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tennisIlove09
May 7th, 2003, 08:07 AM
Tennis star Hantuchova loses weight and form
Even competitors worry about Slovakian

Translated by LOGO MEDIA SOFTWARE
Originally written in German by J?rg Allmeroth

Source in German : Die Weit
07 May 2003

Berlin - Her optical attractions first fell into the eye: infinitely long legs, full lips and high cheekbones. "She sees from as well as Anna Kournikowa", the "Daily Mail" Wimbledon raved over the Slovak Daniela Hantuchova, "with the big difference, in 2002: She can play tennis." Within few months mixed the 20-year old one, that had been trained in the tennis camp of Nick Bollettieri in Bradenton once, the world chart from below on. Momentarily, Hantuchova ranks on place nine.

End of April first almost had defeated the talented Slovak the German Fedcup-Team in the solo run; no miracle therefore, that she is traded with the German Open in Berlin as one of the favorites.

At her appearance against the Austrian Barbara Schett, that she won with difficulty yesterday with 6:3, 4:6, 6:3, however changed fans and experts gazes procured: "She hardly still has physical substance", a friendly Slovak complained. Daniela Hantuchova comes no more like a switch-slim models but slimmed and therefore occurred. Hantuchova, 186 centimeters long, brings "not once more 50 kilograms" on the scales, team colleague Ludmila Cervanova worried that "in Indian Wells, she even still was five kilograms more easily. Speculations about the dramatic weight loss already become, in the official press leader of the WTA-Tour, Hantuchova boasts her weight about 56 kilograms, in the tennis circus ever wilder. From physical or psychologically conditional Bulimie is the speech: Hantuchova admittedly eats several meals daily, among them pound-wise chocolate, however she/it could not hold the food with herself. "I am fit and healthy", Hantuchova said however defiant and white that nobody believes her.

For more than two months, the performances of the Shootingstars of the last season got markedly worse - almost parallel to her rapid weight loss. In Indian Wells, where she/it had celebrated the first spectacular tournament victory in 2002, she lost surprisingly in round four against the South African jogger Amanda Coetzer, one week later, the early end came Alicia Molik in Miami against the Australian outsider. Even more bitterly, the appearance got in Charleston, where the American Wildcard-Starterin Ashley Harkleroad in 101. the WTA-Rangliste, Hantuchova in the quarterfinal abservierte.

In the Baden Ettenheim, on the small stage of the Fed-Cup-Vergleichs against Germany, Hantuchova avoided further missteps Marlene Weing?rtner and Anca Barna only thanks to the carelessness of the German competitors. One didn't use the favor of the hour against Hantuchova, the German Fed-Cup-Teamchef annoyed Klaus Eberhard for itself, finally the Top-Ten-players distant far from "her normal form.

Tennis legend Martina Navratilova, that as an official mentor of the WTA-Tour will supply Hantuchova to the side, suspects, that she/it didn't increase the racket by her/its/their person: "The young players are pushed madly fast into the footlights today, there one must be very much careful that she/it themselves and comes to terms with this the personal surroundings and processes halfway normally." Hantuchova and Navratilova should have to discuss some at the edge of the German Open.

irma
May 7th, 2003, 08:15 AM
"however she/it could not hold the food with herself."

if this means what I think that it means then there is no denying anymore and I wish she gets help soon!

moby
May 7th, 2003, 08:21 AM
what does could not "hold the food with herself" mean?

is she puking it out :eek:
or is it just that she's not having proper digestion

Mercury Rising
May 7th, 2003, 08:26 AM
I'm guessing boulemia, and i agree with Irma :eek:

Beat
May 7th, 2003, 09:12 AM
i'm sorry, but don't read too much into those sentences, because this was translated by an online engine, so it might have also said something else. can you post the original german text?

irma
May 7th, 2003, 09:14 AM
Tennisstar Hantuchova verliert an Gewicht und Form
Selbst Konkurrentinnen sorgen sich um Slowakin
von Jörg Allmeroth

Berlin - Zuerst fielen ihre optischen Reize ins Auge: unendlich lange Beine, volle Lippen und hohe Wangenknochen. "Sie sieht so gut aus wie Anna Kurnikowa", schwärmte die "Daily Mail" Wimbledon 2002 über die Slowakin Daniela Hantuchova, "mit dem großen Unterschied: Sie kann Tennis spielen."


Innerhalb weniger Monate mischte die 20-Jährige, die einst im Tenniscamp von Nick Bollettieri in Bradenton ausgebildet worden war, von unten die Weltrangliste auf. Momentan rangiert Hantuchova auf Platz neun.


Ende April erst hatte die talentierte Slowakin das deutsche Fedcup-Team fast im Alleingang besiegt; kein Wunder also, dass sie bei den German Open in Berlin als eine der Favoritinnen gehandelt wird.


Bei ihrem Auftritt gegen die Österreicherin Barbara Schett jedoch, den sie gestern mühsam mit 6:3, 4:6, 6:3 gewann, wechselten Fans und Experten besorgte Blicke: "Sie hat kaum noch körperliche Substanz", klagte eine befreundete Slowakin. Daniela Hantuchova kommt nicht mehr wie ein gertenschlankes Model, sondern abgemagert und eingefallen daher. "Nicht mal mehr 50 Kilogramm" bringe Hantuchova, 186 Zentimeter lang, auf die Waage, sorgte sich Teamkollegin Ludmila Cervanowa, "in Indian Wells war sie sogar noch fünf Kilogramm leichter". Schon werden Spekulationen über den dramatischen Gewichtsverlust - im offiziellen Presseführer der WTA-Tour gibt Hantuchova ihr Gewicht mit 56 Kilogramm an - im Tenniszirkus immer wilder. Von körperlich oder psychologisch bedingter Bulimie ist die Rede: Hantuchova esse zwar mehrere Mahlzeiten täglich, darunter pfundweise Schokolade, doch sie könne die Nahrung nicht bei sich halten. "Ich bin fit und gesund", sagte Hantuchova jedoch trotzig und weiß, dass niemand ihr glaubt.


Seit mehr als zwei Monaten haben sich die Leistungen des Shootingstars der vergangenen Saison merklich verschlechtert - fast parallel zu ihrem rasanten Gewichtsverlust. In Indian Wells, wo sie 2002 den ersten spektakulären Turniersieg gefeiert hatte, verlor sie überraschend in Runde vier gegen die südafrikanische Dauerläuferin Amanda Coetzer, eine Woche später kam in Miami das frühe Aus gegen die australische Außenseiterin Alicia Molik. Noch bitterer geriet der Auftritt in Charleston, wo die amerikanische Wildcard-Starterin Ashley Harkleroad (101. der WTA-Rangliste) Hantuchova im Viertelfinale abservierte.


Im badischen Ettenheim, auf der kleinen Bühne des Fed-Cup-Vergleichs gegen Deutschland, vermied Hantuchova weitere Fehltritte nur dank der Nachlässigkeit der deutschen Konkurrentinnen Marlene Weingärtner und Anca Barna. Man habe die Gunst der Stunde gegen Hantuchova nicht genutzt, ärgerte sich der deutsche Fed-Cup-Teamchef Klaus Eberhard, schließlich sei die Top-Ten-Spielerin weit von "ihrer normalen Form entfernt".


Tennislegende Martina Navratilova, die Hantuchova als offizielle Mentorin der WTA-Tour zur Seite gestellt ist, vermutet, dass sie dem Rummel um ihre Person nicht gewachsen ist: "Die jungen Spielerinnen werden heute wahnsinnig schnell ins Rampenlicht gedrängt, da muss man sehr aufpassen, dass sie selbst und das persönliche Umfeld das verkraften und halbwegs normal verarbeiten." Hantuchova und Navratilova dürften am Rande der German Open einiges zu bereden haben.

Glenn
May 7th, 2003, 10:24 AM
doch sie könne die Nahrung nicht bei sich halten

It means that she can't keep the food inside of her.

ptkten
May 7th, 2003, 11:27 AM
It probably means that no matter how much she eats, it doesn't seem to make her gain weight.

leslie
May 7th, 2003, 11:44 AM
I keep telling you guys that that girl is anorex (sp). Something is definitly wrong with Dani why can't her parents and coach see that are these people blind and why are they sending her out there on the tennis court. She will colapse one day right in front out our eyes. The girl needs help badly and fast.

Hagar
May 7th, 2003, 11:44 AM
Irma, volgens mij is het: "Ik wou dat ik 2 hondjes was, dan konden WE samen spelen."
Zeer goeie quote trouwens.

leslie
May 7th, 2003, 11:45 AM
i'm sorry, but don't read too much into those sentences, because this was translated by an online engine, so it might have also said something else. can you post the original german text?

Don't read to much into what...you don't have to read anything just look at her.

GoDominique
May 7th, 2003, 11:51 AM
The article says there are wild rumours about bulimia.

She is said to weight less than 50 kg, a "dramatic loss of weight". She looks "haggard and cavernous".

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 11:57 AM
I keep telling you guys that that girl is anorex (sp). Something is definitly wrong with Dani why can't her parents and coach see that are these people blind and why are they sending her out there on the tennis court. She will colapse one day right in front out our eyes. The girl needs help badly and fast.

Apparently Chris Bradnam, British Eurosport commentator and very close friend of Nigel Sears (Daniela's coach), said on air yesterday that the 'problem' is being sorted and that fans should not worry. He didn't say what the 'problem' was but it's almost certain that he was repeating what Nigel had asked him to say. :)

I think I agree with ptkten's translation:
"It probably means that no matter how much she eats, it doesn't seem to make her gain weight."

