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AjdeNate!
May 22nd, 2003, 01:31 AM
I'm seriously thinking of taking a year off of work to finish my degree at uni, and have found Vesalius College in Brussels. I don't even know if I can afford to study abroad, but I'd really like to at least get info on it. I've found their website and have looked around. That's answered most of my ?s, but does any know what quality this Uni is? I mean, my grades won't even transfer back as I'll just get credit but no grade as far as my final transcript will say. Is it highly regarded or kind of a crap school? Thanks Belgies! :wavey:

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 06:22 AM
I don't know it...are you sure it's a university?

Katrien
May 22nd, 2003, 06:45 AM
Me neither. Can you post a link to their website?

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 06:47 AM
http://www.vub.ac.be/VECO/aveco/index.htm ..if this is the website, then it's a part of the VUB.

then Josh will be able to help you I think :o

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 08:49 AM
I'm seriously thinking of taking a year off of work to finish my degree at uni, and have found Vesalius College in Brussels. I don't even know if I can afford to study abroad, but I'd really like to at least get info on it. I've found their website and have looked around. That's answered most of my ?s, but does any know what quality this Uni is? I mean, my grades won't even transfer back as I'll just get credit but no grade as far as my final transcript will say. Is it highly regarded or kind of a crap school? Thanks Belgies! :wavey:

I can only talk about the quality of the "mother" university (the VUB). It's regarded as a decent university, but there are some subjects that are know for it's lower level. Dunno what you are planning to do?

f.e. if you're considering to do genetics engineering, you'd better go to Gent (www.rug.ac.be), if you're planning to finish international politics, Leuven (www.kuleuven.ac.be) may be better.

But please consider the education level in Belgium is pretty high, i've seen enough people having troubles with our system (especially spaniards, dunno what's your nationality) .

One downside is Gent & Leuven are Dutch-speaking cities, so you won't be able to practise French. The Vesalius College is part of a Flemish university, but it's situated in Brussels, so you'd be able to practise French as much as you'd like.

rand
May 22nd, 2003, 10:35 AM
for mathematics the vub is the best together with ghent though....then antwerp, and leuven is by far weaker....in Louvain they're even better there at least they have Borceux.....

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 10:52 AM
Rubbish Rand! I know quite a few who tried to study in Leuven first, failed, then went to the VUB. Leuven is not weak!

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 10:54 AM
for mathematics the vub is the best together with ghent though....then antwerp, and leuven is by far weaker....in Louvain they're even better there at least they have Borceux.....
just a correction:
Leuven = KULEUVEN (french name Louvain)
Louvain => Louvain-La-Neuve (the french university originally part of Leuven)

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 10:56 AM
Rubbish Rand! I know quite a few who tried to study in Leuven first, failed, then went to the VUB. Leuven is not weak!you're talking about maths? i'll look it up this afternoon (visitatierapport).

The Crow
May 22nd, 2003, 10:59 AM
Hum visitatierapporten :rolleyes: Sorry maar daar staat vooral veel zever in IMHO

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:00 AM
I went to Leuven instead of Gent because what I wanted to study is much better in Leuven (architectural engineering), but I'd never call Gent a weak university like Rand calls Leuven. I think that overall the level in Gent and Leuven is the same.

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:00 AM
Hum visitatierapporten :rolleyes: Sorry maar daar staat vooral veel zever in IMHOder staat verschrikkelijk veel zever in, maar ook veel handige dingen hoor ;)

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:01 AM
I went to Leuven instead of Gent because what I wanted to study is much better in Leuven (architectural engineering), but I'd never call Gent a weak university like Rand calls Leuven. I think that overall the level in Gent and Leuven is the same.
he was only talking about maths, Tine...

Gent & Leuven are comparable, indeed, and VUB is third, but there are getting closer...

