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Venus Forever
May 11th, 2003, 07:25 PM
She's no longer in the draw.

Patty Schnyder became the #17 seed, and took her spot in the draw.

Unless they updated the draw wrong, this is how it is:

1- Serena Williams - bye
Anabel Medina Garrigues vs. Q- Klara Koukalova
Q- Ashley Harkleroad vs. Nathalie Dechy
Iroda Tulyaganova vs. 14- Amanda Coetzer

9- Jelena Dokic vs. Conchita Martinez
WC- Emmanuelle Gagliardi vs. Q- Jelena Jankovic
Magui Serna vs. Elena Likhovtseva
7- Daniela Hantuchova - bye

4- Amelie Mauresmo - bye
Lina Krasnoroutskaya vs. Q- Els Callens
WC- Flavia Pennetta vs. Clarisa Fernandez
Q- Elena Tatarkova vs. 16- Anna Pistolesi

10- Monica Seles vs. Myriam Casanova
Nadia Petrova vs. WC- Tathiana Garbin
Alexandra Stevenson vs. Q- Fabiola Zuluaga
5- Jennifer Capriati - bye

6- Chanda Rubin - bye
LL- Emilie Loit vs. Denisa Chladkova
Q- Adriana Serra Zanetti vs. Q- Tina Pisnik
Silvia Farina Elia vs. 11- Magdalena Maleeva

13- Ai Sugiyama vs. Paola Suarez
Katarina Srebotnik vs. Q- Dinara Safina
Barbara Schett vs. WC- Antonella Serra Zanetti
17- Patty Schnyder - bye

8- Anastasia Myskina - bye
Maja Matevzic vs. Francesca Schiavone
Marie-Gaianeh Mikaelian vs. Svetlana Kuznetsova
Q- Samantha Reeves vs. 12- Eleni Daniilidou

15- Meghann Shaughnessy vs. Laura Granville
Q- Cara Black vs. Rita Grande
Virginia Ruano Pascual vs. Q- Meilen Tu
2- Kim Clijsters - bye

CJ07
May 11th, 2003, 07:30 PM
hmm maybe she wanted to go into Roland Garros fresh

arn
May 11th, 2003, 07:31 PM
Probably a wise decision by justine so close to RG. Even a minor problem is a good reason to withdrew. Hopefully it's nothing serious!

Wow, the highest ranked player Kim will have to face before the finals is Chanda Rubin!

tfannis
May 11th, 2003, 07:31 PM
Ah very smart :) No riscs :) She has made her point already...she's the top clay court player. A break won't do any harm before her beloved RG ;)

Dawn Marie
May 11th, 2003, 07:32 PM
Yeah she would have been crazy playing Rome. Great move this kid is going for the Roland garros slam title!!

SJW
May 11th, 2003, 07:33 PM
WTF?!?! Schnyder?! the should do the same thing Berlin did!!! :fiery:

the top half already had all the good players in it bar kim.....now the bottom half has just got lighter while a Monica Jen match will only be a few matches into the tourney! :fiery:

Yak
May 11th, 2003, 07:33 PM
Yeah! You go Justine! I thought you were stupid playing week in week out before RG. That shows she has a head!

angele87
May 11th, 2003, 07:35 PM
That seems weird... why would Patty get a first round bye when all the 9-16 seeds don't? It would be more logical for Jelena (who's seeded 9) to take Justine's place in the draw as well as the first round bye... or perhaps I'm missing something here :confused:

Kuti Kis&Monica
May 11th, 2003, 07:35 PM
It's not a fair draw now :mad: :mad:
Why didn't they plan to do as they did in Berlin: to do some changes in the draw. It's not balanced : Serena,Jelena, Amelie, Mauresmo, Capriati and Monica on the first half, and on the second, Kim and Chanda, who didn't give some solids indications on clay this year.
Lucky draw for Kim, pfff :mad: :mad:

CJ07
May 11th, 2003, 07:36 PM
good chance for Dinara to have her breakthrough tournament

Shedevil
May 11th, 2003, 07:38 PM
hmm..I agree, don't want her to "overplay"

Venus Forever
May 11th, 2003, 07:40 PM
That seems weird... why would Patty get a first round bye when all the 9-16 seeds don't? It would be more logical for Jelena (who's seeded 9) to take Justine's place in the draw as well as the first round bye... or perhaps I'm missing something here :confused:

Well, according the TBE, you can only make drastic changes like that before 4 PM, but Justine withdrew after 4 PM, so only minor changes can be made.

If she withdrew before 4 PM, Jennifer would have taken Justine's spot, Jelena would have taken Jennifer's, and Patty would have taken Jelena's.

