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TennisHack
Jun 2nd, 2003, 08:57 PM
We all know how much ESPN's coverage of RG sucks. Today was the last straw for me, because of broken promises about matches to be shown, so I've decided to complain to them. I urge all of you who have to suffer along to write them and complain. If enough people bitch, maybe something will happen.

Go here to fill out a complaint form: http://espn.go.com/sitetools/s/contact/espntv.html


This is my message, if you want something to go by. I'm sure most of you want to see more women's matches than they are showing, so let them know!! And remember, they also sucked up the rights to Wimbly this year.

"I am writing to complain about the coverage of Roland Garros, the French Open. Never before has tennis coverage been so atrocious, and with Wimbledon on the horizon, coverage has to get better.

My main complaints are with the fact that taped coverage is shown while live tennis is being played, and with the overabundance of Americans being shown. Time and time again, including today, taped coverage has been shown while live tennis was being played. ESPN chose to show the live Clement-Costa match followed by a TAPE of the beginning of the Kuerten-Robredo match while said match was going on live. Coverage ran over because of the use of the tape.

Also, matches were promised to be shown but have not been shown. Today, it was the Ferrero-Mantilla match; before, it was Lindsay Davenport. During today's coverage, it was promised that the Ferrero-Mantilla match, completed before coverage began, would be shown during the coverage today. It was not, and it apparently will not be shown tonight. Ferrero is supposed to be the favorite to win this tournament and yet he has had less airtime than anyone else. 4 rounds and no sign of him. He does have a large fan base in the States, believe it or not.

Americans are dominating the coverage. Yes, I understand this is the US and American players get priority over everyone else, but instead of showing live matches, you opt to show tapes of American matches. This is doing a serious disservice to your community.

Another big problem is the fact that you are showing the same match over and over. Agassi's second round victory got at least 3 plays on air, including being shown live. Capriati and Venus's third round matches were shown twice. And tonight, you have promised to show the same two matches you showed this morning, live or on tape delay.

If coverage does not get better by Wimbledon, you have lost at least one faithful viewer. Roland Garros is my favorite tournament and I will not stand by it being ruined because you have agendas to fill. Live scoring on the internet and NBC's expanded coverage will be more than enough for me; I might actually see someone with a Spanish or South American flag by their name then."

Mr. Man
Jun 2nd, 2003, 09:05 PM
Can I just copy and paste yours and send that to them. :p

Overall, I agree with your e-mail. Ferrero who? All they show are hightlights of his match... pathetic. He was last years runner up and a fav. damn, Sundays coverage WAS pathetic. I did not want to see Vee lose three times and baldy winning three times. good lawd.. I turned off the tv and went out. Carry on... :devil:

TennisHack
Jun 2nd, 2003, 09:21 PM
Sure, go ahead and copy my message ;)

You've seen highlights of Ferrero's matches? Wow, that's more than me . . .

TennisHack
Jun 3rd, 2003, 04:35 AM
*bump* Anyone laying odds on seeing the Belgians tomorrow?

WtaTour4Ever
Jun 3rd, 2003, 04:47 AM
Yes and did the ever show teh Capriati match!!

1jackson2001
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:55 AM
*gives a one man standing ovation*

TennisHack
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:20 PM
Thanks :o :)

faboozadoo15
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:22 PM
wow, im shocked. we might see both the belgians play their whole matches. kim was shown, and now we just saw justine's first set. REMARKABLE. maybe it was some of your complaints...

CanadianBoy21
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:29 PM
My second one today
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Let me just ask this question:
WOuld you ever show a Stanley Cup game(or any other hockey game for that matter) taped?
NO
Would you ever show an NBA playoff game(or for that that matter any regular season game) taped?
NO

Then stop showing Grand Slam Tennis matches taped period... showing live ones once in a while would be good. There should be no excuses for you lack of live coverage of tennis... the tennis coverage starts at 8am, with live matches going on, yet ESPN shows taped matches... heard of coming knowledge... yes it exists...get it.
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TennisHack
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:32 PM
So they did show Kim this morning? :rolleyes: Damn. My power was out with a storm.

We're going to see Justine's whole match :)

Nice, SuperDevil! I completely agree.