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:01 AM
I do think Leuven is better when it comes to services for students.

rand
May 22nd, 2003, 11:03 AM
Rubbish Rand! I know quite a few who tried to study in Leuven first, failed, then went to the VUB. Leuven is not weak!
they're weak in research....the courses are hard (I would even say as hard) in any university(though at the vub they help you more at first to make you understand what mathematics is about....that's the main reason more people fail for example in Leuven, not the level of the classes....) and of course when you tried first in any place it becomes easier to do the same in another one...that's common sense :)

rand
May 22nd, 2003, 11:06 AM
(of course I'm talking only mathematics.....I know for fact that for a lot of sections Leuven is far better than the VUB..... :) )

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:06 AM
I do think Leuven is better when it comes to services for students.
nah, Tine, i'm pretty sure this is wrong. Gent has more cheap rooms for students, we've got slightly more facilities for sport students,...

What we lack is student-movement facilities, but there we are making improvements ("De Brug" (student home) wil move to a 4 million EURO new building (with a great infrastructure). We don't need to pay kot-taxes too ;).

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:08 AM
Thank you for calling me weak!

rand
May 22nd, 2003, 11:09 AM
for cheap rooms the vub beat you all I think...I had a room for 50 euros per month for most of my time.....it was raised to I think 75 or 80 euros in the last year, but still.....

rand
May 22nd, 2003, 11:09 AM
Thank you for calling me weak!
Tine are you a mathematician? No? then I didn't.....for example civil engineering classes in brussels aren't very good (their mathematics is weak, and some of them who graduated feel they weren't trained as good as people from other universities.....)

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:10 AM
for cheap rooms the vub beat you all I think...I had a room for 50 euros per month for most of my time.....it was raised to I think 75 or 80 euros in the last year, but still.....
yep, but did you have a look at those rooms? :p. (ok, gent is also bad, but they are building new ones/rebuilding rooms & everyone has internet & telephone available in their room)

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:11 AM
nah, Tine, i'm pretty sure this is wrong. Gent has more cheap rooms for students, we've got slightly more facilities for sport students,...

What we lack is student-movement facilities, but there we are making improvements ("De Brug" (student home) wil move to a 4 million EURO new building (with a great infrastructure). We don't need to pay kot-taxes too ;).

When I was studying my friends in Ghent payed more than I did and their rooms were crap whereas mine was quite nice.

Sport is better organised in Leuven, internet is ten times better organised. All student rooms in Leuven have cable internet (including the private rooms). You can find everything on the website, Ad Valvas, every year has a newsgroup, you can hand in lots of projects via internet,...

rand
May 22nd, 2003, 11:15 AM
yep, but did you have a look at those rooms? :p. (ok, gent is also bad, but they are building new ones/rebuilding rooms & everyone has internet & telephone available in their room)
not all rooms at the vub are "nieuwelaan" jpv :laugh: those at the schoofslaan are pretty nice you know......and even at nieuwelaan everyone has phone and internet nowadays ;)

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:17 AM
When I was studying my friends in Ghent payed more than I did and their rooms were crap whereas mine was quite nice.

Sport is better organised in Leuven, internet is ten times better organised. All student rooms in Leuven have cable internet. You can find everything on the website, Ad Valvas, every year has a newsgroup, you can hand in lots of projects via internet,...
tine:
- sport is way larger in gent (check out the facilities, my sis was in Leuven, so i know about the Sportkot)
- internet is better in Gent, exept for those night-pc-rooms (which are due to come in Gent next year, afaik). We've got better systems here (arc is improving). And KotNet is way to slow, and it's not usefull (many ports are locked, more than in Gent)... here we share a Telenet connection. More expensive, but way better...
- advalvas is on the internet in almost every faculty.
- no one needs a newsgroup :p (system does exist here, but no one uses it, people use their own systems, and that has become a tradition).
- projects can be handed in via internet here too...

i admit we were lacking behind a long time ago (and f.i. you still have better library's), but we are seriously improving.

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:20 AM
When I was studying my friends in Ghent payed more than I did and their rooms were crap whereas mine was quite nice.
news article from begin of last year:
average KOT prices in Gent: 173 euro/month
.... in Leuven: 193 euro/month

(including water, electricity, ... without internet/tv/...)
(brussels was very expensive, but i don't have the complete article here anymore, just an old mail)

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:23 AM
tine:
- sport is way larger in gent (check out the facilities, my sis was in Leuven, so i know about the Sportkot)
- internet is better in Gent, exept for those night-pc-rooms (which are due to come in Gent next year, afaik). We've got better systems here (arc is improving). And KotNet is way to slow, and it's not usefull (many ports are locked, more than in Gent)... here we share a Telenet connection. More expensive, but way better...
- advalvas is on the internet in almost every faculty.
- no one needs a newsgroup :p (system does exist here, but no one uses it, people use their own systems, and that has become a tradition).
- projects can be handed in via internet here too...

i admit we were lacking behind a long time ago (and f.i. you still have better library's), but we are seriously improving.

