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harloo
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:45 PM
Money talks for Serena Williams

By JOCELYN GECKER
.c The Associated Press

PARIS (AP) - Serena Williams has won more than $11 million playing tennis. Money, however, has not lost its charm for her.

Williams is three victories from earning $966,000 as the French Open champion. In January she won $654,000 as the Australian Open champion, and jokingly complained that wasn't enough.

``I've always been motivated at the U.S. Open because they always pay a lot,'' Williams said Sunday. ``I mean, this year I think it will probably be $950,000. Who wouldn't want to win that?

``But it's tough for tournaments like Australia,'' she said with a smile. ``I definitely play to win the Grand Slam when I go there.''

When told about her comment, Australian Open champion Andre Agassi said: ``My prayer is that I never get to a point in life where I think hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't a lot of money.''


My question is this why does Andre always have a nasty comment when another player is discussing money? This is not the first time remember when Yvegeny said that he felt that tennis did not pay enough, and Andre went out of his way to diss him, like he was the one who signed the checks. LOL

Anyways, HATERS don't come in with your usual bullshit. Don't want to hear it. IMO, Serena was joking. But of course she loves money. Who doesn't?

lizchris
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:48 PM
Money talks for Serena Williams

By JOCELYN GECKER
.c The Associated Press

PARIS (AP) - Serena Williams has won more than $11 million playing tennis. Money, however, has not lost its charm for her.

Williams is three victories from earning $966,000 as the French Open champion. In January she won $654,000 as the Australian Open champion, and jokingly complained that wasn't enough.

``I've always been motivated at the U.S. Open because they always pay a lot,'' Williams said Sunday. ``I mean, this year I think it will probably be $950,000. Who wouldn't want to win that?

``But it's tough for tournaments like Australia,'' she said with a smile. ``I definitely play to win the Grand Slam when I go there.''

When told about her comment, Australian Open champion Andre Agassi said: ``My prayer is that I never get to a point in life where I think hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't a lot of money.''


My question is this why does Andre always have a nasty comment when another player is discussing money? This is not the first time remember when Yvegeny said that he felt that tennis did not pay enough, and Andre went out of his way to diss him, like he was the one who signed the checks. LOL

Anyways, HATERS don't come in with your usual bullshit. Don't want to hear it. IMO, Serena was joking. But of course she loves money. Who doesn't?

Who cares about what Andre has to say? I'm pretty sure Serena doesn't.

per4ever
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:49 PM
what's nasty about that comment??

It's great to see that there are still players out there who realise what money worth is. Andre is definitly a guy who knows how important money is, and who realises that they are earning too much money. He's just down to earth :)

SJW
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:51 PM
hes right tho

Serena is earning millions a year and shouldnt of said that comment imo :(

i dont often disagree with her, but my feeling is sports stars are paid what they are worth (bar the men....they deserve less :p)

Martian Willow
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:54 PM
But of course she loves money. Who doesn't?

Andre?

Mase
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:54 PM
To be honest, I just dont get the problem... :confused:

King Lindsay
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:54 PM
I thought Andre and Pete were wrong about what they said about Yevgeny's comments a few years back, but there's not much love lost there, is there?

what Andre said about this was just a pretty normal comment. I think he's right. and maybe Serena was joking, but how do you know the reporter presented her comment to him as a joke?

irma
Jun 2nd, 2003, 04:55 PM
andre and family apparently were discriminated in the american junior circuit because they were not as rich and posh as the other players so he probably realize how he should appreciate were he is now!

Sanneriet
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:06 PM
Andre is right on. Joking about "only" earning over $650,000 is immature at best. She also basically said she only plays in Australia to have a chance at the Grand Slam.

Think the Aussies will remember this?

decemberlove
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:18 PM
She also basically said she only plays in Australia to have a chance at the Grand Slam.


whats so bad about that?

TonyP
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:18 PM
I never thought the players are over paid. it depends upon how much money the tournament is making and at the US Open, they support the USTA for about a year on the profits. At any rate, Americans usually love money, but don't admit it.

