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GoGoMaggie
May 13th, 2003, 03:53 AM
There have been so many last minute or late withdrawals for various reasons. Now Jusine pulled out of Rome. It seems many top players who have won titles the week before another event are highly likely to withdraw from the up coming one. I know the players are tired and want to skip the tune-up event to enter the GS fresh. But I still feel disgusted, especially when they do it after the draw is out. Isn't it part of their responsibility? A lot of people have bought tickets to see the particular players and seems they feel nothing about disappointing their fans. I know they don't play for the sake of their fans but they make money from all the marketting things. I must say it's a lack of responsiblity from some players if they do it more than once in a year. I know this has been discussed a lot before.. Nways, what do you think?

Rtael
May 13th, 2003, 03:56 AM
I kinda have to agree even if I am a fan of Justine =P

Gowza
May 13th, 2003, 03:58 AM
although i think the players are doing the right thing so they don't get over tired i still agree with you that they have a responsibility. it's something where no matter what they do they are doing the right thing but also the wrong thing.

GoGoMaggie
May 13th, 2003, 09:57 AM
There should be a limit to the number of tournaments a player can withdraw from per year.... j/k

great smash
May 13th, 2003, 10:11 AM
It's such a difficult matter: Players always should be allowed to rest in case of injuries. However how to define whether they are serious enough or just precaution, who's to say.

In the end al players seem to be doing whatever they feel like, and moste of the time it doesn't really matter. Though this time I'm going to Rome, I was hoping to see her, which obviously isn't going to happen so in those cases it's quite dissapointing to fans.

They should realise that professional tennis only exists because it attacts people to come and watch. They shouldn't dissapoint them as often as they are these days

GoGoMaggie
May 14th, 2003, 01:50 AM
It's such a difficult matter: Players always should be allowed to rest in case of injuries. However how to define whether they are serious enough or just precaution, who's to say.

In the end al players seem to be doing whatever they feel like, and moste of the time it doesn't really matter. Though this time I'm going to Rome, I was hoping to see her, which obviously isn't going to happen so in those cases it's quite dissapointing to fans.

They should realise that professional tennis only exists because it attacts people to come and watch. They shouldn't dissapoint them as often as they are these days

Exactly :worship:

CC
May 14th, 2003, 02:02 AM
Hey Car Key, no need to change the title on this one. :wink:

TheBoiledEgg
May 14th, 2003, 03:10 AM
there already is a ruling for this...... its a bit long but :o

a. Medical Withdrawals
Players are allowed to withdraw two (2) times in any one (1) year without penalty for Medical reasons for Tournaments other than the Tour Championships. The WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form, written in English, must be completed and received by the Tour Operations
office within ten (10) days of the withdrawal. The reason given for the medical withdrawal may be utilized for media release. If a player is forced to withdraw from consecutive Tournaments, the Medical Withdrawal Form (and the reasons indicated on the medical withdrawal
form) will be applied to all Tournaments she has withdrawn from and will be considered as one medical withdrawal.
i. Except as otherwise set forth herein, any player may withdraw for medical reasons, without being subject to a fine, twice in each Tour year, upon presentation to the WTA Tour of a WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form, completed by an appropriate medical physician, verifying she is unable to play in the Tournament from which she was forced to withdraw.
The medical examination must be completed by an appropriate medical physician and documented in English on the WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form and submitted to the WTA Tour within ten (10) days
after the playerís withdrawal from the Tournament. The player must sign the WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form authorizing the public release of
information for the withdrawal. If the player fails to submit the WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form within 10 days after the playerís withdrawal from the Tournament, she will be subject to the penalty
withdrawal fines.

ii. If a player is on-site at a Tournament and is forced to withdraw from that Tournament due to an injury or illness, the player may submit WTA Tour documentation (completed by the Tournament Physician and the PHCP) during the Tournament week, and appeal to the WTA Tour for a 100% dismissal for her late withdrawal fine.

iii. Following a withdrawal, retirement or default from a match a player is required to meet the on-site PHCP and the Tournament Physician for an evaluation and assessment of the injury or illness prior to the player
leaving the Tournament city. Failure to meet with the above requirement may result in a fine to the player. The player must submit a copy of the signed WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form and the Change of Commitment Form to the on-site Supervisor, stating her reason for withdrawal and giving authorization for public release. In the event that the player retires during the first round, she must complete the First
Round Retirement form with the PHCP and the Supervisor.

iv. After the start of Qualifying, if the player is in the Tournament City, and must withdraw for medical reasons, she must meet with the on-site Tournament Physician and PHCP to complete the Medical Withdrawal Form and aforementioned procedures.

7. Gold Exempt Player Medical Withdrawal
If a Gold Exempt player withdraws from a Tournament, she is required to provide the WTA Tour with an official Medical Withdrawal Form* to be completed by an appropriate Physician to the Tour Operations Department. Included with this Form, a copy of the clinical visit, Physicianís notes/documentation and all relevant laboratory tests must also be submitted to the Sport Sciences & Medicine Department at the WTA Tour Florida office within ten (10) days of the playerís withdrawal.
During a Tournament, any Gold Exempt player who retires or defaults from a match is required to meet with the on-site PHCP and the Tournament Physician for an evaluation and assessment of the injury or illness prior to the player leaving the Tournament city. Failure to meet with the above requirements may result in a fine to the player. The player must submit a copy of the signed WTA Tour Medical Withdrawal Form and the Change of Commitment Form to the on-site Supervisor, stating her reason for withdrawal and giving authorization for public release. In the event that the player retires during the first round, she must complete the First Round Retirement form with the PHCP and
Supervisor.

After the start of Qualifying, if the player is in the Tournament City,
and must withdraw for medical reasons, she must meet with the on-site Tournament Physician and PHCP to complete the Medical Withdrawal Form and aforementioned procedures. All documentation must be submitted in English.

* A player may obtain a medical withdrawal form through the Tour
Operations Department in Florida or Europe, an on-site Supervisor, or through the Tourís faxback system.

GoGoMaggie
May 14th, 2003, 04:03 AM
Can playing too much be a legitimate reason for pulling out? What about being tired as many players use it as the reason or (an excuse) for their withdrawals?

King Lindsay
May 14th, 2003, 08:18 AM
Can playing too much be a legitimate reason for pulling out? What about being tired as many players use it as the reason or (an excuse) for their withdrawals?

fatigue. That is the term. and yes, it's obviously very valid. Of course, it's also the most abused excuse because anybody can claim to be fatigued, and if you say you are, nobody can really prove you wrong.

GoGoMaggie
May 14th, 2003, 09:19 AM
I hate to say this but some players withdraw after winning a big event for lack of motivation... you often see a player who won a big title make an early exit the week after.. It's hard to keep up the motivation after you have done something huge.. I think that's a bigger part of the reason than actual fatigue the player suffers. I know in many cases they are really tired and decide to pull out knowing they won't go too far in the event.. but you can't deny their lack of motivation as part of the reason for their withdrawals.

best best better
May 14th, 2003, 09:28 AM
Lack of motivation? I don't agree. The one thing a player wants to do when they've one a tournament is move right on to the next one and keep the momentum going.

They eventually exit early due to fatigue, which is very valid...but the motivation is surely higher when you've just won a tournament?