It's not a massive weight loss, Daniela is naturally thin, she said that she has grown even taller since last year and the effect of that on a naturally thin athlete (maybe with a high metabolism) can be a problem with muscle development etc.

Plus Daniela played more tennis in 2002 than any other player (fact) - that is bound to have an effect on a young player who had almost no time off during the 'break' between 2002 and 2003.

irma
May 7th, 2003, 12:04 PM
Hagar
het is een gedichtje van Godfried Bomans en die heeft het zo opgeschreven.

GoDominique
May 7th, 2003, 12:06 PM
I think I agree with ptkten's translation:
"It probably means that no matter how much she eats, it doesn't seem to make her gain weight."

That's not a translation, because that's not what the article says.

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 12:10 PM
The article says there are wild rumours about bulimia.

She is said to weight less than 50 kg, a "dramatic loss of weight". She looks "haggard and cavernous".

And yet people who watched her in yesterday's match say she looks fine - thin but fine :)

People maybe should be careful not to indulge in a kind of 'chinese whispers' exercise, reading messages here about Daniela being 'ill' and 'anorexic' (with no evidence) then those unsubstantiated rumours are repeated by others as though they were fact.

The facts are that Daniela is playing her tennis almost as well as last year and is still in the Top 10 and surely there's no way she could be doing that if the 'problem' she has is anywhere near as serious as the gossipers :D have been saying! :)

Tennis isn't the same game as the days of Tracey Austin is it, it's a lot faster and far more powerful and surely any serious health problem in a player would nowadays be evident pretty quickly. The player simply would not be able to play matches day in day out, let alone win any. Daniela played three matches in one day at Charleston and won two of them. :)

Glenn
May 7th, 2003, 12:11 PM
I think I agree with ptkten's translation:
"It probably means that no matter how much she eats, it doesn't seem to make her gain weight."

You can't just choose what it means.
The real translation and meaning is that she can't keep the food inside of her, don't try to give it a twist just because your a fan.

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 12:13 PM
That's not a translation, because that's not what the article says.

Ok, so if the article says:

'She is said to weight less than 50 kg, a "dramatic loss of weight". She looks "haggard and cavernous".'

Who is saying this? a doctor? a fitness trainer? a WTA official? or is it a quote from someone on a message board?

:)

Glenn
May 7th, 2003, 12:16 PM
Ok, so if the article says:

'She is said to weight less than 50 kg, a "dramatic loss of weight". She looks "haggard and cavernous".'

Who is saying this? a doctor? a fitness trainer? a WTA official? or is it a quote from someone on a message board?

:)

A reporter probably.
You don't have to be a doctor to see that Hantuchova is losing weight and looking skinnier and more unhealthy every week.
Besides, her coach says that they're working on her problem, so if even he knows that something is going on, why won't you?

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 12:18 PM
You can't just choose what it means.
The real translation and meaning is that she can't keep the food inside of her, don't try to give it a twist just because your a fan.

But if it doesn't gives a reference to anyone with any credibility saying this, it's meaningless. :)

I can easily imagine the British press coming up with 'scoops' like this come Wimbledon time, without sources it's just tittle tattle.

moby
May 7th, 2003, 12:20 PM
one thing i'm sure

i'm never using LOGO MEDIA SOFTWARE

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 12:25 PM
A reporter probably.
You don't have to be a doctor to see that Hantuchova is losing weight and looking skinnier and more unhealthy every week.
Besides, her coach says that they're working on her problem, so if even he knows that something is going on, why won't you?

I do - now that Chris Bradnam passed on what we think Nigel asked him to - that's evidence. :)

She is not 'losing weight and looking skinnier and more unhealthy every week' - people who start threads on here saying that choose to post the most unflattering photos of her and do not post the rest.

Those who saw Daniela yesterday says she looks thin - not ill. :)

If I had time now I would post the far greater number of photos in which Daniela looks just fine - but thin - but I don't, so you will just have to imagine that beauty Glenn. :p

CJ07
May 7th, 2003, 12:32 PM
well she needs to gain atleast 20 pounds
shes too damn thin

Isnt She A Wee Bit Shorter Than Venus?
V weighs around 160 pounds

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 12:35 PM
But if it doesn't gives a reference to anyone with any credibility saying this, it's meaningless. :)

I can easily imagine the British press coming up with 'scoops' like this come Wimbledon time, without sources it's just tittle tattle.

Maybe we should start some rumours about Capriati, or the Williams being obese, about how they only eat salads and pasta but not matter how carefully they eat, they still continue to pile the pounds on, and that if their obesity continues, they should get medical help quickly before they collapse with a heart attack on court.

I am sick and tired of all this malicious gossip and rumour mongering. No-one has said anything about bulemia, anorexia or any other kind of illness. All that was said yesterday was that they had identified a weight problem, that there is nothing to worry about and that it is being addressed. They did not say what the cause of the problem was, for all we know it could be a metabolic issue, but anything at the moment would be a guess without any official response from the camp. Until then, leave her alone and stop all of this malicious gossip please until we all know the truth.

leslie
May 7th, 2003, 01:23 PM
Maybe we should start some rumours about Capriati, or the Williams being obese, about how they only eat salads and pasta but not matter how carefully they eat, they still continue to pile the pounds on, and that if their obesity continues, they should get medical help quickly before they collapse with a heart attack on court.

I am sick and tired of all this malicious gossip and rumour mongering. No-one has said anything about bulemia, anorexia or any other kind of illness. All that was said yesterday was that they had identified a weight problem, that there is nothing to worry about and that it is being addressed. They did not say what the cause of the problem was, for all we know it could be a metabolic issue, but anything at the moment would be a guess without any official response from the camp. Until then, leave her alone and stop all of this malicious gossip please until we all know the truth.

Man, are you blind? Can't you see that there is something seriously wrong with Dani. No one is spreading rumors you can look at dani I see she is not healthy and she needs serious help. Like they are going to come right out and tell us she is bulemic or anorex. Do you remember Karen Carpenter the singer, when they announced her illness it was already to late. I hope they are working on her problem and she really should not be exerting her energy playing tennis right now. And, I hope I am 100% wrong about her eating disorder.

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 01:28 PM
Wednesday May 7, 6:53 PM
Friendly warning for lightweight Hantuchova
Daniela Hantuchova, the world number nine from Slovakia, has been told to gain weight before next month's Wimbledon amidst gossip that she is at risk of becoming anorexic.

The 20-year-old has always been one of the most sparely built women on the tour but is now significantly below her fighting weight of 123 pounds (55.3 kilos), which has caused speculation that she has a problem.

The situation also bothers her coach, Nigel Sears, who has helped her become one of the world's most high profile players over the past two years.

"I am concerned that she is underweight," Sears admitted. "I would feel happier when that situation changes, and we have addressed it and we are working on it.

"Players have an appropriate performance weight and it is not good to be over or under that, and at the moment she is under that," added the Briton, clearly keen to rebut any suggestion that Hantuchova might be unwell.

"She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "She is fit and strong, but she is burning off more calories than she is taking in. This is a sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to confront it."

Sears admitted that he and Hantuchova had taken "professional advice," over the matter, though he gave the impression that this was dietary and not psychological advice.

"It is a matter of balance between calories taken in and calories going out," he said. "It's sensitive but she's a serious girl and is responding well to it," he concluded.

"I am hoping she will get back to the right weight, and I would like to feel that by Eastbourne (June) and Wimbledon (June and July) there will be a difference."

Hantuchova won a tier one title for the first time in Indian Wells a year ago and climbed into the world's top ten for the first time last October. She has consolidated her place among the elite but has not pushed further upwards as quickly as some people expected.

Nevertheless, Hantuchova certainly hit the ball solidly enough and battled energetically to win her opening match in the German Open 6-3, 4-6, 6-3 against Barbara Schett, a former top ten player from Austria.

She now has a day off during which to prepare for her third round match against an as yet unknown opponent.

HantuchovaSweFan
May 7th, 2003, 01:53 PM
Is she 186 centimeters?

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 02:37 PM
"She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "She is fit and strong, but she is burning off more calories than she is taking in. This is a sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to confront it."


So there you have it folks. Straight from the horses mouth, or even the coaches mouth. So now who are you going to believe, some backstreet journalist desparate for a scoop, some gossiping tennis fans on a messageboard or the players coach?

END OF SUBJECT

lee station
May 7th, 2003, 02:42 PM
The theme is tired and old. Expect it to pop up again when Daniela wins a match.

Leena
May 7th, 2003, 02:46 PM
So there you have it folks. Straight from the horses mouth, or even the coaches mouth. So now who are you going to believe, some backstreet journalist desparate for a scoop, some gossiping tennis fans on a messageboard or the players coach?

END OF SUBJECT
This is what Dani said:

"Hantuchova admittedly eats several meals daily, among them pound-wise chocolate, however she/it could not hold the food with herself."

That's the definition of bulimia. She's obviously not anorexic as many people have noted that she eats normally.

The fact that Sears said "This is a sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to confront it." means that there must be a problem.

