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mishar
May 27th, 2003, 04:16 PM
He had a great career, but it seems like every tournament there's a ceremony and so on. I don't remember such year-long hoopla for anyone else.

Julian
May 27th, 2003, 04:24 PM
Me as well. I think it's because he announced his retirement a year before he stopped playing which was a good idea...unlike Steffi and Arantxa who announced retirement so suddenly...it would have been great to see Arantxa being honored here in Paris. :( But :sad for Michael..

mishar
May 27th, 2003, 04:28 PM
I'm sad for him too, but a lot of champions have retired and I don't remember so many ceremonies, I know of at least four so far: Memphis, Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, paris

treufreund
May 27th, 2003, 04:33 PM
No, it is not excessive at all. Ceremonies were done for NOVOTNA as well who also only won one GS. As well ASV. Chang was number 2 for SEVEN YEARS and is very admired at Roland Garros. To let him walk off the court without honoring him would have been classless. EMOTION and APPRECIATION is a BIG PART of tennis. NOT JUST SERVES and FOREHANDS!!!!!!!!

treufreund
May 27th, 2003, 04:36 PM
The ceremonies being done at different tourneys is LOGICAL considering he is AMERICAN and there are DIFFERENT SPECTATORS at different tourneys. Also he WON ROLAND GARROS so it is only fitting to have a ceremony here especially since is the YOUNGEST CHAMPION ever!

Also very glad that FABRICE won and he was VERY VERY kind and classy. Only fitting that Michael would play his last match against A frenchman that he has known for a long time.

Giuliano
May 27th, 2003, 04:51 PM
Edberg in 96 had a ceremony too.
Pfff another player of my favourite generation has gone :sad:.

Steff_forever
May 27th, 2003, 05:30 PM
Chang deserved this ceremony. It was one of the matches here on Center Court (89 SF vs Lendl, and then his winning in F) that won't be forgotten. Perhaps you have ?!? :rolleyes:

No, the French spectators know what they wil miss ( :sad: ) with these greats stepping back ...

selesfan
May 27th, 2003, 09:51 PM
Martina Navratilova had a whole year of celebrations the year she retired.

Crazy Canuck
May 28th, 2003, 06:28 AM
raquel has no idea what she is talking about! The Mens Tennis forum has nothing but LOVE to offer!

gmt
May 29th, 2003, 04:50 AM
I don't know about the other celebrations, but the one in Paris was the right thing to do...

KindaNice
May 29th, 2003, 12:36 PM
You obviously have no idea what he did when he won the final in 89. He forever cemented himself in the hearts of the French people. I remember watching that tournament and watching both the Lendl and Edberg match...it was probably one of the most memorable, gutsiest matches I have EVER seen. It literally was David vs. Goliath out there. The ceremony was deserved...he has had a great career, and probably one of the most respectful players ever. You don't get many like that...

gmt
May 30th, 2003, 12:43 PM
http://perso.club-internet.fr/ttle/tennis/chinese.gif And after RG'89, the mayor's wife told me that she thought that I looked a bit like Chang :rolleyes: Well - I look like him as much as any of the 2 billion yellow people on this Earth http://perso.club-internet.fr/ttle/tennis/chinlaugh.gif

spartanfan
May 30th, 2003, 03:10 PM
Yea, it's a bit much. It's like one long drawn out pity party. Just quit allready.

arvada
May 30th, 2003, 06:45 PM
Chang for the last six years has done everything to try and draw attention to himself -

but the RG ceremony was deserved.

patricio
May 31st, 2003, 12:24 AM
Its sad because a good player should retire while he/she is still in form. Chang is chanshing hard lately

rhz
May 31st, 2003, 02:17 AM
not at all.. well deserved!

Dawn Marie
May 31st, 2003, 08:57 AM
what the?


Chang loves the game of tennis. He ran miles on the court and worked hard during his years on the tour. He posessed suberb tennis etiquette. He is what tennis is about.

The Farewell Tour is for US the fans. He is giving thanks to the people who liked to watch him play the game.

WELL DESERVED and I think alot of people forget what tennis is about these days.

CHANG=CLASS

Lindsayfan
May 31st, 2003, 09:29 AM
it was well deserved ang gave me a big emotion..i had tears in my eyes!

-Sonic-
May 31st, 2003, 12:11 PM
Oh well at least we won't have to see him again after a year of parties mwah ha ha ha

Greenout
May 31st, 2003, 12:19 PM
I'm tired of it too. Hee. He's won 1 grand
slam and is milking it to the zenith. Enough
already. I hate to tell him; but now that I
live in Asia let me tell you that Chang isn't
as well received nor that beloved as some
Western tv critics, and tv commentators
say. Blah, Blah, Blah, an inspiration for
Asian tennis, blah, blah, a hero in Asia
Blah, blah.

