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niceman
May 8th, 2003, 04:58 AM
1-4
Serena Williams (USA) 1056 1
Venus Williams (USA) 618 1
Amelie Mauresmo (FRA) 566 1
Justine Henin-Hardenne (BEL) 551 2

5-8
Chanda Rubin (USA) 499 2
Anastasia Myskina (RUS) 442 3
Eleni Daniilidou (GRE) 439 3
Daniela Hantuchova (SVK) 396 2

9-12
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS) 340 2
Jelena Dokic (YUG) 319 3
Elena Dementieva (RUS) 268 2
Jennifer Capriati (USA) 264 1

13-16
Monica Seles (USA) 262 1
Magdalena Maleeva (BUL) 262 3
Lisa Raymond (USA) 210 2
Daja Bedanova (CZE) 204 3

i'll be back in a month,
the point will change post RG
good luck to all.....:)

points accumulated from 2002 grass tournies......
max tournies=3........

King Lindsay
May 8th, 2003, 05:22 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what that's supposed to show???? That's only those player's performances on grass last year, I don't think that gives much of an indication into how they'll do this year...

Plus, since Lindsay couldn't play last year, it omits the woman who has the second best record on grass in the best three seasons.

niceman
May 8th, 2003, 05:37 AM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what that's supposed to show???? That's only those player's performances on grass last year, I don't think that gives much of an indication into how they'll do this year...

Plus, since Lindsay couldn't play last year, it omits the woman who has the second best record on grass in the best three seasons.
oh, i'm just preparing for the grass season to start,
this shows how they did last yr,

so let's see how these 16 people do on grass this time around......:)
and i'll take points off and add points on there

per4ever
May 8th, 2003, 05:41 AM
Amelie has a better record then Justine? :confused:

Justine reached final and semi-final on wimbledon the last two years..she won Rosmalen two years ago and reached semi's last year. How can Momo possibly do better?

Flatstat
May 8th, 2003, 07:13 AM
Unlike the clay season, it is impossible to rank players on Grass, 4 weeks including the 2 weeks of Wimbledon deems it impossible and this thread dead in the water.

1jackson2001
May 8th, 2003, 07:39 AM
yea, that's true...but how else are u gonna do grass comparisons as there are not much grass tourneys to begin with? Grass is just near to becoming obsolete, unfortunately...

anton
May 8th, 2003, 07:43 AM
venus has won wimbledon twice. serena won only once...

Lisbeth
May 8th, 2003, 07:44 AM
Thanks niceman. I don't know what it will prove but I think it's interesting!

niceman
May 8th, 2003, 04:49 PM
Unlike the clay season, it is impossible to rank players on Grass, 4 weeks including the 2 weeks of Wimbledon deems it impossible and this thread dead in the water.
dont worry.........i realized this already,
that's why i'm keeping this thread dead,
i'll come back and bump this in a month,

niceman
May 8th, 2003, 04:49 PM
of course, that's when i'll play around
with the grass ranking

niceman
May 12th, 2003, 10:11 PM
since all grass tournament commitments are out,
it'll be interesting to review this ranking once again,
the are 3 players outside TOP 15 in WTA ranking
but ranked TOP 16 on grass, they are:
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS) TOP 10 on grass,
defending Wimbledon QF.....
then Lisa Raymond (USA) and Daja Bedanova (CZE)
so keep an eye on them during the grass "season"

the ones in TOP 15 but not on grass
are Lindsay who got injured last yr,
Kim who was off form last yr this time around,
so it'll be interesting to see how the do on grass

disposablehero
May 13th, 2003, 02:30 AM
This is pointless. Are Jelena Dokic's 319 points in 3 events supposed to be that much better than Monica's 262 or Jen's 264 points in 1?

niceman
May 13th, 2003, 05:06 AM
This is pointless. Are Jelena Dokic's 319 points in 3 events supposed to be that much better than Monica's 262 or Jen's 264 points in 1?
yes, that's how those points work,
remember, points are awarded for the matches you "win",
they dont represent how many matches you have lost,
if you know what i mean..............

yes Venus will have more points if WTA only counts
the highest 10 tournaments........but the problem is,
it DOES NOT.............which means, Kim is the #2 player this week,
there is really no point arguing about it......
"presently" Kim is considered to be better than Venus,
maybe not next week, but now, she is......
that's how the ranking works, either put up or shut up....
not that i'm mean or anything.:)

disposablehero
May 13th, 2003, 05:51 AM
Yes, but this system has a maximum of 17 events. If you are giving someone credit for 3 Grass events, that's equivalant to a 30 event ranking over the year.

