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Sam L
May 20th, 2003, 12:24 AM
So my goal this winter is to not come out the other side with 10 pounds of extra baggage, which is what I usually do. I've also taken a new interest in cooking and recipes so we'll see how much I can keep this up, so come on everyone I know we can all talk about it. :devil: Let's help each other out! ;)

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 12:31 AM
It's a nice idea, and I'm also trying to lose some weight. But I'm not gonna post all about it on here!

Good luck with it though! :D

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 12:39 AM
Hey! I am excercising too Sam! Happy endeavours!

Celeste
May 20th, 2003, 12:46 AM
I went on the Karen Carpenter diet a few times. It really works! But you have to know when to go off of it.

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 12:47 AM
I went on the Karen Carpenter diet a few times. It really works! But you have to know when to go off of it.

Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 12:47 AM
:rolleyes:

AjdeNate!
May 20th, 2003, 01:32 AM
So my goal this winter is to not come out the other side with 10 pounds of extra baggage, which is what I usually do. I've also taken a new interest in cooking and recipes so we'll see how much I can keep this up, so come on everyone I know we can all talk about it. :devil: Let's help each other out! ;)
My only 'diet' advice. Take your weight (in pounds), divide it by 2. That number is the number of ounces of water you need to consume every 24 hours. If you do that I GUARANTEE you will lose some weight.

For example:
If you weighed 180 pounds. Divied by 2 = 90
So you need to drink 90 ounces of water everyday.

Worked for me 3 summers ago... I lost like, well quite a bit of weight.

Only downfall.... you pee alllllllllllll the time!!! I'd have to get up about 3 times per night when sleeping to go let the lizzard out. :0

I'm doing it again to get trim and buff for when I go visit my bitch down under. :angel:

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:04 AM
lol yes, drinking alot of anything is always bad - coz it makes you pee heaps! :p

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 02:50 AM
Seles, you seem to be onto something, though I'm not sure I'd take it to such an extreme. Everyone is supposed to drink 64 oz of water as part of a healthy diet. Most people eat when they are really thirsty (lots of interesting theories behind that one), so drinking more water is good for you. I'm not sure if drinking 90 oz is still healthy, but I suppose if you didn't have any dire effects (besides the constant bladder explosions ;)) . . .

Sam, exercise is a great way to combat weight :) I'm starting up my regime this summer as well, a combination of endurance and strength training.

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 03:33 AM
It is NOT summer for Sam or me - we are in Australia! We are going into winter! :p

btw, there has recently been in the news here that no one knows where the "drink 8 glasses of water a day" comes from coz there is no research that prooves it does anything - other than making you pee alot, and maybe feeling a little less hungry! ;) :p

AjdeNate!
May 20th, 2003, 03:38 AM
Well I don't know any science behind it, but I promise the 1/2 your weight in ounces theory works. I even overdid it. I was drinking about 200 ounces a day, just because. I never drank Coke or anything else, well maybe some OJ, because I was never thirsty. I ate a bagel at breakfast, and a normal meal at night (Like pasta, steak, whatever I usually ate). And within like 2 months there was a brand new me.

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 03:44 AM
bagels :confused: aren't they full of fat???

I eat toast and have fruit juice for brekky, cycles at least 20 kms a day, have fruit as snacks and usually have either pasta or a couple of rolls for lunch. Dinner is the worst meal fat wise, coz all meat seems to have much damn fat in it (which sucks coz I love my meat)! I do drink alot of water - but you can't live on water, you still need to have three proper meals a day. But yeah, cutting down on coke and soft drinks really does help, coz water has no calories! :D

Jordan.
May 20th, 2003, 03:46 AM
All I drink is water.

Now all I'm gonna start eating is crackers.

AjdeNate!
May 20th, 2003, 03:51 AM
Plain bagel. Yeah, probably has a lot of fat... but if I have to get up at 430am for work, I'm gonna have me some fat. :) I don't really eat lunch very often. At work, it's always so busy we really don't have a chance to get away to eat food. And in the event we bring something, inevitably if it's hot it gets cold, and if it's cold I just don't find the time. Stress is a good weight reducer, but I don't condone adding any of that.

:wavey: Jordan.!!!

Sam L
May 20th, 2003, 04:02 AM
It is NOT summer for Sam or me - we are in Australia! We are going into winter! :p


Yep Sarah's right, and that's the biggest problem. In summer, I'm fine cause I eat vegies and fruits and drink heaps of water (Seles, I don't know if I can drink that much! LOL) Although at work it's good cause I'll never sit down long enough to get bored. lol

But in winter, my diet typically consists of pumpkin soup, coffee, pastries, pizza, garlic bread, muffins, pretzals, pasta, bagels, tea, butterscotch fingers, biscuits of all sorts, chips and vegie burgers. All the tasty stuff. :rolleyes: So I'm really trying not to go anywhere near that stuff this winter.

See I had a tasteless salad just then at lunch and an orange juice. Yum.

decemberlove
May 20th, 2003, 04:11 AM
i drink about 96 oz of water a day. and im only 120 lbs. i cant imagine just drinking 60 oz a day... i LOVE water. its about the only thing i drink... and i usually have arizona green tea once a day. yum. and in the winter i drink loads of orange juice... keeps me from getting sick.

the only exercise i do is walking/jogging the dog. i play bball and volleyball usually 4 times a week.. i played beach volleyball almost everday last year.. gotta love the beach :) when i go to maine for vaca in the summer, i usually do a lot of hiking, climbing, biking, and kayaking. yeah and i have lots of sweaty, wild sex.

all the food i eat is kiddie food. i eat like an 8 year old.. thou i eat lots of it.

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 04:13 AM
Water helps you lose weight or it's just healthy for you?! I don't drink enough water, and the medicine I am taking already gives me an overactive bladder. I don't need more water!!!!!! I like my pee yellow :o

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:15 AM
It is NOT summer for Sam or me - we are in Australia! We are going into winter! :p

btw, there has recently been in the news here that no one knows where the "drink 8 glasses of water a day" comes from coz there is no research that prooves it does anything - other than making you pee alot, and maybe feeling a little less hungry! ;) :p

I realize that, but since I'm in the northern hemisphere, its into the humidity for me!

Well, one of the theories behind overeating/water drinking that I was talking about is the idea that as we as humans have evolved, our thirst drive got considerably weaker, so we mistake being thirsty for being hungry.

Bagels being full of fat? Depends on what kind you have, I suppose . . . but plain ones, I don't think so.

You guys don't buy into the hype about high protein/low to no carb diets do you?

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 04:18 AM
Forget bagels... What about eggs?! I can cook it any kind of way, but there is always a new healthy or unhealthy opinion on it, so I never know the right way to go about my eggs?! LOL!

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Plain bagel. Yeah, probably has a lot of fat... but if I have to get up at 430am for work, I'm gonna have me some fat. :) I don't really eat lunch very often.

LOL! Well, okay, I suppose ODing on water is one of the more harmless things you can do to yourself ;) Sounds like you have some good eating habits. I myself can't eat in the morning because it makes me sick, but I find myself really hungry at night, which is the worst time to eat because you eat a ton and sleep. One of the things I do to try to combat this is drinking a lot of water during the day.

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:23 AM
Mrs. Guga -- drinking water is good for you, and it could help you lose weight because it curbs your appetite.

As far as I know, eggs, like everything else, are good in moderation.

Sam, good luck changing the foods you eat :) I'm here for the exercise support if you want it, that's the primary reason I came in here in the first place . . .

decemberlove
May 20th, 2003, 04:26 AM
Water helps you lose weight or it's just healthy for you?! I don't drink enough water, and the medicine I am taking already gives me an overactive bladder. I don't need more water!!!!!! I like my pee yellow :o

[too] yellow pee is considered unhealthy [dehydration]. it should be clear for the most part.

there are those that believe water helps you lose weight by filling you up so you dont eat as much. but i think what it really does, is it helps "un-bloat" your stomach. when you have too much sodium/salt you get bloated and retain water. water helps cleanse you, or some bullshit like that.

drinking water actually helps your complexion too.

what people should stay away from is sugar. carbs are good for you. as is fat and protein. but too much of anything is usually a bad thing... everything such be kept in moderation. your best bet to losing weight is balancing it all out and exercising. those all protein no carb diets are just BAD for your body and energy levels.
if you eat something with sugar in the morning, you will retain more of the fat that you eat later in the day, something like 40%, i believe. so if you must have sugar, dont have too much and try to eat it towards the end of the night.

Jordan.
May 20th, 2003, 04:27 AM
:p

Jordan.
May 20th, 2003, 04:27 AM
:wavey: Seles

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 04:28 AM
I eat eggs like everyday though... because there are four kids in my house, and we eat up everything, so eggs are the thing I eat the most 'cause my sister doesn't care for them and my brothers won't eat anything not cooked for them or that they can't just grab from the cabinet. So is that bad?! I do like to cook it with tomatoes and green peppers though, the ONLY fruits and vegetables I like... well, I like grapes

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 04:30 AM
[too] yellow pee is considered unhealthy [dehydration]. it should be clear for the most part.

there are those that believe water helps you lose weight by filling you up so you dont eat as much. but i think what it really does, is it helps "un-bloat" your stomach. when you have too much sodium/salt you get bloated and retain water. water helps cleanse you, or some bullshit like that.

drinking water actually helps your complexion too.

what people should stay away from is sugar. carbs are good for you. as is fat and protein. but too much of anything is usually a bad thing... everything such be kept in moderation. your best bet to losing weight is balancing it all out and exercising. those all protein no carb diets are just BAD for your body and energy levels.
if you eat something with sugar in the morning, you will retain more of the fat that you eat later in the day, something like 40%, i believe. so if you must have sugar, dont have too much and try to eat it towards the end of the night.

Thanks :) I'll remember this

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:31 AM
Plain bagel. Yeah, probably has a lot of fat... but if I have to get up at 430am for work, I'm gonna have me some fat. :) I don't really eat lunch very often. At work, it's always so busy we really don't have a chance to get away to eat food. And in the event we bring something, inevitably if it's hot it gets cold, and if it's cold I just don't find the time. Stress is a good weight reducer, but I don't condone adding any of that.

:wavey: Jordan.!!!

yeah, I don't usually get time to eat at work, but I work in the evening, so it means I'm having lunch at about 1pm as normal, but I'm not having dinner till after 10pm - which is a long gap. But I usually don't have time to eat anything at work, and it's bad to eat so late! :fiery: Plus I'm always stressed at work, coz when I get to work, everyone else leaves and so I'm stuck there by myself serving the customers. :fiery: But it hasn't helped me lose weight! I don't think for women stress does help you losde weight, because then you tend to turn to junk food, coz when you stress you feel bad...

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:33 AM
Yep Sarah's right, and that's the biggest problem. In summer, I'm fine cause I eat vegies and fruits and drink heaps of water (Seles, I don't know if I can drink that much! LOL) Although at work it's good cause I'll never sit down long enough to get bored. lol

But in winter, my diet typically consists of pumpkin soup, coffee, pastries, pizza, garlic bread, muffins, pretzals, pasta, bagels, tea, butterscotch fingers, biscuits of all sorts, chips and vegie burgers. All the tasty stuff. :rolleyes: So I'm really trying not to go anywhere near that stuff this winter.

See I had a tasteless salad just then at lunch and an orange juice. Yum.

actually, pasta's quite good if you have it with a tomato based sauce, and if you make it with meat, use lean meat. Coz pasta hasn't much fat in it, but it still gives you energy. It's the pizza, bikkies and dhips that are the problem! ;)

Sam L
May 20th, 2003, 04:33 AM
I'm here for the exercise support if you want it, that's the primary reason I came in here in the first place . . .

I've been meaning to join my local gym for the last 2 years. It hasn't happened. LOL! But I do go running and skipping and stuff. I play tennis like once a fortnight. lol

Mrs. Guga, I have eggs like virtually everyday too. :o I don't believe that can be good for us. :o

Ok I'll make it an effort to drink lots and lots of water at work - this means I have to constantly keep getting up and up. :devil:

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:34 AM
[too] yellow pee is considered unhealthy [dehydration]. it should be clear for the most part.

there are those that believe water helps you lose weight by filling you up so you dont eat as much. but i think what it really does, is it helps "un-bloat" your stomach. when you have too much sodium/salt you get bloated and retain water. water helps cleanse you, or some bullshit like that.

LOL! at that last sentence. Interesting theory, though.

drinking water actually helps your complexion too.

what people should stay away from is sugar. carbs are good for you. as is fat and protein. but too much of anything is usually a bad thing... everything such be kept in moderation. your best bet to losing weight is balancing it all out and exercising. those all protein no carb diets are just BAD for your body and energy levels.
if you eat something with sugar in the morning, you will retain more of the fat that you eat later in the day, something like 40%, i believe. so if you must have sugar, dont have too much and try to eat it towards the end of the night.

Wholeheartedly agree with you on points one (complexion) and two (all protein/low carbs = bad for you). But I have a question about the sugar stuff. So you're saying that if you eat sugar at night, its not as bad for you? I mean, unused sugar is turned into stored fat, and since the normal person don't exercise at night, at least not enough to burn off sugar, I don't quite follow you . . . ?

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:36 AM
I eat eggs like everyday though... because there are four kids in my house, and we eat up everything, so eggs are the thing I eat the most 'cause my sister doesn't care for them and my brothers won't eat anything not cooked for them or that they can't just grab from the cabinet. So is that bad?! I do like to cook it with tomatoes and green peppers though, the ONLY fruits and vegetables I like... well, I like grapes

Well, I don't think its horrible to eat a lot of eggs. I mean, consider the alternatives [processed junk]. I think its the yolks that are supposed to be bad for you, but I'm not too clear. Eat as much of a variety of those things as you can, though.

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:36 AM
I realize that, but since I'm in the northern hemisphere, its into the humidity for me!

Well, one of the theories behind overeating/water drinking that I was talking about is the idea that as we as humans have evolved, our thirst drive got considerably weaker, so we mistake being thirsty for being hungry.

Bagels being full of fat? Depends on what kind you have, I suppose . . . but plain ones, I don't think so.

You guys don't buy into the hype about high protein/low to no carb diets do you?

fuck no! I could never cut out my carbs! I'd miss my bread and pasta too much! Besides, you have to have some energy - what's the point of eating high protein when you have no energy from not having anough carbs? ;) I think any sort of "diet" like that is bad though - you need to eat a balanced diet...you shouldn't have too many carbs, but you shouldn't have too much protein either!

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:39 AM
I don't think for women stress does help you losde weight, because then you tend to turn to junk food, coz when you stress you feel bad...

I think it depends on your response to stress. Some people lose their appetite while some people don't. There's also the whole concept of "emotional eaters" -- you, apparently, eat when you feel bad. Some people don't eat at all (though I suspect this is the minority opinion ;)). Its called comfort food for a reason, though ;)

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:39 AM
I eat eggs like everyday though... because there are four kids in my house, and we eat up everything, so eggs are the thing I eat the most 'cause my sister doesn't care for them and my brothers won't eat anything not cooked for them or that they can't just grab from the cabinet. So is that bad?! I do like to cook it with tomatoes and green peppers though, the ONLY fruits and vegetables I like... well, I like grapes
hmm if you don't eat much meat, then eggs are good for the protein, but you shouldn't eat too many. A 60gram egg had 7 grams of fat in it (mostly the yolk), but in the healthy eating book I just bought, it says too many eggs are not good for you - you should try to limit it to 3-4 times a week max!