1) My friends who are Asian American never
really liked Chang that much. He came
off as too smug- a smarty pants you might
say.

2) Kimiko Date is the real Asian tennis star
in Asia. Not Michael Chang!!! Ok. Ask
any tennis fan in practically every country
except India- and they will say that
the tennis player that they cheered for
and was inspired by was Kimiko Date.

3) Chang being an Chinese- American did
have some what of a following in Hong
Kong, Singapore, and Taiwan.

4) All that Christian stuff is totally irksome.

See ya Chang. It's over.

lurker
May 31st, 2003, 01:47 PM
My first reaction was... GREAT, we don't have to watch Agassi again. I was really of the mind set that it was enough already. But the Roland Garros send off was so well deserved...I remember when he won Roland Garros, and I DIDN'T follow tennis back then. I remember a person of Chinese ancestry won, and that was an awesome feat, given that no other had done so before him. And then he was the youngest to win on the toughest surface...no one else has come close in 14 years. Then to rehash the WAY he won...and how much he gave to the sport was a nice thing to see. I don't think he's milking it...he's playing a limited tour of some of the tournaments of his greatest triumphs.

But perhapds he should have retired in 2001?

arvada
May 31st, 2003, 06:39 PM
"See ya Chang. Its over." - Greenout

Not only is it over, its BEEN over ever since Chang got trashed by Rafter in the 97 us open semis. Outstanding post Greenout. Couldnt agree more. Chang has always tasted phoney to me too.

maccardel
May 31st, 2003, 07:45 PM
John McEnroe announced that Conchita was retiring this year and if so, why wasn't anything planned for her?

I don't mind the Chang thing but lets face it, he is getting beaten by everyone, I don't think that is how u want to end your career and want to be remembered....it would serve us better if he participated in an exhibition match on opening day or sunday of the grandslam, to get it out of the way and to let him have the day to himself....

It was a waste of the wildcard and a stain on his otherwise good career....he is not retiring in victory but now rather shame....I prefer to see the wild card go to someone who better deserved it....it's not like he was number one and have multiple grandslams ....like Monica or Arantxa or Steffi.....then the wild card would have been valid....I saw the first set and then the second and that was it for me....I wished he was given the damn poster from 88 or 89 cos I couldn't bear to see him getting trashed like that on centre court....it was just pitiful. I like him but now he seems to be getting back at us and taking up the screen time with his many losses....

Now I am questioning his tears- are they for the goodbyes or were they for the remembrance of what a good mover he used to be? He is or rather was good and should leave it alone and make only grand slam appearances on the first sundays.....at least the tourneys will have a way to make the extra cash and try to sell some rights to it......at least this is the only time he gets to say goodbye.....wish him all the best.

Dawn Marie
May 31st, 2003, 10:18 PM
I as a tennis am glad he is doing this farewell tour. I plan on getting his autograpgh in Cincinatti and taking his picture. He likes the Cincy tourney.

polishprodigy
May 31st, 2003, 11:47 PM
I do appreciate what he has done in his career. But I do think and agree that he has "milked" his French Open victory (WHICH HE WON IN 1989, OVER A DECADE AGO!) too much to the point that we are like "ok, thats' enough. Jana had a great story, coming oh so close in grand slams and then finally winning the one she loved oh so much. Martina...well she deserves any celebration, she has great talent. Same with many other players. But Michael ended his career on a terrible drought, I think he was no.2 in the world in like 1998, he won Toronto, I remember and well his tennis for me wasn't that interesting, although I do respect his work ethic and the fact that he could chase all the balls down and did not let his size get to him, and he was no.2 in a sampras-dominated era. That 1989 victory is so long ago, that it is a mere distant memory.

I respect the guy. I am sad that he is retiring. But we have allauded him for his "remarkable" 1989 french open victory at 17 years of age (which truly is remarkable) for oh so long, and I dunno, I'm getting tired of it. The guy had such a downfall after his loss to Rafter and never fully recovered. Santoro is a great player, but not AMAZING, and he beat Chang quite easily scoreline wise (I watched the match and it was close, but mostly every men's match is close and hard fought).

So Kudos to Chang, but your time is done. I wish you the best in your post-retirement era. I hope he plays mixed or doubles in the future as a celebrity kinda thing.

ktwtennis
May 31st, 2003, 11:49 PM
It's really amazing that no one finds the Williams stories they constantly do annoying and excessive...:rolleyes:

maccardel
Jun 1st, 2003, 12:30 AM
It's really amazing that no one finds the Williams stories they constantly do annoying and excessive...:rolleyes:

In all fairness, that wasn't the title of the thread, it's about Chang and his farewell. I think you need to create a separate thread for the williams thing.....