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niceman
May 8th, 2003, 06:12 PM
should:
Asia
1. Seoul
other than Greece, Korea is the only on where
there is no WTA tournament held in the country
among the countries that have held summer Olympics,
even China has one already in Shanghai, a Tier II status
most likely will be upgraded, and Taipei/HK held one before,
i dont know why they dont have one there,
replace: Tokyo had 3 last yr, Seoul should replace a Tier III
2. Maldives
no other reason than it's just too beautiful there not to have one
replace: Tashkent, always weak, maybe the
scenery of Maldives can attract more commitment and spectators,
even though Uzebekstian should have one
3.Bangkok
in Thailand, Paradon is like the super star, and they
have a couple of juniors coming out there that's not too bad,
i guess moving to Pattaya is the same reason as Jakarta to Bali,
it's a lot better place to have a vacation......
replace: possibly Pattaya
4. Singapore/Guala Lapur/Manilla
if Bali ever got cancelled, one of these cities should
be able to sponsor one i believe
Bali: if it's ever cancelled

America
Vancouver
well, i live here, and i really hope for one here too,
the challenger event here is quite popular IMO,
but there is only 25K......why not try to upgrade it,
this is what i hope, move Quebec City to Vancouver,
replace: Quebec City, too many on the East Coast (2 in fact)

South America
1. Sao Paul
i thought this is a good place to have a clay event
in Brazil where Gustav is from,
just somewhere from Brazil
replace: Bahai last yr that's canceled this yr
2. Santiago/Buenos Aires
understand about Argentine's situation,
so why not in Chiles......where Gonzalez is from
replace: one of the American's green clay tournament, Sarasota
or Doha coz the week after that is Bogota, then Apaculo.
so they can be plaed in a series for clay specialists



Europe
1. Barcelona
for obvious reasons, ATP Master is here, why not WTA?
replace: Hamburg
2. Athens
the coming of Eleni is almost perfect for 2004 Olympics,
i hope there will be tennis tournaments happening there
coz i believe the court should be ready already
replace: Tashkent: good place to do an RG followup IMO

3. Jerusalem
the Holy Open, sponsored by 3 religious organizations
as a signature of peace....wouldnt that be great?
so if Dubai ever got cancelled, this is a nice place to have one too
replace: Doha, if Arabs an have one, why not the Jews....
4. Milan
i thought Palermo could move here,
coz just think of the clothes they might be wearing on court
replace: Estoril that's canceled
5. Amsterdam
even though Netherland already has one,
i dont really understand why not here?
coz this is such a nice place to play
replace: that another tournament played in Netherland
4. Coppenhagan/Bucharest/Stockhlem/Klev/Minsk
Romania and Sweden should have their own tournaments
replace: just a new one to add

Africa
1. Johanassberg
Diamond Open......more dersved so than Antwerp i think
with Amanda Coetzer, i thought South Africa
should have a tournament as a celebration
to this player........somehow there is none there,
replace: now doubts about this, coz
there is someone saying it's not really safe to hold one there
2. Cairo
i just think it is a cool place to hold one....
replace: one of the European clay events


should not:
not that they shouldnt be there, but i just dont know why
they are there?..........
1. too many in the country
-there should be one less tournament in Australia,
there are 5, that's a lot, why not give other countries a chance
-Sopot, there arent too many famours Polish players,
for some reason there is a Warsaw that's upgraded,
-Tokyo, 3 in a country is a lot, 3 in a city...that is unacceptable
someone else needs to have it in their own country too,
this year they got better, there are only 2,

2. why is it there?
-Qutar/Dubai........
i understand there should be one in MiddleEast
but there hasnt been too many successful people from there,
-Helsinki........isnt it cold?
-Memphis? in understand Nashville, but Memphis?
Charleston? New Heaven?........
why them instead of
Washington, Seattle, Detroit........
doesnt really make sense to me why some of the
bigger cities dont have one

anymore suggestion?

Spirit
May 8th, 2003, 06:20 PM
Dallas!

Right now, if I want to see a Tier II or higher within 1,000 miles of here (and that's just barely), I have as my choices Scottsdale, Scottsdale and Scottsdale. And sometimes Scottsdale.

Less than a 1,000 miles away? Forget it.