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:42 AM
LOL! at that last sentence. Interesting theory, though.



Wholeheartedly agree with you on points one (complexion) and two (all protein/low carbs = bad for you). But I have a question about the sugar stuff. So you're saying that if you eat sugar at night, its not as bad for you? I mean, unused sugar is turned into stored fat, and since the normal person don't exercise at night, at least not enough to burn off sugar, I don't quite follow you . . . ?the sugar thing has to do with your metabolism...it's best if you eat sugary stuff in the afternoon - coz if you eat it when you wake up, your metabolism is still slow from the sleep you have hd. If you've done exercise in the morning, and had a good brekky and lunch, then the best time for sugary stuff is afternoon/evening. But don't have it right before bed, or else it will get turned to fat!

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 04:45 AM
blah blah blah.
anything you don't use either leaves your body as waste, or gets stored as fat. no matter what time of day it is.

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:45 AM
I've been meaning to join my local gym for the last 2 years. It hasn't happened. LOL! But I do go running and skipping and stuff. I play tennis like once a fortnight. lol

Mrs. Guga, I have eggs like virtually everyday too. :o I don't believe that can be good for us. :o

Ok I'll make it an effort to drink lots and lots of water at work - this means I have to constantly keep getting up and up. :devil:

I started working out seriously last year, and it really made a difference. Not only in my body, but my mood -- its true what they say (Jesus I feel like a cliche machine tonight :o), but if you make your body feel good, you'll feel good again. Exercise is a good way to combat depression especially.

I probably do a pretty light routine, but I make sure its a variation of things. I do endurance work (mostly walking) and strength training for my arms, legs, abs. I didn't realize this until halfway through the summer last year, but apparently the secret is: low weight + lots of reps = more tone, while high weight + fewer reps = strength. I went the high weight/low reps route and became pretty strong, considering ;) And its like a cycle, because the stronger your legs, the longer you can walk and so on. This summer I'm adding tennis to my regime and hope to see some overall results. Tennis is probably one of the best sports you can do for overall fitness because of all the different things you're doing at once. Swimming is also good.

And never fear, once your body gets accustomed to drinking so much water, you won't be up every five minutes ;)

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:46 AM
I think it depends on your response to stress. Some people lose their appetite while some people don't. There's also the whole concept of "emotional eaters" -- you, apparently, eat when you feel bad. Some people don't eat at all (though I suspect this is the minority opinion ;)). Its called comfort food for a reason, though ;)Actually, I'm not a big eater at all. It's just that I tended to eat alot of bad food instead of eating good food, and so I put on weight. Yeah sometimes if I get stressed I'll eat junk food, but not all the time. I'm not a big "emotional eater" by any means. My problem mostly was because of the big gap between me having lunch and then having dinner ater work 8 hours later, with nothing in between, I usually couldn't be bothered to cook when I got home, so I ate junk food. Now I'm trying to take a roll and a bit of fruit to work, and trying to find time to eat between customers so that I don't feel so hugry when I get home and I will actually make something better for me! ;)

But true, people react differently to stress - but I was just meaning that women tend to be more emotional eaters than men! ;)

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:47 AM
fuck no! I could never cut out my carbs! I'd miss my bread and pasta too much! Besides, you have to have some energy - what's the point of eating high protein when you have no energy from not having anough carbs? ;) I think any sort of "diet" like that is bad though - you need to eat a balanced diet...you shouldn't have too many carbs, but you shouldn't have too much protein either!

Oh thank you [insert diety of your choice here]!!

:worship::worship::worship:

I can't believe how all the rage that diet is. It has to be hell on your digestive system, just to start! I'm a carb-lover, too, especially pasta :lick:

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 04:47 AM
blah blah blah.
anything you don't use either leaves your body as waste, or gets stored as fat. no matter what time of day it is.yes, but in the afternoon when your metabolism is higher, then your body is using more neegry - if your metabolism is slow, you don't use as much energy, and so more will be stored as fat! :p

ANyway - going to work now! :wavey:

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:49 AM
the sugar thing has to do with your metabolism...it's best if you eat sugary stuff in the afternoon - coz if you eat it when you wake up, your metabolism is still slow from the sleep you have hd. If you've done exercise in the morning, and had a good brekky and lunch, then the best time for sugary stuff is afternoon/evening. But don't have it right before bed, or else it will get turned to fat!

Ahhhh, okay. I get it now. I've never heard that.

decemberlove
May 20th, 2003, 04:50 AM
LOL! at that last sentence. Interesting theory, though.



Wholeheartedly agree with you on points one (complexion) and two (all protein/low carbs = bad for you). But I have a question about the sugar stuff. So you're saying that if you eat sugar at night, its not as bad for you? I mean, unused sugar is turned into stored fat, and since the normal person don't exercise at night, at least not enough to burn off sugar, I don't quite follow you . . . ?

sorry.. im not too great at being clear :)

its still bad for you... but if youre the type of person to eat loads of fat during the day... then its better to eat it later in the day cos sugar helps you retain fat. i tend to think if everything is kept in moderation, it cant be that bad for you.

anyway, i am THE sugar-eater. like i said, i eat like an 8 year old... and my menu certainly doesnt exclude sugar. im blessed with a fast metabolism and do enough activity where i dont have to worry about what i eat. im not really a meat eater... and i DONT eat at mcdonalds except for a once a month egg mcmuffin. other than that, i hate that shit. it is just plain bad for you and tastes like shit anyway. grease is not my idea of yummy, thank you.

i do make up for the child eating by munching on tons of fruits and some vegetables. mainly, im a fruit lover. strawberries, kiwis, clementines, oranges, grapes, pineapples, etc. the only veggies i really like are cucumbers, carrots, lettuce, and tomatoes.

and after a while of drinking tons of water, your body gets used to all the peeing. its not THAT hard to walk to the bathroom, is it? :p

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 04:51 AM
hmm if you don't eat much meat, then eggs are good for the protein, but you shouldn't eat too many. A 60gram egg had 7 grams of fat in it (mostly the yolk), but in the healthy eating book I just bought, it says too many eggs are not good for you - you should try to limit it to 3-4 times a week max!

Omigod, nooooooooooooooo! LOL! But I don't eat much meat though?!?!?!?! So can I increase it to 4-5 x a week?!

And last thing... I am not an excerciser, but I KNOW I will be fat later in life if I don't get on a routine now because that's how it goes in the family. Slim when your young, big when you age. Sooooo, I started exercising recently-- dancing, jogging, and using the excercise bike. Plus, I am trying to flatten my stomach. So I have been doing 40 sit-ups a day, 20 in the morning, 20 a night (and my friend said to increase the no. each week). But I am so weak. The last time I played a sport was freshman year and it was sooooo easy. I've always been a bit of a tomboy, but by no means, Miss Fitness-Athelete. So, what I am getting to is, all this exercise--I can't imagine doing it for a summer! It's torture! But if I really keep it up, does it truly get easier and less painful as time unfolds?! Will it become as quotidien as putting on my clothes?!

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:53 AM
Actually, I'm not a big eater at all. It's just that I tended to eat alot of bad food instead of eating good food, and so I put on weight. Yeah sometimes if I get stressed I'll eat junk food, but not all the time. I'm not a big "emotional eater" by any means. My problem mostly was because of the big gap between me having lunch and then having dinner ater work 8 hours later, with nothing in between, I usually couldn't be bothered to cook when I got home, so I ate junk food. Now I'm trying to take a roll and a bit of fruit to work, and trying to find time to eat between customers so that I don't feel so hugry when I get home and I will actually make something better for me! ;)

But true, people react differently to stress - but I was just meaning that women tend to be more emotional eaters than men! ;)

Very true, but then you delve into the idea that women are 'allowed' to be more emotional than men and its possible to go down that path . . .

Good luck with your roll and fruit idea!! :) Its not good to go so long without eating at least something, but I understand the situation is tough. I hope you can make it a habit, and perhaps be a little less busy at work! ;)

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 04:55 AM
Omigod, nooooooooooooooo! LOL! But I don't eat much meat though?!?!?!?! So can I increase it to 4-5 x a week?!

And last thing... I am not an excerciser, but I KNOW I will be fat later in life if I don't get on a routine now because that's how it goes in the family. Slim when your young, big when you age. Sooooo, I started exercising recently-- dancing, jogging, and using the excercise bike. Plus, I am trying to flatten my stomach. So I have been doing 40 sit-ups a day, 20 in the morning, 20 a night (and my friend said to increase the no. each week). But I am so weak. The last time I played a sport was freshman year and it was sooooo easy. I've always been a bit of a tomboy, but by no means, Miss Fitness-Athelete. So, what I am getting to is, all this exercise--I can't imagine doing it for a summer! It's torture! But if I really keep it up, does it truly get easier and less painful as time unfolds?! Will it become as quotidien as putting on my clothes?!

lmao Mrs.G :D

yes, it really does get easier. But when you're doing those sit-ups, you're not burning fat, you're building muscle. That aerobic stuff is getting rid of the fat. So, the more sit-ups you do, the more muscle definition you'll have when the flab is burned away. Good luck!!!

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:57 AM
anyway, i am THE sugar-eater. like i said, i eat like an 8 year old... and my menu certainly doesnt exclude sugar. im blessed with a fast metabolism and do enough activity where i dont have to worry about what i eat. im not really a meat eater... and i DONT eat at mcdonalds except for a once a month egg mcmuffin. other than that, i hate that shit. it is just plain bad for you and tastes like shit anyway. grease is not my idea of yummy, thank you.

i do make up for the child eating by munching on tons of fruits and some vegetables. mainly, im a fruit lover. strawberries, kiwis, clementines, oranges, grapes, pineapples, etc. the only veggies i really like are cucumbers, carrots, lettuce, and tomatoes.

and after a while of drinking tons of water, your body gets used to all the peeing. its not THAT hard to walk to the bathroom, is it? :p

LOL!! I certainly do my share of sugar and carb eating, and I'm also a meat-eater (though I don't touch pork -- ugh! The idea of it curdles my stomach :(). I don't eat fast food unless forced, and then I only eat at Wendy's. But seriously, I probably only eat fast food once in a blue moon. You're quite right about the quality of the food, as well as its nutrional value.

I love fruit but can't find good fruit very easily, least of all in the winter :sad: Strawberries, green apples, and oranges are my favorites :) Luckily, most fruit is coming into season right now :)

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 04:59 AM
lmao Mrs.G :D

yes, it really does get easier. But when you're doing those sit-ups, you're not burning fat, you're building muscle. That aerobic stuff is getting rid of the fat. So, the more sit-ups you do, the more muscle definition you'll have when the flab is burned away. Good luck!!!

Ew, wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha. I hate tone and bone definition and all that... my worst nightmare is to look like Madonna or Janet Jackson. They are too muscular! I want a flat stomach, not a six pack... is there any other way to flatten it?! I suck at this

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 05:01 AM
Plus, I am trying to flatten my stomach. So I have been doing 40 sit-ups a day, 20 in the morning, 20 a night (and my friend said to increase the no. each week). But I am so weak. The last time I played a sport was freshman year and it was sooooo easy. I've always been a bit of a tomboy, but by no means, Miss Fitness-Athelete. So, what I am getting to is, all this exercise--I can't imagine doing it for a summer! It's torture! But if I really keep it up, does it truly get easier and less painful as time unfolds?! Will it become as quotidien as putting on my clothes?!

If your gym has an ab machine, one where you sit and do the reps going forward, use that. It's so much better and easier on your back. Plus, if you use a machine, you can change the resistance more easily. Remember: low weight (15-20 lbs or so) and lots of reps (perhaps about 50) and you'll become more toned. And with so little weight, it seems like you're doing the reps in no time and it doesn't hurt ;)

Yes, the pain should lessen as time goes on, that's usually the signal to move on to more resistance if you're going for strength.

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 05:02 AM
Ew, wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha. I hate tone and bone definition and all that... my worst nightmare is to look like Madonna or Janet Jackson. They are too muscular! I want a flat stomach, not a six pack... is there any other way to flatten it?! I suck at this

you should still do sit-ups, just don't go hardcore into it. I agree that six-packs aren't very flattering on women, but fifty to seventy sit-ups a day won't make you look like a body-builder ;)

do more aerobic exercise...jogging, swimming, etc. That's better for you, anyway.

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 05:02 AM
If your gym has an ab machine, one where you sit and do the reps going forward, use that. It's so much better and easier on your back. Plus, if you use a machine, you can change the resistance more easily. Remember: low weight (15-20 lbs or so) and lots of reps (perhaps about 50) and you'll become more toned. And with so little weight, it seems like you're doing the reps in no time and it doesn't hurt ;)

Yes, the pain should lessen as time goes on, that's usually the signal to move on to more resistance if you're going for strength.

No, I just wanna be skinny again :sad:

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 05:03 AM
Ew, wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haha. I hate tone and bone definition and all that... my worst nightmare is to look like Madonna or Janet Jackson. They are too muscular! I want a flat stomach, not a six pack... is there any other way to flatten it?! I suck at this

You won't get ripped doing lots of reps with low resistance. To get a six-pack you have to tone up then do strength training, which is few reps on high weight.

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 05:03 AM
No, I just wanna be skinny again :sad:

lmao, like you're a rhino right now? :D

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 05:04 AM
No, I just wanna be skinny again :sad:

Then take up a sport like swimming or tennis, where you work the whole body at once.

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 05:05 AM
you should still do sit-ups, just don't go hardcore into it. I agree that six-packs aren't very flattering on women, but fifty to seventy sit-ups a day won't make you look like a body-builder ;)

do more aerobic exercise...jogging, swimming, etc. That's better for you, anyway.

Thanks! :kiss: I love you! Oh but I don't swim; I sink ;) I have started playing tennis though!! LOL! Have a wonderful night everyone

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 05:06 AM
Thanks! :kiss: I love you! Oh but I don't swim; I sink ;) I have started playing tennis though!! LOL! Have a wonderful night everyone

lol, love you, too! ;)

TH has some great advice...tennis is fucking hard, but great for your health *puff wheeze*.

See ya later!!

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 05:08 AM
TH has some great advice...tennis is fucking hard, but great for your health *puff wheeze*.

