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GogoGirl
May 29th, 2003, 10:26 PM
Interesting.




http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=sportsNews&storyID=2845347


Pardon My French, Says Madame Davenport
Thu May 29, 2003 09:37 AM ET


By Francois Thomazeau

PARIS (Reuters) - At 27, newly married and trying to get used to French clay after two seasons shunning Roland Garros, Lindsay Davenport is facing an identity crisis.

The American is more or less at home on Parisian red dust, the surface being the nearest thing to the sand of the Hawaiian beach on which she got married last month.

But the sixth seed still needs to polish her French a little.

Back in the only grand slam tournament she has yet to win, Davenport had to face the persistent gap of misunderstanding between the French and the Americans.

After beating Uzbek Iroda Tulyaganova, 7-5, 6-1, she went to the chair umpire with a little query.

"I was just curious, they've been calling me a few different names here. It was a question of what the appropriate title for myself is," she said.

"They've said madame, they've said mademoiselle. I was asking her, I just didn't know. She was very nice about it."

Davenport married John Leach a month ago but still insists on being called Davenport, hence the misunderstanding.

CULTURAL GAP

So, the big question -- should it be madame Or mademoiselle from now on?

"I don't care. Probably because I'm not with my married name, mademoiselle. I don't know if that matters or whatever," she said.

What matters most for the tall American is to improve on her best performance in Paris, reaching the semi-finals in 1999.

Even though she insists she has improved a lot on the red stuff, the 1998 U.S. Open champion, 1999 Wimbledon champion and 2000 Australian Open champion admitted claycourt tennis was another cultural oddity she would always struggle to understand.

"You know, as far as being a true claycourt mover, there's no way I'm ever going to be able to do it.

"I mean, I've tried, believe me. But I think there's no question I'm better than I was the last time I was here in 2000, and before that," she said.

Unfortunately for Davenport, Monsieur Leach would probably not be able to attend the final should Madame make it that far.

"He started working, works really, really long hours, and really hard. So I think right now there's no question he won't be able to go anywhere this year."

AjdeNate!
May 29th, 2003, 11:09 PM
Allez Madame, er Mademoiselle, er jeune fille Davenport!! ;)

auntie janie
May 29th, 2003, 11:35 PM
:)

Iconoclast
May 29th, 2003, 11:54 PM
No one has cleared up the confusion. Can she be Madame Davenport when she still goes by her maiden name, or should she be Mademoiselle?

I respect her choice. Madame Leach doesn't sound right, and Davenport is a nice last name.

Martian Willow
May 29th, 2003, 11:59 PM
Can she be Madame Davenport when she still goes by her maiden name,

Yes. Why not? :confused: She's married, and her surname is Davenport.

Iconoclast
May 30th, 2003, 12:14 AM
Yes. Why not? :confused: She's married, and her surname is Davenport.
Well, judging by the article, Lindsay herself seems to think that mademoiselle is still the appropriate title:

Probably because I'm not with my married name, mademoiselle. I don't know if that matters or whatever," she said.

Cariaoke
May 30th, 2003, 12:38 AM
Yeah, most people think saying Madame Davenport is the equivalent of saying Mrs. Davenport. I mean, that wouldn't sound right. Ms. Davenport is fine. :)

Lisbeth
May 30th, 2003, 12:40 AM
Very interesting. I believe in English that the only formally correct title for this situation is "Ms" (though if course people should and do call themselves whatever they feel most comfortable with). I guess there's no equivalent in French?

Cariaoke
May 30th, 2003, 12:46 AM
you are correct, kimmyfan. :)

Davenport is not single so she can't be a Miss and she's not changing her name so she can't be a Mrs. therefore she's a Ms. I'm a Ms. too and I'm not married. ;)

Lisbeth
May 30th, 2003, 01:09 AM
I was a Ms (Ms Same Name, in fact) before and after I got married - much easier for me but seems to confuse some people dreadfully for some reason!

Cariaoke
May 30th, 2003, 01:10 AM
almost every woman I know has Ms in front of their names. whenever I see Mrs or Miss, I think this woman is so old-fashioned.

WtaTour4Ever
May 30th, 2003, 01:30 AM
I kinda liked being Miss when I was younger, I felt ...I can't explain it, but I thought it was cool.

There is no french equivalent of Ms.?