Los Angeles also holds at least two a year now, with the Championships. And it seems like every tennis charity event happens in New England. No one comes to the middle of the U.S. :sad:

Jarrett
May 8th, 2003, 06:31 PM
I think Houston, Texas needs a WTA Tour event again. With the Men's Clay Court Championships being so successful and the Year-End Championship for the ATP being here, we need a women's event again. Tennis is becoming very popular here. Actually all sports. With all of our new stadiums being bulit were are becoming very sports oriented. We are getting the big events because of them. The NFL SuperBowl in 2004 and MLB All-star Game in 2004 and the ATP year-end championships in 2003 and 2004. We are having a exhibition futbol game between Mexico vs USA (in the Reliant Stadium) this week and the tickets have sold so well that they are seriously talking about getting a professional team for Houston. They also think if the women's World Cup is moved to the US because of SARS, Houston will be at the top of the list as the venue. I can't believe they are building and indoor tennis stadium for the ATP Champs. They could get a women's event in the fall then, before their championships in LA. :) :bounce: :bounce:

Cariaoke
May 8th, 2003, 06:33 PM
Atlanta needs a tournament, ATP or WTA, period. It's completely idiotic not to have one in Georgia when California, Florida, Texas and New England have MULTIPLE events. :rolleyes:

No more southern cali tourneys, please! :devil:

CapFan#1
May 8th, 2003, 06:33 PM
Chicago or Detroit!!! And I would love it if it were a combined event -women& men- I think tennis needs more of these!!

Spirit
May 8th, 2003, 06:50 PM
Houston, Dallas, Chicago....

At least a Tier II or higher somewhere in the central time zone!!!!!

MarcusRock
May 8th, 2003, 06:52 PM
I vote for Nome, Alaska and Peoria, Illinois (both outdoors in January). Those are some serious tennis people starved for some tennis action. What say ye, WTA Tour?

Kirt12255
May 8th, 2003, 06:58 PM
A WTA tourney in Adelaide....this city has produced Hewitt and Molik....I know there is a Mens even't.....how about a ladies? Perhaps towards the end of the year? :wavey:

Kirt12255
May 8th, 2003, 06:59 PM
:wavey: With this sad SARS happening....could be an option?

Jarrett
May 8th, 2003, 07:03 PM
Look, Houston is the best choice. ;)

From the ATP site:
March 17, 2003

Houston Named City of the Year By International Tennis Hall of Fame

The International Tennis Hall of Fame announced today that Houston, Texas has been selected as the 2003 "City of the Year." The Hall of Fame's City of the Year program was inaugurated in 1989 and honors cities for their contributions to the sport of tennis.

The "City of the Year" program challenges tennis organizations within a selected city to expand public awareness of tennis, encourage increased participation in the sport at all levels, while emphasizing the character-building and development of youth tennis players. Houston was selected as "City of the Year" because of its outstanding tennis leaders and junior tennis programming, in addition to the dedication and commitment of bringing quality tennis events to the area.

The state of Texas has become one of America's promising tennis regions, with more than 47,000 registered United States Tennis Association (USTA) members. The Houston Tennis Association has over 3,600 registered members and the Houston National Junior Tennis League (NJTL) experienced a participation increase of 30% this past year, with more than 4,000 kids swinging racquets in community tennis programs.

Currently, Houston's Westside Tennis Club is the home of the US Men's Clay Court Championships. Since 2001, this tournament has become one of the ATP's most successful events, which features top players Andre Agassi, Pete Sampras, and Andy Roddick. This success prompted the USTA to select Houston as the site of the 2002 Davis Cup Quarterfinal between the US and Spain. A highly successful international event, it received local support from former President George Bush and numerous Houston dignitaries.

Owners of the Westside Tennis Club, Jim and Linda McIngvale, are committed Houston tennis leaders, and put together a successful bid for the Tennis Masters Cup in 2003 and 2004. The culminating event of the professional season, the Tennis Masters Cup features the top seven players in the ATP Champions Race, plus eligible Grand Slam champions, and has featured the crowning of the World No. 1 each of the past three years. Due in large part to the enthusiasm of Houston's leaders, the Tennis Masters Cup will be combined with the Tennis Masters Cup Doubles in 2003 and 2004, marking a combination of the events for the first time since 1985. The event will be staged in a new 8,500 seat outdoor stadium, and will be lit for night play.

Houston is also the home of the World Headquarters of the United States Professional Tennis Association (USPTA). Founded in 1927, USPTA is the world's oldest and largest association of tennis-teaching professionals. With more than 12,500 members worldwide, USPTA strives to raise the standards of the tennis profession while promoting greater awareness of the sport.