The more you do it, the less it hurts! ;)

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 05:09 AM
The more you do it, the less it hurts! ;)

bah, my words come back to haunt me ;) you're right, of course.

decemberlove
May 20th, 2003, 05:20 AM
has anyone tried pilates? talk about an ass kicker. Mrs. G, i recommend it. it wont give you bulky muscles. it will make you flexible and make you look leaner and longer. it WILL have you hurting the first time you do it. but thats always a good thing :)

i have never been a gym person myself. cant confine myself to the treadmill lifestyle. i was thinking about taking a hip hop dance class. i love dancing :hearts:

i wish i could play tennis, but i seem to be awful at it. my serve is alright but my forehand is HORRIBLE. i am rather good at badminton thou :D

Sam L
May 20th, 2003, 05:22 AM
has anyone tried pilates? talk about an ass kicker. Mrs. G, i recommend it. it wont give you bulky muscles. it will make you flexible and make you look leaner and longer. it WILL have you hurting the first time you do it. but thats always a good thing :)

i have never been a gym person myself. cant confine myself to the treadmill lifestyle. i was thinking about taking a hip hop dance class. i love dancing :hearts:

i wish i could play tennis, but i seem to be awful at it. my serve is alright but my forehand is HORRIBLE. i am rather good at badminton thou :D
I can't play too much tennis either. Plus whenever I play with my friends we end up fetching balls instead of hitting. lol

Hurley, mentioned something about pilates awhile back, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. But how does it make you look 'longer'? You mean taller? :confused:

GBFH
May 20th, 2003, 05:25 AM
I can't play too much tennis either. Plus whenever I play with my friends we end up fetching balls instead of hitting. lol

Hurley, mentioned something about pilates awhile back, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. But how does it make you look 'longer'? You mean taller? :confused:

lmao, feels like you were spying on my tennis sessions :o

decemberlove
May 20th, 2003, 05:40 AM
I can't play too much tennis either. Plus whenever I play with my friends we end up fetching balls instead of hitting. lol

Hurley, mentioned something about pilates awhile back, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. But how does it make you look 'longer'? You mean taller? :confused:

lol. same thing happens here. my friend usually gets pissed off at me cos i cant return forehand but my backhand rips her to pieces.

well it doesnt necessarily make you look taller... but it makes you look less bulky... making you look skinny and strong... so i guess less bulk will make you look slightly taller. plus, it really helps with posture. i made my psycho meathead male friend try it one day and he was whining for two days straight afterwards.

Martian Stacey
May 20th, 2003, 06:59 AM
:wavey: everyone

lol, i'm actually trying to become a bit healthier :) Usually i have the worst diet lol :p I eat junk food all the time and not a whole lot of fruit and stuff, and i never exercise. But the last couple of weeks i've been trying to kick that habit, and replace chips and biscuits and stuff with more fruit, and cut down on all the fried foods i eat, especially at lunch time, coz i'm not usually at home, so i just get fast food. I'm also trying to exercise a bit more, i went walking for an hour this morning :eek: ;) and i've been doing a bit of exercising while i watch tv and stuff. Hopefully i'll be able to stick to it ;)

Martian Stacey
May 20th, 2003, 07:19 AM
thanks mate ;) :)

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 01:40 PM
Oh thank you [insert diety of your choice here]!!

:worship::worship::worship:

I can't believe how all the rage that diet is. It has to be hell on your digestive system, just to start! I'm a carb-lover, too, especially pasta :lick:

ooh god! I love pasta too! I eat it at least 4 times a week - usually just with a tomato based sauce with onions and garlic or so - but sometimes I add some meat and veg too! I never eat pasta with a creamy sauce though - too fattening! ;)

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 01:44 PM
sorry.. im not too great at being clear :)

its still bad for you... but if youre the type of person to eat loads of fat during the day... then its better to eat it later in the day cos sugar helps you retain fat. i tend to think if everything is kept in moderation, it cant be that bad for you.

anyway, i am THE sugar-eater. like i said, i eat like an 8 year old... and my menu certainly doesnt exclude sugar. im blessed with a fast metabolism and do enough activity where i dont have to worry about what i eat. im not really a meat eater... and i DONT eat at mcdonalds except for a once a month egg mcmuffin. other than that, i hate that shit. it is just plain bad for you and tastes like shit anyway. grease is not my idea of yummy, thank you.

i do make up for the child eating by munching on tons of fruits and some vegetables. mainly, im a fruit lover. strawberries, kiwis, clementines, oranges, grapes, pineapples, etc. the only veggies i really like are cucumbers, carrots, lettuce, and tomatoes.

and after a while of drinking tons of water, your body gets used to all the peeing. its not THAT hard to walk to the bathroom, is it? :p

You shouldn't ever cut out sugar in your diet - you need some, or else you might develop diabetes! You shouldn't overdo the sugar, but if you don't have enough, then you can often feel faint and such (coz the body is producing too much insulin and you haven't enough sugar).

and actually, for me, at work, going to the toilet is hard, coz I'm by myself - which sucks! :fiery:

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 01:47 PM
Omigod, nooooooooooooooo! LOL! But I don't eat much meat though?!?!?!?! So can I increase it to 4-5 x a week?!

And last thing... I am not an excerciser, but I KNOW I will be fat later in life if I don't get on a routine now because that's how it goes in the family. Slim when your young, big when you age. Sooooo, I started exercising recently-- dancing, jogging, and using the excercise bike. Plus, I am trying to flatten my stomach. So I have been doing 40 sit-ups a day, 20 in the morning, 20 a night (and my friend said to increase the no. each week). But I am so weak. The last time I played a sport was freshman year and it was sooooo easy. I've always been a bit of a tomboy, but by no means, Miss Fitness-Athelete. So, what I am getting to is, all this exercise--I can't imagine doing it for a summer! It's torture! But if I really keep it up, does it truly get easier and less painful as time unfolds?! Will it become as quotidien as putting on my clothes?!

yeah, if you aren't eating much meat, then it's ok to have more eggs, but you should try to eat a bit more meat if you can.

Maybe with the exercise - you have to find something you like to do. I started cycling, and now I don't mind cycling each day because I put my exercise bike in front of the tv, and I can cycle while watching MTV or my fave tv show, and so it doesn't make it so bad. If you could find something like that to do, then it might help you enjoy it more! :D

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 01:53 PM
Very true, but then you delve into the idea that women are 'allowed' to be more emotional than men and its possible to go down that path . . .

Good luck with your roll and fruit idea!! :) Its not good to go so long without eating at least something, but I understand the situation is tough. I hope you can make it a habit, and perhaps be a little less busy at work! ;)
hmm I dunno about women being "allowed" to be more emotional eaters. I think it's kinda not an expectation as such, but it's something that everyone just take for granted - that women eat more when they are emotional. I don't think it's a good thing because it leads to weight fluctuations, which aren't good either. But of course, not all women are like that - everyone's different.

lol fat chance of it being less busy at work - my boss is trying to sell more and more, and he expetcs us to do everything by ourselves in the evening! pff It's OK for him, coz he has someone working with him in the day! :rolleyes:

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:05 PM
sam...if you're wanting to lose weight AND toxins, here's a good thing to do.

1. go on a vegetable/fruit juice fast for two weeks (this means juicing fresh fruits and vegetables, not canned or bottled) while drinking at least two liters of purified water a day.

2. get a colonic (a colonic is a high enema) at the end of each week (twice).

3. eat nothing but fruits, nuts and grains (plus lots of water) until you get to your desired weight.

4. swim (laps) two hours a day and get in 3 days a week of crunches, free weights and aerobics.

5. cut out all refined sugars, flours, and any animal flesh.

6. after you've achieved the weight you want to remain at, control what you eat so that you don't fill your body up with toxins again.

(if you keep to this regimen you'll not only lose weight, but you'll also clean your system of toxins and waste. which means when you lose weight your skin will maintain its elasticity and look of health.)


that is a bad suggestion IMHO! You need some carbs in your diet - just living on fruit and veg isn't good! Any diet that tells you to cut out major food groups (ie meat and such) is not a good diet. You need to eat balanced, not cut out half of the food groups! What about dairy, and meat is a good source of iron! Plus 2 hours of swimming a day with aerobics or whatever else is way too much! He doesn't wanna be a pro athlete! :eek: The best way to lose weight is to look at your eating patterns and exercise pattersn and make them more healthy. You should only aim to lose 1-2 kilos a week, or else you could be harming your body (I have read up on this, and also studied it in high school).

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:07 PM
:wavey: everyone

lol, i'm actually trying to become a bit healthier :) Usually i have the worst diet lol :p I eat junk food all the time and not a whole lot of fruit and stuff, and i never exercise. But the last couple of weeks i've been trying to kick that habit, and replace chips and biscuits and stuff with more fruit, and cut down on all the fried foods i eat, especially at lunch time, coz i'm not usually at home, so i just get fast food. I'm also trying to exercise a bit more, i went walking for an hour this morning :eek: ;) and i've been doing a bit of exercising while i watch tv and stuff. Hopefully i'll be able to stick to it ;)Good luck with it Stacey! :D We can encourage each other! :D

Martian Mel
May 20th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Well i've been trying to loose some weight lately and it is paying off!This is what i do.....

I work 8 hours a day at an icecreamfactory...My rule is....i won't eat icecream at work.. (i always did it because it's so fucking yummi...esp. ben & jerry )

I drink water during coffee breaks and only have a dietcoke during the mealbreak

No more fastfood during the mealbreak...i'll have some sandwiches...and a cup a soup.

I don't eat any candy whatsoever at home...i only eat fruit when im hungry before dinner.

Im a veggie so i don't eat any meat at dinner...i do eat lots of veggies and i try to cut down the fat sauce like ketchup and stuff

I have a hometrainer and i cycle 20 km a day!

Well this is some of the things i do and it is working!
I also check my weight everyday to get more motivated (it really motivates you when you see that you lost weight and it motivated you even more if you see that you didn't lost some after a while because then you'll try even harder..atleast i will..)

The golden rule is= not too much alcohol...Alcohol has so many calories
I was drinking a lot when i was in oz and i gained 10kilos in two months...i stopped drinking for two weeks and lost 5 kilos!!

Well i still do drink but only in the weekends! :angel:

Good luck everybody!

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:22 PM
yeah Mellie has a point - don't drink too much alcohol, coz then you also stack on the weight. (Lucky for me I hardly drink any).

But I was told by my doctor not to weigh myself every day, coz then you get really uptight about your weight, and at different times of day you can weigh different too! I weighed myself last Thursday and haven't since.

Martian Mel
May 20th, 2003, 02:25 PM
yeah Mellie has a point - don't drink too much alcohol, coz then you also stack on the weight. (Lucky for me I hardly drink any).

But I was told by my doctor not to weigh myself every day, coz then you get really uptight about your weight, and at different times of day you can weigh different too! I weighed myself last Thursday and haven't since.


well it depends on your attitude....I'm not obsessed about my weight and i won't get too serious about it because imo i still look good :o i only have to loose a bit and it just makes me happy to see that my work is paying off!

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:28 PM
well it depends on your attitude....I'm not obsessed about my weight and i won't get too serious about it because imo i still look good :o i only have to loose a bit and it just makes me happy to see that my work is paying off!

Fair enough - as long as you are happy with what you are doing, then I guess it doesn't matter! :D I just feel better with the cycling and trying to eat better, but I have a bit of weight to lose - unlike you - so I think maybe weighing myself every day wouldn't help me so much!

Martian Mel
May 20th, 2003, 02:29 PM
By the way....I've heard that it won't work if you only excercise for like 10-20 minutes a day....because your muscles need about 10-20 minutes to warm up so you don't burn any calories in that amount of time...but im not sure if it's true though...

Martian Mel
May 20th, 2003, 02:32 PM
anyway i have to cycle my 20 k now...hehe and i'll include situps in my work out because yeah i wantt to have a flat stomach too....the good thing is that i have a lot of willpower to do this...Because 20 ks is quite far if you have a hangover or whatever but i always do it and if i skipp it when im sick i'll just do 40k the next day!:)

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:33 PM
Hmm - the doctor told me you should do over 15 mins at a time or else it's not burning as much, but any exercise is using energy, and so helping to burn fat! I do 40 mins a day, but in two lots of 20 mins, and the doctor said that's fine! :D

DutchieGirl
May 20th, 2003, 02:35 PM
anyway i have to cycle my 20 k now...hehe and i'll include situps in my work out because yeah i wantt to have a flat stomach too....the good thing is that i have a lot of willpower to do this...Because 20 ks is quite far if you have a hangover or whatever but i always do it and if i skipp it when im sick i'll just do 40k the next day!:)
Have fun! ;)

I'm thinking about going back to aerobics once a week when I get back from Europe (figured there's not much point starting it now coz I leave in under 5 weeks).

AjdeNate!
May 20th, 2003, 02:53 PM
I took the dog for a walk today (before) work for about 20 mins. And I have drank and filled and drank again a 20 oz water 4 times.

AjdeNate!
May 20th, 2003, 03:01 PM
....and it's only 10am :o

Kanji
May 20th, 2003, 03:06 PM
I'm proud to tell everyone that I have begun my third week of working out last Sunday. :D

Everything goes well so far, so maybe I'll see some results this time...

Martian Mel
May 20th, 2003, 03:45 PM
Keep it up !!!:)

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:55 PM
hmm I dunno about women being "allowed" to be more emotional eaters. I think it's kinda not an expectation as such, but it's something that everyone just take for granted - that women eat more when they are emotional. I don't think it's a good thing because it leads to weight fluctuations, which aren't good either. But of course, not all women are like that - everyone's different.

lol fat chance of it being less busy at work - my boss is trying to sell more and more, and he expetcs us to do everything by ourselves in the evening! pff It's OK for him, coz he has someone working with him in the day! :rolleyes:

I meant, women are more 'allowed' to express their emotions and deal with them -- at least, that's the norm in the US.

:rolleyes: at your boss. Well, I hope you can make it work anyway.

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 04:57 PM
that is a bad suggestion IMHO! You need some carbs in your diet - just living on fruit and veg isn't good! Any diet that tells you to cut out major food groups (ie meat and such) is not a good diet. You need to eat balanced, not cut out half of the food groups! What about dairy, and meat is a good source of iron! Plus 2 hours of swimming a day with aerobics or whatever else is way too much! He doesn't wanna be a pro athlete! :eek: The best way to lose weight is to look at your eating patterns and exercise pattersn and make them more healthy. You should only aim to lose 1-2 kilos a week, or else you could be harming your body (I have read up on this, and also studied it in high school).

Totally and completely agree.

Good luck, Stacey!! :) You can do it :)

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 05:00 PM
Well i've been trying to loose some weight lately and it is paying off!This is what i do.....

Looks like you have a good plan. Fruit is a great idea to replace candy, because it has natural sugar that you crave. I don't drink very much so its never been a problem for me, but you're completely right about it. Its not called a beer belly for nothing ;)

TennisHack
May 20th, 2003, 05:06 PM
Seles, I admire your water-drinking ;)

I've never heard anything about the amount of time you exercise, really; mostly, its just as long as you do something, you're working to burn off those calories. My routine takes about an hour and I do it 3 times a week. The two days between were for rest last year but this year they will probably have some tennis in them :) Im looking forward to it.

Keep up the good work, guys!! I wish you all the best of luck :)

BK4ever
May 20th, 2003, 05:40 PM
Very happy to see this thread as I'm obsessed, not so much with my weight but how I feel...

First I want to say that water is great for you, but their is such a thing as too much water...I know of someone who died of drinking too much water...it did something to their liver or kidney...not sure...

I think the key to losing weight or even just staying healthy is to have "balance"

I've also found success in eating smaller meals...I usually eat five or six times a day...I find that eating more regularly helps my metabolism work better...

