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Car Key Boi
May 14th, 2003, 12:12 AM
good for her

i wish all the players would be more open and say something along the lines of "i can't believe i lost to a player who is a talentless piece of shit"

where is it written that players have to be 'nice' and 'sweet' and 'respectful'?

fuck that, it's all bullshit anyway when yuo see some player in front of a mic gushing pleasantries about a player that's just dumped them out of a tournament

a lot of daddy has rubbed off onto Dokic and she's more interesting because of it

i would rather support someone who's interesting and says what she honestly thinks, unlike the majority of players who's interviews are boring and sterile and utter BULLSHIT

Go the uber-babe! :bounce:

Ra!

- Car Key Boi http://carkeyboi.com/banana.gif

kournikovafan13
May 14th, 2003, 12:15 AM
I think it would be great and hilarious if she said it had she won....but it just shows that she's a pathetic sore loser when she says that shit after she loses.

o0O0o
May 14th, 2003, 12:20 AM
Yea you'll make a lot of friends and get great jobs with that kind of speech. And if you're playing Serena in the first place you are the top 100 in the world at what you do so if Serena called anyone she played talentless than she would be more idiotic than we all thought.

Car Key Boi
May 14th, 2003, 12:26 AM
I think it would be great and hilarious if she said it had she won....but it just shows that she's a pathetic sore loser when she says that shit after she loses.

not true, she says similar stuff even when she wins

what's yuor problem with that? why the fuck does a player have to be respectful? it's a professional game that's played for big bucks

look at boxers, they say all sorts of shit about their opponants even before the bout has commenced, and no-one complains

so why do YUO, piss & moan because a tennis player does it?

- Car Key Boi

Philbo
May 14th, 2003, 12:55 AM
Thats crap CKB - Shes just a classless wench

TS
May 14th, 2003, 01:03 AM
LOL. I'm all for honesty in interviews (I get bored with so many of the pedestrian Q&A's)....but not to that extent.

A little tact wouldn't go astray :p

*JR*
May 14th, 2003, 01:06 AM
not true, she says similar stuff even when she wins

what's yuor problem with that? why the fuck does a player have to be respectful? it's a professional game that's played for big bucks

look at boxers, they say all sorts of shit about their opponants even before the bout has commenced, and no-one complains

so why do YUO, piss & moan because a tennis player does it?

- Car Key Boi
OK, boxing analogy it is. Muhammad Ali: "It ain't bragging if you can do it". Since she became Dani's b!tch last year, the uber-babe has been losing early and often. Sorry, that does NOT do it!

Car Key Boi
May 14th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Thats crap CKB

hey buddy :wavey:

what specifically is crap? and why?

also, have yuo heard the latest about Wacko? Neverland is up for sale just like i predicted some months ago, yuor boi is in financial doggy doo

http://carkeyboi.com/dump/MJmoonwalk.gif

- Car Key Boi :D

Philbo
May 14th, 2003, 01:32 AM
Neverland has been up for sale for a long time I thought????

Anyway, your whole post defending such a loser is crap.

I understand she is hot and you'd like to f_ck her, but as a tennis player and person, she is an A grade LOSER.

Her game is shit, her personality sucks.

Im all for honesty in interviews as well, I hate the cliched interviews, but there is a way to be honest with a bit of tact...

I guess it depends if 'class' is important to you - if its not, you act like Dokic, if class is important you speak like Navratilova, honest and correct without being disrespectful.

Car Key Boi
May 14th, 2003, 01:41 AM
Neverland has been up for sale for a long time I thought????

Anyway, your whole post defending such a loser is crap.

I understand she is hot and you'd like to f_ck her, but as a tennis player and person, she is an A grade LOSER.

Her game is shit, her personality sucks.

Im all for honesty in interviews as well, I hate the cliched interviews, but there is a way to be honest with a bit of tact...

I guess it depends if 'class' is important to you - if its not, you act like Dokic, if class is important you speak like Navratilova, honest and correct without being disrespectful.

Neverland went on the market only a week ago, Wackos being sued left right and center, especially from his former manager and he's in shit creek - Wacko's basically fleeing California and moving to Florida because the state laws are more favorable to persons who are INSOLVENT, especially in regards to siezing property assets

as for Martina, i like her as well, she's had her moments as well, mainly when she was yuonger - i remember the time she was bitching about Mandlikova being seeded higher than her at Wimbledon, and she said some pretty disrespectful things - good for her :)

- Car Key Boi

Crazy Canuck
May 14th, 2003, 02:12 AM
not true, she says similar stuff even when she wins

what's yuor problem with that? why the fuck does a player have to be respectful? it's a professional game that's played for big bucks

look at boxers, they say all sorts of shit about their opponants even before the bout has commenced, and no-one complains

so why do YUO, piss & moan because a tennis player does it?