BrianII
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:18 PM
But who exactly is andre to talk ...people seem to forget this is the guy who at serena current age thought image was everything ...he chased every endorsement he could get made alot more money than tennis players with far better results ...everyone respect what andre has achieved today, but they seem to forget he was the original mister shallow ,talented but lazy ,money is everything guy when younger .

decemberlove
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:21 PM
I never thought the players are over paid. it depends upon how much money the tournament is making and at the US Open, they support the USTA for about a year on the profits. At any rate, Americans usually love money, but don't admit it.

love of money does not stop at Americans. its a human thang.

TM
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:27 PM
who cares..andre plugs one nostril at a time and blows his nose on the court every match.

harloo
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:28 PM
andre and family apparently were discriminated in the american junior circuit because they were not as rich and posh as the other players so he probably realize how he should appreciate were he is now!

Oh, thanks Irma for the info. So Andre is probably still scorned. Now I understand, because I never could understand why he was so fascinated with other players comments about MONEY. He is always classy in his interviews, but when it comes to money issues other players are discussing he likes to diss. And that's just what this was, a DISS. LOL

Mr. Man
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:30 PM
lmfao TM.

:rolleyes: Agassihole.

irma
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:30 PM
it's not about loving money but serena almost says australia is not worth to go for the money
she might meant it as a joke but still there are persons in this world who are glad with 10 euro;)

Helen Lawson
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:35 PM
I once did a movie where I had four scenes, I did them in two weeks and got paid $50,000. This was in 1967, so that was a lot more money then. Easiest payday I ever had!

Serena and Venus have never made it a secret that money is the primary, if not, sole, reason they play tennis. While it may not be totally admirable, they are at least honest.

faboozadoo15
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:35 PM
serena's comment was immature, and andre's was right on the money. he turned the question (that doesn't really have an answer) and applied it to himself when someone was obviously trying to get andre to say something bad about serena. good for him. i really don't see the problem.

jenny161185
Jun 2nd, 2003, 05:58 PM
lol AT irma Id love 10 euro now! Andre probably thinks serenas in a sport earning millions of dollars playing a sport while there are people out there alot less fortunate

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:00 PM
Money talks for Serena Williams

By JOCELYN GECKER
.c The Associated Press

PARIS (AP) - Serena Williams has won more than $11 million playing tennis. Money, however, has not lost its charm for her.

Williams is three victories from earning $966,000 as the French Open champion. In January she won $654,000 as the Australian Open champion, and jokingly complained that wasn't enough.

``I've always been motivated at the U.S. Open because they always pay a lot,'' Williams said Sunday. ``I mean, this year I think it will probably be $950,000. Who wouldn't want to win that?

``But it's tough for tournaments like Australia,'' she said with a smile. ``I definitely play to win the Grand Slam when I go there.''

When told about her comment, Australian Open champion Andre Agassi said: ``My prayer is that I never get to a point in life where I think hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't a lot of money.''


My question is this why does Andre always have a nasty comment when another player is discussing money? This is not the first time remember when Yvegeny said that he felt that tennis did not pay enough, and Andre went out of his way to diss him, like he was the one who signed the checks. LOL

Anyways, HATERS don't come in with your usual bullshit. Don't want to hear it. IMO, Serena was joking. But of course she loves money. Who doesn't?

how is this dissing serena? He's talking about himself not her.

BrianII
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:01 PM
Helen Lawson thats a bunch of crap, how exactly do Venus and serena play for the love of money and the other players not ..They are the players that play the least no of tournaments when they could merely show up collect the under the table appearence fee's lose first round and go home . Venus was rich as soon as she struck her first tennis ball so why not go the kournikova route rake in the dough with not too much effort ...about 18 months ago serena was making good money, did she say heh I want to make more money or did she say she wants to be no1 ,her whole focus was on being the best . I've watched venus play since she first appeared on the circuit she gives the same effort for tier I ,tierII ,tIerIII or GS she actually plays less tierI than almost any top player her favourite tournaments are American Tier II where the draws are tougher than many tier I and yet the pay off is distinctly less (go do some research and came back and tell us what the cut off in ranking is for the pilot pen). If there are any 2 players who play for the sake of being the best irrespective of the payday its the williams sisters.

anabel
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:02 PM
LOVE that answer Andre!!

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:03 PM
Andre is right on. Joking about "only" earning over $650,000 is immature at best. She also basically said she only plays in Australia to have a chance at the Grand Slam.