A typical day for me is:
Breakfast 7am - egg whites, turkey bacon and fruit
Snack 10am - yogurt
Lunch 1pm - baby spinach with mushrooms tomatoes, beans and lite dressing/fruit
Snack 4pm - Luna Bar/fruit
Dinner 7pm - steamed spinach, grilled chicken breast(sometimes a 1/2 cup homemade soup)
Snack 10pm - frozen fruit -go to bed no less than an hour later

I drink at least 8 glasses of water a day...thus I have beautiful clear skin...

I also love to make smoothies with soy protein for breakfast...

I exercise six days a week...at least 30 mins, but usually more...

Since I discovered Pilates and Yoga...I have a whole new body interms of posture, definition and length...

I think everyones body is different and we just have to find whats best for us...but simply remember to have everything in moderation...

Mrs Guga...girl u need to stay away from all those eggs(especially if its not egg whites) your cholesterol will be sky high :)

decemberlove
May 20th, 2003, 07:24 PM
Very happy to see this thread as I'm obsessed, not so much with my weight but how I feel...

First I want to say that water is great for you, but their is such a thing as too much water...I know of someone who died of drinking too much water...it did something to their liver or kidney...not sure...

I think the key to losing weight or even just staying healthy is to have "balance"

I've also found success in eating smaller meals...I usually eat five or six times a day...I find that eating more regularly helps my metabolism work better...

A typical day for me is:
Breakfast 7am - egg whites, turkey bacon and fruit
Snack 10am - yogurt
Lunch 1pm - baby spinach with mushrooms tomatoes, beans and lite dressing/fruit
Snack 4pm - Luna Bar/fruit
Dinner 7pm - steamed spinach, grilled chicken breast(sometimes a 1/2 cup homemade soup)
Snack 10pm - frozen fruit -go to bed no less than an hour later

I drink at least 8 glasses of water a day...thus I have beautiful clear skin...

I also love to make smoothies with soy protein for breakfast...

I exercise six days a week...at least 30 mins, but usually more...

Since I discovered Pilates and Yoga...I have a whole new body interms of posture, definition and length...

I think everyones body is different and we just have to find whats best for us...but simply remember to have everything in moderation...

Mrs Guga...girl u need to stay away from all those eggs(especially if its not egg whites) your cholesterol will be sky high :)


i respect you for being so healthy... i dont think i could ever do what you do. lol. ick @ that food. but i do agree that eating smaller meals helps curb that horrible hunger towards the night.

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 07:43 PM
lol. same thing happens here. my friend usually gets pissed off at me cos i cant return forehand but my backhand rips her to pieces.

well it doesnt necessarily make you look taller... but it makes you look less bulky... making you look skinny and strong... so i guess less bulk will make you look slightly taller. plus, it really helps with posture. i made my psycho meathead male friend try it one day and he was whining for two days straight afterwards.

Are you left handed?! I am-- I was always the same way, except I have a forehand now, and I am so happy! And with that, I do have to say, the racket is always heavy at the start and you always overhit the ball, but then you ease into things and playing tennis is not so difficult anymore--just fun. Do you have a Dokic-like backhand?!

Gonzo Hates Me!
May 20th, 2003, 07:46 PM
Mrs Guga...girl u need to stay away from all those eggs(especially if its not egg whites) your cholesterol will be sky high :)

But I cook it a variety of ways, and always have my omelette Nigerian style, with so many veggies. I am so hopeless. I don't know what to think of eggs because there are so many inconsistent studies about them.

proteus
May 20th, 2003, 11:10 PM
In reply to several posts,

Sugar is a form of carbohydrate. The refined sugar you add to tea, for instance, is a simple carbohydrate, whereas starches contained in things like bread, pasta, potatoes are complex carbohydrates. The terms refer to the structure (carbon and hydrogen atom quantity and arrangement), but the important thing from a dietary point of view is that the (simple!) sugars pass into the blood stream very quickly, stimulating the release of insulin which removes it to maintain homeostasis, and it gets stored as fat; also you feel less energetic. With complex carbohydrates, the digestive process breaks it up into simpler sugars as well, but these get released into the bloodstream in smaller quantities over a longer period of time and invokes none of the responses listed for sugar above. Yes, you can cut out refined sugar from your diet in total; No, you can't cut out carbohydrates totally from your diet, this is because of requirements of your brain i.t.o. energy source. The last point is just one reason why protein-only diets are bad for you; avoid these, it's not worth it. Your meals should mainly consist of complex carbohydrates (this is not difficult, in many cultures it consists of rice, pasta, ...) and of course you shouldn't avoid the simpler sugars contained in fruits, since fruit contains essential vitamins and minerals. The same goes for vegetables, eat them!

It is not "quite simple to cut out meats from your diet". All protein sources aren't equal. The building blocks of proteins are amino-acids; you eat the proteins, your body breaks it up into component amino-acids, then re-assembles the amino-acids into the proteins that your body needs, for your immune system, for example. In general plant sources of protein are not "complete", that is, they don't contain all "essential" amino-acids: those select (30-odd, if memory serves me correctly) amino acids from which any other amino-acid, and so protein, can be manufactured. All meats are complete proteins. Vegetarians have to combine "complementary" protein sources: for instance grains and legumes (beans on toast, lentils on rice, ...) so that the amino-acids complement each other, i.e. what the one source lacks, the other supplies.
Also, iron is big issue, especially for women, who lose a lot once a month. Green leafy vegetables are a source of iron, but plant sources are not as good a source as red-meat: the iron is less concentrated and more difficult for the body to absorb (it's not in the form of haem-). However, there is a workaround here too; the (plant-)iron is easier to absorb when combined with vitamin C; so have an orange for dessert after eating spinach and broccoli.

Martian Stacey
May 20th, 2003, 11:26 PM
Good luck with it Stacey! :D We can encourage each other! :D

Thanks Sarah! :D

I'm not going to get much time to do anything today, i have to stay back late at TAFE till 5:30pm, so i can't go walking or anything :( I'll have to wait till tomorrow.

I even made my own lunch today so i won't be tempted to spend money on fatty foods at lunch time ;)

Martian Stacey
May 20th, 2003, 11:28 PM
yeah, if you aren't eating much meat, then it's ok to have more eggs, but you should try to eat a bit more meat if you can.

Maybe with the exercise - you have to find something you like to do. I started cycling, and now I don't mind cycling each day because I put my exercise bike in front of the tv, and I can cycle while watching MTV or my fave tv show, and so it doesn't make it so bad. If you could find something like that to do, then it might help you enjoy it more! :D

Thats exactly what i do :) I do exercises while i'm watching tv or listening to music so i don't get so bored ;) :D

Martian Stacey
May 20th, 2003, 11:30 PM
Well i've been trying to loose some weight lately and it is paying off!This is what i do.....

I work 8 hours a day at an icecreamfactory...My rule is....i won't eat icecream at work.. (i always did it because it's so fucking yummi...esp. ben & jerry )

I drink water during coffee breaks and only have a dietcoke during the mealbreak

No more fastfood during the mealbreak...i'll have some sandwiches...and a cup a soup.

I don't eat any candy whatsoever at home...i only eat fruit when im hungry before dinner.

Im a veggie so i don't eat any meat at dinner...i do eat lots of veggies and i try to cut down the fat sauce like ketchup and stuff

I have a hometrainer and i cycle 20 km a day!

Well this is some of the things i do and it is working!
I also check my weight everyday to get more motivated (it really motivates you when you see that you lost weight and it motivated you even more if you see that you didn't lost some after a while because then you'll try even harder..atleast i will..)

The golden rule is= not too much alcohol...Alcohol has so many calories
I was drinking a lot when i was in oz and i gained 10kilos in two months...i stopped drinking for two weeks and lost 5 kilos!!

Well i still do drink but only in the weekends! :angel:

Good luck everybody!

Hey Mel! :wavey:

Glad that thats all working for you :)

Martian Stacey
May 20th, 2003, 11:35 PM
Totally and completely agree.

Good luck, Stacey!! :) You can do it :)
Thank you :)

TennisHack
May 21st, 2003, 01:21 AM
In reply to several posts,

Thanks, proteus :worship::worship::worship:

DutchieGirl
May 21st, 2003, 11:58 AM
i disagree with the sugar comment. you can most definitely cut out all processed sugar from your diet and still be fine. all carbohydrates have natural sugars and these are sufficient to supply the body with the right amount of 'crose' it needs. even if you never used white sugar, honey, carbinado sugars, fructose or sucrose, you'd still get enough natural sugars in fruits, rice, potatoes, and all tubular/root vegetables. matter of fact it's better for you. the use of synthetically processed sugars is the cause of much obesity. how do you think our forebears were able to go about without feeling faint before these sugars were processed? :)
oh yes - that's true... I was thinking you meant cut out all sugar...forgetting that of course alot of fruits have natural sugar in them! ;)

DutchieGirl
May 21st, 2003, 12:03 PM
i'm sorry in that i wasn't clear about my suggestion being only for a two week detoxifying treatment. any diet that you begin is most successful when you also include detoxification.

vegetarians are very aware that it is quite simple to cut out meats from your diet. proteins are found in soy, beans, nuts and various forms of glutens. i'm not saying that vegetarianism is the way. i'm only saying that it is a farce to think that only meats provide proteins. plant proteins are not only devoid of cholesterol, it's also easier on the digestive tract. iron is found in green leafy vegetable in extreme abundance as well.

lol...i realize he doesn't want to be an olympic athlete...perhaps i overdid it for most. however, swimming being so low-impact, and the fact that you can go at your own pace, using four different types of strokes, gives you an idea of how gradual it is. :)oh... you only meant for two weeks? Then it's not so bad. And I was just using cutting out meat as an example - that de-tox you suggested also cut out dairy. I do understand that meat isn't the only source of protein - my mum's a vego, as is Crazy Melis, who stayed with me in Jan (and another friend staying then was also a vego - god that was fun) ;) :p I could never go on a diet that told me to cut out meat. I don't eat that much meat, but I like some chicken or beef at least a couple of times a week! Yeah, I still think 2 hours of swimming is alot even if you are going at your own pace - as you get fitter you should naturally start swimmin faster anyway. I've found that with cycling too, as you get used to cycling one speed for a certain amount of kms, you can increase the kms, and up the tempo a bit! :D

DutchieGirl
May 21st, 2003, 12:15 PM
Well done Stacey for making your own lunch! :D It's good to do that!

God I'm so bloody hungry right now! :fiery: I'm trying to tell my stomach to shut up. I can't handle any more water today - I've been to the toilet enough! ;)

I am under my "limit" for fat today, but I'm very close to my "limit" with kilojoules (calories). :sad:

I had juice and two pieces of plain bread for brekky, a milky bar for a snack, pasta with tomato sauce for lunch, a banana as a snack. Dinner was rice with 4 veg, and I let myself have a Tim Tam (chokky biscuit) after dinner coz I was still very far below my fat limit. I had another piece of bread after that, and I'm still hungry! :eek:

Maybe it's because I also cycled 25kms today and was walking around Melbourne for about an hour and a half! (shopping, so not 1.5 hours straight of course). It sucks coz I'm not a big fruit lover and I don't wanna have some fruit. Plus grapes aren't in season now, and they are one of the fruits I love! :fiery: Think I'll go hungry till tomorrow morning!

Martian Stacey
May 21st, 2003, 01:22 PM
yeah i was pretty good a lunch today ;) Sometimes after lunch on wednesdays, we get an ice cream, full of chocolate :drool: :lick: but i was good, i didn't buy one :) hehe i just ate my apple instead ;)

Dinner is sometimes a bit of a problem, i have to try and eat more veggies and less of the fatty stuff :p

Going to try and go walking for an hour tomorrow seeing as i've got the day off :)

TennisHack
May 21st, 2003, 06:31 PM
Hang in there, inkyfan, and keep trying to drink as much as you can -- just keep sipping ;) Have you ever considered raw veggies as a snack? Or perhaps some sort of fruit-sweetened food?

My exercise plans have been waylaid by all the damn rain :( so I'm trying to watch what I eat in the meantime. I'm dreaming of a green apple but waiting until I get hungry enough to eat it ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
May 21st, 2003, 06:33 PM
I work out at home, gym, run and box.

I'm slimmer than i was, a little way to go but i'm getting there :)

I no longer eat crisps etc, i have some biscuits with tea and the odd choccy bar when i feel i have deserved it. I eat plenty of chicken and fish (which is top drawer for any healthy diet)

Stacey's idea of excercise whilst TV is on etc is a great one :)

DutchieGirl
May 22nd, 2003, 06:28 AM
I work out at home, gym, run and box.

I'm slimmer than i was, a little way to go but i'm getting there :)

I no longer eat crisps etc, i have some biscuits with tea and the odd choccy bar when i feel i have deserved it. I eat plenty of chicken and fish (which is top drawer for any healthy diet)

Stacey's idea of excercise whilst TV is on etc is a great one :)

*cough* that was my idea - stacey just said she also does it *cough* ;)

DutchieGirl
May 22nd, 2003, 06:31 AM
Hang in there, inkyfan, and keep trying to drink as much as you can -- just keep sipping ;) Have you ever considered raw veggies as a snack? Or perhaps some sort of fruit-sweetened food?

My exercise plans have been waylaid by all the damn rain :( so I'm trying to watch what I eat in the meantime. I'm dreaming of a green apple but waiting until I get hungry enough to eat it ;)Thanks. My problem is I'm not really into fruit. Veggies are fine (but I prefer cooked), so I really struggle to have at least 2 pieces of fruit a day (sometimes I even have to include a glass of juice as a piece of fruit). Drinking water is OK, but my bladder can't handle it all the time. I have to go to the loo every 30 mins if I drink too much! That gets a bit :o! ;)

Martian Stacey
May 22nd, 2003, 06:37 AM
*cough* that was my idea - stacey just said she also does it *cough* ;)
lmao! ;)

DutchieGirl
May 22nd, 2003, 07:04 AM
lmao! ;)

:p I'm gonna sue you for stealing my idea and getting credit for it...oh you say we're NOT in America? ;) oh well! :p

Martian Stacey
May 22nd, 2003, 07:42 AM
haha :p

TennisHack
May 22nd, 2003, 05:30 PM
Thanks. My problem is I'm not really into fruit. Veggies are fine (but I prefer cooked), so I really struggle to have at least 2 pieces of fruit a day (sometimes I even have to include a glass of juice as a piece of fruit). Drinking water is OK, but my bladder can't handle it all the time. I have to go to the loo every 30 mins if I drink too much! That gets a bit :o! ;)

Well, as you said yourself, your body will eventually adjust to the new intake of water ;)

I don't know about Australia, but in the US there is such a thing as food sweetened by fruit juices. Its kinda hard to find but a good substitute for refined stuff.

Drinking juice counts, and its not bad for you (if you're drinking mostly juice and not mostly corn syrup), so don't feel bad about counting it instead of an actual piece of fruit. Fruit also contains fiber, so if you have that base covered I guess it isn't so bad to not eat much fruit :)

DutchieGirl
May 23rd, 2003, 02:27 AM
Well, as you said yourself, your body will eventually adjust to the new intake of water ;)

I don't know about Australia, but in the US there is such a thing as food sweetened by fruit juices. Its kinda hard to find but a good substitute for refined stuff.