I dunno, I guess some stupid rule prevented them from doing that.

katrientje
May 11th, 2003, 07:40 PM
wise decision justine! I totally agree! Didn't want to see the same thing happening as last year

angele87
May 11th, 2003, 07:41 PM
Well, according the TBE, you can only make drastic changes like that before 4 PM, but Justine withdrew after 4 PM, so only minor changes can be made.

If she withdrew before 4 PM, Jennifer would have taken Justine's spot, Jelena would have taken Jennifer's, and Patty would have taken Jelena's.

I dunno, I guess some stupid rule prevented them from doing that.
Thanks for the info :kiss:

irma
May 11th, 2003, 07:42 PM
I wish kim would do the same well at least in doubles!

Hagar
May 11th, 2003, 07:45 PM
Smart move from Justine. After having beaten Serena and Kim, she knows she's ready for the clay.
Boy, has she set her mind on that Roland Garros trophy or not...

Shedevil
May 11th, 2003, 07:46 PM
yeah, I'm wondereing wether it's becoming an obsession...or already is

schris
May 11th, 2003, 07:47 PM
very good decision !

starr
May 11th, 2003, 07:49 PM
Wait..... who is the number 3 seed then? I didn't see that on the draw.

petroniao
May 11th, 2003, 07:51 PM
The official site is mentioning "Left knee tendinitis" as reason for the withdrawal (in the pdf-drawfile itself)...

so, it seems indeed wise to take a break two weeks before RG :)

starr
May 11th, 2003, 07:52 PM
Nice catch VF.... Here's the announcement from the site

La giocatrice belga Justine Henin-Hardenne, numero 4 del mondo e finalista al Foro Italico l’anno scorso, ha annunciato oggi a Berlino il proprio ritiro dal Telecom Italia Masters Roma 2003 a causa di una tendinite al ginocchio sinistro. L’infortunio si è verificato nel corso della dura finale che la Henin ha giocato e vinto oggi a Berlino sulla connazionale Clijsters (64 46 75) dopo aver annullato tre match points.“Mi dispiace moltissimo non poter venire al Foro Italico – ha detto la belga, che a Roma sarebbe stata testa di serie numero 3 – L’anno scorso mi ero divertita e avevo giocato davvero bene. Sfortunatamente, però, durante la finale di oggi, che è stata molto difficile e fisicamente intensa, le condizioni del ginocchio si sono aggravate e i medici mi hanno consigliato di riposarmi almeno una settimana se voglio presentarmi in buone condizioni al Roland Garros, che comincia fra quindici giorni”.Il posto della Henin fra le teste di serie è stato preso, con il numero 17, da Patty Schnyder, la cui posizione in tabellone sarà occupata dalla miglior classificata nel ranking Wta fra le sconfitte dell`ultimo turno delle qualificazioni. Tale diritto spetterebbe alla francese Emile Loit (sconfitta oggi dall’italiana Adriana Serra Zanetti), ma per usufruirne la Loit dovrà materialmente presentarsi al Foro Italico domani entro le ore 12.30, quando chiuderà il “sign in”.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 07:53 PM
tendinitis in her left something or other.

Cariaoke
May 11th, 2003, 07:53 PM
Go Serena! *shrug*

Venus Forever
May 11th, 2003, 07:54 PM
Tendonitis??

That's not good, but, it should be enough time for her to heal by the French.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 07:59 PM
Maybe it's just me, but tendinitis seems to be the favored way of being injured to not have to play in a tournament. ;)

I think it's a wise descision.

Hey, Agassi pulled out of Hamburg after having a written commitment with them without ANY reason. I don't know..... fake reason or real reason or no reason.... can't decide which I like best.

selesfan
May 11th, 2003, 08:08 PM
Smart move by Justine. I wished she withdrew earlier though. It doesn't seem fair that Patty gets a bye.

CJ07
May 11th, 2003, 08:10 PM
Kim should be the one pulling out

she just choked another final

6-3 4-6 6-4
Was up 4-1 in the third

selesrules
May 11th, 2003, 08:12 PM
Wow, the bottom half is extremely weak when compared to the top half. :eek:

Elke
May 11th, 2003, 08:17 PM
Kim has not been up 4-1 in the third today! :rolleyes:

Cybelle Darkholme
May 11th, 2003, 08:21 PM
funny how justine withdraws and its greeted with wise move and good decision while other players are criticized for abandoning commitments.

Bigkimfan
May 11th, 2003, 08:22 PM
Kim has not been up 4-1 in the third today! :rolleyes:

In her doublesmatch :sad:

Fingon
May 11th, 2003, 08:24 PM
Kim should be the one pulling out

she just choked another final

6-3 4-6 6-4
Was up 4-1 in the third

It was actually Justine who was 4-1 up in the second and Kim won the next 5 games.