Think the Aussies will remember this?

I think some of you read way too much into an off hand comment.

harloo
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:07 PM
how is this dissing serena? He's talking about himself not her.

cybelle, I feel as if it was an indirect diss. Andre was clever, because instead of outright dissing Serena he chose to use himself to exemplify his disapproval of her comment.

Futhermore, this is not the first time Andre has had an issue with other players discussing money. LOL. I guess Andre is the official tour monitor on what everyone says about getting paid. :D

Cariaoke
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:07 PM
That wasn't a diss from Andre... he applied Serena's comment to his life.

When you're young, with few responsibilities (i.e. no kids), getting phat checks and silverware are cool! Serena loves how she earns her money and it's legal to boot! Andre obviously has more things to worry about because he's older.

They both aren't just out there playing for the money but for history. And they both have their own charities they work for. They're both good people. That's what matters. :)

harloo
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:10 PM
Think the Aussies will remember this?

Oh, the Aussies don't care either way. They will continue to boo Serena especially when she plays one of their own, or the girlfriend of one of their own. :D LMAO

MarcusRock
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:12 PM
what Andre said about this was just a pretty normal comment. I think he's right. and maybe Serena was joking, but how do you know the reporter presented her comment to him as a joke?Are we the only 2 people who actually had this come to mind? People are so quick to crucify the players with NO idea of what role the usually manipulative press played. Players themselves need to watch how they answer things that were "heard" by the press elsewhere.

treufreund
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:14 PM
SERENA, once again, open mouth and insert foot! :rolleyes: This is worse than the "of course we don't want the war, we want to make clothes" and "I was 9000 notches below my normal level" crap.

:mad:

Kart
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:14 PM
It's hardly an insult. Agassi was talking about himself. You can only read into it what you like and anyway there's no real context provided.

As for Serena, I think what she said was funny. She obviously meant it as a joke.

BigTennisFan
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:17 PM
But who exactly is andre to talk ...people seem to forget this is the guy who at serena current age thought image was everything ...he chased every endorsement he could get made alot more money than tennis players with far better results ...everyone respect what andre has achieved today, but they seem to forget he was the original mister shallow ,talented but lazy ,money is everything guy when younger .


This sums it up. It seems that everyone has short memories when it's convenient.

Lien
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:19 PM
I think tennis players are paid enough. I don't think they should have the right to complain (I don't want to bash Serena actually, she could have said it as a joke). There are a lot of other sports were the athletes aren't paid that good and still have to work after their career in order to get a bit of money when there old.

Helen Lawson
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:21 PM
Helen Lawson thats a bunch of crap, how exactly do Venus and serena play for the love of money and the other players not ..They are the players that play the least no of tournaments when they could merely show up collect the under the table appearence fee's lose first round and go home . Venus was rich as soon as she struck her first tennis ball so why not go the kournikova route rake in the dough with not too much effort ...about 18 months ago serena was making good money, did she say heh I want to make more money or did she say she wants to be no1 ,her whole focus was on being the best . I've watched venus play since she first appeared on the circuit she gives the same effort for tier I ,tierII ,tIerIII or GS she actually plays less tierI than almost any top player her favourite tournaments are American Tier II where the draws are tougher than many tier I and yet the pay off is distinctly less (go do some research and came back and tell us what the cut off in ranking is for the pilot pen). If there are any 2 players who play for the sake of being the best irrespective of the payday its the williams sisters.

Who says the other players do not play for love of money? Certainly not me. Unlike someone like Dokic, they have figured playing a smaller number of tournaments and doing well at the ones you do play means more money than playing every week. Just look at their prize money. Getting 8-figure endorsement deals requires winning slams (with the exception of Anna perhaps) and outdoes a lifetime of appearance fees they might get. Playing for money does not preclude giving it your best at a tournament or enjoying winning the "big ones" but they have made clear money is a big factor for them. I do not believe they are alone on the tour in this aspect. My point is, at least they are honest about it.

BigTennisFan
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:23 PM
It's funny how quick people are to say that someone else makes too much money. How many of you posting here think that you make too much money?