- Car Key Boi
Because she's a female who isn't acting like a "lady". Although not always, in some cases it's a sexist double standard... I'm surprised that you aren't applauding it, CKB :)

Leena
May 14th, 2003, 02:14 AM
CKB, don't you think Elena Bovina is hot?

I need people to stick up for my girl. :)

switz
May 14th, 2003, 02:21 AM
why are you so obsessed with making bovina out to be a bitch, when from what i have seen of her she seems perfectly nice?

Leena
May 14th, 2003, 02:23 AM
I know... I'm just looking for another Bovina fan. :)

Crazy Canuck
May 14th, 2003, 02:24 AM
why are you so obsessed with making bovina out to be a bitch, when from what i have seen of her she seems perfectly nice?
Since when does "Isn't Bovina hot?" translate into "why are you trying to make her a bitch?"

I'm either missing something, or you're making no sense.

Philbo
May 14th, 2003, 02:26 AM
"- i remember the time she was bitching about Mandlikova being seeded higher than her at Wimbledon, and she said some pretty disrespectful things - good for her"

LOL, and dont you think martina was correct IF she bitched about that?? (you been watching tennis that long???) - How many times did Mandlikova win Wimbledon?? 0?? How many did Martina win?? Oh thats right 9!!! - But yeah, Hana really deserved the top seeding!!!

FTR - I dont even know which year you are referring to, but I wouldnt find that disresectful.

Im not saying Martina has NEVER uttered a disrespectful word - she is human, but in general, she is always classy, eloquent and HONEST and UNCLICHED.

Dokic is, as Ive said, just a pathetic whining loser.

Philbo
May 14th, 2003, 02:28 AM
BTW - Jeez it was sweet last year when Eastbourne bumped Dokic to an outside court so Navratilova could play on centre!!!

Dokic wasnt happy and had her usual cry about it and I loved every minute of it lol, waa waa waa Jelena...

But CKB - Good to see we agree on one thing - Damir has definitely rubbed off on her, you think for the better, I think for the worst.

Zummi
May 14th, 2003, 02:32 AM
as for Martina, i like her as well, she's had her moments as well, mainly when she was yuonger - i remember the time she was bitching about Mandlikova being seeded higher than her at Wimbledon, and she said some pretty disrespectful things - good for her :)

What sorts of "pretty disrespectful things"? I have an article on the 1981 Wimbledon seeding controversy and I haven't found any comment from Martina disrespectful of Hana. Her comments were directed solely at the tournament organizers.

Car Key Boi
May 14th, 2003, 02:39 AM
BTW - Jeez it was sweet last year when Eastbourne bumped Dokic to an outside court so Navratilova could play on centre!!!

Dokic wasnt happy and had her usual cry about it and I loved every minute of it lol, waa waa waa Jelena...

But CKB - Good to see we agree on one thing - Damir has definitely rubbed off on her, you think for the better, I think for the worst.

the uber-babe's daddy-like traits make her more interesting - i like my players to possess a wildness and arrogance about them

Dokic, Serena, Venus, the Capster and even Anna are all more than capable of saying "fuck YUO, bitch", and long may that continue :)

as for 'classy behavoir', yuo can stick it up yuor 'arse' :)

- Car Key Boi

SerialKiller#69
May 14th, 2003, 03:00 AM
dokic always says what she thinks is the truth. that's what i like about her.

Philbo
May 14th, 2003, 03:21 AM
Disclaimer - I think jelena is a classless pathetic, whining, ingrateful homophobic slut.

So do you like how I just said what I thought?

Dawn Marie
May 14th, 2003, 03:31 AM
Dokic states what she thinks. People don't like it. Hingis and Martina Navritilova state what they think and people enjoy that attitude).

personally, I think the Hingis of old is still alot worse then the Dokic of today...AND..The Martina of old is still the Martina of OLD today.;)

Experimentee
May 14th, 2003, 03:49 AM
Its one thing to just talk about your game and say you played bad, but shes just classless to say Conchita played bad and only hit 2 or 3 winners. Some things are just better left unsaid. And its not like Dokic usually has an easy time with Conchita even when she plays well they always have three setters so what she says really isnt the truth.
People whine about Dokic being victimised because of her father and all that but if you look at the things shes said herself you cant blame that on her father. Shes as much to blame for people hating her as anyone else.

Philbo
May 14th, 2003, 04:35 AM
"Dokic states what she thinks. People don't like it. Hingis and Martina Navritilova state what they think and people enjoy that attitude"

Thats true I guess, so I suppose it all comes down to how/what you think.