In the third both players held serve up to 5-5.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 08:25 PM
High-fives Fignon

Astro Jetson
May 11th, 2003, 08:25 PM
Mmcdonnald is talking about doubles!

Elke
May 11th, 2003, 08:26 PM
In her doublesmatch :sad:
I think he/she meant singles.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 08:28 PM
Oh..... I see..... well then I'll delete my post and apologise to Mac. :)

Venus Forever
May 11th, 2003, 08:29 PM
Henin-Hardenne withdraws from Italian Masters


May 11, 2003
ROME (Ticker) - Hours after winning her third title of the year, world No. 4 Justine Henin-Hardenne of Belgium withdrew from the $1.3 million Italian Masters with left knee tendinitis.

Henin-Hardenne, runner-up here last year, was due to be the third seed behind defending champion Serena Williams of the United States and Belgian Kim Clijsters. She developed the injury during her 6-4, 4-6, 7-5 victory over Clijsters in the final of the German Open on Sunday.

"I'm very disappointed to have to miss the Italian Open this year," Henin-Hardenne said. "I played very well here last year and really enjoyed myself in Rome.

"Unfortunately, today's match against Kim in Berlin was very tough and intense physically. My knee got worse as the match went on and right now the advice I have received is to take a rest to ensure I will be fully fit for the French Open, which starts in two weeks' time."

Henin-Hardenne's place in the draw was filled by Switzerland's Patty Schnyder, who becomes the 17th seed. Although no further adjustments will be made to the draw since the schedule for Monday already has been released, a lucky loser will gain entry into the draw.

selesfan
May 11th, 2003, 08:31 PM
KIm didn't choke in either match, Vivi and Paola are the #1 doubles team. I do wish Kim would stop playing too much though, she should follow Justine's example and not play doubles every tournament.

Hurley
May 11th, 2003, 08:36 PM
Great, great, great idea...even better because now she won't suffer a demoralizing loss to an inferior player.

She can only pick up points at Roland Garros, so no reason at all to play here. This is exactly how I wanted the clay season to go for Justine! :D

Allez Justine!

RYN
May 11th, 2003, 08:37 PM
Thats a good idea.

Justine is my favorite for the French...

Fedcup
May 11th, 2003, 08:37 PM
Smart move by Justine. I wished she withdrew earlier though. It doesn't seem fair that Patty gets a bye.

I think she only withdrew becuase she succesfully defended her title.
It's better to quit after a winning streak. Otherwise I think she would have played Rome

And because the match was over 2 hours their were still playing after 4 o'clock.

So that's the reason why she withdrew so late in my point of view

vaiva
May 11th, 2003, 08:40 PM
Wise Juju :D

A very timely break. Make the most of it and be prepared for RG ;)

Serendy Willick
May 11th, 2003, 08:41 PM
funny how justine withdraws and its greeted with wise move and good decision while other players are criticized for abandoning commitments.


Agreeed. I also find it funny how Henin-Hardenne can talk, all of that smack about "hammering out a warning to the Williams" :rolleyes: and then ends up pulling out.

Astro Jetson
May 11th, 2003, 08:46 PM
Agreeed. I also find it funny how Henin-Hardenne can talk, all of that smack about "hammering out a warning to the Williams" :rolleyes: and then ends up pulling out.

Why are you using quotation marks? She never said that.

Jericho
May 11th, 2003, 08:48 PM
Agreeed. I also find it funny how Henin-Hardenne can talk, all of that smack about "hammering out a warning to the Williams" :rolleyes: and then ends up pulling out.

there is always a double standard, its always been like that...the williams sisters are always criticized, but when other players do it there is always an excuse about how it is "different"

shap_half
May 11th, 2003, 09:05 PM
well i think people since the beginning of the season when justine announced her plans for a full schedule, most of the posters have expressed their concerns about the situation. many felt that she might be overdoing it by taking on so many commitments. now that she has pulled out of rome, people are congratulating her because that is what people wanted her to do. if venus backs out and people didn't want her to and people have expressed their feelings that she should continue to play why would they support her if they don't agree (i'm talking in general of course and no one situation or player specifically).

leslie
May 11th, 2003, 09:05 PM
there is always a double standard, its always been like that...the williams sisters are always criticized, but when other players do it there is always an excuse about how it is "different"

Bingo. These double standards are as clear as day but the haters cannot see them.

leslie
May 11th, 2003, 09:07 PM
well i think people since the beginning of the season when justine announced her plans for a full schedule, most of the posters have expressed their concerns about the situation. many felt that she might be overdoing it by taking on so many commitments. now that she has pulled out of rome, people are congratulating her because that is what people wanted her to do. if venus backs out and people didn't want her to and people have expressed their feelings that she should continue to play why would they support her if they don't agree (i'm talking in general of course and no one situation or player specifically).