Mr. Man
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:36 PM
You've seen highlights of Ferrero's matches? Wow, that's more than me . . .
really? You don't have ESPN or ESPN2. That's where I've seen the highlights. They mainly just show the last point and him winning. But I bet they show him and Gonzo tomorrow, I mean why wouldn't they?

TennisHack
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:41 PM
really? You don't have ESPN or ESPN2. That's where I've seen the highlights. They mainly just show the last point and him winning. But I bet they show him and Gonzo tomorrow, I mean why wouldn't they?

Um, I do have ESPN & ESPN2, hence my starting this thread in the first place. I suppose our definition of "highlights" is different; though last night they did show more than 5 points from his match. The only other match I've seen anything from his is first round match vs Kratochvil.

I don't know, they could very well show other matches instead of his. Costa-Robredo is almost a shoo-in and if it goes long I'm not holding my breath. They could probably cut to some doubles if they had to. And of course it would be fitting if the only match they showed of his in full was one he lost . . .

Mr. Man
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:52 PM
Um, I do have ESPN & ESPN2,
lmao, I should've known. ::smacks myself::

Let's see aren't only two quaters playing tomorrow.. Costa-Robredo & Ferrero-Gonzo. They show both, They have time.

TennisHack
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:20 AM
Anyone willing to lay odds on whether or not the matches will be shown live or taped? ESPN said before that they'd start with Ferrero-Gonzalez, but that's the second match on after Costa-Robredo. I have a feeling it will all be on tape again.

1jackson2001
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:28 AM
Yes, I'm quite sure that they will be taped.

selesfan
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:30 AM
Anyone willing to lay odds on whether or not the matches will be shown live or taped? ESPN said before that they'd start with Ferrero-Gonzalez, but that's the second match on after Costa-Robredo. I have a feeling it will all be on tape again.

Its a given they will show the match taped, they have a clause in their contract that they can't show live tennis. ;) I miss the US coverage, I used to take off from work to watch live tennis but I haven't had to do that this year. ;) NBC will also show the semis taped as usual. :(

CanadianBoy21
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:36 AM
semis taped between Justine and Serena :eek:
oh well, I'll have to go to school on Thurday anyway, and make teachers even more convinced that my neck is soar so that I can skip friday and do my essays over the weekend ;)

Rocketta
Jun 4th, 2003, 03:36 AM
Hey I sent them some "feedback" and here's what I got, did y'all get this too?

Hi.

You've reached ESPN.

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yukon145
Jun 4th, 2003, 04:44 AM
I think its funny when it seems that we got more live coverage of the Aussie Open when the time difference is like 10 hours or something.

F-R-E-A-K
Jun 4th, 2003, 04:46 AM
lol haha trust ESPN to do that!?

Simplify
Jun 4th, 2003, 05:16 AM
I am SO NOT looking forward to their Wimbledon coverage. :sad:

One good thing about it is that we won't have to be tortured with constant coverage of 'ol man Petey! :bounce: :bounce: However, I'm sure it will be the "Agassi Open Part Three" as long as he's around. I'm still amazed at how they manage to show all of his matches LIVE and from warm-up to matchpoint. I think the Coria match was taped though.

TennisHack
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:38 PM
Hey I sent them some "feedback" and here's what I got, did y'all get this too?

Yeah, I did. I think it's their way of confirming your comments went through. I'm not holding my breath to hear back from them.

Rocketta
Jun 4th, 2003, 10:23 PM
Yeah, I did. I think it's their way of confirming your comments went through. I'm not holding my breath to hear back from them.

Oh me either!

TennisHack
Jun 5th, 2003, 12:30 AM
But apparently the bitching got someone's attention ;)

:kiss: to Tennis Week, they've been on our side the whole time!

Celeste
Jun 5th, 2003, 12:48 AM
I just sent something really good. I like Cliff, Mary Joe and Pam are terrible, and I let them know it. I can understand how Mary Joe gets these gigs because she married her agent and is hot-looking, but Pam stinks all around. They both suck and I think all of the tennis community is tired of them. I know I am. I would rather have Cliff alone. How Pam and Mary Joe got to where they are, I will have no idea. Mary Joe is fucking a top guy, so that explains her. Pam, who knows, maybe she gives good blow jobs.