Bulimia, or whatever, this is a very serious problem that I hope Dani takes care of. :sad:

MarcusRock
May 7th, 2003, 03:40 PM
In the Baden Ettenheim, on the small stage of the Fed-Cup-Vergleichs against Germany, Hantuchova avoided further missteps Marlene Weing?rtner and Anca Barna only thanks to the carelessness of the German competitors.Sounds like someone has been spending too much time with .....
http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/marcusrock/Excuses.gif

MarcusRock
May 7th, 2003, 03:45 PM
Seriously though, if Hantuchova does have some sort of eating disorder, do you expect her to come out and hold a press conference to be upfront about everything? Celebrities and sports stars lie about tons of stuff and something like his is definitely lieworthy so what she or some coach says to the press don't mean squat to me. Only she and maybe a few insiders know the real story. If there really is a problem, I hope she gets it taken care of.

Leena
May 7th, 2003, 04:03 PM
Sounds like someone has been spending too much time with .....
http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/marcusrock/Excuses.gif
Best. Avatar. Ever.

Andy_
May 7th, 2003, 04:13 PM
To all Daniela's fans out there,
I don't think that anyone here has anything against her. Honestly, some other players on the tour have their "anti-fans", but this is not the case with Hantuchova. If this thread has come out and has received so much attention, it is because we are somewhat worried for Daniela. And hopefully, as many of you say, we are just imagining, inferring things that are completely untrue. On the other hand we have seen her lose weight since last summer. At first it was like "oh, look, she's lost a few pounds, but she's always been thin, that's ok". And then came a few appearances on the fashion scene, and you could say that she was in the right form for that world!
Now, when I saw her yesterday I was really impressed, especially by how thin her legs are. Without a doubt, though, she's still playing at a high level, and you can't think that her doctor would let her do that, if her conditions were that bad. Anyway, since her loss of weight began, the quality of her game has dropped too, and probably some more calories would do good to her health and her game at the same time :)

irma
May 7th, 2003, 04:21 PM
well let's just hope she finds a solution whatever the problem is. it must be bad when you have a problem and everybody is talking and writing about it and speculating about it (and yeah I am guilty too of course but still)

Cariaoke
May 7th, 2003, 04:28 PM
It would help if people spelled the terms correctly: bulimia and anorexia.

Anorexia- a person is convinced that they are fat and they partake in strenuous exercise to lose the imaginary weight. They even stop eating correctly. Eventually, they become emaciated and die if it isn't corrected.

Bulimia- a person sometimes eats normally but most of the time they binge eat. binge eating is when a person eats an excessive amount of food in one sitting. we're talking buffet style. they gorge themselves until they feel guilty and take a trip to the bathroom so their bodies won't digest it and they won't gain weight from all the overeating.

All Dani's parents need to do is to take her to a dentist to find out if she's bulimic, without assuming it from her physical appearance. When people repeatedly vomit, the stomach acid rots the teeth in a particular pattern.

My personal feeling is that she's exerting herself too much and not eating properly. I hope it isn't an eating disorder because it is a tough thing to go through. She needs to do something to fatten up because I see her breaking a bone very soon. She looks frail.

Seles_Beckham
May 7th, 2003, 05:01 PM
http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/xp/afp_photo/20030506/sge.gtq84.060503164607.photo00.default-384x270.jpg

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 05:09 PM
My personal feeling is that she's exerting herself too much and not eating properly. I hope it isn't an eating disorder because it is a tough thing to go through. She needs to do something to fatten up because I see her breaking a bone very soon. She looks frail.

With all due respect (to you and freedom of speech) I think we've had enough of 'personal feelings' on this subject now. Let's stop all this speculation and leave any diagnoses that need to be done with the experts. I'm sure that whatever the problem is, it will be dealt with in the correct and proper manner by those close to Daniela. All this speculation and gossip is mindless and pointless. It certainly isn't going to solve the problem, more likely to aggrevate it. I really don't think anyone is going to listen to the diagnoses and recommended cures from anyone on this board, so why bother unless you get some sort of cheap thrill out of discussing someone elses problem.

Let's talk about Daniela on court and let those who really matter deal with her off court.

lee station
May 7th, 2003, 05:19 PM
:bounce: :bounce:

Cariaoke
May 7th, 2003, 05:24 PM
If you don't like it, don't read this thread. And congratulations for contradicting yourself by putting down what I said after putting in the tag 'with all due respect to your freedom of speech'.

Like as a fan of Daniela, you have the right to say whatever you'd like since you have some sort of god status when compared to the non/casual fans. I've never seen someone so blinded by fandom and then vehemently refusing to accept that his fave has a problem. It's only natural for people to speculate when we see the signs of something far greater than a 'high metabolism'. I don't expect Daniela to hold a press conference and confirm what most of us know and accept. She doesn't owe the public anything but she owes herself good health.

Cheap thrill? Ha ha, good one. A few people express their concern over a talented player and you think it's a cheap thrill. I could have just said 'the skinny bitch needs to eat' but instead I put that in a much nicer way since I don't hate the girl. How can it aggravate the problem? Does Daniela or her 'handlers' read this board? I'm sure they don't so where's the problem?

Both of you are in denial and that's really sad. And I'll keep saying whatever the hell I want on this board when I feel the need to until an admin kicks my ass, rightly. *purr* :D :wavey:

Rocketta
May 7th, 2003, 06:12 PM
That quote by the coach sounds scarily like an Anarexic problem not eating enough for fear of gaining weight? How on God's green earth would Daniela ever fear being overweight when she is severly underweight? That to me denotes a problem. I saw her in Charleston and I told someone before that she practiced all day long. A lady that I was friendly with told me that she watched a practice and that Daniela would get tired and have to sit down numerous times. That she kept putting her head in her hands and the coach would go over to check on her. She could've just been sick that day but she still practiced later that day. Here's a pic of dani at Charleston (sorry not the best pic, I probably have better but haven't found them yet)

http://home.ec.rr.com/rocketta/Hantuchova-1.jpg

SerenaSlam
May 7th, 2003, 06:34 PM
so i guess we can say the the official new exucse is, she has a HIGH METABOLISM? and no matter what she eats, she cannot gain weight? but in fact she can loose a considerable amount in a couple months?

Now me, I have a very high metabolism as well, but at the same time, i cannot loose the weight, nor gain the weight. The only time i've gained weight is by getting taller. Believe it or not, getting taller did not make me loose weight, i gained. Im not a 90 pound stick, nor am i big, im 5'11" 1/2 and only weigh 155 lbs. Dani is a couple inches taller than me, and she weighs like 110 pounds.

"not holding the food in" is not the problem. well hell it is, but it can be fixed if she would avoid using that left or fight index finger after she gets done eating everyday :)

SerenaSlam
May 7th, 2003, 06:37 PM
damn, the fucking picutre looks like she is hurting every time she moves a damn muscle, walks, talks, hell when she just moves her eyes she has to be huritng.

dani something is up and wrong w/ you. and the first step to these problems has always been, and always will be ADMITTING YOU HAVE THE MUTHAFUCKIN PROBLEM, till then, we may have to weight till her weight is DEATHLY down, for right now, she is avoding any question she is anorexic or bulemic....and i believe i saw a picture of her mother, she didn't look like she had any eating problems, so maybe its on her dad's side :rolleyes:

lee station
May 7th, 2003, 06:44 PM
:rolleyes:
:wavey: Bye bye

Kart
May 7th, 2003, 06:48 PM
Being thin does not equal an eating disorder :rolleyes:.

Of course, everyone in the media and loads of people even on this board go on about players being fat and needing to lose weight ... is it really any surprise if she does have one ?

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 08:26 PM
That quote by the coach sounds scarily like an Anarexic problem not eating enough for fear of gaining weight?

Her coach just said in print she is not anorexic!

"She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "She is fit and strong, but
she is burning off more calories than she is taking in. This is a
sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to
wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to
confront it."

She is fit and strong, Nigel says. That's good enough for me. :) There are no hidden meanings in Nigel's words to indicate that Daniela's 'problem' is anything as serious as has been suggested. I think he is being completely honest and open here.

If the problem was more serious than Nigel suggests there is no way Daniela could still be playing sport at the highest level is there. The fact that she is still playing (almost) at her best is the best possible evidence that Nigel is being 100% honest here. :)

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 08:41 PM
Her coach just said in print she is not anorexic!

[B]"She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "

Craig, I think we're wasting our time trying to be reasonable with these cretins. I've tried, you've tried, to explain in a reasonable manner without getting delirious over the situation, yet no-one listens. I think the best thing to do now is to ignore them and leave them in their own sad, sorry and moronic little world. Let them believe what they want to believe. All that matters is the truth and these gossipers are really so insignificant that they do not matter.

the cat
May 7th, 2003, 08:50 PM
All of this hysteria around Dani's slender physique is getting out of control! :mad:

I would like to see her about 10 pounds heavier. But it's not easy for slim people who have a fast metabolism to add weight. Who is skinnier than Gustavo Kuerten? No one in men's tennis. He has won 3 grand slam titles. And the equally skinny Petr Korda even won a grand slam title. Dani can, too. She has excellent technique and alot of talent. She just needs to be primed for the major tournaments. Dani doesn't need to play as many tournaments as she does. The over crowded schedule of hers is what is wearing her down. Dani needs to play a Jennifer Capriati type of schedule. Which consists of about 16 tournaments a year. And we all know that Capritai has the strongest body in the history of women's tennis. While Dani has one of the weakest bodies. It's time for Dani to play fewer events and concentrate of the majors and Tier 1's. She is being over played early in her career. Her coach can talk all he wants about getting her to eat more. But the first step is to play a schedule that is conducive to Dani's slender build. And that would be aabout 16 tournaments a year.