Dokic 'think's like a 16 year old spoiled brat, prima donna, whining little wench, Navratilova thinks like a mature, competitive, intelligent, well rounded person, says what she thinks and comes off a LOT differently to Dokic.

switz
May 14th, 2003, 04:42 AM
Since when does "Isn't Bovina hot?" translate into "why are you trying to make her a bitch?"

I'm either missing something, or you're making no sense.

i am not talking about that specific statement, but leena always seems to go on about this attitude bovina has that i have never noticed when reading her interviews etc. i also think that leena was trying to draw the comparison between dokic and bovina. i tend to take the fact that leena did not comeback at my statement like you did as a sign that i am not completely off the mark. i don't have a big problem with it or anything, but i just wanted to find out where it was all coming from.

spencercarlos
May 14th, 2003, 04:57 AM
Dokic has to think about it a little better before acutally saying what she said.

"She didn't do very much," said a disappointed Dokic, 20. "I think she's never played worse with me. Of course, I also played my worst. It was as if I was just playing against myself."

Maybe she thinks Conchita´s game is a nightmare to watch and to play against because it makes you to wait till the right short shot from her to hit the winners.
Maybe saying Conchita´s game is boring could sound more apropiate.

But as she said Conchita played bad, and did not have much to do, so if Jelena lost to that BAD player so what can we say of Jelena´s game? WORSE? LOL.

And BTW, i don´t like when people say those remarks after losing matches, there are many styles of play and if the MOONBALLING one is hurting you, so you are going to trash-talking about that particular one or any style, is simply stupid from your part. Get your balls in place, literally, and find the right way to beat them!

Dawn Marie
May 14th, 2003, 04:58 AM
If one goes on about how players are adorable when they speak their mind, they should then except Jelena Dokic and show no bias.;) ( u can't possibly adore one yelling obscenities one minute then tearing down Jelena the next).

Personally I dislike Jelena's attitude anymore.. and I think she needs to shutup and play tennis. Accept defeat...nicely.

SM
May 14th, 2003, 07:54 AM
I like honesty and players to refrain from using the cliques, but as many of you have said Jelena should use a bit more tact especially when shes talking about someone who has achieved much more ie Conchita.

It would be ok if Dokic said she herself sucked and spoke her mind about her own game but saying Conchita did nothing to win is not very respectful.

For people who said jelenas game is shit that is undermining the whole wta tour ranked 10 and below. LOL

slut? she seems to be in an exclusive relnship to me

hot? YES!!!!!!! :drool:

JonBcn
May 14th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Maybe if I was a heterosexual male the prospect of hot young ladies bitching each other might appeal to me too. ;)

I think what we're all missing here is that tennis is a SPORT, and that you should behave sportingly at all times. If someone beats you because you played shit, fine; of course you can say that. But they still outplayed you, and that should be acknowledged.

best best better
May 14th, 2003, 10:54 AM
Dokic has a history of things like this. Anyone remember her comments about Rita Kulti Kis (Oz 2001 I think).

I love it when players talk the talk and speak their minds, but you don't have to disrespect your opponent to do that. Which, imo, Dokic did in this instance.

Iconoclast
May 14th, 2003, 11:18 AM
It was the 2000 Australian Open. Her putdowns aren't as great as they used to be:
The Yugoslav-born Dokic was less elegant in defeat, saying only three or four players in the world could beat her if she were to play as well in matches as she does in practice. Kuti Kis, she said, is not one of them.

"I lost to a player today that, you know, never has been a player and I guess probably never will be," said Dokic, who spoke almost wistfully of her days of anonymity early last year, when the only direction she could go was up.

vutt
May 14th, 2003, 11:51 AM
First of all even I’m her hardcore fan, I do not like her that particular behavior at all, but...

Ironically in both cases mentioned before she was sort of right. Kuti Kis never become real player(contender) and who ever watched this latest Martinez match saw how badly both players actually played.

Leena
May 14th, 2003, 12:34 PM
i am not talking about that specific statement, but leena always seems to go on about this attitude bovina has that i have never noticed when reading her interviews etc. i also think that leena was trying to draw the comparison between dokic and bovina. i tend to take the fact that leena did not comeback at my statement like you did as a sign that i am not completely off the mark. i don't have a big problem with it or anything, but i just wanted to find out where it was all coming from.
Jackass... that's not what I meant in the slightest. When have I ever said Lena was a bitch in interviews? She's outspoken, she speaks her mind, but she's not a bitch.