TennisHack
Jun 20th, 2003, 02:32 AM
If you want to read this guy's other commentary piece, it is linked to my website under the "Commentary" section. Look for: ESPN Presents: The Agassi Open.

Wooden Images From Roland Garros
By Lawrence Jeziak
06/18/2003

After almost 90 hours of combined 2003 French Open coverage by ESPN and NBC, the highlight was the women’s final. While it was a straight-sets affair, its live presentation was unprecedented. NBC initiated live, complete match coverage in 1979 with the men’s final and "Breakfast at Wimbledon."The women’s final at Wimbledon and the men’s final at Roland Garros were added several years later.

ESPN picked up the Australian Open finals shortly after that. Finally, 24 years after NBC’s first “Breakfast at Wimbledon” telecast, French Open women’s singles was presented live in the United States.

Even as the 2003 women’s final received its due, much of the television coverage seemed like old times — like it was still 1979. NBC’s Bud Collins walked through the Roland Garros tennis museum carrying a wooden racquet and wearing what may have been the same kaleidoscopic outfit he wore for the initial "Breakfast at Wimbledon." ESPN’s Chris Fowler also held a wooden racquet at the end of one telecast.

These moments and others were more than sighs of nostalgia for the days when Bjorn Borg was king of the clay and Andre Agassi believed that "image is everything." Rather, this fondling of wooden racquets and repeated glances down memory lane were metaphors for the networks’ obsolete programming strategies. It symbolized two weeks of low-tech sports television, pathetically below the standards established for the NBA Finals, the Stanley Cup playoffs, the NCAA basketball tournament or the College World Series.

While ESPN presented live tennis each of the first five days of the tournament, including a focused delivery of Agassi’s dramatic five-set comeback over Mario Ancic on the third day, live action was hard to find. One match after another was presented on tape delay without explanation, without apology, even though live tennis was available. Most conspicuous was the presentation of taped women’s quarterfinal matches while Agassi’s match against Guillermo Coria was in progress. By the time ESPN aired the Agassi quarterfinal, it was over. ESPN’s web site ran its lead story on the Agassi upset, even as it invited Internet visitors to watch it. Similarly, NBC presented a tape of Martin Verkerk’s semifinal, trimming the first six games of the third set to more neatly fit this two-hour, 45-minute match into a three-hour format, even though Juan Carlos Ferrero and Albert Costa were warming up for their semifinal as NBC came on the air.

More outrageous is the network’s response to criticism of its reheated tennis servings. Like parents telling children to eat their vegetables "because they’re good for you," network executives insist that tape delays are in tennis fans’ best interests — regardless of the unpleasant taste.

According to Len DeLuca, ESPN senior vice president of programming, quoted by Tennis Week’s web editor Richard Pagliaro, "The key is what is in the best interest of the tennis viewers. Yes, fans can go get a score off the Internet, but we think the American tennis fans are intelligent enough to want to see these matches, as well as some of the outstanding features our production team has produced. This is nothing new."

Treating tennis as television’s step-child is certainly not new. Tennis has been left behind in a technology revolution that has enhanced all other sports presentations. While ESPN promotes a package of major league baseball games, regardless of regional boundaries, that are offered throughout the season; the NCAA basketball tournament, featuring 48 games on its first four-day weekend and offering live telecasts of all games on the Internet through a subscription at NCAAsports.com; tennis coverage remains stagnant.

What is new in TV tennis? ESPN’s Emmy Award-winning Spot Shot and the CBS Mac Cam provide definitive resolution when balls land close to a line. IBM’s web sites for Grand Slam events offer real-time scoring and detailed stories and statistics, but these sites have not evolved in the past five years.

The biggest change in TV tennis is the increase in commentators. During the women’s semifinals, ESPN squeezed four commentators into the broadcast booth, two more lurked on a terrace above Court Philippe Chatrier. Cheerleaders more than analysts, commentators could only be more partisan by wrapping themselves in the Stars and Stripes and wearing hats declaring, "I Love Andre!"

Beyond a collective fervor for American players, commentators offered little to enhance the viewing experience. Cliff Drysdale was so fascinated by the story of Xavier Malisse’s rapid heart-rate at last year’s Wimbledon that Patrick McEnroe and Mary Carillo asked: "You don’t follow tennis, do you, Cliff?"

