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WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:08 AM
After playing like that she just may :eek:

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:10 AM
But I don't think so :sad:

CJ07
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:11 AM
um, come now

Shes very talented, and it looks like she may fulfill her potential because of this entire year (not just this tournament) but a slam was never in her forecast

you cant win a slam with that serve
and heck, even without that serve shes still not as good as the top 5 players

however, she can get to another SF with a good draw

ßcoene
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:12 AM
It's possible, but she has just won her first title so I voted no.

Maybe if the draw opens up.

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:12 AM
with a good serve i dont see why she isnt capable...with this serve, i agree that she cant...

ys
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:12 AM
I think, at this point she has a mental stength. But in terms of game - I find it quite unlikely at this point. Note that she was at losing position in two matches at this tournament. It says a lot about her mental strength, but should she have faced players who a mentally stronger than her opponents at this tourney ( such as a Williams, Clijsters or even Capriati ) she would probably lose.

selesfan87
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:13 AM
IMO she has the worst serve in the top 30. If she could play like she did today, but serve like Serena then I think she could!

But she doesn't serve like Serena, so I wouldn't count on her chances.

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:15 AM
IMO she has the worst serve in the top 30. If she could play like she did today, but serve like Serena then I think she could!

But she doesn't serve like Serena, so I wouldn't count on her chances.
:eek: its better than anna's :eek:

oh yeah, anna aint in the top 30 :sad: ;)

shap_half
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:26 AM
I voted yes.

Elena Dementieva is won powerful player. Her serve is very spotty. She can do a low 90s everynow and again. But hr groundstrokes are out of this world. I mean she can really compare her groundstrokes with Capriati, Davenport, Venus, Serena, etc. And her mental stability is just wonderful. She faced matchpoints and she just kept working at it. I mean there is room for improvement but hopefully a win here will motivate her to become better!

DEETHELICK
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:29 AM
I'm not saying she will be a multiple Slam winner, but if she improves more (which she can), develops her serve and just keeps at it, she is legit Slam material.

She is very talented and has got Slam potential (USO or AO)

But she has to keep progressing forward now, rather than letting this result make her believe that everything is perfect.

TennisHack
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:55 AM
There isn't a green clay Slam now is there ;)

(LOL, someone had to say it.)

No, I don't think she'll ever win a Slam. Look at the Slam contenders now. There's really no big weakness in their games (Serena, Venus, Capriati, Henin-Hardenne, Clijsters), certainly not as big of one as Elena's serve. Low 90s every now and again isn't going to cut it against the elite competition that usually comprises the late stages of a Slam.

I think she has the ability to do well in the Slams but I don't think she'll ever win one unless something miraculous happens.

Venus Forever
Apr 21st, 2003, 01:24 AM
Without the serve, she is not a factor.

fammmmedspin
Apr 21st, 2003, 03:40 AM
Difficult to say she can't beat the top 5 when she has just beaten two of them? If you can beat the World number 4 and 5 and can go through the bottom half of the top 10 to get to them and you can show you can do this more than once you are pretty much a contender for the GS semis. If the Wiliams sisters are not there and you play like today against KIm?
Now if you could fix the serve and serve like you did in the last game .....

tennisIlove09
Apr 21st, 2003, 03:59 AM
No.

Leena
Apr 21st, 2003, 04:25 AM
I love Alyona... but my opinion is "no". Of course, there's a chance she could... but I highly doubt it.

1) She still has to prove she can play at such a high level for more than 1 week. Alyona hasn't looked nearly this well at any other point in her career.

2) I don't think she has a chance on any other surface, but clay... she needs the time to set up.

3) I think she played her absolute best today... and I still don't think that beats Serena in a GS. I can't see how she'd hold any games versus her.

Mr. Man
Apr 21st, 2003, 04:28 AM
simple answer. No.

ys
Apr 21st, 2003, 04:34 AM
1) She still has to prove she can play at such a high level for more than 1 week. Alyona hasn't looked nearly this well at any other point in her career.

2) I don't think she has a chance on any other surface, but clay... she needs the time to set up.