Houston's tennis history also includes: the first Virginia Slims tournament was played in Houston on September 23, 1970, and was the groundbreaker for all Virginia Slims future tournaments; in 1973, the Houston Astrodome set the stage for the "Battle of the Sexes" match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs, where 30,000+ tennis fans gathered in the dome to watch this historic event; and former WTA professional Zina Garrison, the world's No. 4 ranked player in 1989, is a Houston native.

Houston is the eleventh city to be honored by the International Tennis Hall of Fame as "City of the Year." For the full list, go to www.tennisfame.com, Hall of Fame Awards.

The International Tennis Hall of Fame is a non-profit organization dedicated to preserving the history and heritage of tennis and its champions. For more information regarding the International Tennis Hall of Fame and its programs, please call 401-849-3990. Visit our web site at www.tennisfame.com.

maccardel
May 8th, 2003, 07:07 PM
One of the Los Angeles tourneys should move to Boston or a USopen warmup should be added to Boston cos toronto and new haven is not the same week and more than top ten players need the practice, I think that a tier II or III or IV should be added. I'd like to think that the players 25 and below need to be out there getting in as much work as possible and the location would be great for the travel.

AjdeNate!
May 8th, 2003, 07:47 PM
Chicago and Brasil should have their events back.

selesfan1
May 8th, 2003, 08:03 PM
Oklahoma City, The Green Bay Packers of Tennis.

Tripp
May 8th, 2003, 08:20 PM
I think Santiago, Buenos Aires, or Montevideo should have a tournament. South American players have a really hard time in the tour, they only have one tournament in Colombia, and one in Brazil, and I think that a country like Australia, for example, doesn't produce enough players to have 5 tournaments. And the US have too many tournaments, if you think about it, an american player could be in the top 100 travelling 3 or 4 times a year, and that's not fair for all the other countries.

rhz
May 8th, 2003, 08:44 PM
Asia: Jakarta, Beijing, Seoul, Hongkong
Europe: Athens, Monte Carlo, Stockholm, Barcelona
Americas: Honolulu, Chicago, Las Vegas, Buenos Aires, Rio De Janairo, and somewhere in the Carribean
Africa: Cairo, Johannesburg
Australia: One of the Pacific Ocean Countries

baleineau
May 8th, 2003, 09:10 PM
why is athens listed as being in Asia rather than Europe? :confused:

Jordan.
May 8th, 2003, 09:13 PM
Houston!!!

CJ07
May 8th, 2003, 09:15 PM
DC!!!

Why NO Events In Dc??
They have a mens there, and it'd be popular

Whatzup
May 8th, 2003, 09:16 PM
Amsterdam :D It's a great city and I think it deserves a Tier 2 or Tier 1 tournament. The Netherlands has everything except a big womens tennis tournament. So much people do play tennis here! Every town has more than 3 tennisclubs, tennis is here with football and hockey (ice sceating ;) ) the most popular sport!

But yeah Amsterdam deserves it!!!

What do you think? :D

chiara_ridolfi
May 8th, 2003, 09:34 PM
I always thought that, considering all the players they've produced, it's wierd Spain only has one small tournement. So I'm saying Barcelona.

And Tikrit, maybe.

Dava
May 8th, 2003, 09:35 PM
MANCHESTER!!

There should be an indoor event at the G-MEX or somewhere like that, they could definatly host it no problems.

Rtael
May 8th, 2003, 10:40 PM
Well...the thing about South American tennis tournaments is that tournaments aren't added because of players in that country, but rather if they actually get an audience when they hold a tournament there

SueBarker
May 8th, 2003, 10:56 PM
Well, I'm sure Paignton in Devon could host a fine tournament, but I'd suggest Manchester. They have a super 20,000 seater arena and as the Commonwealth Games, which I presented coverage of, highlighted, the Manchester public love their sport and would be fine hosts to the women of the WTA.

Pamela Shriver
May 8th, 2003, 10:59 PM
I think Baltimore should hold the US Open. I mean, why should NYC get everything!??!
Then we could rename it PamOpen and I could play, pammentate AND run it. Pamtastic.

SueBarker
May 8th, 2003, 11:01 PM
Pam, if Baltimore gets the Open, then Paignton, my beloved hometown, needs something. How about a Tier79 warm-up for Wimbledon?