Stop making flimsy excuses they are not holding here.

katrientje
May 11th, 2003, 09:08 PM
there is always a double standard, its always been like that...the williams sisters are always criticized, but when other players do it there is always an excuse about how it is "different"

oh come on, you must be joking. The reactions depend on the occasion, every situation is different and here it's really obvious that justine SHOULd withdraw from playing in rome

selesfan
May 11th, 2003, 09:11 PM
Agreeed. I also find it funny how Henin-Hardenne can talk, all of that smack about "hammering out a warning to the Williams" :rolleyes: and then ends up pulling out.

Did she realy say that? I must admit, I used to be a big Justine fan but I have been disappointed by some of her comments especially after a loss, she comes off as being a sore loser and of course she doesn't get criticized for it.

Kart
May 11th, 2003, 09:13 PM
Well it's late notice by Justine - I wonder what her excuse is.

Maybe it's a conspiracy between her and Kim to influence the French open seedings ;).

shap_half
May 11th, 2003, 09:14 PM
It's not an excuse. Maybe you should read past threads about people complaining that Justine is taking on too many tournaments enroute to the French Open before you should say who's making excuses? So now that she took one off, people are happy. And it's not a double standard: If you do something people have expressed their desires for you to do, then why shouldn't those people congratulate you for doing it!

shap_half
May 11th, 2003, 09:15 PM
Did she realy say that? I must admit, I used to be a big Justine fan but I have been disappointed by some of her comments especially after a loss, she comes off as being a sore loser and of course she doesn't get criticized for it.


And what "comments" did she make after losing to Chanda in Miami or Elena in Amelia Island? I don't mean to be rude or ignorant of Justine's flaws but those are her two most recent loss and I don't remember her making any comments that would make her a sore loser.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 09:18 PM
And here's the other thing: Justine didn't make the remark in quotes.

At least I haven't seen it anywhere.

Dava
May 11th, 2003, 09:19 PM
What I can;t believe it!!!

Come back soon Justine :sad:

Astro Jetson
May 11th, 2003, 09:21 PM
Did she realy say that?

No, she never ever said that! I think she doesn't even know what "hammering out" means!!! :rolleyes:
Go to the site of the Charleston tournament and check out the interview if you really want to know.

Serendy Willick
May 11th, 2003, 09:22 PM
She needs to shut her hole, and focus on her own game and not even mention Serena.



Henin-Hardenne hammers out Williams warning


BERLIN (AFP) - Justine Henin-Hardenne began the defence of her German Open title with an emphatic win, a place in the last 16, and a warning to the Williams sisters.

The second-seeded Belgian coped with increasing certainty against the challenge of the 20-year-old Czech, Daja Bedanova, and after a 6-4, 6-1 success Henin felt confident enough to make optimistic predictions.

"I think that things may be going to change a little," she said.

"I beat Serena Williams for the first time this year, and although she's a great opponent, when she comes back I will be ready."

Henin's victory over Serena took place last month at in Charleston, after which the world number one announced her withdrawal from this week's German Open.

A further disappointment came when Venus Williams, the elder sister, also withdrew here after injuring stomach muscles in the Warsaw final on Sunday - but Henin was not prepared to acknowledge it as such.

"I am more concerned with what I am trying to do," she said.

"I feel great physically and mentally. I have never worked so hard before, and I worked so hard that sometimes I was crying. I am only 20 and there are many ways for me to get better."

Henin and the Williams sisters cannot meet up until next week's Masters in Rome, where Serena returns to action, but she is determined to build up some clay court momentum.

Her possible third round opponent is Patty Schyder, the 15th seed from Switzerland, who survived a long three-set match with another Belgian, Els Callens, but is a round behind.

However, seeds have already started to fall.

Chanda Rubin, the number six from the United States, found the creative mixture of left-handed spins from the Spaniard, Magui Serna, too difficult to handle and lost in the second round by 7-5, 6-3.

Magdalena Maleeva, the number 11 from Bulgaria, was outlasted by Denisa Chladkova of the Czech Republic and went down 6-7 (1/7), 6-4, 6-4 in the first round.

The opening day had already seen the defeat of Ai Sugiyama, the 13th seed from Japan, and Elena Dementieva, the Russian 10th seed.

Two others had narrow escapes on Tuesday.

Meghann Shaughnessy, the number 14 seed from the United States needed two double faults in the final game from Iva Majoli, the former French Open champion from Croatia before winning 7-6 (7/3), 3-6, 6-4 in the first round, while Daniela Hantuchova, the number seven from Slovakia, had to fight hard before quelling the second round challenge of Barbara Schett, the former top ten player from Austria 6-3, 4-6, 6-4.