3) I think she played her absolute best today... and I still don't think that beats Serena in a GS. I can't see how she'd hold any games versus her.

You are forgetting that Dementieva was one point away from levelling her USO-2000 semifinal match vs Davenport.. A point that in all probability would have won her a match. I.e., she was not far away from making finals at the hardcourt Grand Slam. That, I think, beats your
first two points.

As to the third one..There are two obvious things that she can and should improve. Serve, of course.. And, she is still making her only first steps as an allcourt player. She is coming in much more than before now, but often on wrong shots and with not enough of confidence. That WILL improve with time and experience, definitely. But for a player who was glued to the baseline for the most of her pro career, that's a movement into the right direction. With her groundstrokes support, she will make a formidable allcourt player.

Leena
Apr 21st, 2003, 04:57 AM
Even if Elena did beat Lindsay... which I wouldn't be so sure she would of have if they reached the 3rd set... the match was quite topsy-turvy.

But, I still don't think she'd have beat Venus in the final.

That's my main reason behind why I don't think she can win... because even at her best... it's different beating a Williams' in a final, then beating a sluggish Lindsay on clay.

I just don't think that as well as Alyona played today... that she would have won against Serena in the final of a GS. Her serve and all-around game may improve like you say... but I'll have to see it on the court, in the important times, to believe it. That's just probably the negative Bovina fan in me, though. :p

AKTW
Apr 21st, 2003, 05:06 AM
NII-Nothing Is Impossible.

Leena
Apr 21st, 2003, 05:13 AM
NII-Nothing Is Impossible.
I'm going to agree with that sentiment... and recant my earlier "arguments". With Ai and Alyona's wins this year... any damn thing can happen. :)

spencercarlos
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:53 AM
um, come now

Shes very talented, and it looks like she may fulfill her potential because of this entire year (not just this tournament) but a slam was never in her forecast

you cant win a slam with that serve
and heck, even without that serve shes still not as good as the top 5 players

however, she can get to another SF with a good draw
I agree. Plus she is just winning her first title, now you think sheŽll get a slam? lol

AKTW
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:56 AM
I agree. Plus she is just winning her first title, now you think sheŽll get a slam? lol
In fact,not just a title.Elena showed some great results.

spencercarlos
Apr 21st, 2003, 07:03 AM
Yes but Dementieva is yet to beat Venus and Serena (even Capriati). The players that have won last slams.

Becool
Apr 21st, 2003, 07:04 AM
Please, let's not start a big hype on Dementieva.. She just won this tournament.. A tier II.. It doesn't mean she's already a contender for a grand slam..

It doesn't even make sense..

rhz
Apr 21st, 2003, 07:34 AM
give her a break, don't put too much expectation on her, she just won her first title ever. let her enjoy it. but who knows!

gladysharon
Apr 21st, 2003, 11:46 AM
Please, let's not start a big hype on Dementieva.. She just won this tournament.. A tier II.. It doesn't mean she's already a contender for a grand slam..

It doesn't even make sense..

Yes I agree...plus...a GS is not an easy event to win unless a good form top 10 perhaps usually.

Dava
Apr 21st, 2003, 01:17 PM
Who knows shes made it to the semis before, and the final of the Olympics, she could do it, if she maybe had a lucky draw, and some seeds fell out. Its happened before, with other plyers who I thought would never win a slam.

Edman
Apr 21st, 2003, 02:44 PM
i dun think so too
she won the first title,it's very amazing!!
She did good jubs to beat davenport and henin
But,if you talk about winning the Grand Slam,it's not her time yet
Her performance is not too stable actually
and there are lots of top player such as Serena,Kim...........this time had not joined the BLchamps.......
Well,i think she still have a long road to win a Slam :lick:

Kart
Apr 21st, 2003, 02:46 PM
Could she ? Yes.

Will she ? No.

SerialKiller#69
Apr 21st, 2003, 02:50 PM
the serve is letting her down. her groundies could challenge the top players but for her to win a grandslam, she would need a good number of unforced errors from her opponent.

LUXXXAS
Apr 21st, 2003, 03:48 PM
if she is going to improve that funny juniors second serve............