Similarly, on the first weekend, NBC’s John McEnroe seemed to be hearing about Martina Hingis’s surgeries for the first time after he suggested to Carillo that the former No. 1 chose retirement over working to improve her fitness. And Carillo herself was wildly off base, predicting, with a bizarre impression of Bjorn Borg as a TV analyst, that Coria had "no chance" to beat Agassi.

Much of the coverage revolved around Agassi. Patrick McEnroe used "we" so frequently during Agassi’s matches they seemed like doubles partners. When Agassi was off the court, considerable time was spent discussing potential match-ups. Even after he was defeated, Agassi’s name remained on the tongues of the commentators. During the Serena Williams match with Justine Henin-Hardenne, Patrick McEnroe and Carillo compared Serena’s game with Agassi’s. After the women’s semifinals, ESPN’s "bonus coverage" consisted of — you guessed it — tape of Agassi’s match with Coria.

As the players make their transition from clay to grass court tennis, ESPN will shepherd its herd of commentators to the All England Club for the network’s initial visit. If Wimbledon is destined to be presented the way it has been covered in the past, this TV tennis junkie votes for a return to the live, commercial-free presentations produced by HBO in the late 1990s.

Of course, this TV tennis junkie is also rooting for Martina Navratilova and John McEnroe to compete in the mixed doubles.

Television correspondent Lawrence Jeziak also reviews films, writes poetry and teaches courses in film and writing. He critiqued TV coverage of the Australian Open in the February 11 Tennis Week.

TennisHack
Jun 23rd, 2003, 04:13 PM
It's Day 1 of the coverage! Was it worth your while to drag yourself out of bed? For my money, no. Especially since ESPN has decided to be Roddick's scouting reporter :rolleyes:

ptkten
Jun 23rd, 2003, 05:11 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

It has gone from bad to worse, 7 TOTAL GAMES of women's matches today. I can understand the pro-Americanism of the network but they are not even showing the top American womens. Davenport and Venus only get a few games and Chanda Rubin gets nothing!

And now Rusedski??? What the hell has he done the past year. Just so we can hear Brad Gilbert for another couple of hours. This is absolutely ridiculous. We could have watched Federer but instead we got someone who isn't even in the top 50.

Plus the commentators are horrendous. None of them know anything about the game. Carillo knows nothing about any of the lower ranked players or any of the ongoings of the tour since they only commentate for the slams. Mary Joe and Pam at least know a little more about the players. And the men's announcers, are downright awful, McEnroe and Drysdale are both so blatantly pro-American and it gets ridiculous. If I have to hear one more time about how great Roddick is, I will throw up, and I like him. Scouting for his match right now? What is this, the Roddick network. I'm really pissed too, because I know that we will get nothing of Dani's match coming up either.

Tratree
Jun 23rd, 2003, 05:59 PM
My email to ESPN:

I'm sure you guys spent a lot of money on your studio set at Wimbledon, but I'm seeing entirely too much of it on my TV. Stop with all the yakking and show us what we want to see....TENNIS. Yes, TENNIS. And not just male Americans or just males. I don't give a flying rat's ass about Greg Rusedski. He hasn't dont jack all year and I don't want to see his first round match. SEVEN games of women's tennis in over seven hours of coverage. That is SOOOO pathetic. Daniela Hantuchova is playing right now on court 2. She is one of the bigges stories at Wimbledon with all the anorexia rumors....God forbid you would cover that. Chanda Rubin just won a tourament and played a former GS winner, Iva Majoli. Of course you wouldn't show us that. If I see Brad Gilbert on my TV another time today I'm gonna scream. Get it together or give it back to TNT, who actually KNEW how to cover tennis.

cynicole
Jun 23rd, 2003, 06:13 PM
My email to ESPN:

I'm sure you guys spent a lot of money on your studio set at Wimbledon, but I'm seeing entirely too much of it on my TV.


LOL

And it's not even an attractive set!

TNT's was simple and classy. ESPN's kinda bulges out in fluidly ugly shapes.

victory1
Jun 23rd, 2003, 07:22 PM
Here's mine:


Your coverage of Wimbledon sucks. Both men and women are playing at Wimbledon, of course by your coverage it might as well be a men tournament. While I have your attention, your commentators also sucks. Can they just shup-up for a minute. In fact please do us tennis fans a huge favor, don't bid on the slams, let a better network cover it (TNT), did I say better, I meant more knowledgeable, and stick to what you guys know, Basketball, American Football, Baseball, and Hockey.