MarcusRock
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:25 PM
It's funny how quick people are to say that someone else makes too much money. How many of you posting here think that you make too much money?*raises hand*




LOL

Helen Lawson
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:28 PM
I admit my $50,000 for two weeks and four scenes was a little greedy. Even I felt bad, but not bad enough to stop me from blowing a lot of it on fur coats, diamonds, and an addition to a farmhouse I then owned in Georgia. The part had to be recast at the last minute and they really wanted me and they were up against a wall, so I put the screws to them. It worked.

ToeTag
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:29 PM
I think ole Serena likes to stir things up!...Serena knows how stupid the media is :rolleyes: She likes to shit disturb,and stand back and watch those media monkeys react to it.LOL..God bless her for that.

eshell
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:30 PM
What I hate about reading these articles is that I cannot tell Serena's tone. She may have been joking all along. Or she may have been using this opportunity to encourage the Aussie Open to offer more prize money.

It is easy for millionaires to say that roughly $300,000 is too little to quibble over BUT show me the money!

She can make much more by playing the US Open and Wimbledon.

So, until we become reporters and can ask Serena her intentions for making this comment, I choose not to judge.

Andre has a right to speak about himself and was very tactful.

Sanneriet
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:31 PM
In the money: Defending French Open champion Serena Williams.


Serena slams slim pickings at Aussie Open
By LEO SCHLINK
03jun03

WORLD No. 1 Serena Williams reckons the Australian Open is chickenfeed when it comes to boosting a bank account that already bulges like her biceps.

She took home $1.128 million for beating sister Venus in this year's Australian Open final.
But the multi-millionaire binge-shopper gets much more excited about the US Open because the bucks are bigger. Asked how much of a motivating force money is to her, the reigning Australian, French, Wimbledon and US Open champion said: "When I first began it was a larger factor than it is now.

"I'm always motivated at the US Open because they always pay a lot. I mean, this year I think it will probably be $1.45 million. Who wouldn't want to win that? But it's tough for tournaments like Australia. I definitely play to win the grand slam (trophy) when I go there."

Men's world No. 1 Andre Agassi, who won the same amount as Williams at this year's Australian Open, was taken aback by her comments.

"If you're asking me what I think of the prizemoney in Australia, my prayer is that I never get to the point in life where I think hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't a lot of money," he said.

Tennis powerbrokers are due to meet this week to discuss player demands for increased prizemoney.

The Australian Open has routinely offered more money each year and, while still lagging behind the French Open, Wimbledon and the US Open, it also offers the best facilities.

Tennis Australia increased its prizemoney by 10 per cent this season and continues to slowly close the gap on its three grand slam partners. The tournament offers the same number of rankings points as the other grand slams.

Williams has already won $17.3 million in prizemoney and is already guaranteed of adding at least a further $191,051 by reaching the French Open quarters.

Incentives for winning majors and ranking bonuses would have the American boasting career earnings of more than $70 million.

Agassi has earned more than $38 million on court over his career and gives millions to charity each year.



This is from the Herald Sun (Aussie paper). I just think she has made things unnecessarily sticky for herself.

Dawn Marie
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:40 PM
I fail to see any problems. Serena was being facitious and Andre expressed his opionion with an obvious smile on his face.

"Serena and Venus have never made it a secret that money is the primary, if not, sole, reason they play tennis. While it may not be totally admirable, they are at least honest".

__________________

Helena Lawson, you're holding V@S to a different standard by your comments regarding them, tennis and money. You berated them for doing what the entire tennis playing community on the pro tour does and has done since the begginning of the open era. LMAO

They want to win first and they love the game. It's not like they can't retire now from endorsments alone.

You need to take that comment to the Anna Kournikova forum. NEXT!

And what is wrong with women wanting to get paid and stating just that? If a man stated that it would be okay.

GET PAID and keep on keepin on

harloo
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:44 PM
LOL. You know the Aussies would be all over her saying this. I mean everytime Serena says something it seems like a whole country stops and takes notice. LOL

Anyways, what's so sticky about her comments? Everytime Serena says anything it is taken out of context. But my take is she does not care. Both her and Venus has been dealing with hostile tennis crowds for a while now, so the booing and jeering won't work.

Serena will say more than Venus. As a matter of fact she is very forthcoming and honest about how she feels, and maybe that's too much for some people with low self esteem to deal with. But that's Serena for you, so either take it or leave it.