Drinking juice counts, and its not bad for you (if you're drinking mostly juice and not mostly corn syrup), so don't feel bad about counting it instead of an actual piece of fruit. Fruit also contains fiber, so if you have that base covered I guess it isn't so bad to not eat much fruit :)

I've never heard about food sweetened with fruit juices...but I've cut out most of the refined sugar in my diet anyway, so I don't think I'll need that.

oh, I don't get the "syrup" crap juices, I get the fresh juices! :D It's great coz one company puts out all sorts of weird and wonderful flavours (apple and stawberry, apple and mango, apple and passionfruit etc) it's great, coz I just get 1 litre every three days or so, and change the flavour each time! :D I think I do OK for fibre, so it shouldn't be too much problem if I'm not always eating so much fruit.

Now I just have to figure out what the hell I'm taking to work today! ;)

Sam L
May 23rd, 2003, 02:32 AM
Hi guys, I've been getting up early (6 a.m.) - that's early for me, the last couple days and jogging and stuff. OMG! believe me I don't need to force myself to drink water anymore. I need to drink water. So yeah that's a good thing and I haven't beeing drinking coffee either. Hmm...

Still, I can't force myself to have a big breakfast yet. And I'm still having a big dinner. :o I don't know why, I enjoy my dinners more than breakfast or lunch and that's when I want to eat more, and I know I shouldn't do that. :o

Now I just have to figure out what the hell I'm taking to work today!

I'm at work now, I've brought a salad (boring!) and an orange (this is like chips compared to the salad!) ;)

TennisHack
May 23rd, 2003, 04:09 AM
oh, I don't get the "syrup" crap juices, I get the fresh juices! :D It's great coz one company puts out all sorts of weird and wonderful flavours (apple and stawberry, apple and mango, apple and passionfruit etc) it's great, coz I just get 1 litre every three days or so, and change the flavour each time! :D I think I do OK for fibre, so it shouldn't be too much problem if I'm not always eating so much fruit.

Corn syrup, unfortunately, is in almost everything here :( One of my more devestating moments was discovering corn syrup in Powerade and not being able to find Gatorade (which doesn't have corn syrup, thank God) after a long session of tennis. You really have to watch for it here and that's rather pathetic :(

Those juices sound really good :lick: I envy you ;)

TennisHack
May 23rd, 2003, 04:15 AM
Still, I can't force myself to have a big breakfast yet. And I'm still having a big dinner. :o I don't know why, I enjoy my dinners more than breakfast or lunch and that's when I want to eat more, and I know I shouldn't do that. :o

I can't eat breakfast either, it makes me sick. Just the way I'm wired, I suppose. I don't think it's a bad thing to eat a large dinner, as long as the things you're eating aren't bad for you. It's hard to change your biology.

I love oranges! They're starting to go out of season here, though :(

Congrats on starting your early-morning jogging! I started tennis today. I don't think I could exercise very early in the morning, it always tires me out, especially when I begin.

SerialKiller#69
May 23rd, 2003, 07:07 AM
after a week of dieting, your metabolism slows down. so once a week or two, you need to eat more to make your metabolism work again.

BritneySpearsIsHot
May 23rd, 2003, 11:44 AM
*cough* that was my idea - stacey just said she also does it *cough* ;)

lol, oops ;) :confused: whoever's idea it was, was a goodun ;)

DutchieGirl
May 23rd, 2003, 02:45 PM
Sam, tennishack - I hear ya with the big brekky thing. I also can't eat a big brekky. I'm usually pushing it to have juice and two bits of bread! I keep saying to myself I'm gonna try to have some cereal, but I never can! (I took a plain roll, a banana and a fun size Mars to work) ;)

:o I didn't realise Powerade had corn syrup in it - I have that sometimes when I'm cycling - but not a big amount of it. A 600ml bottle lasts me at least two days, so I think it's not too bad, coz the only other things I drink are water and the juice. Pity I don't like Gatorade much, or else I'd start getting that instead of Powerade. But really, there's only one flavour powerade I like (the blue - mountain blast).

I think I'm doing pretty well so far. I've been cycling 25kms a day for a week (was doing 10-20kms the couple of weeks before this week), and I've been limiting myself to one "bad" food a day: either a fun size Mars bar, or a freddo frog and it seems to be working! :D I'm making sure I get enough carbo's though, because otherwise I feel like I have no energy, so I try to have some pasta each day and at least 3 slices of bread/rolls (over brekky and lunch).

I've really been watching the fat content too. In my book it says 25% is the max amount of fat you should have compared to kjs (which works out that if you are eating 7500kjs a day then you can have 50gms fat. I've been trying for 7000kjs and 35gms fat, but the last few days I have even been under 30gms fat! :eek: (coz I'm trying to cut out the margarine when I have bread - that's just about killing me though) ;).

DutchieGirl
May 23rd, 2003, 02:48 PM
oh, and for the Aussies: if you want an icy-pole can I reccommend Tropical Frosty Fruits. They have no fat and are only 340kjs. :D (OK, so they have some refined sugar, but hey, they also have 35% real fruit juice - and nothing's perfect) ;).

Martian Mel
May 23rd, 2003, 02:57 PM
Good job Sarah!Keep it up!:)

TennisHack
May 23rd, 2003, 08:03 PM
:o I didn't realise Powerade had corn syrup in it - I have that sometimes when I'm cycling - but not a big amount of it. A 600ml bottle lasts me at least two days, so I think it's not too bad, coz the only other things I drink are water and the juice. Pity I don't like Gatorade much, or else I'd start getting that instead of Powerade. But really, there's only one flavour powerade I like (the blue - mountain blast).

My friends like Powerade but I prefer Gatorade; one day after tennis I had already gulped down 32 oz of water and was still thirsty, so I was off in search. I was standing in line reading the label when I spotted the corn syrup :( Later I was able to find the Gatorade, which is kept in a different part of the store. Powerade didn't do much for me, though some of that was probably knowing I was ingesting corn syrup ;)

If I eat a lot in the morning, I'm hungrier during the day, and I eat more, so that's another reason why I don't eat breakfast.

:o I don't usually start full-fledge into my exercise regime until after Roland Garros. Its my favorite tournament, so I take a little holiday to watch the coverage and scores online. So I'm easing into it all; I'll be playing tennis twice a week and going to the gym the other three days.

Keep up the good work, though!! Sounds like everyone's heading in the right direction :)

DutchieGirl
May 24th, 2003, 01:20 AM
Good job Sarah!Keep it up!:)

Thanks! :D

DutchieGirl
May 24th, 2003, 01:23 AM
My friends like Powerade but I prefer Gatorade; one day after tennis I had already gulped down 32 oz of water and was still thirsty, so I was off in search. I was standing in line reading the label when I spotted the corn syrup :( Later I was able to find the Gatorade, which is kept in a different part of the store. Powerade didn't do much for me, though some of that was probably knowing I was ingesting corn syrup ;)

If I eat a lot in the morning, I'm hungrier during the day, and I eat more, so that's another reason why I don't eat breakfast.

:o I don't usually start full-fledge into my exercise regime until after Roland Garros. Its my favorite tournament, so I take a little holiday to watch the coverage and scores online. So I'm easing into it all; I'll be playing tennis twice a week and going to the gym the other three days.

Keep up the good work, though!! Sounds like everyone's heading in the right direction :)

hehe well, you're allowed a little break! ;)

tomorrow's gonna be a "bad" day exercise wise, because I'm staying at a friends house tonight, and tomorrow we are going to the basketball (to watch), and then when I get back I'll have to go to work, so I don't think I'm gonna get much exercise done! But I've got a few rolls, so I'll just take them and some water, and at least I'll still be eating healthy! :D

Martian Stacey
May 24th, 2003, 01:28 AM
lol, i was a bit slack yesterday :o its hard to do exercise when you have class all day, you just don't feel like doing anything when you get home

DutchieGirl
May 24th, 2003, 01:30 AM
lol yeah I know that feeling Stacey! ;)

Martian Stacey
May 24th, 2003, 01:32 AM
yeah, plus i had a bit of junk food when i got home :rolleyes: i'm going to eat better today though, and if i have time in between doing TAFE homework, i'll try to do some exercise :)

Rtael
May 24th, 2003, 04:48 AM
lalalala..... *gets out the water and starts gulping it down) I do 250 of three different arm exercises everyday (I skip somedays, if I play tennis!) and 100 of another arm exercise, with two five pound weights....yeah I'm a weakling!.....25 sit ups, 200 stomach crunches (I dunno if I'm doing it wrong, but they seem to hurt my neck, well recently they have even though they didn't before!) and I strengthen my calf muscles by rising up to my tip toes and then going back down like maybe 25 times then doing it and holding it for 25 seconds!

Sam L
May 25th, 2003, 12:24 AM
Rtael, if your neck is hurting you're doing something wrong, get help.

I ran for about an hour yesterday morning. Ouch! I'm totally feeling it now. :( But today is sunday so I might do some light exercises again so I get in a pattern at least.

TennisHack
May 31st, 2003, 03:34 AM
So how is everyone doing?

:o I've been sitting on my ass all week, watching tennis, following scores here, and maintaining my website. And I'm making a red velvet cake tomorrow in honor of Roland Garros, my favorite tournament :o :o :o

Aerien
May 31st, 2003, 08:25 AM
I also decided to lose weight.

I lost seven pounds in five days.
Am now on my second week and so far, 10 pounds have dropped.

I think my body is about to hit a plateau darn it. :o

Sam L
Jun 1st, 2003, 11:32 PM
So how is everyone doing?

:o I've been sitting on my ass all week, watching tennis, following scores here, and maintaining my website. And I'm making a red velvet cake tomorrow in honor of Roland Garros, my favorite tournament :o :o :o
I've been busy moving house so I haven't done much plus I've been ordering pizzas too often. LOL! But everything is settled now so I'll be back on track soon. I hope.

The good thing about my new place is I have to walk about 15 minutes to the station every day so that's 30 minutes of walking everyday already. :)

Aerien, it's not good to lose weight so suddenly, but if it works for you, good. Sometimes, it can come back on too quickly.

DutchieGirl
Jun 2nd, 2003, 12:49 AM
I've lost about 4 kilos in 2.5 weeks! :D I'm happy with it. Still haven't eaten any fast food since I started and I'm only having a fun sized mars bar (or something like it) a day IF I feel I have to (some days I haven't had one). I haven't eaten any chips ( :eek: ) which I'm surprised at because I used to absolutely LOVE chips!

I'm still cycling 25kms a day too, and I bought a skipping rope (but it's a bit short) :fiery: ;)

Martian Stacey
Jun 2nd, 2003, 06:35 AM
lol, i've been lazy recently :o ;) i'm going to have to work out some sort of schedule and stick to it ;)

Aerien
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:19 AM
I've been busy moving house so I haven't done much plus I've been ordering pizzas too often. LOL! But everything is settled now so I'll be back on track soon. I hope.

The good thing about my new place is I have to walk about 15 minutes to the station every day so that's 30 minutes of walking everyday already. :)

Aerien, it's not good to lose weight so suddenly, but if it works for you, good. Sometimes, it can come back on too quickly.

Don't I know it. :sad:
I'm fluctuating back and forth, gaining 2 pounds, losing it, gaining it again. @-@
Have to take dieting more seriously.

SM
Jun 2nd, 2003, 07:43 AM
reading this thread and all you motivated ppl has gotten me back in the mood to eat better and maybe start to exercise again. i went gym 2+ times/week for eons but stopped suddenly in january! lazy lazy lazy...

all i do is eat junk every day and no exercise but havent gained hadly any but i want the shape back how it was...




ive eaten healthy for two days now ;)

Sam L
Jun 2nd, 2003, 11:15 PM
Aerien, make sure you don't drop your weight too suddenly, it has to be gradual process. I know that much, you might want to seek some advice in that matter.

Hey Stevo! :wavey: When I was in uni, I didn't have the motivation to study let alone exercise. LOL! ;)

GBFH
Jun 2nd, 2003, 11:20 PM
I'm far too lazy to go through this whole thread...but can someone give me some tips on how to work out my thighs and lower stomach? Those by far are the toughest...and this one exercise where you cross your ankles and lift your legs and ass off the floor...it's nice for my stomach, but kills my back. I need a new exercise. Please help!

Sam L
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:47 AM
GBFH, I'm not sure what you're talking about. But I do one exercise where you lie straight on your back and lift your legs to a 45 degree angle off the ground. It's really good for the lower stomach.

*Wondering what to eat for lunch aside from boring salad*

GBFH
Jun 4th, 2003, 02:52 AM
yeah, that's the exercise I'm talking about...and I hate it, it makes my back hurt! I need a different one for my lower stomach :sad:

Salad is yummy...or maybe I'm hungry

Sam L
Jun 4th, 2003, 04:32 AM
i'm telling you guys you should swim more...seriously. i just did a whole bunch of laps non-stop. no pressure, no impact...and it feels great!
Hi DD :) Nice thought and good for you but I can't swim. At all!

DutchieGirl
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:14 PM
I prefer cycling to swimming! Chlorine is shit for my hair. (And I am NOT wearing a swimming cap! ugh. I do like swimming though, maybe when I lose a bit more weight I'll start going once a week. When I get back from Europe I'm gonna go back to aerobics once a week if I can work it in with my work schedule. (No point starting now, coz I leave for Europe in 3.5 weeks). Until then I'll just cycle every day.

I cycled 50kms today! :eek:

SM
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:38 PM
ive eaten well for a few days now and am feeling better physically with more nrg etc..as for exercise im going to increase the amount im currently doing = none with slight increments each week! lazy ;)

has any1 tried the new diet vanilla coke? its lush! :) i can actually drink a diet drink without wanting to regurgitate..LOL

DutchieGirl
Jun 4th, 2003, 12:52 PM
There's diet vanilla coke now? whaaaaaaaaa! A treat for me once a week then if I can find it! :D

SM
Jun 4th, 2003, 01:08 PM
I cant notice the difference b'ween regular vanilla coke and diet version...its slight :) and only 1.7 kj/100 ml sarah i just checked the bottle here on my desk so i dont know why you would label it as a 'treat'? *puzzled*

DutchieGirl
Jun 4th, 2003, 01:13 PM
because I've cut out all soft drinks from my diet! But vanilla coke was my fave, and so if there is a diet vanilla coke, then I can have it once a week as a treat! :D (Don't wanna have it too often or else I might go back onto the full strength stuff)! ;)

TennisHack
Jun 4th, 2003, 06:19 PM
I can't swim, either :o I'll stick to tennis and gym work, which will start next week.

Inkyfan, diet Vanilla Coke has been out here in the States for awhile. It is pretty good, but if I was going to drink cola I'd go for the regular thing.

lakeway11
Jun 4th, 2003, 08:00 PM
just so people know there is controversey over the use of aspartame as a sweetner:
http://www.dorway.com

lakeway11
Jun 4th, 2003, 08:02 PM
lol, i've been lazy recently :o ;) i'm going to have to work out some sort of schedule and stick to it ;)

u mean u r getting lazy like Marri:eek:

DutchieGirl
Jun 4th, 2003, 11:04 PM
I can't swim, either :o I'll stick to tennis and gym work, which will start next week.