TennisHack
Jun 23rd, 2003, 07:24 PM
LOL at your Rusedski gripes :D My stomach dropped this morning when I heard this: "There are 12 American men in the draw, and 10 of them are playing today!" I'm surprised we saw as much of the Hewitt match as we did, though I see we're getting it again :rolleyes:

As for the whole Rusedski thing -- apparently ESPN has decided to become Andy Roddick's scouting reporter and decided to drag the viewing public along for the ride. I don't give a damn about Rusedski either, but since he's going to be Roddick's next opponent . . .

And let me say, Carly Guillickson is way much of a stretch. The Hantuchova-Bartoli match was more worthy of being shown than an American qualifier, just so they could spout about who her father was :rolleyes:

Tomorrow's going to be all about Agassi, though since only he and James Blake will be playing, there's a better chance to see some women. They'll probably show today's matches tomorrow on tape delay to make up for the lack of (USA)'s :D

Brian Stewart
Jun 24th, 2003, 12:05 AM
I minced no words in my email to ESPN. The last straw was showing the Hewitt match AGAIN.

I used the email address:
askespntv@espn.twdc.com

I told them I would be contacting their sponsors to express my outrage. As it is, Disney will probably be hearing from me shortly.

ktwtennis
Jun 24th, 2003, 01:09 AM
lol...You guys are hilarious!

TennisHack
Jun 24th, 2003, 04:20 AM
Brian Stewart :worship:

TennisHack
Jun 27th, 2003, 03:44 PM
After two days of promising coverage, ESPN goes and shoots themselves in the foot. They've gone back to the old, tired way of showing taped American matches while live tennis is still being played.

I mean, God forbid we watch 4 games of Schuettler-Martin and go back to the Venus match! :eek: Oh, no, we have to see it in full, which will throw off their coverage for the rest of the day :rolleyes:

TennisHack
Jul 1st, 2003, 09:39 PM
*big bump* if you want to bitch :D

TennisHack
Jul 3rd, 2003, 03:23 AM
WHO DO WE WANT TO SEE?

VENUS!

WHEN DO WE WANT TO SEE HER?

LIVE!

WHO DO WE WANT TO SEE?

SERENA!

WHEN DO WE WANT TO SEE HER?

LIVE!


Fuck Roddickmania -- go Jonas! :D

Rocketta
Jul 3rd, 2003, 03:27 AM
WHO DO WE WANT TO SEE?

VENUS!

WHEN DO WE WANT TO SEE HER?

LIVE!

WHO DO WE WANT TO SEE?

SERENA!

WHEN DO WE WANT TO SEE HER?

LIVE!


Fuck Roddickmania -- go Jonas! :D


You got that right! LOL

arcus
Jul 3rd, 2003, 04:12 AM
You got that right! LOL

Does anyone else think that patrick mcenroe is actually in love with andy roddick???????

alexusjonesfan
Jul 3rd, 2003, 04:17 AM
Does anyone else think that patrick mcenroe is actually in love with andy roddick???????

oh don't worry, if roddick wins wimby, he and pat will be flying off immediately to Canada to make it official...Pat'll have to fight off Brad at the altar though (yikes!:eek:, that could get ugly)

Crazy Canuck
Jul 3rd, 2003, 05:45 AM
oh don't worry, if roddick wins wimby, he and pat will be flying off immediately to Canada to make it official...Pat'll have to fight off Brad at the altar though (yikes!:eek:, that could get ugly)
Lest we forget that Jim Courier will be HOT on their trail.

Rtael
Jul 3rd, 2003, 05:51 AM
Cliff will be performing the ceremony.....he will alos be there when they consumate their relationship =P

LeonHart
Jul 3rd, 2003, 05:57 AM
Man, what decisions Andy has! He has Brad, Pat, and Jim all to pick from!;) Or maybe he'll just take em all :eek:

TennisHack
Jan 23rd, 2004, 08:18 PM
Well, I think it's time to give this thread a great big *bump*, since ESPN has done the impossible: have even worse coverage than they did in 2003.