:D ;)

Cybelle Darkholme
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:53 PM
cybelle, I feel as if it was an indirect diss. Andre was clever, because instead of outright dissing Serena he chose to use himself to exemplify his disapproval of her comment.

Futhermore, this is not the first time Andre has had an issue with other players discussing money. LOL. I guess Andre is the official tour monitor on what everyone says about getting paid. :D


I just think people are reading way too much into an offhand comment. I am sure money is not her top priority in her life otherwise she would be endorsing everying like andre did when he was younger and playing every tournament she could. Its just ridiculous because the facts don't match the words of what she said. She was proably just having fun and probably forgot what she said right she said it and moved on.

Dawn Marie
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:57 PM
When Serena talks EVERYBODY listens.

They fall over themselves with amazement and wonderment. Serena is like "Svengali", she controls the media and haters. they are under her control and can do nothing about it.:)

starr
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:33 PM
Agassi has done an admirable thing by funding a school for at-risk children. That will make a bigger difference in their lives than his appearing at a tennis camp once or twice a year. I'm not a fan, but I think his choice of a charity, and the way he's gone about making the dream come true is very good.

Dirty Sanchez
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:36 PM
I don't see any problem with what either player has said.

Serena just joked, and Andre just said he hopes he never gets to the point when he thinks hundreds and thousands of dollars isn't enough.

Nothing wrong, The case Is Closed! :)

Dawn Marie
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:40 PM
What does Agassi making an appearance and then also funding for schools have to do with Venus and Serena and charities? Starr you need to do your homework and some serious research on what Venus and Serena do for people. You appear ignorant.

Dawn Marie
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:40 PM
What does Agassi making an appearance and then also funding for schools have to do with Venus and Serena and charities? Starr you need to do your homework and some serious research on what Venus and Serena do for people. You appear ignorant.

Dawn Marie
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:41 PM
What does Agassi making an appearance and then also funding for schools have to do with Venus and Serena and charities? Starr you need to do your homework and some serious research on what Venus and Serena do for people. You appear ignorant.

BigTennisFan
Jun 2nd, 2003, 08:24 PM
Hi Dawn. What's up with the triple posts? Trying to catch up with Eggy huh? ;)

JonBcn
Jun 2nd, 2003, 08:52 PM
Why do you all have your knickers in a twist about nothing?

I was IN that press conference. Serena was joking; we all laughed. You can bet an Australian Open winners prize money cheque that it was relayed to Andre something like this: "Serena said three quarters of a million dollars is peanuts, what do you think about that?"

Its what the more dubious-natured journalists do to get good quotes (its not the easiest thing to get professional sportspeople to say interesting things).

Chill.

Rollo
Jun 2nd, 2003, 09:22 PM
LOL@Jon. Some of those knickers are bunched rather tightly :p
Sounds like much ado about nothing

Greenout
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:02 AM
One older millionaire disses a new millionaire?
lol. Andre has too much money to the point where
it doesn't mean anything to him. Duh. I don't see
anything wrong in what Serena said. She can still see
the prize money for what it's worth- a hella lot of $$$.
What's wrong with that? Serena wasn't born rich-
she's still amazed with what tennis has brought her.

Andre plays for pride now; he
just has more money than he can spend. Remember
this is the man who owns a HUMMER. That KIA ad
where he drives around the desert is such bul*sh*t.
Agassi does not drive around in a car that
middle class families can afford.

Sam L
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:25 AM
how is this dissing serena? He's talking about himself not her.
You're right Cybelle, he wasn't. It's just that some fans of hers who live vicariously through her probably saw it as a DISS to her (and thus them). lol

Philbo
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:26 AM
LOL @ Williams fans defending Serena...

Were you the same fans who jumped on the Tee Rexx bandwagon dissing Evie Dominikovic for having the audacity to point out that she was glad she drew Venus, not Serena??

Are you the ones now saying too big a deal is being made out of Serena's comments???

Well people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones......

So pathetic....