ClareBalding
May 8th, 2003, 11:10 PM
Great idea, tally-ho Susan! And I could get to Paignton to commentate then rush back in my CommentatorMobile to Haydock for the 2.30, stop at the gentleman's club for a scotch then run back to Wimbledon to regale my beloved viewers/listeners with my extensive sporting knowledge!

ClareBalding
May 8th, 2003, 11:11 PM
PS. Sue, M&S have got some great deals on silky pink shirts, really something.

PPS. When can I be on A Question of Sport again?? Pleeeeeease suzy?? I've been revising all year!

SueBarker
May 8th, 2003, 11:12 PM
Clare, I'll speak to the bosses and see when we're next doing a horsey special.

Pink shirts? M&S? I'm there! *rushing off to camp outside local M&S*

ClareBalding
May 8th, 2003, 11:18 PM
Horsey special! Hoor-rah! I'll get my stirrups out ready. I just hope I don't continue having a battle with the scales :(

QoS was always my favourite programme. I have the theme tune on LP and I listen to it every day while lying on my bed gazing up at posters of Bill Baumont, Ian Botham, Cliff Morgan, Emlyn Hughes...and of course my shrine to you Sue...
---I've said too much----

SueBarker
May 8th, 2003, 11:21 PM
Well, I understand Clare. After all, I am blonde, beautiful and I did win the French Open in 1976.

ClareBalding
May 8th, 2003, 11:31 PM
Yes, I have that match on tape and play it continuously on loop, while listening to my LP of QoS.

I'm your no.1 fan.

If you ever go driving in the snow, don't forget to pop by my ranch when you crash the car....I've got a spare room....

joaco
May 9th, 2003, 12:48 AM
ARGENTINA!!!!
A 1000000 times better than Chile!!!

Joaco (I would literary drop dead if a WTA tourney was done in Buenos Aires ;)

ys
May 9th, 2003, 01:17 AM
Africa: Cairo, Johannesburg


Johannesbourg? Do you want them to play on altitude of 2K? Besides, I can't imagine a full-blown tennis tournament there.. You can have an exhibition there - because it's only 2 players and you can take care of them. But 30 rich and pretty women in a world capital in rape, hijacking and murder? You'll have to lock them in their hotels then..
Cape Town - I would probably agree..

Fingon
May 9th, 2003, 01:23 AM
should not:
not that they shouldnt be there, but i just dont know why
they are there?..........
1. too many in the country
-there should be one less tournament in Australia,
there are 5, that's a lot, why not give other countries a chance

I don't really think so, Australia is one of the few countries where people really like tennis, it's not about how many players they have, but what kind of interest the tournaments generate, and it's high in Australia.

They have given other countries a chance and they have failed.

-Sopot, there arent too many famours Polish players,
for some reason there is a Warsaw that's upgraded,


There aren't too many famous british player and the most important tournament in the world is in London

I agree with Warsaw though, I don't know what it was upgraded instead of Madrid or Vienna.

-Tokyo, 3 in a country is a lot, 3 in a city...that is unacceptable
someone else needs to have it in their own country too,
this year they got better, there are only 2,


well, the japanese have money, that's a very important consideration.

2. why is it there?
-Qutar/Dubai........
i understand there should be one in MiddleEast
but there hasnt been too many successful people from there,


well, then the only choice would be Israel, that has a somehow succesful player. Again, the reason is simple: Money.

-Helsinki........isnt it cold?


so is Moscow, or Sweden, or Toronto, or Montreal.


-Memphis? in understand Nashville, but Memphis?
Charleston? New Heaven?........
why them instead of
Washington, Seattle, Detroit........
doesnt really make sense to me why some of the
bigger cities dont have one


maybe because Charleston and New Haven have the facilities

You have to understand that this isn't about being fair, it's a business, you need a lot of money to organize a tournament, the WTA isn't a democracy, not even the olympic committed, it's a corporate entity that has to try to make the sport as succesful as possible, they will never even think if it's fair to have a tournament somewher or not, but if the tournament can be well organized and financed.

*JR*
May 9th, 2003, 01:24 AM
Baghdad (music director J. Capriati)! :eek: :p

DutchieGirl
May 9th, 2003, 01:53 AM
btw, Australia shouldn't have less than 5 tourneys - they are lead in tourneys to a GS, and you have to have enough tourneys for players in the GS to play. Don't forget, the 5 tourneys we have only last 4 weeks (and that's ony coz the GS is two weeks long). And if you take away the fact that the Aussie Open AND Sydney are both mens and womens, it only leaves us with 3 women's only events! Not that many!