I was only asking if CKB thought Lena was hot... so he could mindlessly stick up for her, like Jelly and Anna, simply because they give him a boner.

switz
May 14th, 2003, 12:47 PM
ok leena, i am not going to get into one of your arguments here, but wouldn't a lot of dokic fans say that "She's outspoken, she speaks her mind". i thought by you saying the same things in other threads (i don't mean this one specifically) where people accuse players of being rude (maybe bitch was a harsh) that you were saying bovina was like that ie says what she thinks. that is why i was asking because i had never noticed anything controversial in her interviews, and that's why i said i did not have a problem with it if it was the case. i do apologise, but to be honest i think that you exaggerate how outspoken bovina is. anyway, i really do not want to get in a fight because i hardly know her, and you are obviously a dedicated fan, but i will tell you that i do like her.

SerialKiller#69
May 14th, 2003, 01:47 PM
Disclaimer - I think jelena is a classless pathetic, whining, ingrateful homophobic slut.

So do you like how I just said what I thought?

:wavey:

peace bro. i understand why you're outraged.

sartrista7
May 14th, 2003, 03:12 PM
i am not talking about that specific statement, but leena always seems to go on about this attitude bovina has that i have never noticed when reading her interviews etc. i also think that leena was trying to draw the comparison between dokic and bovina. i tend to take the fact that leena did not comeback at my statement like you did as a sign that i am not completely off the mark. i don't have a big problem with it or anything, but i just wanted to find out where it was all coming from.

The confusion may possibly stem from this weird Leena/Lena character-merging thing which seems to happen occasionally.

You don't have to like what Jelena says, or indeed support her at all, to realise that the fact that she does say it makes the WTA a hella lot more interesting. Rather her than Monica being sweet or Kim being boring, anyway.

Leena
May 14th, 2003, 03:14 PM
I am Leena.

Lena is Elena Bovina.

It's not fucking brain surgery... and I've never mentioned myself, or pretended to be her once.

sartrista7
May 14th, 2003, 03:20 PM
Duh, but lots of people here are very stupid. You have similar names, are both tall, and you identify with her. You know how dumb some posters are.

spencercarlos
May 14th, 2003, 03:44 PM
First of all even I’m her hardcore fan, I do not like her that particular behavior at all, but...

Ironically in both cases mentioned before she was sort of right. Kuti Kis never become real player(contender) and who ever watched this latest Martinez match saw how badly both players actually played.
Sorry Vutt btu your comments on that DOkic statement are as stupid as Jelena´s.

Every one out there playing on the tour is a player and should be respected, Jelena is a sore loser.

Thanks god there is a DIVINE justice that a month after that Jelena´s stupid remarks Rita Kuti Kis won Sao Paulo over Paola Suarez on clay.
Yet Kuti Kis was able to beat Jennifer at Rome 2001, also a feat she acomplished before Jelena THE GREAT PLAYER AND CONTENDER? for what for slams? LOL....

Sorry, but Jelena´s bigger win at a slams has not been that impressive, and she is yet to be a contender for a grand slam, yet for me Jelena is a PLAYER.

Maybe Kuti Kis tennis´s abilities don´t make her a contender for the big events, but she is a PLAYER and works her butt on training and all of that stuff.

As for Martinez, yet she plays that patience and tiring (boring for me) game, she knows she has beaten a lot of people playing like that, why she would change? Just because Jelena wants power? LOL. That´s her game it has always been, so bitching about you oponnents BAD play (LOL at that) when you are losing the match, is simply stupid.

Car Key Boi
May 14th, 2003, 05:48 PM
I think what we're all missing here is that tennis is a SPORT, and that you should behave sportingly at all times. If someone beats you because you played shit, fine; of course you can say that. But they still outplayed you, and that should be acknowledged.

no it isn't a sport, the game that i play with my friends is a sport, but professional tennis is a multi-million dollar business and it's ruthless and if yuo wanna succeed, yuo have to be ruthless and arrogant, and as far as i'm concerned, sportsmanship can go hang

my buddy Czechfan has made the comment that Martina is mature and respectful and Dokic is immature blah blah blah - that might be true, but Martina wasn't always 'mature' and respectful blah - when she was Dokic's age she was just as arrogant and yuo HAVE TO BE, it's a quality of a champion, and besides, Dokic is only a yuong babe who's had a poor and disjointed education (no fault of hers) and when she's Martina's age, i'm sure she too would behave with a bit more respect and maturity. But she isn't 41, she's at the start of her career and she has no obligation to act like something she's not, not is it in her best interests to do so. Although she might be struggling now, she'll come back. She just needs to regain the fire and motivation that daddy use to provide

being a 'sore loser' is GOOD

being a 'good loser' is for pussies

as for 'sportsmanship'

KNOW THIS

if i could offer every single player a 'magic pill' that would guarantee that they would win the Grand Slam, and more importantly, no-one would ever find out, every single one of them would take that deal. This is a FACT, anyone who believes otherwise that their fav is so 'sweet' and 'pure' and wouldn't resort to cheating if they could get away with it, has no idea what they are talking about

and the same applies to any professional 'sportsman/woman' who's competing for big bucks, if they could get away with it, they would cheat

- Car Key Boi

vutt
May 14th, 2003, 05:54 PM
Sorry Vutt btu your comments on that DOkic statement are as stupid as Jelena´s.