A couple of years ago Maria Sharapova was even skinnier than Daniela was at that time. But Maria has easily out grown Daniala by probably atleast 10 pounds. And they are about the same height. If Maria can grow and add significant weight to her frame why can't Daniela? I don't believe she has an eating disorder.

Leslie, I know you mean well. But comparing Dani to Karen Carpenter is not fair. Karen Carpenter wasn't young and a world class athlete like Daniela Hantuchova is. Karen had been ill for a very long time before she tragically passed away in early 1983. My God! It's been over 20 years already! Dani is not ill. She is a world class athlete who just happens to be very slender. If she played fewer tournaments, she might have an easier time adding some much needed weight to her fragile frame.

Good luck to Dani! :D The poor girl is under so much scrutiny from the media and the tennis fans. :( I hope she can handle it.

beauty_is_pink
May 7th, 2003, 08:51 PM
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

its nice that you guys care a bit about Daniela's health and theres nothing wrong with that.. yes, i admit, as a Daniela Fan, she HAS gotten skinnier, but with that she has become strong and fit. she probably burn out all that baby fat she had [if you compared the pics, previously and the pics now] . but there is a line that you shouldnt cross saying that she's freakin 'sick'. shes not. dont start rumours when you dont have the facts to back it up. i believe that she is NOT anorexic or any of the other 'illnesses' you guys are saying about her... but i do believe that there IS something wrong with her tennis.

thats all. you guys can continue babbling on... blah blah blah :wavey:

Lates

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 08:58 PM
She just needs to be primed for the major tournaments. Dani doesn't need to play as many tournaments as she does. The over crowded schedule of hers is what is wearing her down.
Good luck to Dani! :D The poor girl is under so much scrutiny from the media and the tennis fans. :( I hope she can handle it.

Thank you, someone actually talking some common sense at last. This is what those of us who follow Daniela's career very closely have been saying for some time now. She played more tournaments than anyone last year and seems to be going for the world record for cramming in as many tournaments this year too. She just needs to take a break to get back to her prime, skip some of the lesser tournaments and concentrate on those that matter.

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 08:58 PM
All of this hysteria around Dani's slender physique is getting out of control! :mad:

I would like to see her about 10 pounds heavier. But it's not easy for slim people who have a fast metabolism to add weight. Who is skinnier than Gustavo Kuerten? No one in men's tennis. He has won 3 grand slam titles. And the equally skinny Petr Korda even won a grand slam title. Dani can, too. She has excellent technique and alot of talent. She just needs to be primed for the major tournaments. Dani doesn't need to play as many tournaments as she does. The over crowded schedule of hers is what is wearing her down. Dani needs to play a Jennifer Capriati type of schedule. Which consists of about 16 tournaments a year. And we all know that Capritai has the strongest body in the history of women's tennis. While Dani has one of the weakest bodies. It's time for Dani to play fewer events and concentrate of the majors and Tier 1's. She is being over played early in her career. Her coach can talk all he wants about getting her to eat more. But the first step is to play a schedule that is conducive to Dani's slender build. And that would be aabout 16 tournaments a year.

A couple of years ago Maria Sharapova was even skinnier than Daniela was at that time. But Maria has easily out grown Daniala by probably atleast 10 pounds. And they are about the same height. If Maria can grow and add significant weight to her frame why can't Daniela? I don't believe she has an eating disorder.

Leslie, I know you mean well. But comparing Dani to Karen Carpenter is not fair. Karen Carpenter wasn't young and a world class athlete like Daniela Hantuchova is. Karen had been ill for a very long time before she tragically passed away in early 1983. My God! It's been over 20 years already! Dani is not ill. She is a world class athlete who just happens to be very slender. If she played fewer tournaments, she might have an easier time adding some much needed weight to her fragile frame.

Good luck to Dani! :D The poor girl is under so much scrutiny from the media and the tennis fans. :( I hope she can handle it.


Hear, hear, well said :) Daniela did play more tennis in 2002 than anyone, then went straight from that into training in South Africa for the new season, no wonder her body is maybe rebelling. In 2002 Myskina played 85 matches, Clijsters 93, Henin 97 and Daniela -- 156! :eek: Even Dokic only played 122.

So I'd disagree when you say her body is one of the weakest, surely it must be one of the strongest :) Daniela is surely one of the fittest on the Tour, she has never missed matches through injury, singles or doubles, and yesterday was the first time she has ever had to call the trainer on court.

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 09:02 PM
Craig, I think we're wasting our time trying to be reasonable with these cretins. I've tried, you've tried, to explain in a reasonable manner without getting delirious over the situation, yet no-one listens. I think the best thing to do now is to ignore them and leave them in their own sad, sorry and moronic little world. Let them believe what they want to believe. All that matters is the truth and these gossipers are really so insignificant that they do not matter.

Steady Graham mate, temper temper :D :p

GrahamD
May 7th, 2003, 09:08 PM
Steady Graham mate, temper temper :D :p

I'm not angry. I'm just frustrated by the stupidity of some of the posts in this thread. :rolleyes:

CJ07
May 7th, 2003, 09:15 PM
regardless of what her problem may be

she still could benifit from a good ol big mac

and LOTS of them

MarcusRock
May 7th, 2003, 09:17 PM
Angry posters = entertainment :D

Rocketta
May 7th, 2003, 09:28 PM
Her coach just said in print she is not anorexic!

"She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "She is fit and strong, but
she is burning off more calories than she is taking in. This is a
sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to
wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to
confront it."

She is fit and strong, Nigel says. That's good enough for me. :) There are no hidden meanings in Nigel's words to indicate that Daniela's 'problem' is anything as serious as has been suggested. I think he is being completely honest and open here.

If the problem was more serious than Nigel suggests there is no way Daniela could still be playing sport at the highest level is there. The fact that she is still playing (almost) at her best is the best possible evidence that Nigel is being 100% honest here. :)

Sweetie the fact that he went out of his way to Name something she's not makes it suspicious to me. Also, when he goes on to say you have to becareful because young girls are into to fashion that they are scared of being a couple of pounds overweight, who do you think he's referring to? Daniela. Daniela is the one that is scared of putting on pounds and being overweight, Nigel blames it on fashion but who knows. I say again Daniela is underweight. Why would her coach need to discuss fears of her being overweight? Why is that even on Daniela's radar? The girl has a long way to go to be "normal" weight more less "overweight". That is what smacks of an Anarexic problem or the beginning of an anorexic problem to me.

I hope for her and her fans sake she is not but this Daniela is natural thin is kind of weak because as women get older we fill out more not less. see the Sharparova example.

apoet29
May 7th, 2003, 09:53 PM
Honestly, people need to stop focusing so much on Daniela's weight. Whatever problems she may be having, the constant attention will only make her more self-conscious of her physique. I disagree with her coach drawing additional attention to the problem, but he may be trying to defend her the only way he knows how.

dhnet2
May 7th, 2003, 09:55 PM
Sweetie the fact that he went out of his way to Name something she's not makes it suspicious to me. Also, when he goes on to say you have to becareful because young girls are into to fashion that they are scared of being a couple of pounds overweight, who do you think he's referring to? Daniela. Daniela is the one that is scared of putting on pounds and being overweight, Nigel blames it on fashion but who knows. I say again Daniela is underweight. Why would her coach need to discuss fears of her being overweight? Why is that even on Daniela's radar? The girl has a long way to go to be "normal" weight more less "overweight". That is what smacks of an Anarexic problem or the beginning of an anorexic problem to me.

I hope for her and her fans sake she is not but this Daniela is natural thin is kind of weak because as women get older we fill out more not less. see the Sharparova example.

But how about if they are still growing? At Indian Wells Daniela said she was, or had grown since last year. How does this affect an athlete.

No one is saying Daniela doesn't have some sort of problem, we're just saying it can't be that serious or she couldn't still be playing top tennis, and after what Nigel said today - it isn't that serious, he just said so. :)

I'm sure Nigel mentioned the anorexic word simply because it's been suggested so many times, I'm sure many people he meets must have asked him, friends, other players, reporters, officials, fan mail. So often maybe he wants to dispel the rumour once and for all.

leslie
May 7th, 2003, 10:16 PM
All of this hysteria around Dani's slender physique is getting out of control! :mad:

I would like to see her about 10 pounds heavier. But it's not easy for slim people who have a fast metabolism to add weight. Who is skinnier than Gustavo Kuerten? No one in men's tennis. He has won 3 grand slam titles. And the equally skinny Petr Korda even won a grand slam title. Dani can, too. She has excellent technique and alot of talent. She just needs to be primed for the major tournaments. Dani doesn't need to play as many tournaments as she does. The over crowded schedule of hers is what is wearing her down. Dani needs to play a Jennifer Capriati type of schedule. Which consists of about 16 tournaments a year. And we all know that Capritai has the strongest body in the history of women's tennis. While Dani has one of the weakest bodies. It's time for Dani to play fewer events and concentrate of the majors and Tier 1's. She is being over played early in her career. Her coach can talk all he wants about getting her to eat more. But the first step is to play a schedule that is conducive to Dani's slender build. And that would be aabout 16 tournaments a year.

A couple of years ago Maria Sharapova was even skinnier than Daniela was at that time. But Maria has easily out grown Daniala by probably atleast 10 pounds. And they are about the same height. If Maria can grow and add significant weight to her frame why can't Daniela? I don't believe she has an eating disorder.