Inkyfan, diet Vanilla Coke has been out here in the States for awhile. It is pretty good, but if I was going to drink cola I'd go for the regular thing.

yeah well, we didin't have diet vanilla coke here yet. I haven't seen it in my state. But I guess if it's in NSW, we'll have it soon. Plus my shop should sell it! :D

Martian Mel
Jun 4th, 2003, 11:40 PM
Sarah what the hell are you drinking??I mean you don't have to be that hard on yourself..I mean i also cut out the coke...but i still have some every day..maybe 1-2 glasses....first i had like 8 glasses a day :eek: and dietcoke isn't that bad at all you know!
Anyway i'm proud of you!keep it up!Btw how long does it takes you to cycle 50 km ?? :eek:

propi
Jun 4th, 2003, 11:41 PM
:wavey:
I should lose a bit of weigh too but I'm so lazzy :o
Good luck to all :bounce:

Martian Mel
Jun 4th, 2003, 11:42 PM
thanks propi! :)

propi
Jun 4th, 2003, 11:43 PM
thanks propi! :)
You're welcome, maybe I will join as well
*looks at his belly*
:o

Martian Mel
Jun 4th, 2003, 11:48 PM
lmao :o

well it's almost summer here so i just need to loose a few kilos. I'm just changing my bad eating habbits.And it's paying off!And working out every day definatly makes me feel better!:)

Martian Stacey
Jun 5th, 2003, 12:26 AM
u mean u r getting lazy like Marri:eek:
lol, i think i was always lazy :p

but i actually did some exercise yesterday, so i'm getting back on track ;) :D

TennisHack
Jun 5th, 2003, 12:50 AM
yeah well, we didin't have diet vanilla coke here yet. I haven't seen it in my state. But I guess if it's in NSW, we'll have it soon. Plus my shop should sell it! :D

Well, I hope it comes soon, sounds like you're a big fan ;)

Anybody know how many calories emotional turmoil burns up? I probably lost a few years on my life following Ferrero's quarterfinal match today :p

Sam L
Jun 5th, 2003, 11:23 PM
Well, I hope it comes soon, sounds like you're a big fan ;)

Anybody know how many calories emotional turmoil burns up? I probably lost a few years on my life following Ferrero's quarterfinal match today :p
I will suffer that come Saturday night for the women's final! :eek:

Martian Mel
Jun 8th, 2003, 10:46 PM
*bump*

DutchieGirl
Jun 9th, 2003, 01:35 AM
Sarah what the hell are you drinking??I mean you don't have to be that hard on yourself..I mean i also cut out the coke...but i still have some every day..maybe 1-2 glasses....first i had like 8 glasses a day :eek: and dietcoke isn't that bad at all you know!
Anyway i'm proud of you!keep it up!Btw how long does it takes you to cycle 50 km ?? :eek:

What am I drinking? I drink juice in the morning with brekky, and then just water! But I did find some diet vanilla coke, so I got a bottle of that! :D hmm, it usually takes me 50mins-1hour to cycle 30kms, so I guess it took me about 1.5 hours to cycle 50kms (but I did it in three lots, not all at once). ;)

DutchieGirl
Jun 9th, 2003, 01:37 AM
Well, I hope it comes soon, sounds like you're a big fan ;)

Anybody know how many calories emotional turmoil burns up? I probably lost a few years on my life following Ferrero's quarterfinal match today :p
haha I guess it depends what you do when you feel emotional turmoil! ;)

Well, I'm off to cycle!

TennisHack
Jun 9th, 2003, 03:11 AM
haha I guess it depends what you do when you feel emotional turmoil! ;)

I suffer! ;) I don't eat, so I suppose that's good.

Today I was so happy about Juan Carlos's win that I did, in my excitement, eat a large amount of grapes. I guess I'm on the right track. Now that RG is over I'll be stepping up my exercise program.

I'm glad you found your diet vanilla coke :)

irma
Jun 9th, 2003, 08:04 AM
I should go on a diet too but I need chips once in a while :o

and cheesecookies :lick:

forget the exercise :o

Martian Mel
Jun 9th, 2003, 01:52 PM
What am I drinking? I drink juice in the morning with brekky, and then just water! But I did find some diet vanilla coke, so I got a bottle of that! :D hmm, it usually takes me 50mins-1hour to cycle 30kms, so I guess it took me about 1.5 hours to cycle 50kms (but I did it in three lots, not all at once). ;)

Oh i thought so hehe well good job anyway!!I have different levels on my excercise bike so i cycle 20 km a day...i'm allready on level 2 and i will start with level 3 (it's like you riding on a fucking mountain hehe)
I can see how many calories i burn and you burn about 450 with 20 km on level 2 :bounce: That's quite a lot imo!
I also made a promise to myself...I can only drink once a week except when there is a really special thing going on...than i can drink twice a week :o Because alcohol isn't that good when you're trying to loose some weight!Well good luck to everybody!!!

:kiss:

DutchieGirl
Jun 9th, 2003, 02:29 PM
I suffer! ;) I don't eat, so I suppose that's good.

Today I was so happy about Juan Carlos's win that I did, in my excitement, eat a large amount of grapes. I guess I'm on the right track. Now that RG is over I'll be stepping up my exercise program.

I'm glad you found your diet vanilla coke :)

ooh! A large amount of grapes! tsk tsk! How naughty of you! ;) :p Wish I could find some bloody seedless grapes here! They are out of season and it's shitting me no end! :fiery: I'm getting sick of banana's! ;)

DutchieGirl
Jun 9th, 2003, 02:32 PM
I should go on a diet too but I need chips once in a while :o

and cheesecookies :lick:

forget the exercise :o

I've surprised myself actually! I used to eat chips all the time. Plus at work I'm around lollies and junk food all day, but since I started exercising, I really haven't felt like eating much junk! I haven't had a packet of chips for about a month! :o I'm quite proud of that, and I've only had fast food twice in that time too! :D

I used to hate exercise as well, but now I don't mind it. Cycling when you are watching your fave show isn't that bad! ;)

DutchieGirl
Jun 9th, 2003, 02:36 PM
Oh i thought so hehe well good job anyway!!I have different levels on my excercise bike so i cycle 20 km a day...i'm allready on level 2 and i will start with level 3 (it's like you riding on a fucking mountain hehe)
I can see how many calories i burn and you burn about 450 with 20 km on level 2 :bounce: That's quite a lot imo!
I also made a promise to myself...I can only drink once a week except when there is a really special thing going on...than i can drink twice a week :o Because alcohol isn't that good when you're trying to loose some weight!Well good luck to everybody!!!

:kiss:

hmm my bike doesn't have "levels". It just has a knob that you can turn to make the cycling harder or easier. I've been turning it a bit harder every couple of days when I feel I'm getting used to that level. Plus I've upped my daily target from 25kms to 30kms! :D (Today I only did 27.5kms :o ) Your level 3 sounds quite hard though! ;)

See, I'm lucky that I don't drink alot of alcohol. It does have alot of calroies in it (only fat has more calories than alcohol). So it's good that you'll only drink once a week! :D

TennisHack
Jun 11th, 2003, 12:21 AM
ooh! A large amount of grapes! tsk tsk! How naughty of you! ;) :p Wish I could find some bloody seedless grapes here! They are out of season and it's shitting me no end! :fiery: I'm getting sick of banana's! ;)

LMAO, I meant instead of something else, like chips or candy :p Sometimes when I am excited, I do eat.

Grapes are just coming in season here, how lucky for me :) Grapes and strawberries, yum yum. My other favorite fruit, oranges, are going out of season. I can't eat too many bananas, they make me sick after a short while.

You and MeliS :worship: with the cycling. I know what you mean about when you exercise, you want to eat better. To me, it's like -- if I'm going to do all this work, why undo it all with junk food? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Right now I'm still just working on my tennis. A tip, for those of you in very hot climates in summer: eat protein before going out in the sun (especially to exercise) and you won't get heatsick. A few pieces of cheese is enough, maybe some sort of meat if you like meat. It really does make a world of difference. That's why I like going to the gym, where I can exercise in air conditioning! :D

Sam L
Jun 16th, 2003, 03:50 AM
OMG, I've gained about 5 kg guys, and winter has only started. I hate winters :fiery:

Funny thing is I'm actually exercising a bit. I get lazy on the weekends but on weekdays I'm keeping it up. Hopefully it's muscle? :confused: :(

TennisHack
Jun 16th, 2003, 05:39 AM
If you are doing strength training exercises then you will gain muscle at the same time that you lose fat. What sort of exercising are you doing? Just jogging? You're building up your endurance but you'd probably have to jog a helluva long way to burn a lot of calories.

How's your food intake?

Just in case you just need some cheering on: http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1035927406.gifhttp://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1035927406.gifhttp://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1035927406.gif You can do it! :) http://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1035927406.gifhttp://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1035927406.gifhttp://www.smilies.org/basesmilies3/1035927406.gif

I haven't weighed myself since we started this thread, but I've changed my eating habits some and am playing tennis at least twice a week in the sweltering sun, so I guess I'm doing okay :)

Sam L
Jun 16th, 2003, 05:54 AM
Hi TennisHack,

I'm usually (5 times a week):

Jogging about 30 minutes in the afternoon with about 15 minutes of skipping. 5 minutes of push-ups; 5 mintues of sit-ups; 5 minutes of that exercise where you lie on the ground and lift both your legs up to 45 degrees.

I have some bread and tea for breakfast and just a salad for lunch, but for dinner like pasta or some other big meal.

I haven't actually weighed myself for about a month, because I wanted to stop obsessing over it but now I've gained weight. :(

Sam L
Jun 16th, 2003, 05:55 AM
Also thanks for the cheering! ;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 16th, 2003, 05:59 AM
Sam, I've lost about 5 pounds. :)

TennisHack
Jun 16th, 2003, 06:12 AM
Hi TennisHack,

I'm usually (5 times a week):

Jogging about 30 minutes in the afternoon with about 15 minutes of skipping. 5 minutes of push-ups; 5 mintues of sit-ups; 5 minutes of that exercise where you lie on the ground and lift both your legs up to 45 degrees.

I have some bread and tea for breakfast and just a salad for lunch, but for dinner like pasta or some other big meal.

I haven't actually weighed myself for about a month, because I wanted to stop obsessing over it but now I've gained weight. :(

You're welcome for the cheering :) Okay, I'd say from the sound of it you're adding muscle as well as endurance. Last summer I went on a real exercise kick myself, and initially I lost weight but then I kept maintaining and maintaining -- and eventually found myself much stronger than before I started.

Muscle is heavier than fat, so if your jogging or other exercises are getting easier, that's a sign of added strength and to up your resistence! :)

TennisHack
Jun 16th, 2003, 06:14 AM
Oh, and I should add: eat protein before you go out to avoid heatsickness (not a problem, I'm sure, but just a general tip), and also, start lengthening your sessions of exercises. That will help with the resistence issue and also will help in general :)

propi
Jun 16th, 2003, 07:41 AM
:wavey:
Hi all!!
I see some of you are having a nice progression! Congrats for that!! Now I should really think about doing some exercise...........
I just want to point out something I heard the other day, it's not about what to eat but when eating it, a nutricionist told it's better if you do heavier meals before 8 p.m. at night, the reason was that apparently what you eat after that time (approximately I guess) is what you won't burn that day as you'll probably be sleeping.
I thought about that and it's truly logical, at least seems so....

TennisHack
Jun 17th, 2003, 12:33 AM
Just a note: if the board disappears again (or for good), and you'd still like to carry on this thread, you all are welcome to join http://thetenniscult.mirrorz.com

Sam L
Jun 23rd, 2003, 02:20 AM
Tennishack, yeah I've found that the exercises are getting easier especially the sit-ups and push-ups. Jogging is normal for me, I've been doing it for a long time. But I was worried cause normally when I start to jog regularly I lose weight immediately.

Anyway thanks. At least I've now stopped gaining weight. :o

TennisHack
Jul 4th, 2003, 04:24 AM
How's everyone doing? :)

I'm starting to incorporate yoga into my routine. Lots of emotional turmoil thanks to the tennis ;) and I need some flexibility for my own game.

SM
Jul 4th, 2003, 11:34 AM
sam if i ate what u ate and did what u do i would be skeletal steve...lately ive goneback to my pizza and maccas and no exercise but i havent gained, just not as toned as id like but i just bought a weights set...and theres a beach down the road so i may as well use it and go for beach runs again :)

SM
Jul 4th, 2003, 11:38 AM
well last week i drank alot but there were two big occassions for me and i had no choice, and the thing is when i drink i can eat everything and anything...ie friday i stopped off at a pizza shop had half a pizza , then dropped past maccas and had 2 cheese burgers +1 big mac + 6 nuggets+ large choc sundae, then when i got home i had alarge hawain pizza and was still hungry albeit tired so i went to sleep!! a bad mix alcohol + food? ;)

SM
Jul 4th, 2003, 11:38 AM
that occured between 3-4am :o

Sam L
Jul 10th, 2003, 06:14 AM
Hey steve and everyone. How u all doin?

Looks like I was wrong. I actually lost weight, I had clothes (I mean heavy clothes, it's winter here) when I weighed myself last. :o

But it's always good to be pleasantly surprised. ;)

spudrsca
Jul 10th, 2003, 10:30 AM
I began in the beginning of May to do some exercises in a fitness center for 2 months, the first day, 20 mins of rowling, 20 minutes of stairmaster and 20 minutes of cycling, the second day 25 minutes of rowling and the same time of stairmasters and cycling.
After one week, 30 minutes of rowling and 30 minutes of rowling.
At the end I decided to only do rowling 50-60 minutes.
In the same time, i drink a lot less coke and eating sugars.
I've lost 8kgs.
I've stopped end of June. But a relative of mine has a rowler machine and will give it soon, I think I will do 30 minutes in the morning and 30 minutes in the evening.

I feel a lot better when I do sports.
When I was in high school, I was very sportive and had a great endurance but when I went in University, I was doing a lot less sports and was eating too much junk foods without forgetting beers :lol:

TennisHack
Jul 10th, 2003, 07:00 PM
I've plateaued. I have the opposite problem of you: it's summer here, and so fucking hot it's hardly worth it to go outside. I play tennis twice a week, but haven't really noticed any changes, weight-wise or endurance/strength-wise. July is just depressing.

Viva
Jul 11th, 2003, 07:41 AM
I just couldn't be bothered to get on the treadmill and go for a run. I sit watching the TV and go - hrmmm I could be on that treadmill right now - but then continue sitting and six months later I regret not doing it because I'm not toned and yet I still don't do it.

Strange...

King Satan
Jul 11th, 2003, 07:52 AM
i haven't worked out in a couple of weeks now. mainly because i've been sick (bad cold). I've lost about 20 pounds since last year. just from playing bball :) so i have to get back at it starting tomorrow.

viva, get your cute butt up and do some running girl! :)

Sam L
Jul 15th, 2003, 05:25 AM
th...now's the time to not give up. when you plateau. keep it at. i know july's depressing but when you plateau is the time to really kick in with working out and eating right. that'll knock you off your plateau so you can continue on to your goal. don't give up! :D
Thanks, I think I have plateaued too but I'm still keeping up with it. Only once a week, I'd go to a restaurant with friends and have anything I want but this usually isn't anything bad anyway since I'm vegetarian. I just eat a lot then. LOL!

