serena/hewitt comparison is. i know that you are probably too busy finding ways to bash dokic to actually read any of the other threads on this board, but the fact is that serena is constantly being criticised for not giving her opponents praise when she losses; for her lack of respect for the traditional manners of tennis etc. it has just gone on for so long that most people have finally realised that not bringing it up is the only way to avoid the 5 page arguments between williams' fans and "haters".

btw nice use of the negative reputation feature. i think i made it pretty clear who i think the young australian of the year should be in the post that you obviously read, so your dokic comment is a really weak comeback. i was going to give you some positive reps back, but i couldn't because i have already given some to you recently.


Oooo that was really well said, I wish I had said it first.

kell
Jun 4th, 2003, 01:49 AM
To everyone speculating about what would happen if Lleyton said this kinda stuff: it'll never happen! Lleyton doesn't care about money. That's why his focus is on Davis Cup. He really doesn't worry about winnings, coz he's already set for life...all he cares about is representing his country, which is admirable, whether you think he does a good or bad job in doing so.

This does not give me any reason to hate Serena. It was a fair comment by her, and probably made in jest. If money drives her, so be it. That's her business and she's a GREAT player. :D

....But it does give me another reason to ADORE Agassi,

Philbo
Jun 4th, 2003, 01:56 AM
As you say Switz,. truth is relative, and some truths are more offesnsive than others, Jelena's 'truth' is that Conchita didnt do anything agaisnt her, my 'truth' is that Conchita kept the balls in and made her run and deserved the victory.

Evie's truth that she'd prefer to play Serena is not an insult to venus whereas Dokic's typical "she did nothing' comments are just part and parcel of a bad sportswoman.

Some poeople feel hewitt is a bad sport, I disagree.

We all have tastes and certain players that we like and certain players we dont like, I dont like Jelena, I do like Hewitt, If Im a hypocrite for defending one and not defending the other, I will gladly wear the label!!

TennisHack
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:15 AM
The Australian Open has always been the 'wild child' of the Slams. It used to be notorious for its no-shows and only recently has it started living up to its Grand Slam status. I believe that, at one point, its status as a Grand Slam was threatened because so many players skipped it (this is when it was at the end of the season instead of the beginning). So it's no big surprise that it's lagging behind the other 3 in almost every department.

As for what Serena did or didn't say . . . you have to read the article and take note of how she's represented. I mean, "the multi-millionaire binge-shopper"?! I'm no Williams fan, but she deserves more credit than that. She's not stupid.

kell
Jun 4th, 2003, 03:27 AM
The Australian Open has always been the 'wild child' of the Slams. It used to be notorious for its no-shows and only recently has it started living up to its Grand Slam status. I believe that, at one point, its status as a Grand Slam was threatened because so many players skipped it (this is when it was at the end of the season instead of the beginning). So it's no big surprise that it's lagging behind the other 3 in almost every department.

As for what Serena did or didn't say . . . you have to read the article and take note of how she's represented. I mean, "the multi-millionaire binge-shopper"?! I'm no Williams fan, but she deserves more credit than that. She's not stupid.

Umm...I'm sure that I've heard Serena admit to a shopping addiction. It's not an insult...it's just saying how much she loves to shop. I'm a binge shopper(I'm just not a multi-millionaire)...there's nothing wrong with it.

But yeah, they were also trying to make her look bad beside Agassi, who gives so much to charity. But come on! Who's gonna look good beside Agassi?

Brandon85
Jun 4th, 2003, 03:32 AM
you shouldn't be in it for the money! you are winning a freakin grand slam!

Aussie_Kim
Jun 4th, 2003, 03:40 AM
I agree that if Serena isn't happy with the prize money she shouldn't play here.
I know I'm probably biased being Aussie & all but I think the Aus Open is an excellent tournament & prize money isn't everything.
IF Serena is playing just for money (I'm not saying she is, though ;) ) then she will lose my respect.
However, I think tennis players should ultimately be playing cos they enjoy playing tennis & ultimately not for money.
Also, I don't think its wise for Serena to say those sort of things, because its gonna hurt her reputuation in Aust. cos the Aus. Open is rated very highly here.

topspin
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:53 PM
I agree that if Serena isn't happy with the prize money she shouldn't play here.
I know I'm probably biased being Aussie & all but I think the Aus Open is an excellent tournament & prize money isn't everything.
IF Serena is playing just for money (I'm not saying she is, though ;) ) then she will lose my respect.
However, I think tennis players should ultimately be playing cos they enjoy playing tennis & ultimately not for money.
Also, I don't think its wise for Serena to say those sort of things, because its gonna hurt her reputuation in Aust. cos the Aus. Open is rated very highly here.

If you go back and read post #24 by cari, you will see what Serena really said about being in the game just for the money.

Cariaoke
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:58 PM
If you go back and read post #24 by cari, you will see what Serena really said about being in the game just for the money.
*snaps fingers in 'Z' formation*

people are so SOS these days... :rolleyes:

brickhousesupporter
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:59 PM
Everyone needs to watch the interview. Serena clearly says that when she plays the Aus open it is definitely not for the money. She plays to win the grandslam because there is no money to play for.

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 4th, 2003, 03:01 PM
I agree that if Serena isn't happy with the prize money she shouldn't play here.
I know I'm probably biased being Aussie & all but I think the Aus Open is an excellent tournament & prize money isn't everything.
IF Serena is playing just for money (I'm not saying she is, though ;) ) then she will lose my respect.
However, I think tennis players should ultimately be playing cos they enjoy playing tennis & ultimately not for money.
Also, I don't think its wise for Serena to say those sort of things, because its gonna hurt her reputuation in Aust. cos the Aus. Open is rated very highly here.

I suppose you would go to work if you werent paid at all right?

DA FOREHAND
Jun 4th, 2003, 03:15 PM
I'd wager that none of the top players are in it for the money. They all have a love of the game. Yes even Venus!

Lindsay was quoted as saying that early in her career there was extreme excitement about winning such a large amount of money, but now(i'm rich my words) it's not a motivating factor.

Venus and Serena could pull out of the WTA tour, and do exhos. and make more money than they do on the tour, if they (Serena) was only motivated by money that's what she'd be doing.

Inserting Andre into the conversation is odd. He was a total ass when her first came on the tour, now he's a poster boy for humanity in the tennis world? He reminds me of those holy rolling christians who lived a life of sin turn to the lord at age 60, and preach to others.