Leslie, I know you mean well. But comparing Dani to Karen Carpenter is not fair. Karen Carpenter wasn't young and a world class athlete like Daniela Hantuchova is. Karen had been ill for a very long time before she tragically passed away in early 1983. My God! It's been over 20 years already! Dani is not ill. She is a world class athlete who just happens to be very slender. If she played fewer tournaments, she might have an easier time adding some much needed weight to her fragile frame.

Good luck to Dani! :D The poor girl is under so much scrutiny from the media and the tennis fans. :( I hope she can handle it.

Cat, I understand what you are saying but there's something clearly not right with the way Dani looks. Her coach is not going to come out and say she is anorexic. If she does not take care of herself she will continue to go out in the first or second round of every tournment. The media and the WTA put a lot of pressure on these players and it the players do not have a strong mind and not let the WTA take advantage of them then these of things will happen. Dani also mentioned that she is under pressure; because she won IW a couple of years ago they are expecting more from her and she has not be able to produce. It is a damn shame how some of these good young players are being exploited by the WTA that is why you also need to have strong parents who will stand up for you.

Rocketta
May 7th, 2003, 11:16 PM
But how about if they are still growing? At Indian Wells Daniela said she was, or had grown since last year. How does this affect an athlete.

No one is saying Daniela doesn't have some sort of problem, we're just saying it can't be that serious or she couldn't still be playing top tennis, and after what Nigel said today - it isn't that serious, he just said so. :)

I'm sure Nigel mentioned the anorexic word simply because it's been suggested so many times, I'm sure many people he meets must have asked him, friends, other players, reporters, officials, fan mail. So often maybe he wants to dispel the rumour once and for all.

I hope your right! :)

smarties
May 7th, 2003, 11:23 PM
I won't give you my personnal feeling on Dani's weight loss because everyone here is doing that; but I'm a nutritionnist, so I'll give you my professionnal diagnosis. Dani practices up to 4 times a day and does additionnal work in the gym (cardio, weights...), she's an elite athlete. It's practically impossible for a patient suffering from anorexia or bulemia to be able to engage in such demanding physical activity, the energy requirement is just too high, they would simply fall unconscious. I agree with what Nigel Sears said, weight is a fragile balance between intake and expenditure. I think that Dani is having trouble to counterbalance her higher energy expenditure (the fact that she has recently grown a few inches adds to her higher energy requirement). It can be troublesome to keep the weight if the condition is not addressed quickly but in this case it has, so there's no reason to worry. But you have to understand that like weight loss, weight gain takes time, contrary to the misconception, it's not easier.

the cat
May 7th, 2003, 11:50 PM
Thanks GrahamD and dhnet2! Daniela really has played too mcuh tennis in the last year or so. Her build is not conducive to playing the most tennis on the WTA Tour. That's for sure. I believe Dani is in fine condition and is working very hard. But she is lacking when it comes to muscle and beef. But that can be partly overcome with a slight weight gain and a reduced schedule. Dani never really recovered from her overplaying last year. Her heroic efforts in the Fed Cup final were sensational! :bounce: But then she had nothing left for the year end championships in Los Angeles. She looked tired and sluggish in LA. And she has looked tired and sluggish this year. And I can't believe her IMG handlers are letting her play so many tournaments. That is ludicrous! :mad: If Dani struggles through the U.S. Open, IMG should let her end her season early and take a couple months off to recuperate and get ready for 2004. Because playing the schedule she is isn't working for Dani. And it won't. Dani is like a Cheetah. They are both slender and fast! But neither are strong. Thus they both have to pick their spots. A Cheetah has to pick just the right time to hunt to be successful. And Daniela must learn to play a wiser schedule with fewer tournaments to be successful. Dani really should follow in the foot steps of the Williams sisters and Jennifer Capriati and play frewer tournaments. Those girls are much bigger, thicker and stronger than Dani is. But they wisely play limited full time schedules. Dani should do the same. That will pay off for her in the long run. And the long run for Daniela Hantuchova should be contending for grand slam titles. Or atleast occasionaly contend. But I fear IMG wants her to play alot, become as famous as possible and become a superstar. I question that. I want Dani to become a real tennis champion. She has the shots and the talent. But she can't go on playing the schedule she is playing. That is a mistake.

Leslie, you make alot of good points. But there are all kinds of body types in tennis. I admit Dani seems to be lighter than a year ago. I can't figure it out. I hope somebody can help her get a little stronger. And I don't like her coach talking about Dani's weight issue publicly. That doesn't seem right. He is only adding fuel to the gossip fire. And Dani has to be hurt that so many people are commenting on her weight. I just hope she has the right people around her to help her.

Well said Smarties! You sound sensible and reasonable. I just wish Dani had someone like you working with her. :D

MinskLynx
May 8th, 2003, 12:15 AM
High metabolisms don't lead to emaciation(!!), the body will physiologically adjust itself when it needs to. But it is tough to see from action photos whether or not Daniela is emaciated because of the momentary strain put throughout the body's muscoskeletal system while playing. Untlimately though, even with this taken into consideration, I do think that Daniela has issue(s).

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May 8th, 2003, 12:16 AM
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smarties
May 8th, 2003, 12:29 AM
Thanx the cat:), it would be verry nice indeed to work with her.

the cat
May 8th, 2003, 12:30 AM
What issues MinskLynx?

By the way, it's nice to see you again! :wavey:

Smarties, I bet you could help Dani while avoiding putting too much pressure on her! :D

MinskLynx
May 8th, 2003, 12:49 AM
Issue(s) such as her short-term and long-term health and any personal problems that cause/result from this.

the cat
May 8th, 2003, 01:10 AM
What, no hello? :( MinskLynx, I sent you a PM a few minutes ago.

As for Daniela Hauntuchova, let's hope she avoids those possible problems.

Tarsius
May 8th, 2003, 01:15 AM
She'll be fine. What Im worried about is that knee injury she got the last singles match she played. But it doesn't seem to be manifesting since she played (and won) with Chanda Rubin yesterday.

She'll be fine.

Crazy Canuck
May 8th, 2003, 01:24 AM
Unless you're her personal doctor, Daniela's fans know no more about this than those who are not her fans. Therefore bickering back and forth about it is total waste of time, since nobody really knows, and nobody is going to believe the other side anyways.

the cat
May 8th, 2003, 12:35 PM
You tell 'em, Becca! :D

moby
May 8th, 2003, 12:43 PM
ok ;)
i'll cut logo media some slack

Doc
May 8th, 2003, 02:21 PM
It is quite obvious that Daniela has a problem, despite certain people here being in denial about it.

Having a "Fast metabolism" DOES NOT make a healthy lose weight like that. It makes it difficult to GAIN weight, but Dani has lost at least 20 pounds since last year. That is serious. That denotes a nutritional problem.

Daniela last year. Compare this with the pictures posted from this month.
http://www.igs.net/~bmitchell/Tennis/Hantuchova/daniela039.jpg

And Dani has NOT been playing well since around September last year. This year she has lost numerous matches she should have won

Elena Dementieva 0-6, 1-6
Fabiola Zuluaga
Amanda Coetzer
Ashley Harkleroad 2-6 1-6
Alicia Molik - where she virtually collapsed in the final set 0-6, and complained of being completely exhausted.

Now lets examine Mr Sear's statement.She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "She is fit and strong, but she is burning off more calories than she is taking in. This is a sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to confront it."

Firstly sears is NOT going to come out and say "Daniela is Anorexic", even if this were the case.

Secondly he says "This is a sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to confront it

Now this is virtually an admission tahjt Dani's weight loss is related to the issue of fashion items "which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight.

Now this is the definition of compulsive slimming. Imagining you are overweight when you are not.

dhnet2
May 8th, 2003, 03:11 PM
Unless you're her personal doctor, Daniela's fans know no more about this than those who are not her fans. Therefore bickering back and forth about it is total waste of time, since nobody really knows, and nobody is going to believe the other side anyways.

That's true, we don't know any more than anyone else, but it's also true that Nigel spoke on the subject yesterday, so it boils down to whether you believe Nigel was telling the truth or not. He is in the position to know. :)

It's also true what smarties said earlier in the thread, a world class athlete like Daniela cannot still be training day in day out and playing energy sapping matches, like she is at this very minute, four months after this 'problem' was first mentioned.

Experimentee
May 8th, 2003, 03:29 PM
I'm a fan of Dani but I think she has a problem. Shes obviously much thinner than last year, it might be ok for a normal person but shes an athlete so she has to have more weight to be healthy. The thing about her 'not being able to hold food' is worrying. If there is a problem i hope she will seek help as soon as possible, and even take some time off to recover.

dhnet2
May 8th, 2003, 03:36 PM
It is quite obvious that Daniela has a problem, despite certain people here being in denial about it.

No-one is in denial, it is obvious she has a 'problem' - now that Nigel has publicly confirmed she does. But he is quite clearly saying her 'problem' is not anorexia.

Having a "Fast metabolism" DOES NOT make a healthy lose weight like that. It makes it difficult to GAIN weight, but Dani has lost at least 20 pounds since last year. That is serious. That denotes a nutritional problem.

What source says she has lost 20 pounds?

None I think ;)

And Dani has NOT been playing well since around September last year. This year she has lost numerous matches she should have won

Elena Dementieva 0-6, 1-6
Fabiola Zuluaga
Amanda Coetzer
Ashley Harkleroad 2-6 1-6
Alicia Molik - where she virtually collapsed in the final set 0-6, and complained of being completely exhausted.