Sam L
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:30 AM
LOL. You know the Aussies would be all over her saying this. I mean everytime Serena says something it seems like a whole country stops and takes notice. LOL


LOL for Aussie tennis fans are us, "Controversies" such as these are actually what we need. Contrary to what you might think most people here don't really give a hoot about tennis, let alone tennis stars (unless if they're ours). So this kind of publicity is much needed. It made the morning news. yay! :kiss:

~ The Leopard ~
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:32 AM
It's all no big deal. I didn't think Serena's comment was especially offensive. However, FWIW, what Andre said was exactly right.

F-R-E-A-K
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:37 AM
They all want more oney but dont want to play more tennis or work harder to get more... Serena SHUT UP!

the cat
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:47 AM
Well said Cariosity!

Agassi has a thoughtful take on money. And he makes more money than any tennis player ever has.

OMG! Cariosity and Dawn Marie are in the same thread. Which means they are not the same person as I suspected they might be! ;)

selesfan
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:52 AM
One older millionaire disses a new millionaire?
lol. Andre has too much money to the point where
it doesn't mean anything to him. Duh. I don't see
anything wrong in what Serena said. She can still see
the prize money for what it's worth- a hella lot of $$$.
What's wrong with that? Serena wasn't born rich-
she's still amazed with what tennis has brought her.

Andre plays for pride now; he
just has more money than he can spend. Remember
this is the man who owns a HUMMER. That KIA ad
were he drives around the desert is such bul*sh*t.
Agassi does not drive around in a car that
middle class families can afford.

True and he flies to all his tournaments on his very own private jet, of course he doesn't care about money. There was nothing wrong with what Serena said.

Midnite Surfer
Jun 3rd, 2003, 01:53 AM
All the top players make most of their money in endorsements. The money from slams is great but it's sort of a joke if you're making ten million a year from sponsers. Also, andre used to have one of the most extravagant lifestyles on the tour when he was younger. A personal jet, surrounded by celebrity friends, an ad campaign that stated "image is everything" not to mention that he attaches his name to anything including razors, cameras and soda pop. I think Andre loves money just as much as the next multi-millionaire.

Flatstat
Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:07 AM
Andre Agassi should be shot and dismembered for saying just awful awful stuff about Serena :rolleyes:

Some people are really so desperate to portray there favorites as Victims they will clutch at anything. :eek:

Berlin_Calling
Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:19 AM
Don't kno why some of you people are and dissing Andre cause he wasn't even "dissing" Serena. He's talking about himself and how he values each dollar he has and you people are just being rude taking shots at his values. :rolleyes:

PhoenixStorm
Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:24 AM
LOL @ Williams fans defending Serena...

Were you the same fans who jumped on the Tee Rexx bandwagon dissing Evie Dominikovic for having the audacity to point out that she was glad she drew Venus, not Serena??

Are you the ones now saying too big a deal is being made out of Serena's comments???

Well people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones......

So pathetic....

no i didnt do that so dont generalize! sheesh it just makes you look ridiculous! who cares what agassi said? I dont. Who cares if serena only plays for money? I dont. Im sure a whole lot of people in the world only do what they do FOR THE MONEY. Hell didn't their father start them playing tennis because he saw natasha get 38, 000 dollar check? That should sum everything up for you right there. You should have known ten years ago that she played for money. Move on this is old news.

Midnite Surfer
Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:26 AM
Actually, Andre is my fave on the men's side, but I haven't heard Venus and Serena comment on other player's choices or statements while it seems others always prattle on and on about the Williams sisters. I think it's tacky and completely lacking in class. Stick to your own life and keep quiet about others.

Live and let live.

Berlin_Calling
Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:31 AM
Actually, Andre is my fave on the men's side, but I haven't heard Venus and Serena comment on other player's choices or statements while it seems others always prattle on and on about the Williams sisters. I think it's tacky and completely lacking in class. Stick to your own life and keep quiet about others.

Live and let live.