Viva, I'd love to have a treadmill infront of the TV. Oh my, the hours I can put in for my favourite movies AND exercise. But at stage, I think running on outside is better for me cause I can run on hills and that's better for exercise.

Viva
Jul 15th, 2003, 05:52 AM
Thanks, I think I have plateaued too but I'm still keeping up with it. Only once a week, I'd go to a restaurant with friends and have anything I want but this usually isn't anything bad anyway since I'm vegetarian. I just eat a lot then. LOL!

Viva, I'd love to have a treadmill infront of the TV. Oh my, the hours I can put in for my favourite movies AND exercise. But at stage, I think running on outside is better for me cause I can run on hills and that's better for exercise.

Yeh running up hills and stuff is heaps better - I did that for a while - until I tripped on my shoelace and landed on the concrete footpath. Scrapped my hands, elbows, knees. Bruised my hips and knees and strained my neck. Now I'm too scared! :eek: So I've given that up. hehe... I was so embarressed, not to mention sore!

Also in a month the magpies start attacking... eep!

irma
Jul 15th, 2003, 05:54 AM
I am still fat

Martian Mel
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:34 AM
I am still fat

Do something about it!

King Satan
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:36 AM
Do something about it!
lol

:kiss:

SerialKiller#69
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:02 PM
i have a question. i know this may sound paranoid but is it possible that i can gain weight by drinking too much water? will water slow down metabolism?

Sam L
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:10 PM
i have a question. i know this may sound paranoid but is it possible that i can gain weight by drinking too much water? will water slow down metabolism?
Water can only be good for you. You can never get enough water. In fact, you need water to exercise a lot.

irma, don't give up and have a positive outlook on things. I have felt that many times too, not just about weight but other things. Stick with a program and I promise you it'll happen.

SerialKiller#69
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:15 PM
what if i've just taken a heavy meal and then drank lots of water immediately after that.like a liter of water. will it comparatively slow down my metabolism after?

Sam L
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:22 PM
what if i've just taken a heavy meal and then drank lots of water immediately after that.like a liter of water. will it comparatively slow down my metabolism after?
Well firstly never drink lots of water immediately after a meal. I usually drink very early in the morning (first thing in the morning) OR between breakfast and lunch and between lunch and dinner. The latter also ensures that you don't take snacks between the big meals.

irma
Jul 18th, 2003, 12:37 PM
Do something about it!

nah I am too lazy too go to the gym. now I have "job" I have to cycle an hour many days of the week. that's enough;)

and sam I am on a program, that has nothing to do with my weight but still irrational thoughts play a part;)

SM
Jul 18th, 2003, 01:37 PM
well ive gone from doing no exercise for a while to slowly doing more...im doing 2-3 beach runs per week, sit-ups atleast twice/week, and tennis every second day

i still eat so much food ...i dont even know fat people who can match me :o (no offence)...but im happy that my weight is where i wantit :)

selesfan1
Oct 9th, 2003, 08:46 PM
Anyone follow through on their goals? THe summer came and went and I did nothing to loose weight or get healthier. I might as well just get huge and then maybe my parets would support me.

Sam L
Oct 9th, 2003, 11:35 PM
Anyone follow through on their goals? THe summer came and went and I did nothing to loose weight or get healthier. I might as well just get huge and then maybe my parets would support me.
I did. I didn't gain a single kilo during this winter. Probably the first time. And now I've just joined a gym so hopefully I carry this through the summer. :)

Sam L
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:16 AM
Bump!

Summer's approaching so it's easier have to light salads now. :) And lots of fruit juices. :)

Gowza
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:27 AM
i've only recently just joined a gym but rather than lose weight i'm trying to gain weight. i'm male 18 and only 58kg. my current goal is 60kg. but what's tough is i'm a tennis player so i want to keep my flexibility, endurance, speed and athleticism but i also want to get stronger and bulk up. which means i'm doing at least 50 mins of cardio everytime i hit the gym which is about 3-4 times a week and considering i've never done proper cario workouts before i don't know how that particular part of my program will effect my weight. i think i might cut out a bit of cardio and add more weights.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:32 AM
I hate all you people trying to gain weight :mad:

Perhaps I could propose a 'weight swap' over the internet? I think I have some weight here I could donate to a good cause ;)

Gowza
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:34 AM
but when i say i want to gain weight i want to gain it in muscle.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:36 AM
but when i say i want to gain weight i want to gain it in muscle.

muscle, fat, bone...it's all on sale here :D

spooky
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:46 AM
O.K. people please tell me what I am doing wrong here since we are talking about diets. This is what I usually almost everyday.
I must breakfast. Here's what my breakfast consist of:

1 cup of all brand cereal
1/2 banana, 1 cup skim milk
1 bottle of water.

snack: fruit and a yorgurt

Lunch:
Salada and chicken or vegeies and chicken
Water or Ice tea
Snack: Fruit

Dinner:
Fish, chicken, or steak with vegeies
1 slice of 40 calorie whole wheat toast or 1/2 cup of rice
water and fruit

I work out on my tread mill for an 1hr. 40min. four times a week on the max. incline of 12. 1hr. 40. is 6.5 miles

Now here's the big surprise in doing all of the above everyweek I get on the scale I gain weight. That is so frustrating I do not know what to do. PLEASE HELP ME. What am I doing wrong. One more thing sometimes for breakfast I would switch to 1/2 a bagel 1/2 teaspoon of low cal cream cheese and a cup of tea with a piece of fruit and a bottle of water. I really consider the above to be eating healthy but it ain't doing crap for my weight lost.

Sam L
Oct 15th, 2003, 01:46 AM
i've only recently just joined a gym but rather than lose weight i'm trying to gain weight. i'm male 18 and only 58kg. my current goal is 60kg. but what's tough is i'm a tennis player so i want to keep my flexibility, endurance, speed and athleticism but i also want to get stronger and bulk up. which means i'm doing at least 50 mins of cardio everytime i hit the gym which is about 3-4 times a week and considering i've never done proper cario workouts before i don't know how that particular part of my program will effect my weight. i think i might cut out a bit of cardio and add more weights.
Do you me asking which gym? I'm in Sydney too and just joined a gym.

I'm not fitness trainer, but I would also recommend cutting cardio and doing weights, but not too much cause you're still growing.

I'm 23, and weigh about 63kg and I mostly do cardio (actually I never do weights) because my main goals are fitness, lower body fat % etc...

You should see a personal trainer and work out a plan for you to do. I go to gym about 5-6 days a week but I don't spend that long there, about 1.5 hours.

Gowza
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:07 AM
when i joined up i got them doing things like blood pressure tests and body fat tests. i have 9% body fat. they made my program up based on what i said. i do about 40-50 mins cardio and only about 20 mins at most on weights. i have 2 on legs, 1 on lats, 2 on pecs and one on my traps. i want to do more work with my biceps and triceps and get my arms a bit stronger and bigger. i'm also doing flexibility but i might cut that out and do it at home when i have time because all it is is stretching. i also do a bit of abs.

i joined millenium at waitara right near the station.

SerialKiller#69
Oct 15th, 2003, 02:49 AM
I gained about 15 pounds after stopping my diet and fitness program after 2 months. Now, I'll commit again and expect to lose 15 by two weeks.

DutchieGirl
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:09 AM
:wavey:
Hi all!!
I see some of you are having a nice progression! Congrats for that!! Now I should really think about doing some exercise...........
I just want to point out something I heard the other day, it's not about what to eat but when eating it, a nutricionist told it's better if you do heavier meals before 8 p.m. at night, the reason was that apparently what you eat after that time (approximately I guess) is what you won't burn that day as you'll probably be sleeping.
I thought about that and it's truly logical, at least seems so....

But I guess that also depends on when you sleep right? I mean my day is about 4 hours different from everyone else probably. I mean I get up around 10:30am, and I work until 10pm in the evening so I don't usually eat dinner until 10:30pm, but then I don't go to bed until 2am or so (and I often will cycle after dinner anyway! ;)

btw, it's nice to see this thread again - when I came back from holiday I couldn't find it!

DutchieGirl
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:12 AM
How's everyone doing? :)

I'm starting to incorporate yoga into my routine. Lots of emotional turmoil thanks to the tennis ;) and I need some flexibility for my own game.

How is yoga? What do you actually do there? I was thinking about doing yoga or pilates once a week, but I'm not even sure exactly what you have to do! I know you do some felxibility stuff, but anything else or?

DutchieGirl
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:20 AM
I've been a bit bad the last month and a half. When I got back from holiday I'd lost 7 kilos since I started cycling and watching what I ate. But in the month after I got back, I went back to my old routine - eating whatever, whenever and I put back on 3-4 kilos, but in the last couple of weeks I've started cycling again! ;) I'm hoping to lose at least 12-13 kilos by the end of this year. ;) (That's gonna be interesting - don't think I'll get there, but I'll try. There is only like 11 weeks left in the year.) ;)

TennisHack
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:44 AM
Aggggh, winter is approaching for us in the Northern hemisphere! ;) That means my body is starting to absolutely crave carbs.

By the end of my summer (August) my tennis fitness was pretty good :) I never got a chance to do yoga -- but I would recommend getting a beginning video or joining a class if you want to start yoga or pilates. It's very good for you -- I just never had the time :(

When I started back to uni I cut all breads from my diet (not all carbs, just breads) and I lost a little weight. But of course, now that it's getting cold my body wants something to keep it warm, so slowly but surely the breads are finding their way back in . . . I've also been making a conscious effort to eat more fruit, and some veggies at every meal to combat my yen for breads.

Crazy Canuck
Oct 15th, 2003, 03:48 AM
I'm going to start going to the gym again.... I biked most of the summer, so I'm pretty in shape anyways, but am starting to lose it. But I havent' the first idea what to do at a gym.... last time I used to go I just did cardio, then would come home and lift light freeweights.... should I be doing more? :confused:

Gowza
Oct 15th, 2003, 05:04 AM
Crazy Canuck, i'm not an expert but most girls i know do mostly cardio, do some light weights on the machines, do some ab work and some flexibility.

SM
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:36 AM
""I'm 23, and weigh about 63kg and I mostly do cardio (actually I never do weights) because my main goals are fitness, lower body fat % etc...""

try the body pump classes sam! they are the quickest way to burn fat IMO, and also add shape to your entire and i mean entire body...light weights are very effective

narcissus boy
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:39 AM
Is this a good way of losing weight?

- Playing tennis for 4 hours a day.
- 4 laxative pills every 2 days.
- 1 meal of an apple, glass of water, and a nutri-grain bar every 2 days.

Thank.

SM
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:43 AM
narcissus boy, that is a sure fire way to GAIN weight. It is yo-yo dieting..

your metabolism will slow down due to a lack of food and u'll pile it on when you start to eat normally. you should go for something that is sustainable..

cutting the fat and sugar content is vital, but i think most importantly watch your portion sizes and dont eat beyond when you feel full. make sure you eat more in the earlier stages of the day than the latter and drink plenty of water. IN A NUTSHELL

narcissus boy
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:45 AM
So, it's bad to eat a whole pizza at 11 PM at night?

SM
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:47 AM
also in addition to eating more earlier in the day ie breakfast make sure your having ur carbs at this time.

you may want to try something like porridge which is filling and has low gi, for breaky..

narcissus boy
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:49 AM
I can't eat breakfast, because I throw it up. If I eat alot of carbs in the morning, will I have energy after school to play tennis at 3 PM?

SM
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:50 AM
narcissus boy it depends ont he person. i sometimes eat much more than a large pizza at night but i dont gain weight, or very little....but generally abstain from fatty food and carbs like pizza at night time .haha

SM
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:51 AM
well do u have bulemia? if so...i think you should seek help outside this message board

try asking daniella hantuchova lol

narcissus boy
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:52 AM
Daniela Hantuchova is my role model. Thank.

Crazy Canuck
Oct 15th, 2003, 06:54 AM
SM - any chance you can tell me how to do squats? :p

Gowza
Oct 15th, 2003, 07:09 AM
carbs are in cereal, and any sort of bread so things like toast, fruit, pasta, rice, noodles, starchy vegtables like corn or potato, legumes, cereal bars, breakfast bars and muslie bars, sweet dairy foods like smoothies and flavoured yogurt and pancakes and scones (foods made with flour).

there is quite a range of foods that contain carbs that are normal breakfast foods.

breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

SerialKiller#69
Oct 15th, 2003, 08:06 AM
Narcissus boy, I hope you're just joking about Daniela being your idol. The scary thing is I've heard you say it in other threads too. Please,for the sake of your health, take care of your body better. Daniela's physique,as we all know, is unsightly at the moment (or the last time I checked).

SM
Oct 15th, 2003, 10:38 AM
crazy canuck go to the gym and ask for a personal trainer then tell them that "i have no f*** clue how to do a squat".
they will be glad to assist.

DutchieGirl
Oct 16th, 2003, 12:27 AM
carbs are in cereal, and any sort of bread so things like toast, fruit, pasta, rice, noodles, starchy vegtables like corn or potato, legumes, cereal bars, breakfast bars and muslie bars, sweet dairy foods like smoothies and flavoured yogurt and pancakes and scones (foods made with flour).

there is quite a range of foods that contain carbs that are normal breakfast foods.

breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

fruit is a carb? First time I EVER heard that! :eek: And I wouldn't exactly call pancakes and scones "carbs either because they have more fat and sugar in them than they would carbs!

Plus, yes, brekky is important, but not everyone can handle brekky! I've had problems with eating it for at least half my life (12 years)! I never have a big breakfast if I do eat something - it'l usually just a glass of juice, or a couple of pieces of toast, and that's not usually until midday! I just can't stomach food when I get up!

¤CharlDa¤
Oct 16th, 2003, 01:10 AM
Well Im new here but all i want to sa yis that today I ran my ass off for phys ed and I ran 3 km in 12 minutes :D

And then i played one hour of curling...I like to diversify my level of activity ;)

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2003, 01:17 AM
when i joined up i got them doing things like blood pressure tests and body fat tests. i have 9% body fat. they made my program up based on what i said. i do about 40-50 mins cardio and only about 20 mins at most on weights. i have 2 on legs, 1 on lats, 2 on pecs and one on my traps. i want to do more work with my biceps and triceps and get my arms a bit stronger and bigger. i'm also doing flexibility but i might cut that out and do it at home when i have time because all it is is stretching. i also do a bit of abs.

i joined millenium at waitara right near the station.
I haven't met up with my trainer yet. I only asked which gym you joined cause there's a lot of "Fitness First" gyms now and that's where I joined. :)

I do most cardio 1 hour a day for about 6 days a week and stomach crunches. I suppose that's the only weights I do.

Hey Stevo! :wavey: Once I saw my personal trainer, I might start doing light weights. Right now I wouldn't know where to begin.