Thanks! :wavey: Don't forget I'm her fan after all ;)

No offence I was just little bit teasing. No one should put down other player like she did and it's even worse because she stick to her word even days after.

But it's clear that you did not actually saw that match, because with such amount of UE-s and DF-s like she did no way can be Italian Open won multiple times.

eshell
May 14th, 2003, 07:05 PM
This sounds odd but I can almost agree with CKB.

Eshell runs to check his reflection in the mirror and thinks to himself, "I must be ill."

Jelena's alleged poor sportsmanship does make the tour interesting.

switz
May 15th, 2003, 12:04 AM
Duh, but lots of people here are very stupid. You have similar names, are both tall, and you identify with her. You know how dumb some posters are.

yeah well i am not that stupid. obviously i know the difference between the poster and the player. i don't think leena refers to herself in the third person either does she? so there should not be much confusion there. i was saying that leena goes on about how bovina has all this attitude and being outspoken etc, but i just don't see it, and i wanted to clarify it. and you know what, i have read about 5 bovina interviews and they are extremely run-of-the-mill, and personally i am pretty sure that leena has just invented this 'outspoken' bovina in a sad attempt to get her more attention/fans.
:) :)

Leena
May 15th, 2003, 12:11 AM
yeah well i am not that stupid. obviously i know the difference between the poster and the player. i don't think leena refers to herself in the third person either does she? so there should not be much confusion there. i was saying that leena goes on about how bovina has all this attitude and being outspoken etc, but i just don't see it, and i wanted to clarify it. and you know what, i have read about 5 bovina interviews and they are extremely run-of-the-mill, and personally i am pretty sure that leena has just invented this 'outspoken' bovina in a sad attempt to get her more attention/fans.
:) :)
1) You've never watched any of her interviews.

2) She hasn't been afraid to admit that her opponents' sucked, in nicer terms though... I remember she said that versus Foretz.

3) The very few other Lena fans know that Lena is this way.

4) How would saying she's "outspoken" get her more fans. If I've been doing it... it surely hasn't been working.

switz
May 15th, 2003, 12:32 AM
1) i watched her interview after she beat dokic at uso last year, she so nice and friendly.

2) most players will acknowledge that there opponent did not play well if they didn't

3) who janie?

4) i don't really know, that is why i was asking, but you just seem to say that in so many threads and you seem desperate to get more bovina fans, eg saying lena was hot to the CKB etc, so i guess i just presumed that you were trying to distinguish lena from other players and bring in other people like you who like players who are outspoken etc.

ok, i said i didn't want an argument, and now i have gone on about it for quite a while. i am probably wrong ok, but i just don't know why you have to be so agressive all the time. i don't think i worded my questions orginally in a way that was offensive and i was just trying to ask a question, but then you called me a jackass, questioned my intelligence, so naturally i am going to argue, even if i don't even really care about what i am debating. i just wanted to know whether lena really was how you say she is, because i like her game, and i like to know what players are like when i support them.

Car Key Boi
May 16th, 2003, 09:26 AM
no it isn't a sport, the game that i play with my friends is a sport, but professional tennis is a multi-million dollar business and it's ruthless and if yuo wanna succeed, yuo have to be ruthless and arrogant, and as far as i'm concerned, sportsmanship can go hang

my buddy Czechfan has made the comment that Martina is mature and respectful and Dokic is immature blah blah blah - that might be true, but Martina wasn't always 'mature' and respectful blah - when she was Dokic's age she was just as arrogant and yuo HAVE TO BE, it's a quality of a champion, and besides, Dokic is only a yuong babe who's had a poor and disjointed education (no fault of hers) and when she's Martina's age, i'm sure she too would behave with a bit more respect and maturity. But she isn't 41, she's at the start of her career and she has no obligation to act like something she's not, not is it in her best interests to do so. Although she might be struggling now, she'll come back. She just needs to regain the fire and motivation that daddy use to provide

being a 'sore loser' is GOOD

being a 'good loser' is for pussies

as for 'sportsmanship'

KNOW THIS

if i could offer every single player a 'magic pill' that would guarantee that they would win the Grand Slam, and more importantly, no-one would ever find out, every single one of them would take that deal. This is a FACT, anyone who believes otherwise that their fav is so 'sweet' and 'pure' and wouldn't resort to cheating if they could get away with it, has no idea what they are talking about

and the same applies to any professional 'sportsman/woman' who's competing for big bucks, if they could get away with it, they would cheat