DutchieGirl
May 9th, 2003, 01:54 AM
Oh and yes, I thnk Amsterdam should have a tourney - I always thought it was weird that Den Bosch has one, and Amsterdam not!

Ted of Teds Tennis
May 9th, 2003, 03:06 AM
Inkyfan: Why do you call it "Den Bosch"? Shouldn't you torment the non-speakers of Dutch by calling it 's-Hertogenbosch? :)

Prudence
May 9th, 2003, 03:17 AM
The USA should have more tournaments. They have lots of players and lots of fans.... tournaments flourish over there.

I also think here in the UK, there should be more than just grass court tournaments. They should at least bring back the old Brighton indoors tournament at least. I am also surprised that Spain, Canada, and South Africa don't have more tournaments.

redrocket
May 9th, 2003, 07:00 AM
Definately Cape Town should have a tournament. It should be played before or after the Aussie Open cos the weather is best then and similar conditions to Melbourne. Not Jo'burg though cos all the tennis that gets played in SA (however, little it is) is always played there or near to it.

baleineau
May 9th, 2003, 08:57 AM
it's weird about Spain - tier III in Madrid for the women and that's it.

Barcelona is one of europe's leading tennis centres, yet the women are neglected. I would have thought the rise of ASV and Martinez in the 1990s would have had some effect, but it went the other way. there was a tier III in Barcelona until about 1995, but then Madrid took over. Portugal has two small tournaments, so you'd think Spain would have a Tier I or at least a Tier II in Barcelona.

I guess the clay season is crowded enough, and immediate competitors (Berlin and Rome) are strong, established tournaments. I think Rome is one of the oldest in fact, among the non-Slams.

I think Fed Cup takes up too much time, and eats into the already congested March-May period. It would be better to start Clay one week earlier in Europe, with the sequence being Barcelona, Berlin, Rome, with Barcelona replacing the now defunct Hamburg tournament.

Messenger
May 9th, 2003, 09:03 AM
Spain doesn't have a tier II tournament does it? If Germany, Switzerland and Italy have tier I's Spain should definitely have at least a tier II.

TheBoiledEgg
May 9th, 2003, 09:15 AM
the German Open is the 4th oldest event in tennis

after
Wimbledon
US Open
Canadian Open

anyways
I can see a WTA event in St Petersburg too :)

Barcelona used to have a Tier 2
heard they gonna bring it back and host it jointly with the mens Mega event.

SerialKiller#69
May 9th, 2003, 11:27 AM
it's Manila not Manilla.

Spirit
May 9th, 2003, 01:16 PM
But -- overall -- is the world saturated with tournaments?

We sports fans, particularly tennis, want things both ways: we want our favorites to stay healthy and rested, yet we want tournaments in every corner of the globe all year long. Players often complain that the tour is already too long and too demanding, and I'm not sure they're wrong.

Like niceman pointed out in his original post, some cities have more than one tournament while other parts of this globe don't have any important tournaments anywhere near. (A map showing all of this would be interesing.)

So if you think this is the case, then for every new tournament you want, be sure to name which one you want it to replace. I'm not sure it's possible to add any more events to the WTA tour.

I want one in Houston or Dallas, and I think it should replace one of the Southern California tournaments.

Whatzup
May 9th, 2003, 01:26 PM
Amsterdam :D This great city deserves a Tier 1 or Tier 2 :D

Experimentee
May 9th, 2003, 01:57 PM
Asia should have more tournaments. Look at the success of the Shanghai Masters Cup. Asians love to watch tennis.
I think the USA has too many tournaments, some states even have three. Even though its a big country its still too much. Australia doesnt have much at all, and they are important for lead up to Aus Open, and there is only ever a maximum of one for every state, which is so people from every state will have a tournament to watch.

venusfan
May 9th, 2003, 02:30 PM
SHOULD:

Jamaica W.I
Puerto Rico
Congo
Iraq


Should Not:

France
Canada
Germany
England
Scottland
Italy

niceman
May 9th, 2003, 03:48 PM
[QUOTE='Spirit']


So if you think this is the case, then for every new tournament you want, be sure to name which one you want it to replace. I'm not sure it's possible to add any more events to the WTA tour.
[QUOTE]
good idea, i'll do that