None of my friends in Ghent had internet in their rooms. We all have internet and it's more than fast enough! We don't need PC rooms since we all have internet in our own room.

I was looking for an address of someone who worked at the RUG, was unable to find her (though I noticed they finally changed the website in Gent), in Leuven you can anyone right away without a prob. All the forms, enrolling for Uni, using the Uni plotters, it's all done online. Students can rent computers and laptops.
Our student card is also our library card, we can order our books online form the library and they let you know when you can pick it up, etc, etc...

As for sport, for €15/year we can use all sport facitilities, swimming pool, tennis courts, take lessons in all sorts of sports, etc. I don't think it's that cheap in Gent.

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 11:25 AM
tine:
- sport is way larger in gent (check out the facilities, my sis was in Leuven, so i know about the Sportkot)
- internet is better in Gent, exept for those night-pc-rooms (which are due to come in Gent next year, afaik). We've got better systems here (arc is improving). And KotNet is way to slow, and it's not usefull (many ports are locked, more than in Gent)... here we share a Telenet connection. More expensive, but way better...
- advalvas is on the internet in almost every faculty.
- no one needs a newsgroup :p (system does exist here, but no one uses it, people use their own systems, and that has become a tradition).
- projects can be handed in via internet here too...

i admit we were lacking behind a long time ago (and f.i. you still have better library's), but we are seriously improving.

aha now you come on my territory :cool:
- sport is way better organised in Leuven. Just look at tennis in Gent, we don't even have courts :rolleyes:
- internet better in Gent??? you have to be kidding me :eek: Internet is great at the homes, but all other rooms are private and you need to pay extra for telenet or adsl. It's all in in Leuven..way better system.
- advalvas, newsgroups..do you think they live in prehistory in Leuven??????? it's the same there.

and LMAO@arc is improving. It's a bunch of amateurs with a very weak and slow network. The website sucks..and the whole SAP thing is a disaster

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:26 AM
news article from begin of last year:
average KOT prices in Gent: 173 euro/month
.... in Leuven: 193 euro/month

(including water, electricity, ... without internet/tv/...)
(brussels was very expensive, but i don't have the complete article here anymore, just an old mail)

It was different when I started but right now there's a shortage of rooms in Leuven! One student room was torn down and Tobback came up with that stupid law which made it illegal to build new student rooms where there weren't any before.

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:30 AM
Ik kan een ding zeggen, de website van de KUL is schitterend en gebruik ik constant!!

En 't systeem van Toledo dat we nu gebruiken is ook handig. Daarmee kan ik heel gemakkelijk allerlei files ter beschikking stellen van studenten zonder dat ik daar een website voor moet beginnen maken. Ik zet daar announcements op, daar is een forum op, enz. Dat was zeer handig bij de werkjes die ik moest begeleiden. Ze moesten daar een programma voor gebruiken dat af en toe werd aangepast. En als we ze nog wat extra data moesten geven, we zetten da gewoon op Toledo en de studenten hadden het.

Toen ik begon te studeren kwam het internet pas op, dus ik ben niet daarvoor naar Leuven gekomen, maar als ik er eenmaal zat was ik wel superblij met de service.

De RUG is een goeie universiteit, maar op vlak van internet zitten ze achter. Maar ze zijn aan't verbeteren, de website nu is al stukken beter dan een maand geleden (toen ik niet eens een personeelslid kon terugvinden).