earthcrystal
May 13th, 2003, 07:42 AM
This thread is worthless. These so-called "rankings" indicate nada. Others have provided ample explanations as to why, ergo, there's no need for me to type anything else. ;)

niceman
May 13th, 2003, 07:48 AM
This thread is worthless. These so-called "rankings" indicate nada. Others have provided ample explanations as to why, ergo, there's no need for me to type anything else. ;)
speak for yourself..........
there are no "worthless" threads,
it's all about perceptions...........
these are the records of what happen last yr on grass,
so this is how good they are, you'll see how the performance
of these players will come out on grass soon...

jirobkk
May 13th, 2003, 08:18 AM
since all grass tournament commitments are out,
it'll be interesting to review this ranking once again,
the are 3 players outside TOP 15 in WTA ranking
but ranked TOP 16 on grass, they are:
Elena Likhovtseva (RUS) TOP 10 on grass,
defending Wimbledon QF.....
then Lisa Raymond (USA) and Daja Bedanova (CZE)
so keep an eye on them during the grass "season"

the ones in TOP 15 but not on grass
are Lindsay who got injured last yr,
Kim who was off form last yr this time around,
so it'll be interesting to see how the do on grass

Thanks niceman for the ranking info. :worship:
But I think you forgot to add Tamarine Tanasugarn in your top 16. :mad:

Tammy has amazing record on grass as below. ( reaching 5 consecutive round of 16 in Wimby and defeated top players on grass ) :hearts:

Wimby '98
128 W Kveta HRDLICKOVA (CZE) 6-0 7-5
64 W Karen CROSS (GBR) 6-2 7-5
32 W Cara BLACK (ZIM) 6-4 6-0
16 L Martina HINGIS (SUI) 3-6 2-6
Wimby '99
128 W Kveta HRDLICKOVA (CZE) 6-1 6-4
64 W Maureen DRAKE (CAN) 6-4 6-3
32 W Sandrine TESTUD (FRA) 6-2 1-6 6-3 :D
16 L Mirjana LUCIC (CRO) 5-7 3-6
Wimby '00
128 W Rosana NEFFA-DE LOS RIOS (PAR) 7-5 6-2
64 W Natalia ZVEREVA (BLR) 6-1 6-3 :D
32 W Anne-Gaelle SIDOT (FRA) 6-1 4-6 6-4
16 L Serena WILLIAMS (USA) 1-6 1-6
Wimby '01
128 W Cara BLACK (ZIM) 7-5 6-7(2) 6-3
64 W Ludmila CERVANOVA (SVK) 6-2 2-6 6-1
32 W Amelie MAURESMO (FRA) 6-4 6-4 :D
16 L Nathalie TAUZIAT (FRA) 3-6 2-6
Wimby '02
128 W Maria SANCHEZ-LORENZO (ESP) 5-7 6-4 6-4
64 W Jana KANDARR (GER) 6-3 6-4
32 W Meilen TU (USA) 6-2 3-6 6-0
16 L Monica SELES (USA) 2-6 2-6

Birmingham '99
64 W Amelie COCHETEUX (FRA) 6-1 6-1
32 W Lisa RAYMOND (USA) 1-6 7-6 7-5 :D
16 L Magui SERNA (ESP) 2-6 2-6
Birmingham '00
64 W Kristie BOOGERT (NED) 6-3 3-6 6-1
32 W Louise LATIMER (GBR) 7-6(5) 6-3
16 W Lina KRASNOROUTSKAYA (RUS) 7-5 6-2 :D
QF W Julie HALARD-DECUGIS (FRA) 6-4 6-4 :D
SF W Cara BLACK (ZIM) 7-6(0) 6-1
FR L Lisa RAYMOND (USA) 2-6 7-6(7) 4-6
Eastbourne '01
32 W Jennifer HOPKINS (USA) 6-1 6-2
16 W Nathalie TAUZIAT (FRA) 6-7(1) 7-6(6) 6-3 :D
QF L Elena LIKHOVTSEVA (RUS) 3-6 1-6

jirobkk
May 16th, 2003, 06:59 AM
Tammy will be playing both Birmingham and Eastbourne before Wimby. She has to do well on grass to boost up her ranking and she does not have points to defend in Birmingham and Eastbourne.

C'mon Tammy, I know you love playing on grass.

rooftopboi1
May 16th, 2003, 07:12 AM
yeah it's not fair... Lindsay should be in the top 3!!

niceman
May 18th, 2003, 06:53 PM
it's almost time for grass......
cant wait to see how Daja does on that.....:)

niceman
May 24th, 2003, 01:11 AM
grass season is almost gonna start soon,
cant wait to see Daja and Lisa getting
into their gears on grass...

u know, they can actually do some real
bad damages on grass.........:)

hopefully these fastcourts will let
Daja have a chance to recover from
her real bad form right now....
GO DAJA...:)