In my gym, we have Pilates classes, I might give that a try too.

Oh btw, lol I haven't weighed myself lately and I did today and I found I lost 2kg. I don't want to lose weight. :o But maybe it's improved my body fat %. Which I haven't measured so far, I should.

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2003, 01:19 AM
I'm going to start going to the gym again.... I biked most of the summer, so I'm pretty in shape anyways, but am starting to lose it. But I havent' the first idea what to do at a gym.... last time I used to go I just did cardio, then would come home and lift light freeweights.... should I be doing more? :confused:
Hey Rebecca, that's what I do mostly too. I think if you're happy with it it's ok. But wouldn't hurt to do some lightweights too I guess.

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2003, 01:22 AM
fruit is a carb? First time I EVER heard that! :eek: And I wouldn't exactly call pancakes and scones "carbs either because they have more fat and sugar in them than they would carbs!

Plus, yes, brekky is important, but not everyone can handle brekky! I've had problems with eating it for at least half my life (12 years)! I never have a big breakfast if I do eat something - it'l usually just a glass of juice, or a couple of pieces of toast, and that's not usually until midday! I just can't stomach food when I get up!
Hey! :)

Fruit is carb, apparently but not heavy carb like breads and pasta.

I know what you mean about breakfast. In the last few months, I've become a heavy breakfast eater. I now eat 3 weetbix (with soy milk), toast and a cup of Milo. I used to eat nothing (or coffee!) :o I've totally cut out coffee now.

And the key is having a big brekky and an even bigger lunch, and go slow on the dinner. I eat half of the dinners I used to eat and DEFINITELY no snacking late at night. It'll do wonders for you. :)

SM
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:07 AM
"fruit is a carb? First time I EVER heard that! And I wouldn't exactly call pancakes and scones "carbs either because they have more fat and sugar in them than they would carbs!"

To be technical both sugar and fat are carbs.

Sugar is a simple carbohydrate and you should eat as little of this as possible as it doesnt contain much nutrients. Fat is a carb b/c it also is high in energy, the reason fat is fattening is it has high kilojoules. tHATS to my limited knowledge on this topic anyway. lol.im no nutritionist

Ballbuster
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:22 AM
SM - any chance you can tell me how to do squats? :p


Simply place your feet shoulder with apart. place the bar across the back of your shoulders (not on top) squat down as if you are sitting in a chair and explode up to the top. Do not lock your knees, do not round your back, preferably wear a belt. Find a spot on the wall (preferably upward and concentrate on it). Good luck kiddie.

Its the most powerful exercise in the gym most people fail at it.

alexusjonesfan
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:23 AM
Fruits have simple carbs (like sugars) which are used easily by your body to produce energy. Grains for Pastas and Breads have complex carbs (like starches) which is the way plants store evergy (they're denser and have more energy per unit)...they're the one's that are harder for your body to break down.

Fats are not carbs. They're a whole different chemical group altogether (they also store energy but are only burned after you've burned your carbs etc). Btw, you can't really get away with ignoring a whole group of nutrients because each fulfills different purposes in the body which is why diets which promote eating only protein and fats and skipping carbs completely (or any other diet which makes you take out a nutrient) baffle me...

X-Lurker
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:39 AM
O.K. people please tell me what I am doing wrong here since we are talking about diets. This is what I usually almost everyday.
I must breakfast. Here's what my breakfast consist of:

1 cup of all brand cereal
1/2 banana, 1 cup skim milk
1 bottle of water.

snack: fruit and a yorgurt

Lunch:
Salada and chicken or vegeies and chicken
Water or Ice tea
Snack: Fruit

Dinner:
Fish, chicken, or steak with vegeies
1 slice of 40 calorie whole wheat toast or 1/2 cup of rice
water and fruit


Weight gain is attributable to consuming more calories than you burn off. You have meat at lunch and dinner, you're going to have to have smaller portions (I know, this sucks).

Try eating slower. You'll feel fuller after having consumed less food. Cut your food up into smaller pieces, chew it 20+ times etc. Overweight people eat faster than thin people.

Some people will boo this... but diet soda is a very effective appetite control tool. It has no calories but is more filling than water (it's gassy). It also reduces cravings for sweets. Anorexics live off the stuff. Drink a small bottle an hour before mealtime and you won't feel as hungry.

BTW Believe it or not you might be eating too much fruit. Fruit has a lot of sugar in it and nobody really knows everything that it does to peoples' metabolisms. I'm not saying don't eat fruit, I just don't know what portions you're having.

narcissus boy
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:42 AM
Have a laxative diet and don't eat for 2 weeks, you'll lose alot of weight. Yay.

X-Lurker
Oct 16th, 2003, 03:49 AM
O.K. people please tell me what I am doing wrong here since we are talking about diets.

I work out on my tread mill for an 1hr. 40min. four times a week on the max. incline of 12. 1hr. 40. is 6.5 miles

Now here's the big surprise in doing all of the above everyweek I get on the scale I gain weight. That is so frustrating I do not know what to do. PLEASE HELP ME. What am I doing wrong.

"I work out four times a week..."

NO. That is your main problem. You need to exercise every day.

To get leaner you want to do more reps at lighter weights...so lose the max incline on your treadmill. By walking uphill you're telling your body you want bigger, stronger legs and buttocks. Then you're taking rest days in which your body converts food into body mass. You're doing almost exactly what you would want to do to gain weight.

WALKING: Try and work two 20+ minute walks into your schedule (wear good shoes). Avid walkers are never overweight.

The key is constant repetitive activity, not relatively short bursts of exertion, followed by rest periods.

Ease into any new activity, don't make dramatic changes.

Sam L
Oct 16th, 2003, 04:05 AM
"I work out four times a week..."

NO. That is your main problem. You need to exercise every day.

To get leaner you want to do more reps at lighter weights...so lose the max incline on your treadmill. By walking uphill you're telling your body you want bigger, stronger legs and buttocks. Then you're taking rest days in which your body converts food into body mass. You're doing almost exactly what you would want to do to gain weight.

WALKING: Try and work two 20+ minute walks into your schedule (wear good shoes). Avid walkers are never overweight.

The key is constant repetitive activity, not relatively short bursts of exertion, followed by rest periods.

Ease into any new activity, don't make dramatic changes.
Good advice. I walk about 40 minutes a day (not for exercise but because I have to; I live in a rather far place from public transport and I don't drive).

Also, yeah I'm trying to go to gym everyday and work out about 1hr, instead of doing more in a day and not working out everyday. Consistency is the key here.

Also, spooky, inclines on treadmills don't work. Lose the incline and go for speed. If you want fitness, go for fast speed/longer periods of time. If you want to lose weight, go for slower speed/even longer periods of time.

DutchieGirl
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:35 AM
"fruit is a carb? First time I EVER heard that! And I wouldn't exactly call pancakes and scones "carbs either because they have more fat and sugar in them than they would carbs!"

To be technical both sugar and fat are carbs.

Sugar is a simple carbohydrate and you should eat as little of this as possible as it doesnt contain much nutrients. Fat is a carb b/c it also is high in energy, the reason fat is fattening is it has high kilojoules. tHATS to my limited knowledge on this topic anyway. lol.im no nutritionist

Actually, I would have said it another way - I would have said that technically carbs and sugars are fats...because if we eats these and don't burn them off, then they are converted to fat and then stored! ;)

DutchieGirl
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:40 AM
Hey! :)

Fruit is carb, apparently but not heavy carb like breads and pasta.

I know what you mean about breakfast. In the last few months, I've become a heavy breakfast eater. I now eat 3 weetbix (with soy milk), toast and a cup of Milo. I used to eat nothing (or coffee!) :o I've totally cut out coffee now.

And the key is having a big brekky and an even bigger lunch, and go slow on the dinner. I eat half of the dinners I used to eat and DEFINITELY no snacking late at night. It'll do wonders for you. :)

I eat 4 "meals" a day. I usually have juice/toast or both for brekky, then some past around 2pm, then I'll take a sandwich and a bit of fruit to work, which I'll usually eat around 6pm, and then I'll eat dinner when I get home at about 10:30pm. It's not perfect, but because of my work hours, I have to do it that way, otherwise I'd eat earlier for dinner. Plus I usually cycle after either brekky or the pasta, and then sometimes after I eat dinner too.

I went to pilates today and I am saying NEVER AGAIN! :lol: Man, we did this thing where you body is like /| and we did it about 10 times...I go so bloody light headed I was dizzy for the rest of the class and thought I was gonna puke...I had to lay down for an hour when I got home to stop everything spinning! :eek: Not good. I think I'll have to stick to aerobics if I wanna do something like that. It's a shame though, coz the class seemed quite interesting, but I don't wanna get dizzy every week! ;)

DutchieGirl
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:42 AM
Fruits have simple carbs (like sugars) which are used easily by your body to produce energy. Grains for Pastas and Breads have complex carbs (like starches) which is the way plants store evergy (they're denser and have more energy per unit)...they're the one's that are harder for your body to break down.

Fats are not carbs. They're a whole different chemical group altogether (they also store energy but are only burned after you've burned your carbs etc). Btw, you can't really get away with ignoring a whole group of nutrients because each fulfills different purposes in the body which is why diets which promote eating only protein and fats and skipping carbs completely (or any other diet which makes you take out a nutrient) baffle me...:lol: I'd never do one of those diets! I can't live without my carbs! ;)

DutchieGirl
Oct 16th, 2003, 07:44 AM
Have a laxative diet and don't eat for 2 weeks, you'll lose alot of weight. Yay.
:rolleyes: We are offering support and HEALTHY choices here... not laxatives or starving yourself! :rolleyes:

F-R-E-A-K
Oct 20th, 2003, 04:59 AM
Ive lost 5kg's!!!! Go me!!!! By January im hoping to lose around 10 more then ill be fine again!! :)

DutchieGirl
Oct 20th, 2003, 06:06 AM
Ive lost 5kg's!!!! Go me!!!! By January im hoping to lose around 10 more then ill be fine again!! :)Hey, that's really cool! Keep it up! :D

I cycled 10kms after lunch, and I'll go to aerobics this evening for an hour! :D Now I just gotta wait for my Dad to come home so we can go shopping and I can actually get some juice and fruit! :lol:

F-R-E-A-K
Oct 20th, 2003, 07:14 AM
Hey, that's really cool! Keep it up! :D

I cycled 10kms after lunch, and I'll go to aerobics this evening for an hour! :D Now I just gotta wait for my Dad to come home so we can go shopping and I can actually get some juice and fruit! :lol:

Koolies :bounce:

I do around 2000 skips daily with 300+ situps and 100+ push ups. I also walk 45mins 3 days a week :p.

:p I now only drink water and juice :D and ive cut back on eating by 1/2 :o Which I hate!!! but it has to be done!! :angel:

LOL :lol: I always have to wait for my folks to get home soo they can go get me more bottles of water and fruit haha :drool:

switz
Oct 20th, 2003, 07:24 AM
Koolies :bounce:

I do around 2000 skips daily with 300+ situps and 100+ push ups. I also walk 45mins 3 days a week :p.

:p I now only drink water and juice :D and ive cut back on eating by 1/2 :o Which I hate!!! but it has to be done!! :angel:

LOL :lol: I always have to wait for my folks to get home soo they can go get me more bottles of water and fruit haha :drool:

that's tough mate. how on earth can you diet like that while doing you're hsc? food was the only thing that got me through all that study. i literally put on about ten kilos after about half way through year twelve because i stopped playing tennis and the rugby season ended. 'luckily' i got self-conscious once i got to uni and i lost it all, and i've managed to stay in shape through all the beer drinking when i was in england.

F-R-E-A-K
Oct 20th, 2003, 07:44 AM
that's tough mate. how on earth can you diet like that while doing you're hsc? food was the only thing that got me through all that study. i literally put on about ten kilos after about half way through year twelve because i stopped playing tennis and the rugby season ended. 'luckily' i got self-conscious once i got to uni and i lost it all, and i've managed to stay in shape through all the beer drinking when i was in england.

I put on around 10-15kgs since the start of yr 12 :D I am the same: I cut down on my 5 day a week training and going to my fitness trainer. I totally just ate anything and everything :fiery:.

:bounce: Until around 1 month ago I was pure lazy. I know it was a bad time to decide to do this ... but ive managed really well :) Ive done the studying and im feeling both mentally and physically fine ... Obviously I have my sore legs, stomach and all that :eek: But its all going to plan :cool:.

:worship: Ill keep this going until New Years and I should be back around the 70-75kg mark :D

F-R-E-A-K
Oct 20th, 2003, 07:51 AM
Daily I now eat:

Breakfast: 1 slice of toast with small glass of Orange Juice.

Lunch: Small salad sandwich and water. (Half size of normal sandwich bread)

Afternoon: Apple :p

Dinner: Small serving of Salad or cooked veggies :rolleyes: Dont eat big dinners.

DRINK DRINK DRINK plenty of WATER :p

I eat well below the recomended meal sizes for my age. :tape:

switz
Oct 20th, 2003, 07:56 AM
Daily I now eat:

Breakfast: 1 slice of toast with small glass of Orange Juice.

Lunch: Small salad sandwich and water. (Half size of normal sandwich bread)

Afternoon: Apple :p

Dinner: Small serving of Salad or cooked veggies :rolleyes: Dont eat big dinners.

DRINK DRINK DRINK plenty of WATER :p

I eat well below the recomended meal sizes for my age. :tape:

even hantuchova would eat more than. i'm guessing you are not doing intense exercise. at our age cutting out junk food is definitely the key. it all just depends on your metabolism and the exercise you're doing after that.

Gowza
Oct 20th, 2003, 08:00 AM
how much and what sort of stuff should i eat for muscle building?

F-R-E-A-K
Oct 20th, 2003, 08:00 AM
My exercise so far is what i said up above:

2000skips daily
300+situps daily
100+pushups daily
2 x 45min walks/ 1 Jog weekly

Im awake now every morning at around 6am :)

jd4eva
Oct 20th, 2003, 08:36 AM
I see there's talk about what the HSC/VCE can do for your weight.

Well I'm in the same boat. I stopped exercising this year and coupled with a bad diet I've also put on around 15 kgs.

Got up from around 60 upto 74 kgs a few weeks back but started exercising daily now and I'm down to 69 kgs. I want to be around 65 by the end of November.

I run anyweher between 1-3 kms a day and it's pretty good.

Anyway I'm off. Nice to know it isn't just me that has put on weight coz of studies.

F-R-E-A-K
Oct 20th, 2003, 08:47 AM
I see there's talk about what the HSC/VCE can do for your weight.

Well I'm in the same boat. I stopped exercising this year and coupled with a bad diet I've also put on around 15 kgs.

Got up from around 60 upto 74 kgs a few weeks back but started exercising daily now and I'm down to 69 kgs. I want to be around 65 by the end of November.

I run anyweher between 1-3 kms a day and it's pretty good.

Anyway I'm off. Nice to know it isn't just me that has put on weight coz of studies.

How tall are you?!

Ive always been around 70-80kgs and thats without being over weight/fat!! :mad: Im like 6'1 :p I could never go below 70 .. that would just be impossible for me... Im too big of a build to go under 70 :rolleyes: