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Fingon
May 11th, 2003, 07:46 PM
I don't think it's fair that the top players are allowed to play low tier tournaments.

Those tournaments are there to level the field, to allow players whose rank is low to play a tournament where they can compete and eventually win. If a top player enters those tournament, she is taking away that from the rest (in most of the cases).

I think the WTA should imposse certain rules, what I would do is:

1) Top 5: can't play tier 3 or below
2) 6-10: can't play tier 4 or below
3) 11-20: can't play tier 5 or below
4) 21-50: can't play 75K challengers
5) 51-100: can't play 50k challengers.

Of course the ranges could be changed but this is the idea.

selesfan1
May 11th, 2003, 08:16 PM
A lot o times when a top player enters it heps the tournament overall with ticket sales and helps the money turn a profit forwhat would otherwise pobably be a lost. Operating expenses fo a Tier III Tournament exceed 1 million dollars and often bringing in a high ranked player helps the tournament.

Ryan
May 11th, 2003, 08:20 PM
I completely agree Fingon. I am sick of top 10-20 players in tournaments like Sarasota and Doha. I think your standards above are fine, but I might even make 6-20 not play Tier 4's.

Rtael
May 11th, 2003, 08:26 PM
uhm...wtf? top 5 players can ony play Tier II and Tier I? The WTA will never impose rules like this because the players would never agree...nor the tournaments...it's a very stupid rule

downtheline
May 11th, 2003, 08:44 PM
the fact of the matter is that when top 100 players play challengers they don't always win the title. They don't unfairly rack up ITF titles. The points awarded on every level on the WTA and ITF circuits pretty much keep the fields from becoming inappropriately too strong.

Anna Kournikova is playing right about where her ranking is dictating. She is in Challenger zone now being in the 70s.

We also have to remember that even players 40-75 need to continue to play challengers because some tier 2s have 28 draws and are hard to get into unless you are in the top 30. 50,000 and 75,000 events help those players, and being higher ranked, they help the lesser players with quality and not overwhelming competition.

:wavey:

Fingon
May 11th, 2003, 09:02 PM
uhm...wtf? top 5 players can ony play Tier II and Tier I? The WTA will never impose rules like this because the players would never agree...nor the tournaments...it's a very stupid rule

First, it's NOT a very stupid rule, a rule to be stupid has to be a rule first and there isn't such a rule, at least not like this.

Second, the top 5 are currently NOT allowed to play tier 3 or below events when there is a higuer tier event the same week, the WTA makes exceptions some times (like allowing Hingis to play Doha to promote the tournament).

I don't see that Justine or Kim should be playing Rossmalen or Venus Gold coast, or Kim Luxembourg.

Justine this year didn't play Gold Coast, is not playing Rossmalen, so in fact she isn't playing any tier 3 event.

Serena has not played a tier 3 in a very long time, Venus played Gold Coast last year but she normally doesn't.

Kim would be playing Rossmalen and Luxembourg which IMO sholdn't be allowed, it was ok when she was outside the top 5, but now?, she doesn't need those points, she doesn't need the money, she doesn't need matches, give other players the chance to win.

Fingon
May 11th, 2003, 09:04 PM
A lot o times when a top player enters it heps the tournament overall with ticket sales and helps the money turn a profit forwhat would otherwise pobably be a lost. Operating expenses fo a Tier III Tournament exceed 1 million dollars and often bringing in a high ranked player helps the tournament.

if that was the factor then they should enter Kournikova in every tournament. The fact remains it's unfair on the other players.

Whatzup
May 11th, 2003, 09:09 PM
Yes but I think Kim and Justine play in Rosmalen because they have a lot of fans in the Netherlands and it's a good warm-up for Wimbledon!

But Fignon you are right! Rosmalen had last your way too good players for a Tier 3!

Clijsters, Henin, Mauresmo, Dementieva and Maleeva.

But still Dannilidou won, so that will mean that the top 10 players will not immediately win! :D