Andre@
May 9th, 2003, 04:18 PM
South America
1. Sao Paul
i thought this is a good place to have a clay event
in Brazil where Gustav is from,
just somewhere from Brazil
replace: Bahai last yr that's canceled this yr


I think Rio de Janeiro is much better than São Paulo and Bahia
Sao Paulo rain almost every day.
and RIO DE JANEIRO the city is the most beautifull city in Brazil

niceman
May 11th, 2003, 07:39 AM
too bad Bahia is cancelled......:(

fifiricci
May 11th, 2003, 08:45 AM
Well, I'm sure Paignton in Devon could host a fine tournament, but I'd suggest Manchester. They have a super 20,000 seater arena and as the Commonwealth Games, which I presented coverage of, highlighted, the Manchester public love their sport and would be fine hosts to the women of the WTA.

If we're talking about the UK, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, now its got a retracting roof. Is a fabulous stadium.

ASV
May 11th, 2003, 03:40 PM
Atlantic City should have a Tier IV. It hosted Monica's comeback beyond expectations, and could easily host one. Casinos have shows all the time, and there could be a joint-casino venture held in none other than the refurbished Boardwalk Hall. It's a nice city, as long as you don't walk outside, and there are PLENTY of tennis fans around here. Maybe I'll host it one day...you watch and see ;)

niceman
May 12th, 2003, 11:02 PM
i thought some of the places can host both
men and women's tournaments, but i
guess it's probably coz of the money problem,
or Barcelona can surely make one,

also Atlantic City should have one,
they got the money and everything,
even though US does have an exccessive
number of tournaments comparing to Asia...
the total # of tournaments outside America/
Australia/Europe=10,
while America has 12 tournaments
not counting the Slam and year end champ,

but still hoping Vancouver will get one.....:)

ToeTag
May 13th, 2003, 01:16 AM
venusfan,you've put Canada on your shouldnot list,thats kind of silly considering that outside the slams,the Roger's AT&T Cup is one of the most if not the most successful tournament :D

Tratree
May 13th, 2003, 01:19 AM
But -- overall -- is the world saturated with tournaments?

We sports fans, particularly tennis, want things both ways: we want our favorites to stay healthy and rested, yet we want tournaments in every corner of the globe all year long. Players often complain that the tour is already too long and too demanding, and I'm not sure they're wrong.

Like niceman pointed out in his original post, some cities have more than one tournament while other parts of this globe don't have any important tournaments anywhere near. (A map showing all of this would be interesing.)

So if you think this is the case, then for every new tournament you want, be sure to name which one you want it to replace. I'm not sure it's possible to add any more events to the WTA tour.

I want one in Houston or Dallas, and I think it should replace one of the Southern California tournaments.
Texas can get their own tournaments.....all of our Southern California tournaments are very successful and staying put :)

Wait, I know you're gonna bring up the Championships @ Staples.....it will be better this year if the WTA gets off it's collective ass and promotes it. If I were them I would have mass promotion at the California hard court tourneys this summer, but then again that might be too good of an idea for the WTA.

DutchieGirl
May 13th, 2003, 01:25 AM
Inkyfan: Why do you call it "Den Bosch"? Shouldn't you torment the non-speakers of Dutch by calling it 's-Hertogenbosch? :)lol oh god - I get so sick of commentators butchering 's-Hertogensbosch that I usually write Den Bosch, and wish that the commentators would just say Rosmalen! ;) Besides, Den Bosch is quicker to write! ;)

Spirit
May 13th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Texas can get their own tournaments.....all of our Southern California tournaments are very successful and staying put. :)

::::Spirit wanders around Southern California with a tin cup and ratty clothes.::::

"Give us a tournament? Give us a tournament, sir? *Ouch!* Thank you, sir, good day, sir. Give us a tournament? Give us a tournament?"
:p

cooolconchita
May 13th, 2003, 03:50 PM
The UK should have an indoor tournie at the end of the season - like the old Brighton event.

Also, pleeease get rid of New Haven and the Wta champs site in L.A! :lick:

ex hopman
May 14th, 2003, 11:05 PM
Tokyo has 2 tournaments now...
Well, Japanese people use $$$ for events.
Concert tickets? $140 sometimes!
There might not be many top pro players...but the population of tennis players r big there! $$$ to play tho...