Hantuchova also hit her right knee with the handle of her racket while attempting a sliced backhand to a bad bounce, and needed several minutes of on-court treatment.

She complained that the knock was getting more and more painful after the match, and her chances of further progress may depend on the condition of the knee when she wakes up in the morning.

leslie
May 11th, 2003, 09:24 PM
And what "comments" did she make after losing to Chanda in Miami or Elena in Amelia Island? I don't mean to be rude or ignorant of Justine's flaws but those are her two most recent loss and I don't remember her making any comments that would make her a sore loser.

She only makes comments when she loses to the Sisters.

xin
May 11th, 2003, 09:26 PM
well i think people since the beginning of the season when justine announced her plans for a full schedule, most of the posters have expressed their concerns about the situation. many felt that she might be overdoing it by taking on so many commitments. now that she has pulled out of rome, people are congratulating her because that is what people wanted her to do. if venus backs out and people didn't want her to and people have expressed their feelings that she should continue to play why would they support her if they don't agree (i'm talking in general of course and no one situation or player specifically).

Exactly. Shap_half, you can just ignore those accusing this and that. They don't understand how different is the two situations and no matter how you explain it, they will still hold "double standard"

Kart
May 11th, 2003, 09:27 PM
I don't see anything wrong with what she said :confused:.

Mercury Rising
May 11th, 2003, 09:45 PM
Man, some of the Williams fans are really starting to whine and wank about everything. It's time Venus and Serena start to play again, so they have something else to talk about. Geez :rolleyes:

Hurley
May 11th, 2003, 09:47 PM
I love how a moron actually thought Justine said THE HEADLINE. LOL!

starr
May 11th, 2003, 09:48 PM
searched high and low and didn't see anything about warnings or hamerings.

selesfan
May 11th, 2003, 09:49 PM
She made comments after she lost to Lindsay and the Williams sisters last year. I admit she has been a little better this year because she is winning. I also didn't like when she expressed disppointment in 2001 when Kim won player of the year in Belgium, I thought Kim deserved it and she should have congratulated her instead of complaining. This is just my opinion though and maybe I am a little rougher on the players than the rest of you. ;)

Hurley
May 11th, 2003, 09:51 PM
searched high and low and didn't see anything about warnings or hamerings.

See the headline of the article above?

That dork thought Justine was the headline editor for that article, and the headline was a quote. ROFL!

starr
May 11th, 2003, 09:52 PM
Justine can be tart sometimes. But I like straight shooting instead of a lot of mealy mouthed crapola. Lindsay is that way too. I like that better than players who resort to fabrications and deceptions.

rhz
May 11th, 2003, 09:52 PM
it's wise decision for justine. but it makes the draw look like crap!!

Hurley
May 11th, 2003, 09:53 PM
And also...Justine was surely asked about Serena. And her quote isn't disrespectful at all.

And she wouldn't even TALK about Venus, even though she was asked about her. She certainly kept her "hole" "shut" there too.

Some of you people need brain transplants or just, like, to not post or something.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 09:53 PM
See the headline of the article above?

That dork thought Justine was the headline editor for that article, and the headline was a quote. ROFL!

Yeah...... I saw that after you posted. Your post slipped in before mine. That is hilarious. And astounding.

Hurley
May 11th, 2003, 09:56 PM
God! SO ANNOYING! ;)

starr
May 11th, 2003, 09:57 PM
God! SO ANNOYING! ;)


Yeah.... that too.
Not to mention assinine. :)

Oh........... there are so many "a" words in the dictionary.

Serendy Willick
May 11th, 2003, 10:01 PM
I love how a moron actually thought Justine said THE HEADLINE. LOL!


Hmm, thats real cute, I love how a bitch can call me a moron because I dont agree with with the article that I posted. I continue to stand by my statement that Henin-Hardenne shouldve shut up about Serena, period.

ans
May 11th, 2003, 10:03 PM
Hmm, thats real cute, I love how a bitch can call me a moron because I dont agree with with the article that I posted. I continue to stand by my statement that Henin-Hardenne shouldve shut up about Serena, period.

hey luci, you seem to be to justine what our friend leslie is to kim. ;)

Hurley
May 11th, 2003, 10:04 PM
Hmm, thats real cute, I love how a bitch can call me a moron because I dont agree with with the article that I posted. I continue to stand by my statement that Henin-Hardenne shouldve shut up about Serena, period.

I'm calling you a moron because you are one. Justine didn't say the headline. That's what headline writers are for. Then you put that in quotes. If she had said that, it would have been in quotes in the headline. Because, see, only things in quotes are verbatim.