I'm sure that most players don't care about anyone else but themselves. It's not like Andre was talking about Serena because he brought up the topic. It's the media who asks these players about their opinions on what someone else said or did. BTW, Venus and Serena arent the only players out there that dont comment on someone else, most players do mind their own business you kno. :rolleyes:

Midnite Surfer
Jun 3rd, 2003, 02:36 AM
I know, but when Venus is asked about someone else's comment, she says something like, "I wouldn't know" or, "you'll have to ask him or her". They don't really shoot their mouthes off because they are smart enough to know that reporters bait the players by taking things out of context or using half quotes etc. Why take the bait unless you find your own opinion to be so valuable that any chance to get your name next to a quote must be taken.

o0O0o
Jun 3rd, 2003, 03:22 AM
Please Serena, stop speaking, for the love of God. You're vocabulary is hideous, you mispronounce everything, you stumble over your words awkwardly and slowly, and what's worse, your comments are the most arrogant and immature I've ever heard in tennis. Unlike other arrogant champions, your comments aren't even funny or witty. Just pathetic.

I agree with Aggassi 110%.

Jericho
Jun 3rd, 2003, 04:17 AM
Please Serena, stop speaking, for the love of God. You're vocabulary is hideous, you mispronounce everything, you stumble over your words awkwardly and slowly, and what's worse, your comments are the most arrogant and immature I've ever heard in tennis. Unlike other arrogant champions, your comments aren't even funny or witty. Just pathetic.

I agree with Aggassi 110%.

i AGREE 100%, oops i thought you were referring to hingis :o

o0O0o
Jun 3rd, 2003, 04:22 AM
On the contrary, Hingis was extremely intelligent in her press conferences. Why did the press flock to her after matches? Why did Wertheim list her as having the best press conferences of any female? Because she spoke her mind with her tounge in her cheek, both shocking and amusing. Serena is neither shocking nor amusing, just stupid.

skanky~skanketta
Jun 3rd, 2003, 04:48 AM
and i'm sure serena was joking. at least i hope so!i mean, come on!i think she's more motivated to win more grand slams than win more money.

Jeff
Jun 3rd, 2003, 04:49 AM
Serena can be money hungry all she wants. Her talent, personality, looks and confidence has gotten her to where she is today. Many people diss people, like Serena, for having such success.

Serena deserves to be making the money she does, and she knows that there will be a time when it will end "tennis wise at least," so why not earn the jackpot at the slams while she can...

And for Agassi to even try to say that money isn't important to him....do people actually believe that?!? Andre is my favorite male player, but who buys a house in San Francisco for $20 million, and doesn't even call it their regular home. All tennis players want the money...they deserve it too...they are top athletes!

Tarsius
Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:11 AM
When the hell did Agassi say that money wasn't important? He just said that he thought money in the six figure range was still quite large and therefore significantly valuable. You guys are blowing this comment not only way out proportion, but out of context as well.

Lately, it seems anything any other tennis player says about Serena is a diss. Why is that?

1jackson2001
Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:14 AM
I see nothing wrong in what both players have said.

persond
Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:44 AM
On the contrary, Hingis was extremely intelligent in her press conferences. Why did the press flock to her after matches? Why did Wertheim list her as having the best press conferences of any female? Because she spoke her mind with her tounge in her cheek, both shocking and amusing. Serena is neither shocking nor amusing, just stupid.


Hingis' "tongue may have been in cheek", but, your's is firmly up "Hingis' ass"...!!!

You, little o's have gotten so "pathetic", it's not even funny anymore...!!! When are you going to "give it up"...???

theultimateone
Jun 3rd, 2003, 05:57 AM
It is my hope that Serena meant every word she said. Serena works damn hard for every dime she makes, and with all the bullshit she and Venus have to put up with, I don't blame her one bit. The money would be the motivating factor for me. It is clear in Serena's case that the recognition of being the BEST is also her greatest motivator.

This discussion reminds me of the incident with the Wimbledon organization and Richard Williams. It was considered unthinkable that Richard Williams would ask for thousands of dollars for his services to train future tennis stars in that country. He was called "greedy", etc., etc. However, I don't recall anyone asking a "white" guy to train someone for nothing. It seems that its okay for whites to worship money left and right, and believe me they do. (Lie, cheat, and steal for every dollar). Do anything for a buck, however, a "black" guy is suppose to work for free. Some of you may not want to admit this truth, but the fact is this mentality is out there.

Tennis whores like Hornikova, Hingis, etc., etc. will do anything for a dollar, yet Serena Williams works hard to make the money she does and somehow this is a crime.

Which tennis players are playing 25-30 tournaments a year to grab every dollar they can?