Daniela does seem to have a problem yes with playing in extreme heat coupled with very high humidity, but she also did last year. In 2002 she also 'collapsed' in final sets against Husarova (at Amelia Island) and Black (in Miami) but she didn't have any such problems where there wasn't high humidity. This years 0-6 set against Molik was also in Miami.

Dementieva won the tournament that week don't forget, her game is ideally suited to that low clay at Amelia Island, Daniela's isn't. In 2002 Dementieva completely blew away Dokic 6-0 in the first on that funny type of clay. Dokic was all at sea on it. Dokic managed to get it together in the second set and Daniela didn't, that's all.


Now lets examine Mr Sear's statement.

Firstly sears is NOT going to come out and say "Daniela is Anorexic", even if this were the case.

So why say she isn't if she is? Equally logical to your statement. Why would Nigel use that word when the mere mention of it is bound to get even more tongues wagging.

He used it because he is telling the truth of course. :)


Secondly he says "This is a sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to confront it

Now this is virtually an admission tahjt Dani's weight loss is related to the issue of fashion items "which to wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight.

Now this is the definition of compulsive slimming. Imagining you are overweight when you are not.

Maybe that is what he is suggesting. It could well be, but that isn't anorexia. 'Compulsive slimming' doesnt necessarily mean the person imagines they are overweight when they are not. I think all Nigel is saying here is that Daniela is perhaps too obsessed with fashion.

He calls Daniela a 'young girl' when she isn't anymore in terms of age. Maybe he is suggesting she still is in terms of maturity? He is suggesting maybe that Daniela is a little mixed up in terms of her identity. That's all.

I think :D

GrahamD
May 8th, 2003, 06:39 PM
Sweetie the fact that he went out of his way to Name something she's not makes it suspicious to me.

What kind of dumb logic is that?

It is NOT raining outside does NOT mean it is raining outside.
You are NOT a doctor does NOT mean that you are a doctor.
She is NOT anorexic does NOT mean that she is anorexic.


Thank you for proving my point about the number of stupid posts in this thread.

GrahamD
May 8th, 2003, 06:49 PM
And Dani has NOT been playing well since around September last year. This year she has lost numerous matches she should have won

Elena Dementieva 0-6, 1-6
Fabiola Zuluaga
Amanda Coetzer
Ashley Harkleroad 2-6 1-6
Alicia Molik - where she virtually collapsed in the final set 0-6, and complained of being completely exhausted.



Berlin this week - Let's see now -

Tuesday - def.Schett 6-3 4-6 6-4
Wednesday with Rubin - def. Schett/Schnyder 7-5 7-5
Thursday - def. Mikaelian 4-6 6-4 7-6

Hmm, some pretty long and tough matches there. God help the rest of the world when Daniela recovers from all these nasty illnesses and diseases you think she might have.

dhnet2
May 8th, 2003, 06:56 PM
Berlin this week - Let's see now -

Tuesday - def.Schett 6-3 4-6 6-4
Wednesday with Rubin - def. Schett/Schnyder 7-5 7-5
Thursday - def. Mikaelian 4-6 6-4 7-6

Hmm, some pretty long and tough matches there. God help the rest of the world when Daniela recovers from all these nasty illnesses and diseases you think she might have.

:D nice 1 Graham :cool:

lee station
May 8th, 2003, 07:06 PM
I hope you gen. message guys cheer for Dani tomorrow :bounce:
Have a nice day :wavey:

Rocketta
May 8th, 2003, 07:16 PM
What kind of dumb logic is that?

It is NOT raining outside does NOT mean it is raining outside.
You are NOT a doctor does NOT mean that you are a doctor.
She is NOT anorexic does NOT mean that she is anorexic.


Thank you for proving my point about the number of stupid posts in this thread.

So what when I go to someone's house and they offer me something I don't want I've been known to say No Thank You I'm NOT Hungry. Surprise surprise half the time I am hungry. It's called a lie. You believe his statement. I think there was a lot of hidden meaning in the statement.

Just because you are so caught up in defending Daniela I'll give you a break but if you're trying to say that people don't make statements to the media to try to steer people away from the truth well then you're just sad and lost and I feel sorry for you plus I have some swamp land I'll like to sell you and btw, this land is NOT in the SWAMP. ;)

GrahamD
May 8th, 2003, 07:31 PM
It's called a lie. You believe his statement.

OK then, and you believe all the gossip writers on this board who are all oh so close to Daniela and know the real truth because Nigel is just making it all up to wind up the media.

I think there was a lot of hidden meaning in the statement.


I think you've been smoking too much of the funny stuff ;)

:wavey:

GrahamD
May 8th, 2003, 09:19 PM
Berlin this week - Let's see now -

Tuesday - def.Schett 6-3 4-6 6-4
Wednesday with Rubin - def. Schett/Schnyder 7-5 7-5
Thursday - def. Mikaelian 4-6 6-4 7-6

Hmm, some pretty long and tough matches there. God help the rest of the world when Daniela recovers from all these nasty illnesses and diseases you think she might have.

EDIT
Tuesday - def.Schett 6-3 4-6 6-4
Wednesday with Rubin - def. Schett/Schnyder 7-5 7-5
Thursday - def. Mikaelian 4-6 6-4 7-6
Thursday with Rubin - def. Martinez/Garrigues 4-6 6-3 6-1

I rest my case. :cool:

dhnet2
May 9th, 2003, 10:09 AM
So what when I go to someone's house and they offer me something I don't want I've been known to say No Thank You I'm NOT Hungry. Surprise surprise half the time I am hungry. It's called a lie. You believe his statement. I think there was a lot of hidden meaning in the statement.

I think you're right, there was hidden meaning. I think Nigel is trying to say, delicately, that Daniela is a bit too concerned about fitting into dresses one size below what is natural for her! :D

That is what I believe he is saying here, that's all. It's that simple.

"She is not anorexic," Sears emphasised. "She is fit and strong, but
she is burning off more calories than she is taking in. This is a
sensitive issue for young girls. They see fashion items which to
wear they must not be a couple of pounds overweight. But we have to
confront it."

dhnet2
May 9th, 2003, 10:18 AM
This article I think answers all questions :)

Hantuchova shows her strength then denies anorexia problem

Richard Jago in Berlin
Friday May 9, 2003
The Guardian (UK)

Daniela Hantuchova last night answered with actions and words those who have been saying she is anorexic. The Slovakian admits she is significantly below her fighting weight of 8st 8lb but made a great fightback from within two points of defeat to reach the quarter-finals of the German Open and rebutted suggestions that she is ill.

"I need to get back to what my weight was," Hantuchova acknowledged, "and it's something I'm working on. Many girls would like to be in my situation instead of trying to lose weight, because it's easy to gain weight. That is no problem at all."

The 20-year-old, who stands 5ft 11in, insisted she felt strong and fit, something supported by her recovery from 3-5 and 15-30 down in the final set against the Swiss teenager Marie-Gaiane Mikaelian to win 4-6, 6-4, 7-6. Hantuchova later played three sets of doubles.

Her British coach Nigel Sears said: "She also came through six sets in a day at Charleston [last month], so I don't think her fitness is in question. I think what's happened has done so because Daniela puts everything into her tennis and because she eats too well. Because she cuts out all the rubbish now and eats so healthily, we missed the balance of calories in and calories out. It's because of eating well that she needs to eat more."

Hantuchova, the world No9, is clearly upset by what she believes to be insensitive speculation but added: "I am just trying to eat normally. I eat almost everything, especially what my mum cooks. I always look forward to that. Unfortunately it's not as often as I would like."

It is hard to argue with her claim that her fitness is good, although her appearance in recent months has become even more spare. She claims her hard work pre-season is responsible not only for this change but also for the condition which has helped her keep a place in the world's top 10.

On the other hand, neither has she risen and today she will experience a far more rigorous test from the top-seeded Kim Clijsters, who appears refreshed after a recent five-week break from competition. Sherecovered well from 2-5 in the first set to win 7-5, 6-3 against the Colombian Fabiola Zuluaga.

Jelena Dokic was surprisingly beaten. The eighth seed, who claims she is still finding difficulty adjusting to the change of regime set by Heinz Günthardt, who has taken over as coach from her father, went down 4-6, 6-2, 7-6 to Iroda Tulyaganova, the unseeded Uzbek.

"Maybe if you do as well as I did in the last few years you get to a stage where you slow down a little bit and you don't have such a good year," said the 20-year-old Dokic, speaking as if she was a veteran. "Your confidence goes a little and you take a step back. Maybe that's what's happening here."

This may seem pessimistic, given that three of the four grand slam events have yet to be played. But Dokic recently fell from the top 10 for the first time in more than 20 months.

irma
May 9th, 2003, 10:23 AM
seems that she is as obsessed with food as I am;)

irma
May 9th, 2003, 10:24 AM
except that I don't like my mother's cooking. I love my mother but she can't cook at all. even worse then me!;)

rikvanlooy
May 9th, 2003, 10:35 AM
This article I think answers all questions :)

Hantuchova shows her strength then denies anorexia problem

Richard Jago in Berlin
Friday May 9, 2003
The Guardian (UK)

Daniela Hantuchova last night answered with actions and words those who have been saying she is anorexic. The Slovakian admits she is significantly below her fighting weight of 8st 8lb but made a great fightback from within two points of defeat to reach the quarter-finals of the German Open and rebutted suggestions that she is ill.