- Car Key Boi

Glad to see that no-one has taken me to task over this post

Good.

so let's not hear anymore bullshit about poor sportsmanship and being a sore loser blah

the point is, ladies and gentleman, is that Arrogance, for lack of a better word, is good. Arrogance is right. Arrogance works. Arrogance clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Arrogance, in all of its forms - Arrogance towards players, to umpires, to linesman, fans - has marked the upward surge of professional tennis. And Arrogance, yuo mark my words, will not only save Jelena Dokic, but that other malfunctioning tennis babe called Anna Kounikova. Thank yuo very much

- Car Key Gecko :cool:

Philbo
May 16th, 2003, 10:43 AM
hey CKB - I guess what it comes down to is how you want to be remembered..

No arguing with the point that the best champions all HAVE to have a degree of arrogance - to beleive they are the best etc, otherwise they'd be another chump, but there are different types of arrogant - theres the arrogance of a Sampras or Navratilova to serve volley on a 2nd serve down break point and hit a half volley winner, theres the arrogance of a Steffi Graf or Chris Evert to play the match with a minimum of emotion - all efficient and no place for sentiment, and theres the arrogance of a primadonna, underachieving, pathetic member of the pack who makes it a habit to insult and bitch and whinge and whine...

yeah Dokic is arrogant, but it aint the type of arrogance that'll make her a champion 'mark my words'. :)

Id like to have a bet - I'll give you 3 years for Dokic's arrogance to pay off and win a slam - it wont happen. Up for it?? You can think of something 'creative' as payment :)

Car Key Boi
May 16th, 2003, 11:00 AM
buddy, i'm not a delusional tard - although i like the uber-babe i accept that she doesn't have the weapons to win a grand slam, not unless she gets a lucky draw and a couple of injuries goes her way

but she's entilted to try, and to adopt the same attitude as a champion

if she does that and tries to be #1, then i believe she does have enough talent to reach #5 or #6 again

- Car Key Boi

tennischick
May 16th, 2003, 11:48 AM
i completely agree with you CKB that most of the top players are arrogant. i rather liked that quality in Hingis and i adore it in Serena. i think it's a requirement for success in this multi-million dollar sport/business.

and i suppose if i had to choose between Venus' politically correct interviews in which she says nothing, and Dokic's more honest petulance, i do prefer the latter.

but a little grace can still go a long way. these are not either-or options. they can co-exist.

SM
May 16th, 2003, 11:56 AM
I agree that to be a champion and contest for the majors you need a degree of arrogance and pride in your own game, and agree you can be all that without being overly disprespectful as Dokic recently was to Conchita. But i must also add and concur with CKB that i would rather see Jelena be a total BITCH about it then to act like annak when she loses "oh i played well but she was better today". ;)

The last two years i think Jelena's shown maturity in her post-match pres conferences and im happy shes shown signs of maturity and she IS giving much more props where they are due. What she said to Conchita i think was not the normal Jelena of today, you all have to understand she is likely under some emotional turmoil and her spirits arent that high.

"Id like to have a bet - I'll give you 3 years for Dokic's arrogance to pay off and win a slam - it wont happen. Up for it?? You can think of something 'creative' as payment "

- such a narrow statement. If you didnt restrict it to "3 years" you might eat your words. I can see her making some finals and contesting for them especially at the French and Wimbeldon. She has game she just needs to get her head together and continue developing.

spencercarlos
May 16th, 2003, 12:34 PM
Thanks! :wavey: Don't forget I'm her fan after all ;)

No offence I was just little bit teasing. No one should put down other player like she did and it's even worse because she stick to her word even days after.

But it's clear that you did not actually saw that match, because with such amount of UE-s and DF-s like she did no way can be Italian Open won multiple times.
Thanks god Vutt ;) i thought you were supporting those actions ;)

DA FOREHAND
May 16th, 2003, 02:25 PM
All the top players have displayed arrogance. IT's a pre-requisite.

Anywhooo.....Jenn. swears on court today, and gets bravos from the wtaworld posters, Jelena speaks her mind and gets kicked in the teeth by the same crowd....LOL

I say let them both do their own thing. It's one of the things I like about individual sports, you're allowed to be an individual.