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:32 AM
None of my friends in Ghent had internet in their rooms. We all have internet and it's more than fast enough! We don't need PC rooms since we all have internet in our own room.
you are talking about the past, tine.. now all Uni-rooms have internet, and way faster than the KUL (which is seriously lacking speed, read the Veto of a couple of months ago...)
I was looking for an address of someone who worked at the RUG, was unable to find her (though I noticed they finally changed the website in Gent), in Leuven you can anyone right away without a prob. All the forms, enrolling for Uni, using the Uni plotters, it's all done online. Students can rent computers and laptops.
at prices that are unreasonably high... we were thinking to do the same (we had the budget), but it was not usefull... when renting for a year, you can almost buy the pc for the same price...

and the adresses were available for over 6 years, tine ('electronisch telefoonboek')

As for sport, for €15/year we can use all sport facitilities, swimming pool, tennis courts, take lessons in all sorts of sports, etc. I don't think it's that cheap in Gent.
that's indeed cheaper, but afaik, we've got more choice of different sports...

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:39 AM
aha now you come on my territory :cool:
- sport is way better organised in Leuven. Just look at tennis in Gent, we don't even have courts :rolleyes:
- internet better in Gent??? you have to be kidding me :eek: Internet is great at the homes, but all other rooms are private and you need to pay extra for telenet or adsl. It's all in in Leuven..way better system.
- advalvas, newsgroups..do you think they live in prehistory in Leuven??????? it's the same there.

and LMAO@arc is improving. It's a bunch of amateurs with a very weak and slow network. The website sucks..and the whole SAP thing is a disaster
Internet is way better in Gent, Koen... i've been on a kot, and it sucks... you can't get any speed... it's like surfing on ISDN & way worse.
And it's not all in in Leuven, you needed to pay 7000 BEF/year last year for the entire building, i know... but you can't do much... i pay less, and i get full access...

SAP ain't the responsability of the ARC, at least not of those guys who are dealing with pc-rooms etc.

Koen: i've worked on the student servers, and i know it ain't the best, but if you compare the surfing-comfort for students, things are better in Gent... way better. And at least we could fully configure own own servers :cool:
and i wasn't saying advalvas & newgroups don't exist in Leuven, tine was saying this...

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:42 AM
De RUG is een goeie universiteit, maar op vlak van internet zitten ze achter. Maar ze zijn aan't verbeteren, de website nu is al stukken beter dan een maand geleden (toen ik niet eens een personeelslid kon terugvinden).
dat stond op de homepagina, tine (net na het introductiescherm), dus het was niet moeilijk te vinden ;).

En idd, ze zaten ferm achter, maar als ik vorig jaar de gasten van LOKO zelf hoor zeggen dat Gent nu beter is, dan is er wel een reden toe zeker? ;). Leuven is aan het verliezen door de houding van stad, en Gent wint net door o.a. Freya (hey, daar moet ik ze goeie punten op geven ;))

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:43 AM
you are talking about the past, tine.. now all Uni-rooms have internet, and way faster than the KUL (which is seriously lacking speed, read the Veto of a couple of months ago...)

Stress on 'Uni' in your case. In Leuven, it's not only the dorms that are connected but ALL rooms, including the privately owned ones. And the speed depends on the number of students on a modem.


at prices that are unreasonably high... we were thinking to do the same (we had the budget), but it was not usefull... when renting for a year, you can almost buy the pc for the same price...

It's not that expensive at all. I think the prices are very reasonable.

and the adresses were available for over 6 years, tine ('electronisch telefoonboek')

But if you didn't know the exact spelling, it was impossible to find someone. I tried everything, couldn't find her. Now, on the new website, I found her right away.
I'm trying again now, and I'm struggling once more...where's that phonebook?

Just compare the two websites and you'll see the difference.

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:45 AM
Ik vind niet dat Leuven moet onderdoen aan sportaanbod.

http://www.kuleuven.ac.be/sport/sportaanbod/index.htm

http://www.ugent.be/nl/studenten/studleven/Sporten_aan_%20de_%20UGent/Sporttakken

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:46 AM
maar serieus nu, zeg eens waar ik da telefoonboek nu kan vinden op de site want ik vind het niet!

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:48 AM
Stress on 'Uni' in your case. In Leuven, it's not only the dorms that are connected but ALL rooms, including the privately owned ones. And the speed depends on the number of students on a modem.
i know a lot of people in Leuven, tine, and they are all complaining... even MSN is sometimes(ok, very seldom) hard to do, and that doesn't need much resources ;).


It's not that expensive at all. I think the prices are very reasonable.
you need to pay 35 euro for a PIII 550. I can build that myself for 450 euro...(new pieces) that's just over 1 year...
But if you didn't know the exact spelling, it was impossible to find someone. I tried everything, couldn't find her. Now, on the new website, I found her right away.
I'm trying again now, and I'm struggling once more...where's that phonebook?

Just compare the two websites and you'll see the difference.
http://www.ugent.be/portal/phonebook

(staat dus op de hoofdpagina)

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 11:49 AM
:eek: ik heet nu al Koen :eek:

and keep talking in english people...other people can be interested ;)

btw I think sports in Leuven are better then Ghent :)

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:49 AM
but how do you get to that phonebook from the homepage?

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:52 AM
Ik vind niet dat Leuven moet onderdoen aan sportaanbod.

http://www.kuleuven.ac.be/sport/sportaanbod/index.htm

http://www.ugent.be/nl/studenten/studleven/Sporten_aan_%20de_%20UGent/Sporttakken
check eens de openingsuren van het zwemmen tine ;) en vergeet niet dat de topsporters bij ons ook nog gebruik kunnen maken van het bloso-centrum & de topsporthal (beperkte mogelijkheden in dat laatste wel)

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:52 AM
but how do you get to that phonebook from the homepage?i've modded my post... and Per4ever, i thought your first name was koen, must have been wrong ;)

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 11:54 AM
on top of the page: contactinfo

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:54 AM
en ik denk dat de studenten in Leuven nu klagen omdat ze gewoon beter gewoon zijn. Als er minder volk op zat ging het natuurlijk sneller, nu heeft iedereen internet. Ze zijn allemaal een beetje verwend. Ik heb hier nog niks van problemen ondervonden. Het enige da ambetant is, is dat ze kazaa en dergelijke blokken maar ik kan daar wel inkomen. 't Is tenslotte groot.

Hier kunt ge alle verkeerststatistieken vinden.

http://www.ludit.kuleuven.ac.be/internet/

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 11:57 AM
waar staan de openingsuren van 't zwembad? Ik zie alleen 'zie openingsuren'.

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:58 AM
en ik denk dat de studenten in Leuven nu klagen omdat ze gewoon beter gewoon zijn. Als er minder volk op zat ging het natuurlijk sneller, nu heeft iedereen internet. Ze zijn allemaal een beetje verwend. Ik heb hier nog niks van problemen ondervonden. Het enige da ambetant is, is dat ze kazaa en dergelijke blokken maar ik kan daar wel inkomen. 't Is tenslotte groot.

Hier kunt ge alle verkeerststatistieken vinden.

http://www.ludit.kuleuven.ac.be/internet/
i know tine, it used to be great, but when everybody uses it, it sucks... and how can first-year students be spoiled? (blocking Kazaa is logical; off course, that's not the problem, although it's a facility less for the students).

and we've made our own calculations in order to do it in Gent too, but it's just not worth the money they are spending in Leuven....

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 11:59 AM
waar staan de openingsuren van 't zwembad? Ik zie alleen 'zie openingsuren'.
http://www.ugent.be/portal/nl/studenten/studleven/Sporten_aan_%20de_%20UGent (you just needed to go back a page)

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 12:01 PM
ze hebben er in Leuven zoveel geld in gestoken omdat ze uiteindelijk willen dat alles via't net gebeurd, en dat is bijna zo. Als een prof een powerpoint presentatie geeft kan ie dat gewoon op't net zetten en kunnen de studenten dat nog eens bekijken op hun computer thuis. Alleen voor lessen moet ge nog uw kot uit, bijna.
Ik gebruik de website van de KUL wel degelijk dagelijks!

Het slechte aan kotnet is dat veel meer studenten dus effectief ganse avonden op hun kot zitten en er dus minder wordt uitgegaan.

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 12:01 PM
the site of Ugent is just horrible imo..I often don't find what I'm looking for ;) and it's not like I don't know how to surf :o

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 12:05 PM
K, ze zijn echt wel aan't verbeteren, ge vindt er nu al veel meer op dan een maand geleden. Maar lessenroosters vind ik nog altijd niet, wel de vakken.

arn
May 22nd, 2003, 12:07 PM
To come back to the subject ;)

I have a friend who goes to the Vesalius college (an american) and he is happy about it I think. I will ask for his email-adres so you can contact him and so you can ask your question directly to him :)

per4ever
May 22nd, 2003, 12:08 PM
K, ze zijn echt wel aan't verbeteren, ge vindt er nu al veel meer op dan een maand geleden. Maar lessenroosters vind ik nog altijd niet, wel de vakken.
voor lessenroosters moet ge op de sites van de faculteiten zijn

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 12:21 PM
't is daar da'k ben gaan zoeken, maar 'k vond alleen de vakken erop per richting, niet de lessenroosters + lokalen zelf.

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 12:28 PM
architectuur heeft wel een schone website op de RUG

minboy
May 22nd, 2003, 12:36 PM
a member just ask a question about vesalius college, and it goes "my uni is better than yours".....funny!!

Dizzy Miss Lizzy
May 22nd, 2003, 12:40 PM
a member just ask a question about vesalius college, and it goes "my uni is better than yours".....funny!!

Lol, minboy :D

And besides, Antwerp rules. :worship: ;)

Josh
May 22nd, 2003, 12:43 PM
Woohooo fight between Leuven and Gent! :bounce:

But to get back to the question people :rolleyes:, Vesalius College is a very good place to study. It's very small, only about 500 students I believe but this also ensures close contact with the teachers. Foreign students are immediately accepted in the student population of the VUB and they also have their own "society" which offers them help and information and also organises lots of activities.

The degrees of the College are accredited by the British Open University. Most students are Americans and Spaniards, at least most people I know seem to be of those nationalities.

The College is situated just next to the VUB and the ULB (Flemish and French university). Student rooms are nearby, even in the same building. And the city centre of Brussels is easily accessible by public transport (subway, bus, tram and train).

Josh
May 22nd, 2003, 12:46 PM
Some maps :

http://www.vub.ac.be/VECO/aveco/images/map1big.jpg
Vesalius is situated at the black arrow.

And this is a closer look at the VUB campus (though they have built two new buildings now) :
http://www.vub.ac.be/VECO/aveco/images/map2big.jpg

tfannis
May 22nd, 2003, 12:53 PM
a member just ask a question about vesalius college, and it goes "my uni is better than yours".....funny!!

lol :o Poor Seles....has to go through al this fighting in order to find the answers related to her question :o:o

I suppose we Belgians don't know a lot about the Vesalius College because it's meant for foreign students? :confused:

gentenaire
May 22nd, 2003, 12:57 PM
The VUB campus I visited once (I presume the math department) looked very nice and very green.

JPV
May 22nd, 2003, 01:10 PM
ze hebben er in Leuven zoveel geld in gestoken omdat ze uiteindelijk willen dat alles via't net gebeurd, en dat is bijna zo. Als een prof een powerpoint presentatie geeft kan ie dat gewoon op't net zetten en kunnen de studenten dat nog eens bekijken op hun computer thuis. Alleen voor lessen moet ge nog uw kot uit, bijna.
Ik gebruik de website van de KUL wel degelijk dagelijks!

Het slechte aan kotnet is dat veel meer studenten dus effectief ganse avonden op hun kot zitten en er dus minder wordt uitgegaan.
so? I've had colleges at some 9 faculties, and the only one that's horrible is the faculty of science... apart from this faculty, i've always found notes on the internet, sometimes, the prof didn't even have notes to sell, we just could buy a cd-rom.../download it.

Mod: and now i'll stop :p

AjdeNate!
May 22nd, 2003, 03:41 PM
Well thanks! I'm just compiling info now to see if it's something I'm gonna do or not. I want to finish my degree and want to live abroad for a bit... so becoming a student again seems the best combination to do both. I'm checking out 1 in London, 1 in Paris (probably not gonna go there), and this one. I have distant relatives in Belgium that could help me with transition - so that's why I was thinking of that, but they don't know anything about this uni. Thanks again!

2ace2
May 22nd, 2003, 04:11 PM
I'm thinking about studying political sciences in Leuven :)

Josh
May 22nd, 2003, 04:19 PM
You should come to Brussels then...You'll be right in the heart of politics, Brussels, Flanders, Belgium, Europe, NATO,...;)