So, now you see when you put something she didn't say in quotes, you got everyone into a tizzy for no reason other than your ignorance.

But I agree. She was very respectful toward Serena. So she should shut up about her.

Serendy Willick
May 11th, 2003, 10:05 PM
hey luci, you seem to be to justine what our friend leslie is to kim. ;)

Hey ans, I could care less about Justine and how am I like Lesile to Kim? :confused:

Smart
May 11th, 2003, 10:05 PM
Good decision. She has more time to prepare to RG.

ans
May 11th, 2003, 10:07 PM
Hey ans, I could care less about Justine and how am I like Lesile to Kim? :confused:

more or less unfair, i think

Mercury Rising
May 11th, 2003, 10:08 PM
But I agree. She was very respectful toward Serena. So she should shut up about her.
Hehe good one ;)

Serendy Willick
May 11th, 2003, 10:08 PM
I'm calling you a moron because you are one. Justine didn't say the headline. That's what headline writers are for. Then you put that in quotes. If she had said that, it would have been in quotes in the headline. Because, see, only things in quotes are verbatim.

So, now you see when you put something she didn't say in quotes, you got everyone into a tizzy for no reason other than your ignorance.

But I agree. She was very respectful toward Serena. So she should shut up about her.


And I am calling you a bitch because you are one, while I apoligize for quoting the headline, I still stand by my statement from two post above.

Serendy Willick
May 11th, 2003, 10:10 PM
more or less unfair, i think


How am I unfair, I dont go starting threads about her.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 10:15 PM
Hmm, thats real cute, I love how a bitch can call me a moron because I dont agree with with the article that I posted. I continue to stand by my statement that Henin-Hardenne shouldve shut up about Serena, period.

You are a MORON because you put words into Justine's mouth. She didn't say what you claimed she said. It had nothing to do with your agreeing or not agreeing to anything. I guess people have to be licensed by you to speak about Serena?

Anyway... here's the press conference. Quite mild once you get the press out of it.

F: Ist es für Sie eine Enttäuschung, dass die Williams Schwestern nicht hier sind oder sehen Sie es als Chance?
A: Ich spiele einfach Match für Match. Wenn sie nicht gekommen sind, dann haben sie sicher ihre Gründe. Es ist ihre Entscheidung und ich will dazu nichts sagen. Ich bin hier und das ist wichtig. Ich spiele gerne in Berlin.

F: Meinen Sie, dass Sie näher an ihnen dran sind als zuvor?
A: Mit Sicherheit. Aber ich kann noch viel besser werden. Ich bin noch nicht bei 100% meiner Möglichkeiten angelangt und das ist auch gut so. Ich kann mich noch viel verändern. Ich habe Serena dieses Jahr zum ersten Mal geschlagen. Ich weiß, dass sie nach wie vor eine harte, großartige Gegnerin ist. Wenn sie zurückkommt, wird sie eine sehr harte Gegnerin sein.


I guess she should have said..... Sorry, I can't answer those questions because I'm not supposed to talk about Serena. lol.... Absurd! lol... another "a" word.

jenny161185
May 11th, 2003, 10:28 PM
Justine was respectful after she beat serena and called her a great champion whats wrong with that?? I think she should of said more after serena said her game was down 9000 notches. So she said shes ready for them and she is shes proved that by beating Serena and winning Berlin. :worship:

Astro Jetson
May 11th, 2003, 10:31 PM
I also didn't like when she expressed disppointment in 2001 when Kim won player of the year in Belgium

Oh no, this keeps going and going. And where did you read that. You heard it on this board? From someone who read a flemish paper or heard it from a flemish sports commentator? I want to see the article. I want to see quotes of Justine saying it please!
There clearly has been some one-sided information spread on this board in the past. Never can win this, so :wavey:

selesfan
May 11th, 2003, 10:34 PM
Oh no, this keeps going and going. And where did you read that. You heard it on this board? From someone who read a flemish paper or heard it from a flemish sports commentator? I want to see the article. I want to see quotes of Justine saying it please!
There clearly has been some one-sided information spread on this board in the past. Never can win this, so :wavey:

Actually, I think I read it on CBS sportsline, its so long ago, I can't remember. Most of the Kim fans like Justine also so I don't think I heard it from them. It wasn't a big deal just a bit disappointing, its not like it made me hate Justine. I had always liked Kim a little more than Justine.

treufreund
May 11th, 2003, 10:47 PM
OMG! Get your head out of your asses folks. That was an article title, not a quote. Some of you are just HOPING to find a hint of a legitimate reason to hate on Justine and Kim.