Car Key Boi
May 16th, 2003, 02:44 PM
i completely agree with you CKB that most of the top players are arrogant. i rather liked that quality in Hingis and i adore it in Serena. i think it's a requirement for success in this multi-million dollar sport/business.

and i suppose if i had to choose between Venus' politically correct interviews in which she says nothing, and Dokic's more honest petulance, i do prefer the latter.

but a little grace can still go a long way. these are not either-or options. they can co-exist.

hey honey :hearts: another excellent post from yuo

okay, i will conceed that if i was the uber-babe's coach, i would not advise her to say in an interview "that player who beat me is a talentless piece of shit" because it is unprofessional

however, i would be delighted that she's thinking such thoughts and i would never discourage it

- Car Key Boi

Philbo
May 20th, 2003, 11:50 PM
SM - "- such a narrow statement. If you didnt restrict it to "3 years" you might eat your words. I can see her making some finals and contesting for them especially at the French and Wimbeldon. She has game she just needs to get her head together and continue developing"

Okay, forget the three year clause, Ill go on record as saying JELENA will NEVER win a slam title, who wants to take the bet?? We've got about 10 years or so to think of payment!!!

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 01:53 AM
Jelena is an ungratefull little bitch ...i remember when she played capriati and lost she was indingnant even though Capriatis a much better player ...yes i agree Czechfan...Dokic is "a lttle slut" but only because of the bitchy little comments she makes...shes just another one of those classless bimbos who need to shut the hell up before we all get Jennifer Capriati to call her a fucking Dyke and Bitch slap her back to Yugoslavia ! poor Jelena Dokic the cry baby always thinking shes the best...well you know what shes a cocky little shit whos nothing but a fuck faced sore looser SO SHUT THE HELL UP DOKIC YOU COCKY LITTLE HAG! (im TERRIBLE sorry for my use of innapropriate language but Dokic is the only player i hate enough to diss! why...its simple SHES A BITCH!) and she call eat my shit for all i care the fucking talentless tart

R&J
May 21st, 2003, 02:11 AM
I'm sorry - this has nothing to do with this topic. But Car Key Boi's signature post #8 - the dancing MJ is cool! I want a Madonna one!!!!!!!!!
Now trish -:eek:- this doesnt sound like the "new" you.

Leena
May 21st, 2003, 02:12 AM
Jelena is an ungratefull little bitch ...i remember when she played capriati and lost she was indingnant even though Capriatis a much better player ...yes i agree Czechfan...Dokic is "a lttle slut" but only because of the bitchy little comments she makes...shes just another one of those classless bimbos who need to shut the hell up before we all get Jennifer Capriati to call her a fucking Dyke and Bitch slap her back to Yugoslavia ! poor Jelena Dokic the cry baby always thinking shes the best...well you know what shes a cocky little shit whos nothing but a fuck faced sore looser SO SHUT THE HELL UP DOKIC YOU COCKY LITTLE HAG! (im TERRIBLE sorry for my use of innapropriate language but Dokic is the only player i hate enough to diss! why...its simple SHES A BITCH!) and she call eat my shit for all i care the fucking talentless tart
I like you.

Let's be friends. :)

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 02:28 AM
"i like you lets be friend"

hehehe ...i think if you hate Jelena and i hate her too....then thatd be perfect..we ALREADY have sooo much in common! ...i think i like you too! :)

Jakeev
May 21st, 2003, 04:48 AM
Jelena is an ungratefull little bitch ...i remember when she played capriati and lost she was indingnant even though Capriatis a much better player ...yes i agree Czechfan...Dokic is "a lttle slut" but only because of the bitchy little comments she makes...shes just another one of those classless bimbos who need to shut the hell up before we all get Jennifer Capriati to call her a fucking Dyke and Bitch slap her back to Yugoslavia ! poor Jelena Dokic the cry baby always thinking shes the best...well you know what shes a cocky little shit whos nothing but a fuck faced sore looser SO SHUT THE HELL UP DOKIC YOU COCKY LITTLE HAG! (im TERRIBLE sorry for my use of innapropriate language but Dokic is the only player i hate enough to diss! why...its simple SHES A BITCH!) and she call eat my shit for all i care the fucking talentless tart


Speaking of Uber Bitches where did this mindless piece of crap come from?

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 04:52 AM
the only uber bitch i see is you fatty...be a nice porkchop and go eat yourself!

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 04:54 AM
uummm i think we should end this argument...im getting a headache from reading your Trash...truth hurts? well what can you expect Jakeev ?? your not only a troublemaker who started this whole argument but a lowlife as well...how LOW can you go?

Jakeev
May 21st, 2003, 04:57 AM
uummm i think we should end this argument...im getting a headache from reading your Trash...truth hurts? well what can you expect Jakeev ?? your not only a troublemaker who started this whole argument but a lowlife as well...how LOW can you go?

You are getting a headache? Lol You meant to say you are a headache right?

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 05:34 AM
headache hunny take my advice and go have dinner with Jelena you two deserve each other!

Jakeev
May 21st, 2003, 05:56 AM
headache hunny take my advice and go have dinner with Jelena you two deserve each other!