Manhattan Beach tournament is moving to Dominguez Hills this year... :(

dont_ban_me_plz
Jul 5th, 2003, 09:33 PM
hopefully some of the cities will replace those cancelled ones

TennisHack
Jul 5th, 2003, 09:52 PM
Just a few corrections . . . Barcelona doesn't have a TMS event for the men, but it is very popular :)

Helsinki is moving to Sweden next year, though its sad Finland is losing their tournament :sad:

Most of the 'cold' countries aren't always cold (never been to Scandinavia or Russia, have you), and if they are, they are indoor tournaments (Moscow, for example).

I think there should be more mixed events. And the US already has enough, period. Spread the love a little! ;)

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Jul 5th, 2003, 10:42 PM
Atlanta
Detroit
Chicago
Seattle
Houston/Dallas
Denver

we need a few more American tournaments over here. USA is like Europoe, instead we have states and Europe has countries ;)

disposablehero
Jul 6th, 2003, 01:06 AM
I think its unfortunate that a city with a rich tennis tradition like Hamburg doesn't have a tournament. They should definitely get a $10000 Challenger, maybe even a $25000. :haha:

kku
Jul 6th, 2003, 01:17 AM
Tokyo should hold the WTA Championships, Osaka should hold a Tier I event, Yokohama should host a Tier II and Sapporo should hold a Tier III.

Seoul should hold a Tier III event.

RG should be held in Munich :)

Shooter
Jul 6th, 2003, 02:32 AM
This is an interesting thread. Why do tournaments end up in certain cites? Remember - it's a fluid situation. It changes, slowly, from year to year. Right now the situation is great for us living in southern California. We have the Chase in L.A., the Acura in San Diego, Indian Wells (1.5 hour drive from L.A.), and the Tour Championships in L.A. If you don't mind a 5 hour drive, there's also the tournament at Stanford University near San Francisco. So I can't complain.

Middle America seems to be struggling with tournaments. Oklahoma City and Chicago have both lost events in past years. It's a matter of finding sponsors. A sponsor in Chicago is going to want to put his money behind an event that will appeal to the kind of customers he's going after. Perhaps the Chicago sponsors thought their money could be spent on something better than a woman's tennis tournament? They tried tennis. Maybe attendance was low and they got discouraged? Also, a sponsor in L.A. is not going to want to sponsor an event in Oklahoma City, because that's not where their customers are. So it comes down to local culture. If I'm a potential sponsor in Houston, is it better for me to plunk down my money on a women's tennis tournament or a Monster Truck Rally?

Also, you can't start a tourney anywhere in the world at any time. It has to fit into the context of the tour. If you want to move one of the Australian events, it has to be moved someplace not too far away from Australia - otherwise players won't go there because it's expensive. Plus the new location must have a facility capable of handling a professional tennis tournament. Sarasota started off as a satellite event, then got promoted to a WTA event. This is a reasonable way to test a new location. Let them see if they can run a semi-pro event first. This lets the sponsors test the waters without having to commit so much money.

Middle America has only Memphis and Scottsdale right now, which is kinda weak. I'm surprised that there is no event anywhere in Texas. There must be many facilities in the state capable of holding a WTA tournament (Dallas, Houston, San Antonio?). Guess they can't get sponsors in those cities? What are they spending their money on - Monster Truck Rallies? Beauty Pageants? It's a matter of priorities for the sponsors and women's tennis is on the bottom rung of the ladder in middle America.

toreador
Jul 6th, 2003, 02:33 AM
i believe that after the olympics in athens, tournaments will be held here too...well i hope so;)

Monsters
Sep 24th, 2003, 11:14 PM
please.....have one in Vancouver:D

Martian Willow
Sep 24th, 2003, 11:19 PM
I always thought that, considering all the players they've produced, it's wierd Spain only has one small tournement. So I'm saying Barcelona.

...I agree completely...you should post more... :)

Serendy Willick
Sep 24th, 2003, 11:57 PM
I hope that they get a tournement cracking in St.Louis. Its a great sports loving city, but gawd am I sick and tired of hearing about the Rams, Cardinals, and Blues.

-Sonic-
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:16 AM
I don't mind so much the tournaments all in America, but if they spread out a bit I would find that 'nicer'... lol

Also, I wouldn't give a flying shite if Eastbourne was moved somewhere a little less 1960's. The town is CRAP. It'd cripple the businesses there as the only other patrons are OLD OLD people, but moving it somewhere that isn't on sleeping pills can't be a bad thing. Would ideally have to be somewhere south tho, as I'm a southerner and we're just plain better :p

¤CharlDa¤
Sep 25th, 2003, 12:24 AM
I think the Challenge Bell is good enough in Quebec city, since it won for the last 6 years the best tournament in its category....And of course the two tourneys are in the east, it is where the majority of the population is!