"I need to get back to what my weight was," Hantuchova acknowledged, "and it's something I'm working on. Many girls would like to be in my situation instead of trying to lose weight, because it's easy to gain weight. That is no problem at all."

The 20-year-old, who stands 5ft 11in, insisted she felt strong and fit, something supported by her recovery from 3-5 and 15-30 down in the final set against the Swiss teenager Marie-Gaiane Mikaelian to win 4-6, 6-4, 7-6. Hantuchova later played three sets of doubles.

Her British coach Nigel Sears said: "She also came through six sets in a day at Charleston [last month], so I don't think her fitness is in question. I think what's happened has done so because Daniela puts everything into her tennis and because she eats too well. Because she cuts out all the rubbish now and eats so healthily, we missed the balance of calories in and calories out. It's because of eating well that she needs to eat more."

Hantuchova, the world No9, is clearly upset by what she believes to be insensitive speculation but added: "I am just trying to eat normally. I eat almost everything, especially what my mum cooks. I always look forward to that. Unfortunately it's not as often as I would like."

It is hard to argue with her claim that her fitness is good, although her appearance in recent months has become even more spare. She claims her hard work pre-season is responsible not only for this change but also for the condition which has helped her keep a place in the world's top 10.

On the other hand, neither has she risen and today she will experience a far more rigorous test from the top-seeded Kim Clijsters, who appears refreshed after a recent five-week break from competition. Sherecovered well from 2-5 in the first set to win 7-5, 6-3 against the Colombian Fabiola Zuluaga.

Jelena Dokic was surprisingly beaten. The eighth seed, who claims she is still finding difficulty adjusting to the change of regime set by Heinz Günthardt, who has taken over as coach from her father, went down 4-6, 6-2, 7-6 to Iroda Tulyaganova, the unseeded Uzbek.

"Maybe if you do as well as I did in the last few years you get to a stage where you slow down a little bit and you don't have such a good year," said the 20-year-old Dokic, speaking as if she was a veteran. "Your confidence goes a little and you take a step back. Maybe that's what's happening here."

This may seem pessimistic, given that three of the four grand slam events have yet to be played. But Dokic recently fell from the top 10 for the first time in more than 20 months.


That's utter BS. She clearly has an eating disorder.

She even risks not surviving this thing. She only weighs 48 kg for 186 cm (BMI = 13,5). Another loss of 5 kg and I'm not sure she will live to tell.

GrahamD
May 9th, 2003, 11:02 AM
That's utter BS. She clearly has an eating disorder.

She even risks not surviving this thing. She only weighs 48 kg for 186 cm (BMI = 13,5). Another loss of 5 kg and I'm not sure she will live to tell.

So you're a doctor are you? I take it then that you've examined Daniela carefully for you to come up with this diagnosis. I take it that you've spoken to her and her coach to be able to come to your conclusion. Or maybe you've been looking at pictures of her on the internet.

Go away please, silly little boy :wavey: :fiery:

moogle san
May 9th, 2003, 11:11 AM
That's utter BS. She clearly has an eating disorder.


Oh, I see, you are her personal doctor then, right?
Or you must be a fu**ing genius to pull that out one of the air... :rolleyes:

Someone said something very intelligent on this thread: Nobody knows the exact truth, it's all speculation and I think we should stop that. It doesn't help anything! Of course everybody can have his/her opinion on the matter but, pleeeeaaaaase, don't act like you are a know-it-all. You are just makin' a complete fool of yourself and appear like whippersnapper. We all can't do anything else then rehashing the stuff we get from the media, and if one is not a complete idiot, one should know how to deal with all that stuff!
If I'd believe everything the media feeds me with... OMG :eek: :rolleyes:

moogle san
May 9th, 2003, 11:12 AM
Graham :wavey: lol, we are all here for some back-up :)

Crazy Canuck
May 9th, 2003, 11:20 AM
That's true, we don't know any more than anyone else, but it's also true that Nigel spoke on the subject yesterday, so it boils down to whether you believe Nigel was telling the truth or not. He is in the position to know. :)

It's also true what smarties said earlier in the thread, a world class athlete like Daniela cannot still be training day in day out and playing energy sapping matches, like she is at this very minute, four months after this 'problem' was first mentioned.
The last bit is not entirely correct. Many female athletes who have performed at a world class level have later came out and admitted that they suffered from an eating disorder at the time. I am NOT saying Daniela has one, but one can't use your statement as sufficient evidence to prove she doesn't have a problem because it has been proven incorrect on many occasions (Zina Garrison is an example).

As for Nigel Spears' quote; that is open to interpretation. The first bit is not, but his statement as whole is very contradictory, whether he meant it that way or not.

gentenaire
May 9th, 2003, 11:21 AM
That's utter BS. She clearly has an eating disorder.

She even risks not surviving this thing. She only weighs 48 kg for 186 cm (BMI = 13,5). Another loss of 5 kg and I'm not sure she will live to tell.

She's only 1.81m tall, not 1.86 and reportedly weighs about 50kg so that's a BMI of 15. This is still far underweight. That's the only thing we know for sure, she's underweight, she needs to gain weight. We cannot know the underlying reason. She's certainly not anorexic now, or she wouldn't be able to play so much tennis. She might be headed that way, but we don't know that. At least it's good that both Daniela and her trainer know that she needs to gain weight.

Crazy Canuck
May 9th, 2003, 11:23 AM
She's only 1.81m tall, not 1.86 and reportedly weighs about 50kg so that's a BMI of 15. This is still far underweight. That's the only thing we know for sure, she's underweight, she needs to gain weight. We cannot know the underlying reason. She's certainly not anorexic now, or she wouldn't be able to play so much tennis. She might be headed that way, but we don't know that. At least it's good that both Daniela and her trainer know that she needs to gain weight.

It is not uncommon for those suffering from anorexia to be extremely physically active. More often than not, that is actually the case.

Her playing a lot of tennis proves nothing.

irma
May 9th, 2003, 11:29 AM
"She's certainly not anorexic now, or she wouldn't be able to play so much tennis"

I keep saying it again leotien van moorsel won the tour femine with anorexia!
she might be sick or she might not be sick but her playing a lot of tennis has nothing to do with it.

irma
May 9th, 2003, 11:30 AM
becca beat me

when I was on the brink of anorexia I was sitting on my homebike 4 hours a day till my back started to hurt so much that I to quit!

rikvanlooy
May 9th, 2003, 11:32 AM
She's only 1.81m tall, not 1.86 and reportedly weighs about 50kg so that's a BMI of 15. This is still far underweight. That's the only thing we know for sure, she's underweight, she needs to gain weight. We cannot know the underlying reason. She's certainly not anorexic now, or she wouldn't be able to play so much tennis. She might be headed that way, but we don't know that. At least it's good that both Daniela and her trainer know that she needs to gain weight.

Thanks. 15 is better than 13,5, but it is not healthy.

It looks as if she is obsessed by food. Nobody has such a high metabolism that whatever she eats she doesn't gain weight.

Being underweight can be very dangerous.

I knew someone who died of anorexia. She always claimed she didn't have a problem and she tried to run and to do as much sport as she could.

A lot of girls die of this disease.

dhnet2
May 9th, 2003, 01:28 PM
That's utter BS. She clearly has an eating disorder.

She even risks not surviving this thing. She only weighs 48 kg for 186 cm (BMI = 13,5). Another loss of 5 kg and I'm not sure she will live to tell.

Who says she only weighs 48kg?

Have you a reliable source, or is it just you who says this?

dhnet2
May 9th, 2003, 01:34 PM
It is not uncommon for those suffering from anorexia to be extremely physically active. More often than not, that is actually the case.

Her playing a lot of tennis proves nothing.

Maybe but there's a difference between an average person still being extremely physically active (for an average person) with that condition and a world class athlete still being (almost) at the top of her form and fitness :)

dhnet2
May 9th, 2003, 01:53 PM
The last bit is not entirely correct. Many female athletes who have performed at a world class level have later came out and admitted that they suffered from an eating disorder at the time. I am NOT saying Daniela has one, but one can't use your statement as sufficient evidence to prove she doesn't have a problem because it has been proven incorrect on many occasions (Zina Garrison is an example).

I'm not, no-one is saying she doesn't have a 'problem', but Nigel says it isn't anorexia, presumably based on evidence.

Looked at it from Nigel's point of view (selfishly) he must be very sure Daniela isn't anorexic for him to say this. If he says she isn't and it turns out she is, Nigel might suffer considerably. His reputation as a coach suffers, his relationship with IMG suffers and in the long run getting it wrong costs him financially - considerably.

So I think he has to be sure what he said is true :)

Surely it's inconceivable Nigel would make three statements to the media in three days without having the backing of IMG and they must know exactly what Daniela's medical condition is. They are not going to take any risks with one of their 'most valuable assets'.

Wasn't Zina Garrison playing ten years ago? The game has got steadily faster and more powerful since then hasn't it and especially in the last couple of years since the predominance of the Williams'. Surely it's far less possible now for any player to have any serious medical problem and still be able to compete.

bbypk
May 9th, 2003, 02:03 PM
Pic from today

Dani is too slim :sad: i dont like see her in this way :sad:

smarties
May 9th, 2003, 11:06 PM
She's only 1.81m tall, not 1.86 and reportedly weighs about 50kg so that's a BMI of 15. This is still far underweight. That's the only thing we know for sure, she's underweight, she needs to gain weight. We cannot know the underlying reason. She's certainly not anorexic now, or she wouldn't be able to play so much tennis. She might be headed that way, but we don't know that. At least it's good that both Daniela and her trainer know that she needs to gain weight.