Something tells me having dinner with Jelena would be much more fun then just standing next to you.........

seeing_red
May 21st, 2003, 06:17 AM
what a nice thread

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 06:46 AM
yeah go stuff a fork in it shithead

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 06:50 AM
why do i costantly have to face piles of trash like Jakeev??? its not fair ...its like at first theres a little peice of trash on your sidewalk...sure you can ignore it but then it just gets bigger and stankier' and one day you just have the biggest pile of shit imaginable...well Jakeev is my pile of shit and i think its about time i took out the pile of shit thats stinking up the forums...once hes gone we can live peacefully again without a pile of garbage around to mess up the scenery

Jakeev
May 21st, 2003, 06:57 AM
why do i costantly have to face piles of trash like Jakeev??? its not fair ...its like at first theres a little peice of trash on your sidewalk...

KNow what bitch take a whiff of your own flesh and you will realize it not "faces of trash like Jakeev" that bother you but your own discusting scent? How can you sleep at night?

Glad to see people will see your true colors around here though. You are know fan of women's tennis. Just a wannabe troublemaker who has to pretend she is worth something and has something useless to say.

Frankly, I think you owe not only DOkic fans, but tennis fans in general for being spiteful, immature little girl who need to definitely grow up.

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 07:05 AM
you hypocrit...you are a sad hypocrite ...but seeing as you probably dont know what hypocrite means let me spell it out for you ...hypocrite -someone who either accuses another of a decietfull act in which he himself indulged himself into OR some sad loser named Jakeev who tells me IM a sad bitch who is a no good slut yet hes the exact same thing... hunny admitting that you suck A LOT of cock...anbd fast just makes you a slut a male whore and you are nothing better than a male whore

I on the other hand AM a very avid tennis player ive been playing since the early age of 8 and i always attend the Canadian open when it comes to my fair city of Toronto...thats if im not working ...what about you??? oooh and onother thing im a good enough tennis player to know that your speeches aboput "knowing blah blah blah blah blah" well it just that BLAH!

Trish101
May 21st, 2003, 07:09 AM
im going to be the one to end this...so here IM going to be the class act and APOLOGISE...im SORRY for making hurtfuall statements towards you ...listen im agry your angry lets just forget about it ok??? we can do thi as long as you want to cause i can just keep going and going BUT im tiered angry HUNGRY and i need to do the gym SOOOO take apology or not...no hard feelings? i admit it your one good ass disher of the insults and all that other stuff but i think this "fight" has run its course sooo take it from me accept my HUMBLE (and i mean that) apology i was caught up in the moment of your hurtfull remark ragarding me...sooo ???

Tarsius
May 21st, 2003, 07:10 AM
okay, i will conceed that if i was the uber-babe's coach, i would not advise her to say in an interview "that player who beat me is a talentless piece of shit" because it is unprofessional

however, i would be delighted that she's thinking such thoughts and i would never discourage it
Very apt. I thought I'd never say this, but this time CKB hit the nail right on the head. The key word here is Professionalism.

Still, I will admit that these little soap opera outbursts do make the WTA a little more interesting.

R&J
May 21st, 2003, 05:15 PM
i completely agree with you CKB that most of the top players are arrogant. i rather liked that quality in Hingis and i adore it in Serena. i think it's a requirement for success in this multi-million dollar sport/business.

and i suppose if i had to choose between Venus' politically correct interviews in which she says nothing, and Dokic's more honest petulance, i do prefer the latter.

but a little grace can still go a long way. these are not either-or options. they can co-exist.
Good post!:wavey:

Car Key Boi
May 21st, 2003, 08:15 PM
Jelena is an ungratefull little bitch ...i remember when she played capriati and lost she was indingnant even though Capriatis a much better player ...yes i agree Czechfan...Dokic is "a lttle slut" but only because of the bitchy little comments she makes...shes just another one of those classless bimbos who need to shut the hell up before we all get Jennifer Capriati to call her a fucking Dyke and Bitch slap her back to Yugoslavia ! poor Jelena Dokic the cry baby always thinking shes the best...well you know what shes a cocky little shit whos nothing but a fuck faced sore looser SO SHUT THE HELL UP DOKIC YOU COCKY LITTLE HAG! (im TERRIBLE sorry for my use of innapropriate language but Dokic is the only player i hate enough to diss! why...its simple SHES A BITCH!) and she call eat my shit for all i care the fucking talentless tart

lol even thou yuo're trashing the uber-babe, i like yuo

yuo say what yuo think and yuo're not afraid if what yuo say might make yuo unpopular, just like myslef :) and just like the uber-babe :D

are yuo a hot blonde chick by any chance? :D

- Car Key Boi