jbone_0307
May 11th, 2003, 10:49 PM
Why doesn't Dokic get the bye!! Shes the #9 seed and now should be the #8 and taken Myskinas place. I hate late withdrawals

Amanda
May 11th, 2003, 10:52 PM
She'll be saying bye-bye after her first match loss.

tenn_ace
May 11th, 2003, 11:38 PM
Williams fans should just give up this doubles standard bull*** talk... If Williamses played as many tournaments as Kim, Juju, Linci, other top 10 girls play, fans would not have had any problem with them pulling out once in a while.

wise move Justine! I was hoping you'd do that! :)

Tratree
May 11th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Well that sucks that she waited so long to pull out...the lower half is pathetic and the top half is crammed up with top players. Tendinitis sure is a "convenient" one to pull out when one wants a week off.

starr
May 11th, 2003, 11:59 PM
It's been used before...... ;)

But really, she couldn't pull out with an injury when she was still playing in Berlin, could she?

DiZZiA
May 12th, 2003, 01:56 AM
Why doesn't Dokic get the bye!! Shes the #9 seed and now should be the #8 and taken Myskinas place. I hate late withdrawals

Becoz' the Monday Order of Play already been released before Justine's withdrawal...

A smart move of Justine.... She is really focusing to win the RG2003!!! ;)
And I hope she will do it.... coz' she is the best claycourter out there right now!! :D

shap_half
May 12th, 2003, 01:59 AM
Hmm, thats real cute, I love how a bitch can call me a moron because I dont agree with with the article that I posted. I continue to stand by my statement that Henin-Hardenne shouldve shut up about Serena, period.


What exactly did you not want her to say:

the fact that Serena is a great champion

or

that she will be ready for her when she returns?

yeah that's really rude...:rolleyes:

Hey Luci, I just want to say that I'll be ready for your reply!!

wongqks
May 12th, 2003, 02:03 AM
some Belgian fans will always criticise willaims siter withdrawal

some williams fans will always criticise belgains withdrawal.

Just coz some people say something infavourable things about your fav do not mean that you have the right to attack their fav...

when can people realise that point ...

Jericho
May 12th, 2003, 02:15 AM
Williams fans should just give up this doubles standard bull*** talk... If Williamses played as many tournaments as Kim, Juju, Linci, other top 10 girls play, fans would not have had any problem with them pulling out once in a while.

wise move Justine! I was hoping you'd do that! :)

This response is proof of those double standards...just because the williams sisters dont play as much they are allowed to get bashed for withdrawing :rolleyes: ...that is too funny...whats next? If the williams sisters lost as much as the other players then fans wouldnt have any problem about them saying how they played poorly... :rolleyes:

tenn_ace
May 12th, 2003, 04:39 AM
This response is proof of those double standards...just because the williams sisters dont play as much they are allowed to get bashed for withdrawing :rolleyes: ...that is too funny...whats next? If the williams sisters lost as much as the other players then fans wouldnt have any problem about them saying how they played poorly... :rolleyes:

it's a waste of time to argue with you... let's wait when Serena and Venus play the full schedule and see how fans react to their sudden withdrawal to talk about double standards.

and for the record, I have never bashed either one of them for pulling out of the tournament, but I understand why other might have problem with it :o .

gorecki
May 12th, 2003, 05:36 AM
Get some rest and be 100% for Roland Garros Juju! :)

WtaTour4Ever
May 12th, 2003, 05:39 AM
Smart move on JuJu's part ...she appears to have her game together and I'd hate for her to extend herself to the point where she can't play her best the second week of RG!

Vut
May 12th, 2003, 05:58 AM
Good Luck JuJu in RG :):)

xin
May 12th, 2003, 06:11 AM
Justine was respectful after she beat serena and called her a great champion whats wrong with that?? I think she should of said more after serena said her game was down 9000 notches. So she said shes ready for them and she is shes proved that by beating Serena and winning Berlin. :worship:


Justine avoid saying things about other players now. I don't think she is so cautious before. I would like her to speak more straight-forwards. Just tell what she really thinks but it caused trouble for her. I understand that. I don't think a player should be blamed for telling their real feelings or thoughts as long as it was not ridiculous. But again, who should judge whether the statements made by players are ridiculous? People will argue for double standard, double standard... Really, I really want to know what the players really think about each other's game and personality.

xin
May 12th, 2003, 06:18 AM
Actually, I think I read it on CBS sportsline, its so long ago, I can't remember. Most of the Kim fans like Justine also so I don't think I heard it from them. It wasn't a big deal just a bit disappointing, its not like it made me hate Justine. I had always liked Kim a little more than Justine.