Well you can say you have curling competitions ;)

fammmmedspin
Sep 25th, 2003, 01:55 AM
I loved the concept that Egypt was in Africa but Jerusalem was in Europe. Richard the Lionheart would have approved.

hanafan
Sep 25th, 2003, 02:11 AM
First people in this board seems to ignorate that a few years ago (till early 90's actually) US had big indoors tournaments in almost every big city you wrote about : Washington DC, Boston, Seattle, Dallas, Houston, Princeton, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Denver, Chicago, New Jersey, New York of course Tour Champs at MSG, Las Vegas, Detroit,...

It was a time when the unique sponsor was Virginia Slims, and most of the women's tour was held in the states. Some of these tournaments attracted big crowds (Dallas, Oakland...) and most of them were held during about 15 years and were all equivalent of tiers 1 or 2 ... So there was money and spectators for women's tennis... So why did they almost all disappear? Someone knows?

Kirt12255
Sep 25th, 2003, 02:50 AM
btw, Australia shouldn't have less than 5 tourneys - they are lead in tourneys to a GS, and you have to have enough tourneys for players in the GS to play. Don't forget, the 5 tourneys we have only last 4 weeks (and that's ony coz the GS is two weeks long). And if you take away the fact that the Aussie Open AND Sydney are both mens and womens, it only leaves us with 3 women's only events! Not that many!


:worship: completely agree!!! No wonder there are so many injuries...I also think they need a tournament on En-Tout-Cart (sp?) for the european players coming over here. Push the Aussie Open back 2 weeks and upgrade Hope Island to a tier 1. The schedule I think they need to have....

Hopman Cup
Tier 3 in Darwin (en-tout-cart) 32 player draw

Tier 2 Adelaide (Hardcourt) 32 player draw
Tier 3 Canberra (Hardcourt) 32 player draw

Tier 1 Hope Island (Rebound Ace) 56 player draw

Tier 2 Sydney (Rebound Ace) 28 player draw
Tier 3 Hobart (Rebound Ace) 32 player draw
Tier 3 Traralgon (Hardcourt) 32 player draw

Aus Open

Just what I think they should do....why there is not a tier 1 tourney leading into the Aus Open is beyond me. :wavey: Players are consistantly getting injured at the Aus Open and putting them off the tour for months on end. 3 tourneys the week before the Aus open would allow many players who would miss the cut of some tourneys the chance to get some court time IMO. Sydneys cut off last year was something rediculous like 28....they need more tourneys. :wavey:

FanDeJen
Sep 25th, 2003, 03:06 AM
I´d like an atp or wta tournament in Cancun!!!

PointBlank
Sep 25th, 2003, 04:06 AM
Memphis shouild if you havent noticed Memphis is bigger than Nashville and nashville is a bunch of fuckin rednecks ok sdo if you havent been there k**p your mouth closed and you get to talk to players eat lunch with them and everything and yoiu cant do that many places can ya?

kku
Sep 25th, 2003, 04:34 AM
Roland Garros should be moved to Madrid or Barcelona :bounce:

faboozadoo15
Sep 25th, 2003, 05:07 AM
well cinci is getting a wta even t next year (thank god), but i still think chicago, cleveland, and/or columbus would do soooo well with a wta event. big sports towns that have not a single week of tennis. while la has like 4 and they are getting weaker every year. i say you subsadize that into 2 big, different events at different times of the year and move some to the middle america.

new york is also still quite tennis hungry, but im biased... i really wish they'd move the fuckin championships back... in case u didnt know that abt me already.

i like the idea of a tourney in kuala lampur or singapore... but why not hungary too? (yes, i know i just went from asia to europe)

i think we definitely need a texas tourney, even though i live nowhere near and wouldnt be able to attend... we could move something back to hilton head 2 if you ask me... why did it ever move?

GoldenSlam
Aug 28th, 2004, 10:09 AM
I like the idea of Israel too.

GoldenSlam
Aug 28th, 2004, 12:04 PM
Forest Hill should be cancelled:o.

K8
Aug 28th, 2004, 04:57 PM
i heard that Tier I event in Berlin was held there for the last time this year :confused: and there might some Tier II tournament next year. is that possible that they move J&S Cup from Warsaw to Berlin? :rolleyes: just wondering...