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Venus Forever
May 29th, 2003, 05:42 PM
Women to get ranking points for 2004 Olympics


May 29, 2003
PARIS (AP) -- Women will receive rankings points for their Olympic results for the first time in 2004, a change designed to encourage participation.

The men's tour began awarding rankings points for the Olympics in 2000.

The change for women was announced Thursday at the French Open by the International Tennis Federation.

``This agreement will make the event even more meaningful to our players,'' WTA Tour chairman Larry Scott said.

ATP and WTA Tour rankings will be used to determine the top 48 automatic qualifiers in the 64-player draws for men's and women's singles. Each nation is eligible for four entries into each draw.

WtaTour4Ever
May 29th, 2003, 05:51 PM
Any word on the # of points...or what winning would be comparable to.....

Anyone know what the men get for winning the Olympics?

ChrisGermany
May 29th, 2003, 06:41 PM
4 entries in each draw ?

Wasn´t it last time that ech country could only send 3 players f.e. into a women´s singles draw !

TheBoiledEgg
May 29th, 2003, 06:43 PM
Men got 80 Race pts or 400 ESP pts
a bit too much i say

King Lindsay
May 29th, 2003, 06:45 PM
bad idea. This will penalize people like Jennifer Capriati who might not to get to play even though she's #7 in the world.

lizchris
May 29th, 2003, 06:45 PM
I wonder if Venus will play since she is the defending Gold Medalist?

BigB08822
May 29th, 2003, 06:46 PM
I think the points should be a lot for the Olympics, this is the Olympics for goodness sake! I think the points should be worth just a bit below what the slams are worth.

BigB08822
May 29th, 2003, 06:46 PM
How will this penalize Jennifer? She can just pick up other tournaments if she wants those points.

Martian Willow
May 29th, 2003, 06:53 PM
bad idea. This will penalize people like Jennifer Capriati who might not to get to play even though she's #7 in the world.

Totally agree. How can they give ranking points for it if rankings aren't used to decide the entry?

JPV
May 29th, 2003, 06:54 PM
Any word on the # of points...or what winning would be comparable to.....

Anyone know what the men get for winning the Olympics?
fwiw, then men used to get:

WIN: 400
FINAL: 280
SF: 155 (THIRD PLACE WIN = 205)
QF: 100
3RD: 50
2RD: 25
1ST: 5

sorry boiledegg, was too late ;)

King Lindsay
May 29th, 2003, 06:54 PM
How will this penalize Jennifer? She can just pick up other tournaments if she wants those points.

just because it'll be a big point tournament she may not even get to enter despite the fact that she'll be higher ranked than 90% of the players entered.

Cariaoke
May 29th, 2003, 06:57 PM
well they count olympic gold medals as TITLES so I think they should give out ranking points as well. don't they give out ranking points for the tour champs when you have to sort of qualify to make the elite 16 err 8? it's really the same thing. I think it's ridiculous that you're paid for fed cup but you're not paid for representing your country in the olympics but they count that as a title.

MarcusRock
May 29th, 2003, 06:59 PM
just because it'll be a big point tournament she may not even get to enter despite the fact that she'll be higher ranked than 90% of the players entered.
Yeah but look at it this way: The players that DO play can't defend those points the following year with an Olympics occuring every 4 years.

AjdeNate!
May 29th, 2003, 07:01 PM
I am glad for this. It should count, as it's a big event, and the men get ranking points. If women want equal $, they should take steps to do everything equal. RIght?

MLF
May 29th, 2003, 07:08 PM
The Olympics are a big deal but I don't think there should be ranking points for it. This is because it is essentially a closed event only open to a select few players selected by their country. Regular tournaments are open to all to enter if they wish so they can pick up or lose valuable ranking points at their own selection. With the Olympics some players are going to fall behind other competitors due to matters outside their own control.

JPV
May 29th, 2003, 09:56 PM
bad idea. This will penalize people like Jennifer Capriati who might not to get to play even though she's #7 in the world.
Someone from Daily Tennis said exceptions would be made by ITF/WTA for top players...

BigB08822
May 29th, 2003, 11:41 PM
MarcusRocks made a great point, they can't defend those points the next year.

JPV
May 30th, 2003, 12:34 AM
MarcusRocks made a great point, they can't defend those points the next year.
they can, but not at this tournament. i guess some tournaments changed schedule last time in the women's draw... they could do that again.

Venus Forever
May 30th, 2003, 01:42 AM
What would the points drop off the same week next year??

Julian
May 30th, 2003, 02:07 AM
DAMN well that's just great!! Arantxa played 4 Olympics winning 4 medals and then they finally decide to award the players with points!?? Well isn't that ironic...:rolleyes: :D

JPV
May 30th, 2003, 07:36 AM
What would the points drop off the same week next year??
off course, they won't stick around the player for four years.

AKTW
May 30th, 2003, 09:27 AM
If Alyona was awarded points in 2000...... :rolleyes:

Gowza
May 30th, 2003, 09:35 AM
if they are going to give ranking points then they should do the entries based on a plyaers rank and each country shoould not be limited in how many players can compete. i agree with the capriati comments. they shouldn't exclude players for reasons they can't control and then award players for participating.

JPV
May 30th, 2003, 09:43 AM
1)if they are going to give ranking points then they should do the entries based on a plyaers rank and each country shoould not be limited in how many players can compete.
2) i agree with the capriati comments. they shouldn't exclude players for reasons they can't control and then award players for participating.
1) yes they should be limited. Remember, this is an Olympic event, and how odd it may seem to most of you, participation is still more important than winning... So they should have a field from a lot of counties... Just as in RG, some french are picked above other (good) players, the Olympic Games should be able to do the same...
2) look at what i've written in a previous post. Seems like the press release has been incomplete: top players would get in no matter where they come from.

Brian Stewart
May 30th, 2003, 11:16 AM
I was never a fan of this idea. But if they're going to do it, and their goal is to boost the profile of Olympic tennis, then there should be a proviso that anyone ranked in the top XX that wants to play, can. Players shouldn't be penalized because their country has a lot of players in, say, the top 50.

Perhaps they should allow everyone in the top 50 who wants to play, and then fill in the rest with wild cards, to include more countries. If necessary, they could add a preliminary/qualifying round, or expand the draw slightly (to about 72 players or so, with most getting byes, so the others would still be in the "main" draw).