When Agassi starts returning his paychecks to the ATP, I will take seriously his comments. Otherwise, they mean nothing.

Tarsius
Jun 3rd, 2003, 06:02 AM
When Agassi starts returning his paychecks to the ATP, I will take seriously his comments. Otherwise, they mean nothing.
Ahem... again I'll ask: Where in that article did Agassi say that money was not important? Im sure you guys are very devoted Serena fans... but still does that mean you have to sacrifice your ability to read just to be one?

BasicTennis
Jun 3rd, 2003, 06:23 AM
this simply a bullshit discussion.:o

Jeff
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:13 AM
When the hell did Agassi say that money wasn't important? He just said that he thought money in the six figure range was still quite large and therefore significantly valuable. You guys are blowing this comment not only way out proportion, but out of context as well.

Lately, it seems anything any other tennis player says about Serena is a diss. Why is that?

Tarsius,

My point isn't that he doesn't think money is important, but that he's saying that winning the tournaments with the biggest prize money isn't important. That Serena puts too much emphasis on prize money at the U.S. Open.

My comment was that while the ranking points are imporant, the incentive value of the U.S. Open for having the highest prize money is not just unique to Serena Williams. And I'm not attacking Agassi...I like Agassi...I'm just saying that Serena, like Agassi, plays for the love of the game, but incentive value is inevitable for all tennis players. That's entertainment business.

stephano hair
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:17 AM
serena is such a bitch! australia rocks and we dont want u to play there! hence, when u and venus made it to the final, no1 applauded u! go play in the men's competition, which suits u, if u aint satisfied with women's tennis tournaments!

BasicTennis
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:19 AM
pffff...stingy Australia.:D

Experimentee
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:23 AM
Serena was obviously joking about that. Andre misunderstood and thought she was serious. They both know they are lucky to be getting this much money just for playing tennis.

Scorch
Jun 3rd, 2003, 08:40 AM
To echo the thoughts of King L and Markus Rock I would just like to remind people that these are media engineered quotes from both players, taken out of context and placed in isolation to look as controversial as possible. Although I must say that even in isolation they do not seem very controversial to me and if this sorry ass story is being broadcast or printed then it speaks volumes with regards to the quality of tennis related reporting.

Tarsius
Jun 3rd, 2003, 09:00 AM
@Jeff
Tarsius,

My point isn't that he doesn't think money is important, but that he's saying that winning the tournaments with the biggest prize money isn't important. That Serena puts too much emphasis on prize money at the U.S. Open.[/b]

Ummm, NO. You said:

And for Agassi to even try to say that money isn't important to him....do people actually believe that?!?

Agassi said no such thing. That's MY point. There is nothing in Agassi's statement at all that relates to the US Open or anything about Pro Athletes getting money. All he said was he thinks a hundred grand is a lot of money.

Now you guys can stretch that all you want and relate it to how he probably meant that Serena is probably thinking of the opposite(which is the obvious assumption of the rabid ones here for reasons I can't fathom)... but if you read that comment, there was nothing of the sort.

Again I will ask : What part of ``My prayer is that I never get to a point in life where I think hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't a lot of money.'' directly translates to "I think Serena is greedy" or some other offensive "diss"?

No assumptions please. :)

Bright Red
Jun 3rd, 2003, 11:11 AM
I like Agassi, but he was wrong to diss Serena like that. There would be nothing wrong with her thinking $650K isn't a lot of money. It's all relative. What exactly is the amount that Agassi thinks isn't a lot of money? $10K, $1K?? He could never go low enough to not be a hypocrite by his own standard since there'll always be someone who's flat broke.

Midnite Surfer
Jun 4th, 2003, 05:10 AM
On the contrary, Hingis was extremely intelligent in her press conferences. Why did the press flock to her after matches? Why did Wertheim list her as having the best press conferences of any female? Because she spoke her mind with her tounge in her cheek, both shocking and amusing. Serena is neither shocking nor amusing, just stupid.

Hingis's comments were not tongue in cheek. That's just more revisionist history from a certified moron. Hingis's press conferences were entertaining because she was rude and was sure to massacre the english language. Her crude english was brutal but extremely quotable. Calling Mauresmo a man was not tongue in cheek, it was just stupid.