Dani has said herself (and it's visible) that she has grown recently but it's hard to say how tall she is actually.

As for the BMI, it's an index that is used only for the population at large, it's not used for athletes let alone elite athletes cause this index wasn't build to take this into account.

Crazy Canuck
May 10th, 2003, 12:24 AM
Maybe but there's a difference between an average person still being extremely physically active (for an average person) with that condition and a world class athlete still being (almost) at the top of her form and fitness :)
Look it up. You're wrong on this one. There have been world class athletes in the past who continued in their sport with an eating disorder, and I highly doubt that this has just all of a sudden stopped.

Crazy Canuck
May 10th, 2003, 12:36 AM
dhnet2: If you're interested, do check out the following (or do your own search and look it up for yourself, since you apparently don't believe me)

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/ucdhs/health/a-z/49EatingDisorders/doc49risks.html

This site has a paragraph which explains ". Women in "appearance" sports, including gymnastics and figure skating, and in endurance sports, such as track and cross-country, are at particular risk for anorexia. Success in ballet also depends on the development of a wiry and extremely slim body. Estimates for episodes of eating disorders among such athletes and performers range from 15% to over 60%. ". It also says a good deal of other stuff, and it relatively short.

As well, you could try this site: http://www.uoregon.edu/~abradley/links/diseating2.htm , which says "With young female athletes in appearance type sports, such as gymnastics, ballet, figure skating, equestrian sports, and diving, disordered eating tends to be most common since the look of the athlete can be a factor in how they are judged. However, it is still observable among other sports such as tennis, swimming, and running, where the athlete’s image should not play a part in her final standing. It has been reported that the incidence of disordered eating activities among female athletes is between 15% and 62% depending on the survey examined (Table 2) (29). "

This site mainly talks about dancers and figure skaters it seems, but it's useful: http://www.brown.edu/Administration/George_Street_Journal/v22/v22n21/athletes.html "Eating disorders are more prevalent among women athletes than the general population as they try to whittle their bodies to a weight that is often unreasonable, said Wiggins, a clinical assistant professor and Medical School alumna."

Also try this one: http://www.genesishealth.com/micromedex/detaileddisease/00037510.aspx It says the following: "The risk of developing anorexia is higher among adolescents preparing for careers that require attention to weight and/or appearance. These high-risk groups include dancers, fashion models, professional athletes (including gymnasts, skaters, long-distance runners, and jockeys), and actresses."


Now, if you would like to find me some literature which disagrees with all of the above, then I'm happy to read it.

ksgyh
May 10th, 2003, 12:49 AM
Also, I hate to say this, but the appearance-based sports such as ballet and figure-skating, in which anorexia is prevalent, do not require the same physical demands as tennis. (Modeling, acting, who cares about true "health"?) I do think they are extremely demanding. But, the energy required comes in short spurts. In tennis, being out in the Aussie sun (think Hingis vs Capriati), with no definite end in sight (there is no set 4-minute program) in terms of individual points or matches as a whole...it is incredibly difficult (not *impossible*, but "highly improbable") to be anorexic. One would have fainted by now, that is for sure.

Whoever said that Dani definitely has an eating disorder, I'm sorry but I must agree with all the other posters in saying you obviously cannot open your mind to see that all possibilities can exist. I can see some don't suffer from a fast metabolism (myself included). I know plenty of my friends who are almost 6' tall and I swear they are so skinny we call them "spider legs" and yet, it is absolutely disgusting how much they can eat, *without* exercising. Imagine Dani, who is following a rigid fitness schedule.

Until she admits it (if that time comes, all you "she is anorexic" believers can rub it in my face), let's not overspeculate. Obviously, her results are not where we want them to be, but I'm willing to be patient.

Go Dani, prove those doubters wrong!

Crazy Canuck
May 10th, 2003, 01:35 AM
Also, I hate to say this, but the appearance-based sports such as ballet and figure-skating, in which anorexia is prevalent, do not require the same physical demands as tennis. (Modeling, acting, who cares about true "health"?) I do think they are extremely demanding. But, the energy required comes in short spurts. In tennis, being out in the Aussie sun (think Hingis vs Capriati), with no definite end in sight (there is no set 4-minute program) in terms of individual points or matches as a whole...it is incredibly difficult (not *impossible*, but "highly improbable") to be anorexic. One would have fainted by now, that is for sure.

Whoever said that Dani definitely has an eating disorder, I'm sorry but I must agree with all the other posters in saying you obviously cannot open your mind to see that all possibilities can exist. I can see some don't suffer from a fast metabolism (myself included). I know plenty of my friends who are almost 6' tall and I swear they are so skinny we call them "spider legs" and yet, it is absolutely disgusting how much they can eat, *without* exercising. Imagine Dani, who is following a rigid fitness schedule.

Until she admits it (if that time comes, all you "she is anorexic" believers can rub it in my face), let's not overspeculate. Obviously, her results are not where we want them to be, but I'm willing to be patient.

Go Dani, prove those doubters wrong!
I'd be glad to read some article or site, or anything really that backs up your point...expecially seeing as the stuff that I copy and pasted had a point that said the opposite of what you ahve just spat out here.

Your opinion on it's own isn't really all that useful to me, because I don't think that you know what you are talking about. If you do, find a way to explain Zina Garrison; did she never have a long match in the hot sun that she had to play? Or did they just stand in one place and occasionally hit the ball ten years ago?

I'm not saying Daniela has a problem, but defending her with "facts" that are not even remotely factual is not helping your case.

harloo
May 10th, 2003, 01:48 AM
Nigel Sears slipped up in his defense of Dani. He simply stated "she is not anorexic, then he wen't on to say she was affected by imagery like young girls which confirms to me that their is a problem with anorexia, or bullimia.

Daniela is a young woman who looks at magazines and see the paper thin models like every young woman. IMO, just because she's a tennis star does not mean she isn't prone to dilemmas. Anyways, what is so bad about having a problem and getting help? IMO, nothing. I wish her the best of luck and hope she has one of her parents there to guide her through this mess.

I think she is under tremendous pressure, and while I hope she gets better I know it must be hard when everyone is looking at you, and judging you.

Andy_
May 20th, 2003, 08:27 AM
Hey, guys!
I made a post on this thread when the question was risen, during the tournement in Berlin. Honestly, when I saw her on tv I was almost scared by her thinness. Now, last weekend I was in Rome and Daniela, although already out of the tourney, was practicing on a secondary court at the Foro Italico. I must say I've changed my mind a little bit, in the sense that she is indeed thin, and there's really not an ounce of fat on her body (when she serves and tenses her thigh, you sort of see all of 4 elements forming the quadriceps tense!). But when you look at her just ambling around, I mean, she's just a beautiful girl! Of course, you'd expect an athlete to be more built, probably, Daniela looks rather like a model than a professional sportwoman, but as long as she can stand hours of practice in the heat, well, I suppose her body is fit enough!
Have a nice day,
Andy

gentenaire
May 20th, 2003, 09:22 AM
As for the BMI, it's an index that is used only for the population at large, it's not used for athletes let alone elite athletes cause this index wasn't build to take this into account.

True, the BMI isn't used for athletes because athletes would often end up in the overweight scale, not underweight like Dani.

Look at Fleemke's Rome pics, there's a few of Dani and it's actually scary.


And ballet not an endurance sport? All that jumping and swirling, balancing on the toes, that takes a lot of energy. Ballet dancers have pretty strong muscles.

fleemke³
May 20th, 2003, 09:31 AM
http://users.pandora.be/fleemke/websitepandora/fotos%20goed/Rome/daniela/daniela1.jpg
http://users.pandora.be/fleemke/websitepandora/fotos%20goed/Rome/daniela/daniela.jpg


On demand ;)
Dani get well soon please :sad:

rikvanlooy
May 20th, 2003, 10:04 AM
Also, I hate to say this, but the appearance-based sports such as ballet and figure-skating, in which anorexia is prevalent, do not require the same physical demands as tennis. (Modeling, acting, who cares about true "health"?) I do think they are extremely demanding. But, the energy required comes in short spurts. In tennis, being out in the Aussie sun (think Hingis vs Capriati), with no definite end in sight (there is no set 4-minute program) in terms of individual points or matches as a whole...it is incredibly difficult (not *impossible*, but "highly improbable") to be anorexic. One would have fainted by now, that is for sure.

Whoever said that Dani definitely has an eating disorder, I'm sorry but I must agree with all the other posters in saying you obviously cannot open your mind to see that all possibilities can exist. I can see some don't suffer from a fast metabolism (myself included). I know plenty of my friends who are almost 6' tall and I swear they are so skinny we call them "spider legs" and yet, it is absolutely disgusting how much they can eat, *without* exercising. Imagine Dani, who is following a rigid fitness schedule.

Until she admits it (if that time comes, all you "she is anorexic" believers can rub it in my face), let's not overspeculate. Obviously, her results are not where we want them to be, but I'm willing to be patient.

Go Dani, prove those doubters wrong!

but the appearance-based sports such as ballet and figure-skating, in which anorexia is prevalent, do not require the same physical demands as tennis.

That's a joke. Ballet on the highest level is a very very very very tough sport.

You have to be a real athlete (not always the case with tennis).