Yes, I think Justine did voice disappointment. But why not and what's wrong with that. She shouldn't be disappointed :confused: And why did you said she didn't congrats Kim for the award? You were just pulling one sentence out of the whole text. :mad:
Justine should be disappointed because in year 2001, there weren't so much between them as in year 2002 where Kim clearly achieved better results.

Chance
May 12th, 2003, 11:25 AM
Glad Justine withdrew from Rome, I didn't want Justine to overplay.. just a pity they couldn't alter the draw but that's not Juju's fault.

I also think there is a double standard when a williams withdraw. I mean when Venus or Serena withdraw people analyse and psychoanalyse them and start conspiracy theories.....that's just my humble opinion

rikvanlooy
May 12th, 2003, 11:41 AM
Justine avoid saying things about other players now. I don't think she is so cautious before. I would like her to speak more straight-forwards. Just tell what she really thinks but it caused trouble for her. I understand that. I don't think a player should be blamed for telling their real feelings or thoughts as long as it was not ridiculous. But again, who should judge whether the statements made by players are ridiculous? People will argue for double standard, double standard... Really, I really want to know what the players really think about each other's game and personality.

I'm not that sure. Justine says a lot more than Kim. I've heard statements of Justine that Kim would never utter (eg. I want to become the number one). I have no problem with that. You have to have a lot of conficence to be able to win. It's one of the reasons why the Sisters win that much. A lot of players are intimitaded by them and don't play that well against them.

fleemke³
May 12th, 2003, 02:21 PM
:sad: bad luck for me :sad: but if she wins RG I'll forgive her :worship:

persond
May 12th, 2003, 05:45 PM
well i think people since the beginning of the season when justine announced her plans for a full schedule, most of the posters have expressed their concerns about the situation. many felt that she might be overdoing it by taking on so many commitments. now that she has pulled out of rome, people are congratulating her because that is what people wanted her to do. if venus backs out and people didn't want her to and people have expressed their feelings that she should continue to play why would they support her if they don't agree (i'm talking in general of course and no one situation or player specifically).


:cool: And, you're really trying to "justify the bullshit"...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Please, seriously look at what you just wrote...!!! Complete and utter "bullshit"...!!!

At least "call a spade, a spade"...!!!

persond
May 12th, 2003, 05:51 PM
oh come on, you must be joking. The reactions depend on the occasion, every situation is different and here it's really obvious that justine SHOULd withdraw from playing in rome

:cool: You people are so fucking "transparent", it's no longer "funny"...!!! "open your EYES and SEE the bullshit, already...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

persond
May 12th, 2003, 06:15 PM
it's a waste of time to argue with you... let's wait when Serena and Venus play the full schedule and see how fans react to their sudden withdrawal to talk about double standards.

and for the record, I have never bashed either one of them for pulling out of the tournament, but I understand why other might have problem with it :o .

Where is your "common sense"...??? It shouldn't matter how much or how less the Sisters play..."fair is fair"!!! And, when you set yourself up as "judge" and "jury", equal and just consideration for "all parties", should prevail. My mother use to say, "what's good for the goose, should also be good for the "gander"....!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

shap_half
May 12th, 2003, 06:46 PM
:cool: And, you're really trying to "justify the bullshit"...!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Please, seriously look at what you just wrote...!!! Complete and utter "bullshit"...!!!

At least "call a spade, a spade"...!!!

what are you talking about?!? you're not making any sense. :rolleyes:

persond
May 12th, 2003, 07:06 PM
what are you talking about?!? you're not making any sense. :rolleyes:

:cool: The "shiete" you posted was truely "gobbledygook"...!!! :p :p :p :p

*No wonder you don't understand* :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Mercury Rising
May 12th, 2003, 07:21 PM
Hey persond why do you wank so much these days? A little bored? I'm getting bored at seeing you're posts, they're all the same ridiculous nagging.

shap_half
May 13th, 2003, 02:27 AM
:cool: The "shiete" you posted was truely "gobbledygook"...!!! :p :p :p :p

*No wonder you don't understand* :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


what i don't understand is you mock people's post and call it "shiete" but you're not saying why. i think it's because you are stupid...

tenn_ace
May 13th, 2003, 04:26 AM
Where is your "common sense"...??? It shouldn't matter how much or how less the Sisters play..."fair is fair"!!! And, when you set yourself up as "judge" and "jury", equal and just consideration for "all parties", should prevail. My mother use to say, "what's good for the goose, should also be good for the "gander"....!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

ok have it your way, just don't cry little p*ssy :rolleyes: :p

persond
May 13th, 2003, 06:15 AM
Hey persond why do you wank so much these days? A little bored? I'm getting bored at seeing you're posts, they're all the same ridiculous nagging.

:cool: I just may be after reading "all these flakey azz posters' posts"...

"You people are so "full of shit" that it is funny!!!"